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Gnosticism is the "true religion" of jesus christ

 
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i've only read from pg1, 30, and this last page. Though this thread is offering more thought than the 4 walled church, the box that contains fundamental believers of all faiths; it falls short.

How? Just here on this page it appears to refute the religions of Abraham's children calling them a mess. They are not THE MESS due to Abraham....it is as always the perspective of the observers that slant their vision.

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

There is a great TRUTH in these verses especially verse 21.

Where is the kingdom of GOD? Within you!

Jesus said, It is written; YE ARE GODS.

The kingdom of God is found within the God of YOU....each of US.

The image of God, US, contains the kingdom of God/US.

The problem does not lay with the name of GOD but with the misunderstanding of that condition in its STAGNANT condition.

Genesis 1 speaks first of GOD. Genesis 2 speaks next of LORD. Once The Lord, condition, takes over never does God come before Lord ever again in the Bible....of TRUTH.

Being God is important but it is the least of our KINGDOM CONDITION.

We/US the containers of Aleph/Alpha always reject resistance or hard things always seeking the easy way out. This causes Us to become Dead Sea (see).

Think on this....God created only the IMAGE OF.

The LORD formed the BODY OF.

There is far more to the story/blueprint of our journey.
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Gnostics, having outlined the absolute and irreconcilable differences between the creator god and the Unknowable God, consider the god who created the world as something completely inferior to the True and Unknown God. It is natural therefore that they maintain that all the laws and orders of the god who created the universe and man must be disobeyed, because that is not the word of the True God but that of the other, the imposter, the inferior and inept one. For Gnostics, all that exists in sacred religious books is not the word of the True and Unknowable God, but that of the creator god or demiurge. His commandments, which he wants man to obey, such as how they should interact and how they should worship and serve him, appear in those books. Gnostics conclude then that if those laws are those of the demiurge, they can and must be disobeyed.

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Gnostics oppose in advance everything that comes from the demiurge on principle. All that the creator says, orders and demands must be disobeyed, because he is not the True God but an imposter who considers himself to be "the Only GOD".

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Seen from the outside and on a superficial level by an average man, this Gnostic position appears to be an abominable rebelliousness. The common man imagines that a good god created man, loves him, wants to help him, has high hopes for him and needs him in order to perfect and complete his work. The common man would view this Gnostic position against "the good father who brought him into the world" with horror. Man, the best of all the creatures that god created, would be rebelling against him, opposing and renouncing him. How awful! But what the common man does not know is everything that we have said up to now concerning the "good father" and his works and plans.

For Gnosis, the rebellion against the demiurge does not only free man from his slavery and servitude, it also weakens and takes away power from the demiurge. Through his constant opposition, the Gnostic gradually acquires a power equal then later superior to that of the creator god.

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"Not only are [the chastisements of The Outer Darkness] more painful compared with all the chastisements of the judgments, but all the souls which are led into that region, will be frozen up [?] in the violent cold and the hail and exceedingly violent fire which is in that region, but also at the dissolution of the world, that is at the ascension of the universe, those souls will perish through the violent cold and the exceedingly violent fire and be non-existent for ever."

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“Have you also learned that secret from the river; that there is no such thing as time?" That the river is everywhere at the same time, at the source and at the mouth, at the waterfall, at the ferry, at the current, in the ocean and in the mountains, everywhere and that the present only exists for it, not the shadow of the past nor the shadow of the future.”

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O-i found this thread, and have read theforbiddenreligion.com. the mystery of belicina vilca and anything else i can find. I have ran out of places to learn. I need more.
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Gnosticism is my religion for now since something just happened and you didn't feel it due to the change in weather patterns lol.
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The Cathar view (gnostic view) was that their theology was older than that of the Roman Catholic Church and that the Roman Church had corrupted its own scripture, invented new doctrine and abandoned the beliefs and practices of the Early Church.

the bible is incomplete and lacks all gnosis.

gnosticism is the truth of jesus christ the aeon from the pleroma.

The female Aeon Sophia, who emanates ignorantly without any guidance from her older aeon siblings, results in the Demiurge a creature that should never have been. This creature does not belong to Pleroma, and the One emanates two savior Aeons, Christ and the Holy Spirit, to save humanity from the Demiurge.

Aeon Jesus sacrificed his life in the pleroma and fell into the material universe then took a human form, to teach humanity how to achieve Gnosis. The ultimate end of all Gnosis is undoing the sin of material existence and returning as many as possible to the Pleroma.

Those without gnosis/the truth/knowledge will be unable to escape the demiurge and his archons and are doomed to death and reincarnatation in this satan demiurge creation forever/until the appointed time for all of them to be erased.


The Good God was the god of all immaterial things (such as light and souls). The bad God was the god of all material things, including the world and everything in it. He had contrived to capture souls and imprison them in human bodies through the process of conception. As Cathars put it, we are all divine sparks, even angels, imprisoned in tunics of flesh.

Human nature mirrors the duality found in the world: in part it was made by the false creator God and in part it consists of the light of the True God. Humankind contains a perishable physical and psychic component, as well as a spiritual component which is a fragment of the divine essence. This latter part is often symbolically referred to as the “divine spark”. The recognition of this dual nature of the world and of the human being has earned the Gnostic tradition the epithet of “dualist”.

Humans are generally ignorant of the divine spark resident within them. This ignorance is fostered in human nature by the influence of the false creator and his Archons, who together are intent upon keeping men and women ignorant of their true nature and destiny. Anything that causes us to remain attached to earthly things serves to keep us in enslavement to these lower cosmic rulers. Death releases the divine spark from its lowly prison, but if there has not been a substantial work of Gnosis undertaken by the soul prior to death, it becomes likely that the divine spark will be hurled back into, and then re-embodied within, the pangs and slavery of the physical world.

Not all humans are spiritual (pneumatics) and thus ready for Gnosis and liberation. Some are earthbound and materialistic beings (hyletics), who recognize only the physical reality. Others live largely in their psyche (psychics). Such people usually mistake the Demiurge for the True God and have little or no awareness of the spiritual world beyond matter and mind.

Horos encircles/protects the pleroma and was a previously existing power; but according to another, and apparently a later account, Horos is an Aeon only generated on this occasion at the request of all the Aeons, who implored the Father to avert a danger that threatened to affect them all.

In Valentinianism, Nous is the first male Aeon. Together with his conjugate female Aeon, Aletheia (truth), he emanates from the Propator Bythos "Silence"); and these four form the primordial Tetrad. Like the other male Aeons he is sometimes regarded as androgynous, including in himself the female Aeon who is paired with him. He is the Only Begotten; and is styled the Father, the Beginning of All, inasmuch as from him are derived immediately or mediately the remaining Aeons who complete the Ogdoad (eight), thence the Decad (ten), and thence the Dodecad (twelve); in all, thirty Aeons constitute the Pleroma.

He alone is capable of knowing the Propator; but when he desired to impart like knowledge to the other Aeons, was withheld from so doing by Sigē. When Sophia ("Wisdom"), youngest Aeon of the thirty, was brought into peril by her yearning after this knowledge, Nous was foremost of the Aeons in interceding for her. From him, or through him from the Propator, Horos was sent to restore her. After her restoration, Nous, according to the providence of the Propator, produced another pair, Christ and the Holy Spirit, "in order to give fixity and steadfastness to the Pleroma." For this Christ teaches the Aeons to be content to know that the Propator is in himself incomprehensible, and can be perceived only through the Only Begotten (Nous).

Cathars clearly regarded themselves as good Christians, since that is exactly what they called themselves. On the surface, their basic beliefs seem unremarkable. Most people would have difficulty in distinguishing the principle Cathar beliefs from what are now regarded as conventional orthodox Christian beliefs. However, pursuing their fundamental beliefs to their logical conclusion revealed surprising implications (for example that Roman Catholics were mistakenly following a Satanic god rather than the beneficent god worshipped by the Cathars.)

Like the earliest Christians, Cathars recognised no priesthood. They did however distinguish between ordinary believers (Credentes) and a smaller, inner circle of leaders initiated in secret knowledge, known at the time as boni homines, Bonneshommes or "Goodmen" , now generally referred to as the Elect or as Parfaits.

Of themselves they say: "We are the poor of Christ, who have no fixed abode and flee from city to city like sheep amidst wolves, are persecuted as were the apostles and the martyrs, despite the fact that we lead a most strict and holy life, persevering day and night in fasts and abstinence, in prayers, and in labour from which we seek only the necessities of life. We undergo this because we are not of this world. But you, lovers of the world, have peace with it because you are of the world. False apostles, who pollute the word of Christ, who seek after their own interest, have led you and your fathers astray from the true path. We and our fathers, of apostolic descent, have continued in the Grace of God and shall so remain to the end of time. To distinguish between us and you Christ said "By their fruits you shall know them". Our fruits consist in following the footsteps of Christ.

when we die the powers of the air throng around and persecute the newly released soul, which flees into the first lodging of clay that it finds. This "lodging of clay" might be human or animal. The soul would therefore be condemned to a cycle of rebirth, trapped in another physical body. By leading a good enough life human beings or rather their souls could win freedom from imprisonment and return to heaven, the immaterial realm of the good god. For members of the Elect, those who had undertaken the Consolamentum, death was no more than taking off a dirty tunic.

The realm of the Good God, heaven, was filled with light. Some Cathars regarded the stars as divine sparks, or souls, or angels, in heaven. The realm of the bad god was the material world in which we serve out our earthly terms. Satan had entrapped these divine sparks and created humankind as their prison. Thus there was a part of the Good God trapped in all men and women, longing to rejoin its Maker. The Bad God filled humankind with temptations to frustrate souls from ever making that reunion. They could be tortured by disease, famine and other travails, including man's own inhumanity to his fellow man. Yet the Bad God had no power over the soul - a divine spark of the Good God. His remit was confined to material things. Any hell that existed was here on this material earth. To confound the Bad God it was necessary to abstain from all earthly temptations and to strengthen the inner spirit by prayer. It was an argument that seemed to provide a rational explanation for all the misfortunes of the world.

As jesus said in the pistis sophia those without the mysteries will never escape the demiurge.

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