Jesus Christ is the One True God!

There was definitely a reason Jesus mentioned "Father", "He who SENT Me" and "the kingdom OF God" so many times.

Only a fool could ignore all of that.

So with your terribly flawed understanding of the Scriptures you think you know the Lord Jesus Christ more than Thomas who spent 3 Years with Him do you? How utterly arrogant you are!

"Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.” So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.” And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”[John 20:24-29]

Now it gives me an idea never to post so many scriptural evidence because they will be blinded by it.... in short they will never read it

in the same chapter

31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.[John 20:31]

-it never said God but Son of God only
-[John 20:24-29] that was Thomas reaction .... we have different reaction at a different time
-that is why in verse 31 it was corrected

"Earthly things" matter everything.
It is what we came here for.
Life is not about what you do, it's about how you do it.

You know nothing about what I can or can not handle.
Quoting ancient brainwash won't get you anywhere.

The Lord's servant is exerting tremendous energy defending a God he doesn't know and a Jesus he doesn't know.

Earthly things do matter as someone else pointed out. The whole purpose of creation/the material is because G-d desires a dwelling place in the lower realms.

And by over whelming evidence do you mean the people that wrote about him 30+ years after the actual events when the chances are they never actually witnessed anything? Or the evidence based on an admitted unrepentant murder/liar who had visions while walking in the desert?

Blasphemous jerk.

Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. [John 6:53-55]

Those who are naturally minded will conclude that Jesus wants us to eat his flesh and drink His blood literally! As strange as this sounds to us now it was what many of His disciples thought. It's the reason most of them left Him. "Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying; who can understand it?”...From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more..."[John 6:60,66]

All those who believe that the Father is a separate person to the Son are no different to these natural thinking disciples!

TheLordsServant and so many who have posted on this thread are natural thinking Christians. Their minds are completely closed. So when they read words like "Father" or "Son" in the Scriptures, they cannot but think naturally. They fail to understand that these Words have a different meaning beyond there literal interpretation. And as long as they continue to think that God is two or three persons they will remain spiritually blind to the Truth!

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Numbers 23:19

19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Exodus 20:2-3

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.


..... so was it Jesus that led them out or Egypt or have you placed another in the place of G-d?!

Another natural thinker! There's only One Lord and One God and His Name is Jesus Christ! This is the One True God Who led Israel out of Egypt. Moses knew Him back then as the I AM.

Thomas was the ONLY one.

Check this out...

Here is a list of the people in the Bible who claim that Jesus is the Son of God, and then those who claim that he is God. I will keep it simple and not list the verses that claim that Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ, the Son of Man, or the king of Israel. All these titles are synonymous.

Son of God

God Himself refers to Jesus as His Son: Matthew 2:15, 3:17, 17:5, Mk 1:11, 9:7,Luke 9:35

Jesus says that he is the Son of God: Matthew 26:63, Luke 22:70, John 5:25, 10:36, 19:7

The angel Gabriel says Jesus is the Son of God: Luke 1:35

Peter says that Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 16:16

John the Apostle says Jesus is the Son of God: John 20:31, 1 John 3:23, 4:15, 5:5

All the Apostles say Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 14:33, John 6:69

John the Baptist says Jesus is the Son of God: John 1:34

John Mark says Jesus is the Son of God: Mark 1:1

Paul says Jesus is the Son of God: Acts 9:20, Romans 1:4, 1 Corinthians 1:9, 2 Corinthians 1:19, Galatians 2:20, Hebrews 4:14

Nathanael says Jesus is the Son of God: John 1:49

Demons say Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 8:29, Mark 3:11, 5:7,Luke 4:41, 8:28

The Centurion says Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 27:54, Mark 15:39
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People in the Bible who say Jesus IS God.

Thomas

So which is it pagan, one of the Trinity or the only God ?

You - NOR anyone ELSE on here - would KNOW how well I know God and His Son.

One thing's for SURE - SOME of you just can't understand the SIMPLICITY of God's love for us - and the SIMPLICITY of His Son's WORDS - that were recorded by the Apostles - and were ORIGINALLY given to Jesus BY THE Father.

Those like you think that they have discovered some SECRET about God and His Son.

You are sadly mistaken.

Jesus doesn't say "I was SENT" 47 different times for NO REASON.
Jesus doesn't mention "Father" over 200 different times for NO REASON.
Jesus doesn't say "the kingdom of GOD" 54 different times for NO REASON.

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God is NOT 2 or 3 "persons".

Jesus said the Father is God. Period.

No one who denies the Son has the Son or the Father.

2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

You don't believe that Jesus is the Lord in that verse. So the veil remains covered, for you.

For you folks that keep blabbering what Paul states while ignoring what Jesus actually says, get yourself a King James Red Letter Bible here.

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Read the 4 Gospels - where what Jesus says is in red letters.

No veil for me.

You THINK that everywhere the word "Lord" is used that it means Jesus?

Doesn't work in the KJV Old Testament, does it?

The OTHER mistake you are making is that you take those 2 verses out of context from the whole passage about Moses.

Try this - Hebrew Roots Bible

2 Corinthians

13 And not as "Moses, who put a veil over his face," for the sons of Israel not to look at the fullness of the glory of the thing not lasting. (Ex. 34:35)

14 But their minds were blinded; for to this day, when the Old Contract is read, the same veil remains, and it is not known to them that the veil has been removed through Messiah.

15 But even to this day, whenever the books of Moses are read, the veil lies upon their hearts.

16 Nevertheless, whenever a man turns to YAHWEH, the veil is taken away.

17 Now YAHWEH is that Spirit; and where the Spirit of YAHWEH is, there is freedom.

18 But we all with our face having been unveiled, see as in a mirror, the glory of YAHWEH, and we shall all be transformed into the same likeness, from one glory to another, just as the Spirit comes from YAHWEH.


The KJV is a good Bible but it's NOT perfect.

There you have it folks.

The Lord's servant has two lords. And Jesus said you can't serve two lords or you will love one and hate the other.


Jesus is the Lord and the Spirit but TLS doesn't want a Spirit Jesus he wants a flesh Jesus because he only understands the flesh.

Scriptural FACTS!

***Jesus mentions the Father / "He who sent me" over 250 times in the 4 Gospels.

***Jesus goes off to pray to the Father by Himself. ALL of John 17 is Jesus praying to / talking to the Father.

***Jesus starts the Lord's Prayer with "Our Father", which is inclusive of Jesus.

***Jesus does NOT KNOW when He is going to return.

***Jesus says to "ask in My name" instead of "pray to me" or "ask me".

***After Jesus' baptism (Matthew 3:17 & Mark 1:11), the Father's voice is heard. "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

***Peter et al...told at the transfiguration (by God The Father)...(Matthew 17 & Luke 9).. "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him."

***Jesus says (in Mark 10 & Luke 18)...And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

***Mark 16:19 (KJV) So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

***Just before Jesus raises Lazarus, He says in John 11:41 Then they took away the stone [from the place] where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up [his] eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.

In ancient times....anyone who had a higher "social status" than you would be called "lord".

If the king came into town and spoke to you, would you not call him lord?

2 months later, when his son, the prince, came into town and spoke to you, would you not have called him lord?

Jesus said there is ONE God - the Father. Period.

IF and when I see Jesus / Yeshua - you can BET I will bow at the knee and call Him Lord.

He's the Son of the Living God.

God is everlasting, God always was and is and didn't come from anywhere or anything.

You're wrong in your opinion and assertion that God would not want the title Son of God, in fact he did and is why he gave it to himself when he planned out creation, and it is a logical title for the transpiring of his manifested will.

You are simply wrong to assert that Jesus is not God. He is the manifestation of God, that means he is the Creator as a creation, fully in human form.

All else you have said I do not disagree with, it is truth. However, I see that your understanding of those truths is not full. May Jesus bless you with a full understanding as he promised to guide us into all truth amen. Amen Jesus.

1 Timothy 3:16
[16]And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Colossians 2:8-10
[8]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
[9]For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
[10]And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

He is the fullness of God in bodily form. It's a matter of faith, not logic, not head knowledge.

Genesis 22:11-12
[11]And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
[12]And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.

Who commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son?

Genesis 22:1-2,11-12
[1]And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.
[2]And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
[11]And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
[12]And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.

God, who is also called the angel of the Lord, who is Jesus.

Jesus is the equal manifestation of the Creator in bodily form.

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Sigh!

Another strawman?

I am not even debating that the Father is God!
Stop doing this!


And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life.

1 Cor 8:6

Jesus is the Lord, not the Father. There is only one Lord. Not Two.

See? You don't even believe Jesus is the Lord! And you claim to see?

Jesus can be called lord AND God can be called Lord.

But Jehovah is the only true God.

2 Cor 5:16


So then, from now on we do not think of anyone from a human point of view. Even if we did think of the Messiah from a human point of view, we don't think of him that way anymore.

Time to repent. Jesus is not flesh/a human anymore, He is the Spirit.

It's not difficult to understand.

1 Cor 8:6
1 God: the Father
1 Lord/Master/Teacher/Guide/etc: Jesus



It is not hard.

1 Corinthians 2:14
[14]But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Word was with God and the Word is God, they were never not in union until the day Jesus died.

Jesus is the Father, that's why trying to worship the Creator Spirit, while ye are a creation, while overlooking or sidestepping the Son, which is God as creation, is rejecting the Father. Jesus is saying Here I am, while someone is trying to pray to the Father God not being Jesus. God is Creation, God is Jesus, this is an eternal and unchangeable truth. God is Lord, Jesus is God, he is Lord, they are 1. To separate them is blasphemy. I speak the truth.

You cannot separate them, you mustn't do it in your head. Jesus is now and was and shall forever be God manifested. Though he came from God he is God and God is him, and he and God are 1 now and always and forever. God and Jesus are inseparable. To separate them is blasphemy. They can be separated on paper but not in truth. God will never not be Jesus and Jesus will never not be God. God is Lord, his name is Jesus. Jesus Christ is God.

The Father God is Jesus as creation, he's never not Jesus. Jesus is the Father God always. You are creation, God is creation as Jesus, worship the Creator who Jesus is. Jesus is the Creator as creation, he created and there was, and is. Worship the Creator in Spirit, by receiving his Spirit, and worshiping him in truth, in Jesus, as Jesus, inseperable. Jesus and the Spirit Father God are 1, in union, the fullness of God the Father Spirirt in Jesus forever, inseperable. All power, from our perspective as creation, is in and comes from Jesus, from within him, not outside of creation, but from inside him.

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