Christianity is so misunderstood

Isa:42:9: Zec:14:1-3: Zec:13:8-9: Re:1:7: Re:11:15-19:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.
Behold,
the day of the LORD cometh,
and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
and the city shall be taken,
and the houses rifled,
and the women ravished;
and half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then shall the LORD go forth,
and fight against those nations,
as when he fought in the day of battle.
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so,
Amen.
And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in heaven,
saying,
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ;
and he shall reign for ever and ever.
And the four and twenty elders,
which sat before God on their seats,
fell upon their faces,
and worshipped God,
Saying,
We give thee thanks,
O Lord God Almighty,
which art,
and wast,
and art to come;
because thou hast taken to thee thy great power,
and hast reigned.
And the nations were angry,
and thy wrath is come,
and the time of the dead,
that they should be judged,
and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets,
and to the saints,
and them that fear thy name,
small and great;
and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
And the temple of God was opened in heaven,
and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament:
and there were lightnings,
and voices,
and thunderings,
and an earthquake,
and great hail.

The 1/3 that survive the fire (the 3 1/2 hours it takes for the 7 vials to be poured out) would be the the members of the 7 Churches that have one of the relationships that God approves of, the 2/3 are the Gentiles on the planet that have not repented their sins even after the two witnesses have been acting like Moses for a period of 3 1/2 years.

Surviving the loss of somebody is not easy, I prefer to think God took the one that would of handled the loss the least well. That being said if this is a preview of their path after their last breath they would not have gone further that the crowd of people and the two standing there will be Adam and Eve and they will not be looking at Christ, they will be looking at the one in His hand. That is the breath of life returning to God.

Ge:2:7: Ec:3:20: Ec:12:7: Heb:10:31:
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

I started of with the Lord's Prayer and just as I was about to start my plea I got a vision that I was outside my body and saw myself, from the back and above, in a kneeling position with a mist a very short distance in front of me that obscured any further view.
I heard myself say "Master, I don't feel so good." A large hand came out of the mist and completely enclosed my body. This happened in a 'twinkling of an eye', I found myself enclosed in this hand and it scared me to no end because I struggled to be free of it's grasp but found I could move not even one little bit. This feeling of being scared lasted only for the briefest of moments.
What replaced it was the most peaceful feeling I have ever experienced, bar none, and to be quite truthful have not experienced that 'level' of peace since.
As soon as this wave of peace (meaning I was in the company of someone who cared for me much more than my words will ever be able to describe) overcame me the hand loosed it 'grip' on me and it opened and I found myself sitting on this palm facing the ends of the fingers and seeing further forward than that.
In front was a hallway, very tall and the walls were black. The walls were not smooth, but rather, had many indentations and sharp corners at these indentations. There was a faint light at each of these 'corners' and that was the only way I could tell the walls were not smooth, the rest was pitch black, I could see neither floor nor ceiling, only these faint corners.
We were moving down this hallway at a leisurely rate and as I was feeling very 'relaxed' I was going to change my sitting position so I had my hands behind my back and then I could lean back and rest on them. As I was leaning back one hand seemed to miss the expected surface that would support it and I ended up rolling to one side. I looked back to see what had 'gone wrong' and I observed a great hole in the palm of this hand. I immediately burst into tears and said with alarm "You've been hurt!"
I heard not a word but my tears left me and I spent the next few moments crawling around the hand, much like I did on the school-ground equipment when I was a small child.
This hallway had corners in addition to the indentations in that it was not straight as we have halls. We came around one corner and off to the right I could see a faint glow of light some distance down this other smaller hallway.
I asked "What's down there?" A voice (rather deep but very 'soothing') answered "You're not ready for this, but I will show you."
Off we went down this other hallway going around gently curving corners and the light got brighter with each corner we passed. In very short order we came out on a dusty,earthen path and I could see a sky. This path was rather narrow and had grass growing on either edge.
On the grass to the left there were several rabbits hopping around, a few bounds then they would stop and nibble the grass, a few more bounds, another nibble. Our presence did not disturb them in the least.
Just behind the rabbits, only a few yards from the path, was what I would best describe would be a three-wire barbed fence, not in the best of repair as the wire sagged a bit between the posts and none of the posts stood up properly but were tilted a bit at various angles.
A bit of distance from this was another fence made of planking, much like you would find around any farm that kept horses or cows, and behind were some farm buildings, house and small barn made of the same wood as the plank fence.
All the wood was very weathered but the condition of the buildings and fence would not warrant paint as this would be a waste because of their condition.
As I looked over at this scene I noticed several dogs in the yard. There was much running and yelping and much dust from all this activity. I could not determine if this activity was caused by our presence or not and if, in fact, the dogs were playing or it was a somewhat more serious matter they were involved in. The circles they made were small and done in quick fashion so in the short time I observed them they completed many circles.
The path we were on also had the gentle twists and turns like the hallways we had just came from did. We continued down this dusty path and came around another corner and came to a stop. The path ended here and was replaced by a large open space covered in lush grass, a short distance from us I could see gently rolling hill. I could see far enough to see three or four 'rows' of these hills, one behind the other. Very beautiful and serene but what was most astounding about these hills was that they were completely covered by people, standing so closely together that not one more person could have stood with them. There was a small open space between where the path ended and this large crowd stood, which is how I knew the grass was so lush.
On this grass, about midway between the end of the path and where the crowd started stood two people, one man, one woman. As remarkable as this whole scene was I was still even more astounded to see not one strand of hair on any of their heads, not one anywhere.
The two in front spoke no words but it was quite plain they were pleased to see 'Him'. No words were spoken to any from 'Him' either.
We turned and went back from where we had come from. Back into the little hallway till we turned left at the larger one.
We continued down this for some distance until we came to a doorway that was on our left.
I heard a voice say "This is a safe place for you."
The door opened and I went inside to a circular room about 50 steps in width. The room was decorated in many shades of brown and the 'outer wall' had shelves that went way round all filled with books. The middle had furnishings that matched the colors of the bookcases.
The door closed and I was alone.
I stood for a moment and went to the door and opened it just a crack. What I felt was sheer terror, and quickly re-closed the door and felt the terror was gone, as long as the door remained closed.
What was outside was not only terror but evil in that it had nothing good planned for me should I be foolish enough to open my door and go into the passage on my own.
I stood up at that point.

Perhaps the reason why Christianity is so misunderstood is that most if not all of their main doctrines are not even close to being scriptural.

Such as?

Man has an immortal soul.

Death is LIFE at a different location.

Judgment takes place instantly at death, hence all dead people go immediately to heaven or hell at death.

The wicked and unbelieving will suffer eternal torment (in a Christian hell).

There's more, shall I go on?

God is a Trinity of three different persons.

Prayer changes God's mind.

God gave mankind "free will/free choice/free moral agency."

Anyone can repent and come to Jesus anytime he chooses.

There's more, shall I continue?

Speaking in tongues is the sign that one is a truly converted Christian.

The King James Bible is inerrant.

The Apostle's Creed is a true outline of Scriptural truth.

Tithing is Biblical for the New Testament Church.

VOR2,

Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?

In short, the ONLY thing Christendom got right is there is only ONE way to the Father and that is through His Son Jesus Christ.

This has a few explanations, the two prophecies having to be fulfilled before anybody can be gathered is the explanation. The falling away was before Rome lost control of Jerusalem in 450AD. The little horn verses in Da:8 covers Romes full 500 year rule over Jerusalem. The truth is the full NT and Rome had that in 100AD, by the end they had 'improved it' by translating it into Latin. The sitting on the throne can only happen during the time the two witnesses are in the grave.

2Th:2:1-6:
Now we beseech you,
brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind,
or be troubled,
neither by spirit,
nor by word,
nor by letter as from us,
as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
Remember ye not,
that,
when I was yet with you,
I told you these things?
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

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He is the Son of God, the savior of ALL mankind.

Could you explain how 'God' is portrayed as one gender while not the other? How does that make sense? Gender is determined by physical/biological reproductive organs, yes? So does 'God' have a physical body with male reproductive organs at the exclusion of female ones?



Could you explain how two beings (YHWH & Jesus) can have a father/son relationship if neither was created by the other and neither preceded the other in existence and both always existed? How was it determined who would be the 'father' and who would be the 'son' if neither gave rise to the other? How does this father/son analogy even make sense if there was no physical/biological reproduction transpiring???

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1Co:15:27:
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.

The 2/3 are not gathered until the end if the 1,000 years.

Zec:13:8-9:
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.

Isa:65:12-14:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.

If 2/3 are destined to die then they cannot repent so free will is not available until after the Great White Throne event.

Re:21:1-7:
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:
for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;
and there was no more sea.
And I John saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem,
coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men,
and he will dwell with them,
and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them,
and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.
And he that sat upon the throne said,
Behold,
I make all things new.
And he said unto me,
Write:
for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me,
It is done.
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end.
I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son.


If you have more I might be able to add some information that is new.

The Holy Spirit isn't a thinking, talking visible "person".

Neither He nor Jesus are equal to Father God...Yahuah.

Jesus Himself CLEARLY states that there is ONE God....the Father.

God has only been been a "Triune God" for 1800 + years.

Tertullian, in the early 3rd century, was the first "church leader" who mentioned the "trinity", "though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine"

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Look up the history of these verses...

Matthew 28:19
1 John 5:7
1 Timothy 3:16
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9

Those verses and many others have been tampered with since the original authors wrote their "books".

Thread: Speaking in "Tongues" - What the Bible Tells Us - Bible Study

The King James Bible is "inerrant"? What makes it so when it is basically exactly like the Latin Vulgate created 1200 years earlier?

The original manuscripts were in Hebrew / Aramaic. Not Greek.

Proof?

Thread: Hebrews Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrews

It's also WELL established that manuscripts were being manipulated as early as the 2nd Century. Look up the histories of these verses. And there are others.

Matthew 28:19
1 John 5:7
1 Timothy 3:16

You folks claim that the KJ Bible is the "Word of God" but yet fail to even accept the things Jesus states clearly about Himself AND the Father.

Neither God Himself nor Jesus "wrote" the Bible, not like the Father did for Moses when He gave him the 10 Commandments. It's inspired, not written by God's own hand.

In spite of all that, the Bible DOES contain a HUGE portion of truth. It still is a compendium of God's interaction with mankind over the course of 4000+ years, AND it still has ALL the necessary teachings required for humans to receive Salvation.

Go back and re-read my posts.

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So what?

You made statements.

I gave explanations concerning them.

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Tell that to the Christians who think everyone needs Jesus then. The rest of of us already know we do not.

This statement is false.

You are not paying attention.

Go back to my very first post in this thread THEN re-read the rest of my posts.

And soeshy's question right after my first post.

Like I said...so what?

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem.

Really?

You made statements.

I quoted your posts and made additional statements.

Do you disagree with the statements I made? If so, then rebuke them.

Or are you just butthurt because I quoted your posts?

Plain and simple.

Don't lump me in with Christendom's unscriptural nonsense.

Your responses to my statements are doing just that.

I made no such claim.

Some don’t need the Christ link to get to God no matter what any
Book says...

There, I fixed it for you.