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Magically disappearing cartridges in New Zealand footage

 
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Yeah they would never produce a video like this like a war movie scene, use compression to make the effects look more convincing and figure out a way to live stream the video after making it - especially not with a politically inspired manifesto somehow sent to PM's and other high ranking politician's emails - zero possibility.
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But WHY tho?? If they're that hell bent on staging like something like this, you think they give a fuck if real people die?? It would be a million times easier just to do it for real anyway.

Yea, the deep states just a bunch of movie directors. Go back to sleep. The new generation of conspiracy theorists are lame.
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Seriously, wtf is wrong with these people?

What ever happened to MK ULTRA controlled patsies and sensible theories? Why the fuck would they go through all the trouble of "faking" some video for the entire world to examine and scrutinize? LOL

So much easier to just ACTUALLY DO IT.
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Yeah they would never produce a video like this like a war movie scene, use compression to make the effects look more convincing and figure out a way to live stream the video after making it - especially not with a politically inspired manifesto somehow sent to PM's and other high ranking politician's emails - zero possibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21648329


But WHY tho?? If they're that hell bent on staging like something like this, you think they give a fuck if real people die?? It would be a million times easier just to do it for real anyway.

Yea, the deep states just a bunch of movie directors. Go back to sleep. The new generation of conspiracy theorists are lame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75120704


Seriously, wtf is wrong with these people?

What ever happened to MK ULTRA controlled patsies and sensible theories? Why the fuck would they go through all the trouble of "faking" some video for the entire world to examine and scrutinize? LOL

So much easier to just ACTUALLY DO IT.
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Re: Magically disappearing cartridges in New Zealand footage
New Zealand: The Unraveling of an Israeli Mass Murder?

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor - March 17, 2019

Arthur Brown’s 1968 “not so rock and roll” semi-hit song provided the backdrop for the carefully staged, fully theatricalized murder “hit video” (below) with a cast of far more than we will ever know.

We do know this, we are dealing with a professional assassin, experienced, a sociopath, and a “fake person” with no social media, no neighbors, no co-workers, no school friends, no records of getting weapons, a car out of thin air, a second shooter who dissolved and some very serious continuity problems in his video with some victims “pre-killed” by the Easter Bunny?

We have a single young man, 28 years old, a “physical trainer” with tons of inherited money, who travels the world, photographs everything, is loved by everyone, then mysteriously goes on a personal murder rampage.

What we really have is a trained assassin, 42 years old, from a Jewish family, who trained against Palestinians and served in Southern Syria and in Idlib with al Qaeda, transiting in and out of Turkey.

We also have an operation where solid intelligence sources say 4 women “tourists” aided in “handling and logistics” and local police counter-terrorism forces supplied a second shooter.

During his world travels as a “young man with wanderlust,” we have no social media. We have no school photographs, no work history, no education, no job history, another “empty person” like our Sandy Hook “shooter” and so many others.

This time he made the mistake of crossing into areas watched by Russian and Syrian intelligence, where VT receives daily private briefings. They know him, after all, he was supposed to murder President Assad. Oh that? CNN failed to mention that?

The incident itself, this time on live video (below/warning) but first we will deal with Trump’s ties to the shooter who praises Trump as a defender of “white nationalism” and the fight against “invaders.”

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This is some kind of green screen or other CGI trickery


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As much as I hate to burst your bubble here if you focus further out you can see the shell casings bounce off the wall and land on the side walk (forward).

You're just looking in the wrong place..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Thank fucken Christ!

Seen it myself after the first time watching LoL
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New Zealand: The Unraveling of an Israeli Mass Murder?

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor - March 17, 2019

Arthur Brown’s 1968 “not so rock and roll” semi-hit song provided the backdrop for the carefully staged, fully theatricalized murder “hit video” (below) with a cast of far more than we will ever know.

We do know this, we are dealing with a professional assassin, experienced, a sociopath, and a “fake person” with no social media, no neighbors, no co-workers, no school friends, no records of getting weapons, a car out of thin air, a second shooter who dissolved and some very serious continuity problems in his video with some victims “pre-killed” by the Easter Bunny?

We have a single young man, 28 years old, a “physical trainer” with tons of inherited money, who travels the world, photographs everything, is loved by everyone, then mysteriously goes on a personal murder rampage.

What we really have is a trained assassin, 42 years old, from a Jewish family, who trained against Palestinians and served in Southern Syria and in Idlib with al Qaeda, transiting in and out of Turkey.

We also have an operation where solid intelligence sources say 4 women “tourists” aided in “handling and logistics” and local police counter-terrorism forces supplied a second shooter.

During his world travels as a “young man with wanderlust,” we have no social media. We have no school photographs, no work history, no education, no job history, another “empty person” like our Sandy Hook “shooter” and so many others.

This time he made the mistake of crossing into areas watched by Russian and Syrian intelligence, where VT receives daily private briefings. They know him, after all, he was supposed to murder President Assad. Oh that? CNN failed to mention that?

The incident itself, this time on live video (below/warning) but first we will deal with Trump’s ties to the shooter who praises Trump as a defender of “white nationalism” and the fight against “invaders.”

Read more
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68792668


Duff usually paints a trail awaY from Iran....tho often has some good info.
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Fuck me running...

Here it is folks.

TRAINING DRILL

50%

" The police officers who dragged an alleged gunman from a car following a shooting at two Christchurch mosques came straight from a training session on how to deal with armed offenders.

The Herald has exclusive details about how the officers, after hearing there was an active shooter on the loose in the city, took to the streets to find him - and stop him.

The officers, who the Herald has agreed not to name, are both based in smaller towns out of Christchurch.

Their boss rural response manager Senior Sergeant Pete Stills said the pair had travelled into Christchurch to attend a training session at Princess Margaret Hospital in Cashmere.

The training was held on a disused floor of the hospital and was around room clearance and dealing with offenders in armed incidents.

"They were actually training when the call came through that there was an active armed offender in Christchurch," Stills told the Herald.

"They had their work vehicles there with them with firearms in them.

"They operationalised themselves and got into one car, they decided to skirt the city, they thought that's what the offender would do - rather than drive through the CBD.

"They were driving on Brougham Street because they thought if he'd just been to Linwood (the second mosque attacked) that's a route he might take."

Moments later they spotted a suspicious car."

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The greatest piece of cop work since Oswald in the movie theater.jerkit

Then we've got the obligatory hero, who fought off the shooter with an EFTPOS machine, A FUCKING EFTPOS MACHINE!!! Claims he threw a gun the shooter dropped and hurled it at the windscreen shattering it. The pictures of the arrest show NO damage to the windscreen.
Just your standard hoax terror attack folks.

GUN CONTROL in NZ is but one of the reasons for this event.

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03/17/2019 07:51 PM

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Here come the fake-tards
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I expected more casings. Something fishy. As usual.
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The second guy in Camo was supposedly a "concerned father" who just dressed in full camo, armed with a gun who just wanted to "help police"...and was released.

Who dresses in full camo and arms themselves during an active shooter situation? What sort of intellectual capacity does one need to do that? Chances of being killed by police who could easily who could easily mistake "concerned parent" as the actual shooter would be extremely high.
Not buying it.
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Here come the fake-tards
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03/17/2019 08:16 PM

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Obligatory water bottles...

Top image is of the Christchurch mosque.

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03/17/2019 08:18 PM
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I can see some of the spent cartridges hitting the fence and the deflected to the ground. It's low quality. There were defiantly casings on the ground though.
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You can't see anything shill
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at 11:18 when he's inside the mosque you can see a lot of brass on the floor. But when he's outside you can't see any hitting the ground. It is suspicious.
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Well shit. Maybe Granma was right.
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Granma is ALWAYS right.
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03/17/2019 08:37 PM
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I know one this that is going on.
THEY are setting us up to look evil & sick.
so now the sheep will not believe any think we say.
we ARE losing freedom of speech fast!
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I can see some of the spent cartridges hitting the fence and the deflected to the ground. It's low quality. There were defiantly casings on the ground though.
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That weak ass explanation isn't going to hunt. You better call your bosses and let them know they got big problems.
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I can see some of the spent cartridges hitting the fence and the deflected to the ground. It's low quality. There were defiantly casings on the ground though.
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That weak ass explanation isn't going to hunt. You better call your bosses and let them know they got big problems.
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Lol. Ok I will let them know. I am just as curious as everyone here to find out if its real or not. I am just stating what I saw.
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dont the ejected empties get flung a long way back and to the side? they don't just drop out and land on the floor at the shooter's feet.

bert-facepalm
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It really depends on the firearm. Usually semi auto gas operated firearms do tend to throw casings away from the user. From my experience its usually slightly forward and to the side at about a 45 degree angle. I a have not used the type of firearm in the video however. I know AKs will throw the shit out of casings. Put your eye out probably.
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Low resolution video. High compression. He did after all live stream it.
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Low resolution video. High compression. He did after all live stream it.
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Do you see the casings in this "full version? I do not hear the thumping when a body is hit. I used to shoot varmints and always heard "that thud"

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Low resolution video. High compression. He did after all live stream it.
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Do you see the casings in this "full version? I do not hear the thumping when a body is hit. I used to shoot varmints and always heard "that thud"
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Low resolution video. High compression. He did after all live stream it.
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Do you see the casings in this "full version? I do not hear the thumping when a body is hit. I used to shoot varmints and always heard "that thud"

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WTF?

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Not this portion of the video, but it's visible.. And tryin is right Boeing it up on the big screen you can see them... It does look odd
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wonder why he never shoulders his weapon indstead of pointing
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Their is something very odd about this. It almost feels like the gun is a video game edited onto the recording. The weird herky jerky motion of the gun from low to shooting position.

Also why no broken glass and plaster flying all over the place. Their should be with all those rounds fired. No one is screaming either.

The sound of the gun shooting would be deafening, yet it's not. We can hear the talking so the sound is on.

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wonder why he never shoulders his weapon indstead of pointing
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Their is something very odd about this. It almost feels like the gun is a video game edited onto the recording. The weird herky jerky motion of the gun from low to shooting position.

Also why no broken glass and plaster flying all over the place. Their should be with all those rounds fired. No one is screaming either.

The sound of the gun shooting would be deafening, yet it's not. We can hear the talking so the sound is on.
 Quoting: JimH


That is odd. I should watch the video again but I barely got through any of it last time. It is disturbing even if its CGI.
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The one part that seemed weird to me is @ 13:10 he shoots through his windshield but it doesn't break? He then shoots out the side window and it shatters.

Blanks? or?

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Windsheilds don't shatter. There is likely a small hole that is difficult to see due to the low quality of the live stream.
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ans shot gun shots would leave tiny holes the low framrate would not pick up well
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Was this possibly a false flag to embolden Muslims who might not be on the radicalised side of things, now that ISIS is being flushed out and assimilated? Maybe to sway a lot of Muslims who feel like they want to distance themselves from anything to do with the violent radicals? Also to turn those who are not Muslims into sympathizers, watering down our sensibilities? Not that any race or religion deserves any mistreatment, we need to be careful not to get caught up in the agenda, but it has definitely been a very manipulative situation upon the public sentiments, in general. Imagine what the world would be like if there was NO news to watch at all...
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This was about nothing but causing chaos. It's that simple.

Read the manifesto. Theres something for every type of extremist in there.

This dude was the real life Joker from batman.
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This is some evil shit right here.

We're seriously fucked.

I suggest you all stop bickering over nonsense, when all of you are equally as fucked, and expendable.

Get it together, or kiss it goodbye.

None of you are special.
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I have read more than once about a coming world war, centered around Islam, and it isn't going to be pretty. You can see it creeping into almost every country on the planet... the past twenty years have changed things drastically.
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The elite planned ww3 with Islam ...already been written how it would be done...
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Why would a gunman with $$$$$ worth of guns have crappy CAM?
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In the original video the quality is HD. I think that the youtube compression is the issue here as an expert has stated in this thread.
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Watch it on the original (not youtube). Does the same thing.
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Clearly see them bouncing off the wall
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No. Actually it isn't so clear.
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I agree with OP, Aussis don't say "Lad's" . The people all died too quickly, no one begging for mercy, not one?
His shots were too accurate.. the last women he shot, her hair didnt act normally imo... the shot gun in the windscreen acted strangely as well, not enough noise, unless it was a 410 snake pellet lolz... stinks the whole thing really.





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