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| Evil Gringo User ID: 69508923  Mexico05/16/2019 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.borderlandbeat.com] Quoting: El Presidente is Cartel? 72957751 Less than 50 Percent rule Mexico plans to decriminalize all illegal drugs--"Prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable," reads the policy plan. The five-year policy outline wouldn't make drugs legal, but it would offer users treatment instead of punishment by redirecting "the resources currently destined to combat their transfer and apply them in programs — massive, but personalized — of reinsertion and detoxification," Obrador's policy statement read. "Public safety strategies applied by previous administrations have been catastrophic: far from resolving or mitigating the catastrophe has sharpened it," his statement read, adding that "prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable." "The war on drugs has been extremely costly, not just in terms of government resources, but also human lives, and it has failed to accomplish its objective," Steve Hawkins, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, told Newsweek. "Prohibition policies have, by and large, caused more harm to people and communities than the drugs they were intended to eliminate, and they haven't come anywhere close to eliminating the supply or the demand." Obrador said he wants to pursue drug law reform in conjunction with the United Nations and the U.S., where it's estimated that $19 to $29 billion worth of Mexican cartel drugs are sold each year. Why not legalize drugs altogether in Mexico? Some have suggested that completely legalizing drugs in Mexico and the U.S. would cripple the cartels. But the Trump administration has said it would refuse to support any such legislation in Mexico or "anywhere." "Before, we had organized crime, but operating strictly in narcotrafficking," Eduardo Guerrero Gutiérrez, a consultant and former presidential advisor, told Foreign Policy. "Now we have a type of mafia violence… and they are extorting from the people at levels that are incredibly high — from the rich, from businesses." Newsflash! This is BS! Mexicans DON'T DO DRUGS! THEY are too poor,too Catholic, they don't even have running water or electricity! Less than 1% have health insurance. They ARE WAY too sensible! They don't even do plastic! You can't find a coca cola in anything but glass, maybe can! I lived there several years. MEXICANS DO NOT DO DRUGS, THEY HAVE NO MONEY! IT'S nothing, nothing like how we live. This is just to MAKE IT EASIER TO PUSH DRUGS THRU MEXICO TO SELL IN US! DON'T FALL for this OMG maybe you lived in Mexico in the 60s. Too poor? Some, but by and large they make plenty to live comfortably. Health Insurance? Medical prices are actually reasonable and you dont need it. They also tell you how much your care costs up front, not like this blank check we hand doctors in the US. Mexican health care is also very highly regarded. Coke in a glass, yes, but every Oxxo (thats like 7/11 since you didnt actually live there) sells tons of plastic just like their American counterparts. Mexicans by and large are a very conservative society. Doing drugs happens, but it pretty taboo down there. I just got back from Juarez visiting the Revolution Museum, Market, and a very modern shopping mall. The people are wonderful. I have been to most of the “dangerous” parts of Mexico in the last 5 years. Reynosa, Tijuana, Mexico City, Juarez; I have had nothing but a great time there. The people are wonderful, and the new President gives them a lot of hope. Socialist? He is making small business credits available to more businesses than ever. He is a Mexican nationalist who is really trying to fix Mexicos corruption issues and make the people powerful again. Dude you are retarded and don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Here we have 80 square blocks along the beach that are the tourist zone. This is your Disneyland cleaned up imitation of Mexico that you have experienced. They actually SWEEP THE STREETS and there are cops that run most of the criminals off. You go two blocks in the wrong direction and it's savagery unlimited. You haven't even been to Mexico. |
| Bright Side Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 75260080  United States05/16/2019 09:47 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No - let Mexico do it and keep to border open for one one traffic Southbound. We can still build the wall I guess. Just put in those doirs like at Airports thst only open one way... Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76880414  Australia05/16/2019 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as crazy as this sounds, it has worked out Quoting: jj johns taking the profit out of it, and actually decreasing demand. don't know how this would play out in mexico though. here is an article looking at portugal 14 years after the did so. [link to www.mic.com (secure)] I'm sure PORTUGAL legalised. Mexico is only considering decriminalisation. Getting really fucking tired of people who don't read or understand what the fuck they're talking about. Getting really, really fucking tired. |
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Lady Jayne Smith Forum Administrator 05/16/2019 10:20 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will make an already corrupt uncivilized SHITHOLE country, safe and civilized? Quoting: Buzzcheeze It will gut the drug business of the cartels. Sadly, the human trafficking profits will still be there. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A  |
| Lady Jayne Smith Forum Administrator 05/16/2019 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will make an already corrupt uncivilized SHITHOLE country, safe and civilized? Quoting: Buzzcheeze At the end of the day, US has to take responsibility for their actions. ALL South and Central American cartels/gangs are a result of American unlimited lust for drugs. This measure is just a first step in trying to eliminate drug crime and criminal influence over politics. While you guys in America need to grow the fuck up and start taking proper care of your children so they don't all end up as junkies, cocain addicts, etc. Can't disagree with that. Too many people having kids, who should have been neutered at birth. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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| Pilgrim001 User ID: 77021014 United States05/16/2019 11:06 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.borderlandbeat.com] Quoting: El Presidente is Cartel? 72957751 Less than 50 Percent rule Mexico plans to decriminalize all illegal drugs--"Prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable," reads the policy plan. The five-year policy outline wouldn't make drugs legal, but it would offer users treatment instead of punishment by redirecting "the resources currently destined to combat their transfer and apply them in programs — massive, but personalized — of reinsertion and detoxification," Obrador's policy statement read. "Public safety strategies applied by previous administrations have been catastrophic: far from resolving or mitigating the catastrophe has sharpened it," his statement read, adding that "prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable." "The war on drugs has been extremely costly, not just in terms of government resources, but also human lives, and it has failed to accomplish its objective," Steve Hawkins, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, told Newsweek. "Prohibition policies have, by and large, caused more harm to people and communities than the drugs they were intended to eliminate, and they haven't come anywhere close to eliminating the supply or the demand." Obrador said he wants to pursue drug law reform in conjunction with the United Nations and the U.S., where it's estimated that $19 to $29 billion worth of Mexican cartel drugs are sold each year. Why not legalize drugs altogether in Mexico? Some have suggested that completely legalizing drugs in Mexico and the U.S. would cripple the cartels. But the Trump administration has said it would refuse to support any such legislation in Mexico or "anywhere." "Before, we had organized crime, but operating strictly in narcotrafficking," Eduardo Guerrero Gutiérrez, a consultant and former presidential advisor, told Foreign Policy. "Now we have a type of mafia violence… and they are extorting from the people at levels that are incredibly high — from the rich, from businesses." Highly intelligent approach to drugs. It's lightyears ahead of US drug policy. Drugs don't have to be "legalized", just Decriminalized. Drug abusers need medical/psychiatric help, not criminal treatment. Decriminalize and take away the profit motive in dealing with drugs. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| Zoink User ID: 12343871 United States05/16/2019 11:11 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now to ship Mexico all of our unwanted dregs of society. Give mexico all of our druggies, junkies, and tweakers. Give them all of our killers, rapists, and homosexuals. Give unto mexico all that mexico has given unto us. Give them the sex offenders, the thieves, the teachers. All unwanted persons in America, should be shipped without delay to mexico for the rest of their lives, without any chance of return to the USA. That my friends would make America great again within a mere few years. Ash Nazg Durbatulûk, Ash Nazg Gimbatul, Ash Nazg Thrakatulûk, Agh Burzum-ishi Krimpatul |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70732847 United States05/16/2019 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ummmm,in passing it seems harmless till you consider the ...CRIME,MURDER,STEALING,And over all Violence that's going to occur.. Quoting: The ring of truth You cannot say all Drugs are legal,there's going to people eating other peoples faces off... :zombie: In case you haven't noticed, that which you stated is already occurring and if off the charts. Decriminalization is an alternative to the madness of the last 30 years. We can't keep throwing everyone in jail who uses drugs. It's no different than people who drink excessively, treat it as such and there will be a equilibrium that is eventually established. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77018525 United States05/16/2019 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.borderlandbeat.com] Quoting: El Presidente is Cartel? 72957751 Less than 50 Percent rule Mexico plans to decriminalize all illegal drugs--"Prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable," reads the policy plan. The five-year policy outline wouldn't make drugs legal, but it would offer users treatment instead of punishment by redirecting "the resources currently destined to combat their transfer and apply them in programs — massive, but personalized — of reinsertion and detoxification," Obrador's policy statement read. "Public safety strategies applied by previous administrations have been catastrophic: far from resolving or mitigating the catastrophe has sharpened it," his statement read, adding that "prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable." "The war on drugs has been extremely costly, not just in terms of government resources, but also human lives, and it has failed to accomplish its objective," Steve Hawkins, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, told Newsweek. "Prohibition policies have, by and large, caused more harm to people and communities than the drugs they were intended to eliminate, and they haven't come anywhere close to eliminating the supply or the demand." Obrador said he wants to pursue drug law reform in conjunction with the United Nations and the U.S., where it's estimated that $19 to $29 billion worth of Mexican cartel drugs are sold each year. Why not legalize drugs altogether in Mexico? Some have suggested that completely legalizing drugs in Mexico and the U.S. would cripple the cartels. But the Trump administration has said it would refuse to support any such legislation in Mexico or "anywhere." "Before, we had organized crime, but operating strictly in narcotrafficking," Eduardo Guerrero Gutiérrez, a consultant and former presidential advisor, told Foreign Policy. "Now we have a type of mafia violence… and they are extorting from the people at levels that are incredibly high — from the rich, from businesses." Newsflash! This is BS! Mexicans DON'T DO DRUGS! THEY are too poor,too Catholic, they don't even have running water or electricity! Less than 1% have health insurance. They ARE WAY too sensible! They don't even do plastic! You can't find a coca cola in anything but glass, maybe can! I lived there several years. MEXICANS DO NOT DO DRUGS, THEY HAVE NO MONEY! IT'S nothing, nothing like how we live. This is just to MAKE IT EASIER TO PUSH DRUGS THRU MEXICO TO SELL IN US! DON'T FALL for this Only the rural areas maybe Lots of Mexicans are living just like the US There are cities with similar lifestyles as the US |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76623282 United States05/16/2019 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.borderlandbeat.com] Quoting: El Presidente is Cartel? 72957751 Less than 50 Percent rule Mexico plans to decriminalize all illegal drugs--"Prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable," reads the policy plan. The five-year policy outline wouldn't make drugs legal, but it would offer users treatment instead of punishment by redirecting "the resources currently destined to combat their transfer and apply them in programs — massive, but personalized — of reinsertion and detoxification," Obrador's policy statement read. "Public safety strategies applied by previous administrations have been catastrophic: far from resolving or mitigating the catastrophe has sharpened it," his statement read, adding that "prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable." "The war on drugs has been extremely costly, not just in terms of government resources, but also human lives, and it has failed to accomplish its objective," Steve Hawkins, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, told Newsweek. "Prohibition policies have, by and large, caused more harm to people and communities than the drugs they were intended to eliminate, and they haven't come anywhere close to eliminating the supply or the demand." Obrador said he wants to pursue drug law reform in conjunction with the United Nations and the U.S., where it's estimated that $19 to $29 billion worth of Mexican cartel drugs are sold each year. Why not legalize drugs altogether in Mexico? Some have suggested that completely legalizing drugs in Mexico and the U.S. would cripple the cartels. But the Trump administration has said it would refuse to support any such legislation in Mexico or "anywhere." "Before, we had organized crime, but operating strictly in narcotrafficking," Eduardo Guerrero Gutiérrez, a consultant and former presidential advisor, told Foreign Policy. "Now we have a type of mafia violence… and they are extorting from the people at levels that are incredibly high — from the rich, from businesses." Newsflash! This is BS! Mexicans DON'T DO DRUGS! THEY are too poor,too Catholic, they don't even have running water or electricity! Less than 1% have health insurance. They ARE WAY too sensible! They don't even do plastic! You can't find a coca cola in anything but glass, maybe can! I lived there several years. MEXICANS DO NOT DO DRUGS, THEY HAVE NO MONEY! IT'S nothing, nothing like how we live. This is just to MAKE IT EASIER TO PUSH DRUGS THRU MEXICO TO SELL IN US! DON'T FALL for this OMG maybe you lived in Mexico in the 60s. Too poor? Some, but by and large they make plenty to live comfortably. Health Insurance? Medical prices are actually reasonable and you dont need it. They also tell you how much your care costs up front, not like this blank check we hand doctors in the US. Mexican health care is also very highly regarded. Coke in a glass, yes, but every Oxxo (thats like 7/11 since you didnt actually live there) sells tons of plastic just like their American counterparts. Mexicans by and large are a very conservative society. Doing drugs happens, but it pretty taboo down there. I just got back from Juarez visiting the Revolution Museum, Market, and a very modern shopping mall. The people are wonderful. I have been to most of the “dangerous” parts of Mexico in the last 5 years. Reynosa, Tijuana, Mexico City, Juarez; I have had nothing but a great time there. The people are wonderful, and the new President gives them a lot of hope. Socialist? He is making small business credits available to more businesses than ever. He is a Mexican nationalist who is really trying to fix Mexicos corruption issues and make the people powerful again. Dude you are retarded and don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Here we have 80 square blocks along the beach that are the tourist zone. This is your Disneyland cleaned up imitation of Mexico that you have experienced. They actually SWEEP THE STREETS and there are cops that run most of the criminals off. You go two blocks in the wrong direction and it's savagery unlimited. You haven't even been to Mexico. Savagery unlimited? LoL Did you see the part where I mentioned Reynosa? Maybe i have a home there. Maybe i have family who lives there. Maybe i lived in and taught English from 2009-2014 there. Reynosa has basically nothing touristy, and is generally considered one of the most dangerous cities in MX. You are prob on a proxy, but if you were in MX youd know that Reynosa is feared by most Mexicans even. The people are wonderful. There are some cool things to see. The movie theater Pereferico VIP is the nicest I have ever been in. The average people on the street are kinder to strangers than Americans by far. I am sad for you wherever you claim to live because if you are to be believed, you must live in a very rough area. I will not post a reply after this cause online arguing is for the weak. Que tenga un buen dia guey. (Have a nice day dude) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States05/16/2019 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.borderlandbeat.com] Quoting: El Presidente is Cartel? 72957751 Less than 50 Percent rule Mexico plans to decriminalize all illegal drugs--"Prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable," reads the policy plan. The five-year policy outline wouldn't make drugs legal, but it would offer users treatment instead of punishment by redirecting "the resources currently destined to combat their transfer and apply them in programs — massive, but personalized — of reinsertion and detoxification," Obrador's policy statement read. "Public safety strategies applied by previous administrations have been catastrophic: far from resolving or mitigating the catastrophe has sharpened it," his statement read, adding that "prohibitionist strategy is unsustainable." "The war on drugs has been extremely costly, not just in terms of government resources, but also human lives, and it has failed to accomplish its objective," Steve Hawkins, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project, told Newsweek. "Prohibition policies have, by and large, caused more harm to people and communities than the drugs they were intended to eliminate, and they haven't come anywhere close to eliminating the supply or the demand." Obrador said he wants to pursue drug law reform in conjunction with the United Nations and the U.S., where it's estimated that $19 to $29 billion worth of Mexican cartel drugs are sold each year. Why not legalize drugs altogether in Mexico? Some have suggested that completely legalizing drugs in Mexico and the U.S. would cripple the cartels. But the Trump administration has said it would refuse to support any such legislation in Mexico or "anywhere." "Before, we had organized crime, but operating strictly in narcotrafficking," Eduardo Guerrero Gutiérrez, a consultant and former presidential advisor, told Foreign Policy. "Now we have a type of mafia violence… and they are extorting from the people at levels that are incredibly high — from the rich, from businesses." Newsflash! This is BS! Mexicans DON'T DO DRUGS! THEY are too poor,too Catholic, they don't even have running water or electricity! Less than 1% have health insurance. They ARE WAY too sensible! They don't even do plastic! You can't find a coca cola in anything but glass, maybe can! I lived there several years. MEXICANS DO NOT DO DRUGS, THEY HAVE NO MONEY! IT'S nothing, nothing like how we live. This is just to MAKE IT EASIER TO PUSH DRUGS THRU MEXICO TO SELL IN US! DON'T FALL for this What a lying piece of shit. Mexicans definitely have running water and electricity. They don't need health insurance because medical care is cheap and most common ailments can get prescriptions at the pharmacy no need to see a doctor. They get coke in glass bottles because they use our old bottling machines from the US. There are definitely Mexicans who do drugs - in particular Marijuana and Cocaine. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States05/16/2019 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will make an already corrupt uncivilized SHITHOLE country, safe and civilized? Quoting: Buzzcheeze At the end of the day, US has to take responsibility for their actions. ALL South and Central American cartels/gangs are a result of American unlimited lust for drugs. This measure is just a first step in trying to eliminate drug crime and criminal influence over politics. While you guys in America need to grow the fuck up and start taking proper care of your children so they don't all end up as junkies, cocain addicts, etc. Nobody forced south or central Americans to produce drugs. A very small number of US children end up as junkies. You sound very uninformed. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17611598 United States05/16/2019 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The war on drugs there is not spent on small possession, it is spent on fighting cartels producing and trafficking mass quantities. If that were made legal, prices of drugs in the US and other places will probably drop. |
| jj johns J to the 3rd User ID: 77401508  Switzerland05/16/2019 12:41 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as crazy as this sounds, it has worked out Quoting: jj johns taking the profit out of it, and actually decreasing demand. don't know how this would play out in mexico though. here is an article looking at portugal 14 years after the did so. [link to www.mic.com (secure)] I'm sure PORTUGAL legalised. Mexico is only considering decriminalisation. Getting really fucking tired of people who don't read or understand what the fuck they're talking about. Getting really, really fucking tired. if you would have even read the title of the link i posted, you would see, that you're a fucking moran. "14 Years After Decriminalizing All Drugs, Here's What Portugal Looks Like" so, i guess, you're getting tired of lazy bastards like yourself... Last Edited by Jay3 on 05/16/2019 12:41 PM . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77113974 United States05/16/2019 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know, but I have watched multiple YouTube videos discussing the American drugs situation and addict after addict states that they go through thousands of dollars per week - sometimes per day! - in drugs. They're out on the street or whatever and you gotta know where all that money is coming from - you can say prostitution but one look at these dregs and keep watching more videos and you see the real source of much of the money - THEFT. Someone is covering up the true cost of illegal drugs. |
| anonymous coward User ID: 59047628 United States05/16/2019 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This man is a hero... All drugs should be legalized..... I have a plan... allow all drugs users unlimited supples of drugs, let them have all they want, its the only way.. But in order to get their unlimited free drugs, they have to be on birth control while they are using... |
