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They have already found the Patsy.

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The pic at the bottom of that page (7:40 PM) is cool... looks like a dragon is spewing fire down onto the structure.
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Great article! They did a good job of covering many aspects! Glad they got a lot of artifacts out of there! Still a tragedy of epic proportions.
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They have already found the Patsy.

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and yet their workers had been GONE for at least an HOUR before the fire!
 Quoting: FeedYourHead


Looks like he runs a tight group....

The firm won the contract to restore Notre Dame last year after successfully renovating nine other historic sites including cathedrals in Reims, Poitiers, Verdun, Strasbourg, Amiens and the Pantheon in Paris.

He said his company has 12 workers involved in the refurbishment, though none were on site at the time the blaze began on Monday evening.

He insisted that 'all the security measures were respected' and that 'workers are participating in the investigation with no hesitation.'

His family has been in the business since 1954

Work using electric tools had been going on in the roof, but the fire caused the iconic spire to collapse. It comprised 250 tonnes of lead and stood 315ft tall.


One spark can smolder for a long time....

This is terrible, it could have potentially been controlled if someone had been persistent in investigating the alarm

Mr Heitz also revealed that an earlier alarm had gone off at 6.20pm, interrupting a Mass, but no fire was found. The alarm then sounded again at 6.43pm.
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They have already found the Patsy.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77436511


and yet their workers had been GONE for at least an HOUR before the fire!
 Quoting: FeedYourHead


Looks like he runs a tight group....

The firm won the contract to restore Notre Dame last year after successfully renovating nine other historic sites including cathedrals in Reims, Poitiers, Verdun, Strasbourg, Amiens and the Pantheon in Paris.

He said his company has 12 workers involved in the refurbishment, though none were on site at the time the blaze began on Monday evening.

He insisted that 'all the security measures were respected' and that 'workers are participating in the investigation with no hesitation.'

His family has been in the business since 1954

Work using electric tools had been going on in the roof, but the fire caused the iconic spire to collapse. It comprised 250 tonnes of lead and stood 315ft tall.


One spark can smolder for a long time....

This is terrible, it could have potentially been controlled if someone had been persistent in investigating the alarm

Mr Heitz also revealed that an earlier alarm had gone off at 6.20pm, interrupting a Mass, but no fire was found. The alarm then sounded again at 6.43pm.
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Good info, thanks for posting.
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Trying to upload these live cam videos to my puter but it doesn't seem to work. I have a PC running on XP Pro SP3.

Soon they will be lost in Cyberspace. I would like to save them.

[link to www.viewsurf.com (secure)]

Anyone know of a thing that will upload non youtube videos?

Thx in advance.

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They only have one minute of video every hour. So the video URLs are numbered 3600 (seconds) greater than the last:

[link to filmssite.viewsurf.com (secure)] media_1555344308.mp4
[link to filmssite.viewsurf.com (secure)] media_1555347908.mp4
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Smoking gun.

Alarm went off at 6:20PM. No fire was found.

Was this alarm a diversion, to allow the arsonists to gain access to the roof?

The actual fire wasn't discovered until 25 minutes later.
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What is amazing to me is that the scaffolding held up to all the heat and flames (not melting) - should have built the Twin Towers with that!

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Smoking gun.

Alarm went off at 6:20PM. No fire was found.

Was this alarm a diversion, to allow the arsonists to gain access to the roof?

The actual fire wasn't discovered until 25 minutes later.
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Maybe the alarm had a wiring problem and caused the fire.
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In 2009, while still in USA (I returned to France in May 2010), I had a very vivid dream in which we, my girlfriend and me, were on a K-Mart parking.

------------------------------------

Everyone - a crowd - entered the store through the left door, normally being the exit. We entered through the normal entrance, on the right side. After passing a small room, we entered a CATHEDRAL, in the right corridor parallel to the central hall, where TWO VERY TALL 'MONKS', in a bure hiding their face, warmly welcomed us. I deeply felt that they were NOT from this world.

On our right side was a LADY belonging to this cathedral standing up in what looked like a wooden coffin, nervously walking into it, with two more offworld 'monks' close to her, BUT, unlike the two who were welcoming us with a deep compassion, these two additional tall 'monks' were very neutral vis-a-vis 'her', even maybe unfriendly.

On our left side, there was a BIG EMPTY SCALFFOLDING linked to the entrance door where the crowd was now sitting, quite far from the nave and even farther from the altar. NO ONE DARED TO SIT ON THE WOODEN BANKS. They were all watching at something that surprised them a lot. They seemed shocked.

I heard a voice telling us something I can't reveal but related to the RENEWAL of the GOD'S ORDER, and the LADY immediately angrily reacted, stating she was 'legally' the one in charge, not 'someone else'.

The two offworld 'monks' close to us put their hands on our shoulders, and one of them gave me a piece of paper where the following was written:

"you will live the TRIAL of the FIRE the twenty...five days".

...as if it has to take place after those of the crowd watching something big and schoking.


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Provided that we have had many other visions pointing to Saturday April 20th 2019, the day before Easter (Resurrection Day), I believe that the 'five days' means the fifth day after what the crowd watched on TV (fire at Notre Dame), i.e. the 20th of April 2019.

What will happen that day will be even MORE SHOCKING that this fire.
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Smoking gun.

Alarm went off at 6:20PM. No fire was found.

Was this alarm a diversion, to allow the arsonists to gain access to the roof?

The actual fire wasn't discovered until 25 minutes later.
 Quoting: SilverCyprus


When doing any kind of restoration, especially on something like that, they should have had a crew just to oversee everything

I wonder where the alarm was that went off
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They have already found the Patsy.

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and yet their workers had been GONE for at least an HOUR before the fire!
 Quoting: FeedYourHead


Looks like he runs a tight group....

The firm won the contract to restore Notre Dame last year after successfully renovating nine other historic sites including cathedrals in Reims, Poitiers, Verdun, Strasbourg, Amiens and the Pantheon in Paris.

He said his company has 12 workers involved in the refurbishment, though none were on site at the time the blaze began on Monday evening.

He insisted that 'all the security measures were respected' and that 'workers are participating in the investigation with no hesitation.'

His family has been in the business since 1954

Work using electric tools had been going on in the roof, but the fire caused the iconic spire to collapse. It comprised 250 tonnes of lead and stood 315ft tall.


One spark can smolder for a long time....

This is terrible, it could have potentially been controlled if someone had been persistent in investigating the alarm

Mr Heitz also revealed that an earlier alarm had gone off at 6.20pm, interrupting a Mass, but no fire was found. The alarm then sounded again at 6.43pm.
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I was trained in fire investigation as part of my job as a forester. It takes quite a while to determine the cause of ignition in most scenarios.

One trick that was used for igniting wildfires by the Native American population was to use a wooden crate with a candle burning inside. This gave the arsonist plenty of time to escape the area and be home when the fire really got started.

This technique was developed by the ancient tribal elders back in the 1800's to be able to burn areas where they traditionally collected herbs for medicines. Some of these plants need fire to regenerate properly, and the whites had shut them down on burning.

So using the crate and candle gave them time to get away and no one could be implicated.

This certainly sounds like a possible ignition source in this case. The candle puts out very little smoke, but could have easily triggered the first alarm. Then when the candle wax started the wooden crate ablaze about an hour later, the flames really began. Other accelerants where likely used to make the fire spread quickly.

Classic. And no way they could have determined this was not arson until a full investigation was completed!
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I haven't read the whole thread but has anyone referenced I Pet Goat II yet?

If you skip to 5.58, you'll see the towers of the church collapse. According to the comments underneath the vid, this is actually Chartres Cathedral rather than Notre-Dame in Paris. However, it's also known as Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Chartres.

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In 2009, while still in USA (I returned to France in May 2010), I had a very vivid dream in which we, my girlfriend and me, were on a K-Mart parking.

------------------------------------

Everyone - a crowd - entered the store through the left door, normally being the exit. We entered through the normal entrance, on the right side. After passing a small room, we entered a CATHEDRAL, in the right corridor parallel to the central hall, where TWO VERY TALL 'MONKS', in a bure hiding their face, warmly welcomed us. I deeply felt that they were NOT from this world.

On our right side was a LADY belonging to this cathedral standing up in what looked like a wooden coffin, nervously walking into it, with two more offworld 'monks' close to her, BUT, unlike the two who were welcoming us with a deep compassion, these two additional tall 'monks' were very neutral vis-a-vis 'her', even maybe unfriendly.

On our left side, there was a BIG EMPTY SCALFFOLDING linked to the entrance door where the crowd was now sitting, quite far from the nave and even farther from the altar. NO ONE DARED TO SIT ON THE WOODEN BANKS. They were all watching at something that surprised them a lot. They seemed shocked.

I heard a voice telling us something I can't reveal but related to the RENEWAL of the GOD'S ORDER, and the LADY immediately angrily reacted, stating she was 'legally' the one in charge, not 'someone else'.

The two offworld 'monks' close to us put their hands on our shoulders, and one of them gave me a piece of paper where the following was written:

"you will live the TRIAL of the FIRE the twenty...five days".

...as if it has to take place after those of the crowd watching something big and schoking.


----------------------------


Provided that we have had many other visions pointing to Saturday April 20th 2019, the day before Easter (Resurrection Day), I believe that the 'five days' means the fifth day after what the crowd watched on TV (fire at Notre Dame), i.e. the 20th of April 2019.

What will happen that day will be even MORE SHOCKING that this fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941


Did any of your other visions give any info regarding the event?
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In 2009, while still in USA (I returned to France in May 2010), I had a very vivid dream in which we, my girlfriend and me, were on a K-Mart parking.

------------------------------------

Everyone - a crowd - entered the store through the left door, normally being the exit. We entered through the normal entrance, on the right side. After passing a small room, we entered a CATHEDRAL, in the right corridor parallel to the central hall, where TWO VERY TALL 'MONKS', in a bure hiding their face, warmly welcomed us. I deeply felt that they were NOT from this world.

On our right side was a LADY belonging to this cathedral standing up in what looked like a wooden coffin, nervously walking into it, with two more offworld 'monks' close to her, BUT, unlike the two who were welcoming us with a deep compassion, these two additional tall 'monks' were very neutral vis-a-vis 'her', even maybe unfriendly.

On our left side, there was a BIG EMPTY SCALFFOLDING linked to the entrance door where the crowd was now sitting, quite far from the nave and even farther from the altar. NO ONE DARED TO SIT ON THE WOODEN BANKS. They were all watching at something that surprised them a lot. They seemed shocked.

I heard a voice telling us something I can't reveal but related to the RENEWAL of the GOD'S ORDER, and the LADY immediately angrily reacted, stating she was 'legally' the one in charge, not 'someone else'.

The two offworld 'monks' close to us put their hands on our shoulders, and one of them gave me a piece of paper where the following was written:

"you will live the TRIAL of the FIRE the twenty...five days".

...as if it has to take place after those of the crowd watching something big and schoking.


----------------------------


Provided that we have had many other visions pointing to Saturday April 20th 2019, the day before Easter (Resurrection Day), I believe that the 'five days' means the fifth day after what the crowd watched on TV (fire at Notre Dame), i.e. the 20th of April 2019.

What will happen that day will be even MORE SHOCKING that this fire.
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Did any of your other visions give any info regarding the event?
 Quoting: bigD111


UFO related. Still in France. Event big enough to be covered all over the world.
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He's back Orleans France UFO event...been awhile...
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Paris prosecutors already ruled it an accident????

They ruled out arson and terror attack?


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They are telling you what they want you to believe just like all the other F F terror incidents. They don't want you to let little things like facts or evidence get in the way. They'll do the thinking for you because sheep can't think.
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Trying to upload these live cam videos to my puter but it doesn't seem to work. I have a PC running on XP Pro SP3.

Soon they will be lost in Cyberspace. I would like to save them.

[link to www.viewsurf.com (secure)]

Anyone know of a thing that will upload non youtube videos?

Thx in advance.

tomato
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They only have one minute of video every hour. So the video URLs are numbered 3600 (seconds) greater than the last:

[link to filmssite.viewsurf.com (secure)] media_1555344308.mp4
[link to filmssite.viewsurf.com (secure)] media_1555347908.mp4
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Look and you shall find. I found.
It was a bit tedious at first but it worked. I have all the videos saved on my puter.

This might help some of you at some time or other.
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Thanks France. Very intriguing. Won't be long now, if that is the date. Do you think the twenty refers to 20 ufo's?
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Was this tower roof open for tourists then?
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It wasn't.

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Guys, check out the 12:05 vid. A very large group of black dressed people in the right belltower!

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Three days ago a Muslim jihadis in Paris was arrested for planning a terrorist attack at Notre Dame Cathedral.

Today, Notre Dame is in flames. Probably just a coincidence.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is Holy Week...Easter Week.

Anyone who believes this is an accident has lost their sense of reason.

God is Good

We shall overcome.
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They have already found the Patsy.

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so many valuable posts
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The Eiffel tower was literary in celebration colors its sick. Clearly someone is happy it burned.
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Thanks France. Very intriguing. Won't be long now, if that is the date. Do you think the twenty refers to 20 ufo's?
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No, I do believe the '20' means the 20th of that same month. Another vision gave me 'X (or XX) / 77' and '20...4'. It happens that my girlfriend (the 'X' instead of XY (male) for the chromosome XX is for the female) was born on February 3rd, 77 days from April (4) 20th.

I could go on with the other visions that we now perfectly understand, but it could become boring for you. I think that there will be four UFOs, three scout ships close to the ground over a well known French city, and one far bigger in the sky.
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Thanks France. Very intriguing. Won't be long now, if that is the date. Do you think the twenty refers to 20 ufo's?
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No, I do believe the '20' means the 20th of that same month. Another vision gave me 'X (or XX) / 77' and '20...4'. It happens that my girlfriend (the 'X' instead of XY (male) for the chromosome XX is for the female) was born on February 3rd, 77 days from April (4) 20th.

I could go on with the other visions that we now perfectly understand, but it could become boring for you. I think that there will be four UFOs, three scout ships close to the ground over a well known French city, and one far bigger in the sky.
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Thanks for clearing that up! The 77 is interesting in it's own right. I was ill for 10 years, and was healed of it, and went back to work on 7/7, and it was my mother's 77th birthday. Sounds like you have a good understanding of these visions! Did you see there is a thread about a ufo being seen over Paris before the fire?
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Guys, check out the 12:05 vid. A very large group of black dressed people in the right belltower!

[link to www.viewsurf.com (secure)]
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Three days ago a Muslim jihadis in Paris was arrested for planning a terrorist attack at Notre Dame Cathedral.

Today, Notre Dame is in flames. Probably just a coincidence.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is Holy Week...Easter Week.

Anyone who believes this is an accident has lost their sense of reason.

God is Good

We shall overcome.
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They have already found the Patsy.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
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so many valuable posts
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Also, hard to see at first but..Two people moving on top right side of scaffolding / construction
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Thanks France. Very intriguing. Won't be long now, if that is the date. Do you think the twenty refers to 20 ufo's?
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No, I do believe the '20' means the 20th of that same month. Another vision gave me 'X (or XX) / 77' and '20...4'. It happens that my girlfriend (the 'X' instead of XY (male) for the chromosome XX is for the female) was born on February 3rd, 77 days from April (4) 20th.

I could go on with the other visions that we now perfectly understand, but it could become boring for you. I think that there will be four UFOs, three scout ships close to the ground over a well known French city, and one far bigger in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941


Thanks for clearing that up! The 77 is interesting in it's own right. I was ill for 10 years, and was healed of it, and went back to work on 7/7, and it was my mother's 77th birthday. Sounds like you have a good understanding of these visions! Did you see there is a thread about a ufo being seen over Paris before the fire?
 Quoting: bigD111


Thanks for sharing your own experience. No, I did not see thread of that kind, but I didn't watch all the threads.
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He's back Orleans France UFO event...been awhile...
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Thread: all these events are staged to create the intended script or agenda
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Guys, check out the 12:05 vid. A very large group of black dressed people in the right belltower!

[link to www.viewsurf.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60289187


Three days ago a Muslim jihadis in Paris was arrested for planning a terrorist attack at Notre Dame Cathedral.

Today, Notre Dame is in flames. Probably just a coincidence.


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 Quoting: Jake


This is Holy Week...Easter Week.

Anyone who believes this is an accident has lost their sense of reason.

God is Good

We shall overcome.
 Quoting: White Gloves 76190251


They have already found the Patsy.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
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so many valuable posts
 Quoting: beeches


Also, hard to see at first but..Two people moving on top right side of scaffolding / construction
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Are you talking about the 12:05 time stamp?
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Thanks France. Very intriguing. Won't be long now, if that is the date. Do you think the twenty refers to 20 ufo's?
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No, I do believe the '20' means the 20th of that same month. Another vision gave me 'X (or XX) / 77' and '20...4'. It happens that my girlfriend (the 'X' instead of XY (male) for the chromosome XX is for the female) was born on February 3rd, 77 days from April (4) 20th.

I could go on with the other visions that we now perfectly understand, but it could become boring for you. I think that there will be four UFOs, three scout ships close to the ground over a well known French city, and one far bigger in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941


Thanks for clearing that up! The 77 is interesting in it's own right. I was ill for 10 years, and was healed of it, and went back to work on 7/7, and it was my mother's 77th birthday. Sounds like you have a good understanding of these visions! Did you see there is a thread about a ufo being seen over Paris before the fire?
 Quoting: bigD111


Thanks for sharing your own experience. No, I did not see thread of that kind, but I didn't watch all the threads.
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can u stop... Er Ju or I publish your name...you are not the one and no for orleans...ufo event, if you think...
take care of you, whatever! peace to your heart!
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Thanks France. Very intriguing. Won't be long now, if that is the date. Do you think the twenty refers to 20 ufo's?
 Quoting: bigD111


No, I do believe the '20' means the 20th of that same month. Another vision gave me 'X (or XX) / 77' and '20...4'. It happens that my girlfriend (the 'X' instead of XY (male) for the chromosome XX is for the female) was born on February 3rd, 77 days from April (4) 20th.

I could go on with the other visions that we now perfectly understand, but it could become boring for you. I think that there will be four UFOs, three scout ships close to the ground over a well known French city, and one far bigger in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941


Thanks for clearing that up! The 77 is interesting in it's own right. I was ill for 10 years, and was healed of it, and went back to work on 7/7, and it was my mother's 77th birthday. Sounds like you have a good understanding of these visions! Did you see there is a thread about a ufo being seen over Paris before the fire?
 Quoting: bigD111


Thanks for sharing your own experience. No, I did not see thread of that kind, but I didn't watch all the threads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941


Here it is.

Thread: UFO caught on webcam over Paris just before the cathedral fire.
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