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By: UGUR NEDIM 27/06/2019

A recent decision by the NSW Supreme Court has paved the way for those who are defamed on social media to take proceedings against not only the poster, but also commercial page administrators.

The preliminary decision in Voller v Nationwide News Pty Ltd and others [2019] NSWSC 766 relates to proceedings brought by former Northern Territory youth detainee Dylan Voller against The Australian, The Sydney Morning Herald, Sky News Australia, The Bolt Report and the Centralian Advocate in respect of defamatory material published by “third-party users” or “commentators” in the comments section of Facebook posts.

The lawyers for Mr Voller asserted that 10 posts on the Facebook pages of the news outlets in 2016 and 2017 carried defamatory imputations, and that the organisations are liable for the content of those posts.

The decision, published on 24 June 2019, makes clear that the outlets are considered to have ‘published’ the comments for the purposes of defamation laws, even though the remarks were published by others and despite the difficulties of monitoring every comment by every member of the public, and in spite of the fact there were no requests by Mr Voller or anyone else for the remarks to be deleted.

The judge states, “I note that the defendant media company has opened and continues to operate a public Facebook page for its own commercial ends. In doing so, it assumes the risks that comments made on that page will render it liable under various laws that may prevent, render unlawful, or render actionable in damages various statements”.

The court ultimately made the following orders:

1. The Court answers the following question in the following manner:

“Whether the plaintiff has established the publication element of the cause of action of defamation against the defendant in respect of each of the Facebook comments by third-party users?”

Answer: Yes

2. The defendant in each proceeding shall jointly and severally pay the plaintiff’s costs of and incidental to the hearing of the separate question.

3. Leave is reserved to the parties to make application within seven (7) days for any special or different order as to costs.

Implications

The ruling means administrators of social media pages will need to be vigilant to ensure that potentially defamatory comments are deleted in a timely manner.

But it goes beyond that, because administrators could potentially become liable as soon as just one person sees the defamatory remark.

A spokesperson for News Corp has strongly criticised the decision, saying it: “shows how far out of step Australia’s defamation laws are with other English-speaking democracies and highlights the urgent need for change”.

“It defies belief that media organisations are held responsible for comments made by other people on social media pages. It is ridiculous that the media company is held responsible while Facebook, which gives us no ability to turn off comments on its platform, bears no responsibility at all”.

By the same token, it means that those who are defamed have a cause of action against not only those who post the comments – who may be untraceable or have no means to satisfy an award for damages – but also organisations that allow the comments to be posted, and linger, on their pages.

The decision does not deal with whether social media giants themselves are responsible for publications.

The law on defamation in New South Wales

Defamation is normally thought of as an act which can attract civil liability.

Indeed, a whole piece of legislation is dedicated to the rules relating to the tort of defamation in New South Wales, and there is a wealth of case law that interprets those rules.

That legislation, the Defamation Act 2005 (NSW), is substantially replicated in legislation across Australia.

However, acts of defamatory can attract both civil and criminal liability, depending on their nature and seriousness.

What is civil defamation?

The Defamation Act requires three distinct components to be proved on the balance of probabilities in order for defamation to be established:

1. Publication

Material must be published (which includes orally communicated) to at least one person other than the party who was allegedly defamed.

The publication can occur orally or in writing, whether in print, by way of digital communication or otherwise, but it must be comprehensible.

2. Identification

The material must identify the allegedly defamed person either directly or indirectly, or be capable of doing so.

3. Defamatory meaning

The material must be ‘defamatory’ to the ‘ordinary, reasonable’ person, which means it must be likely to:

cause the person to be shunned, shamed or avoided by others;
adversely affect the reputation of the person in the minds of right-thinking members of society; or
damage to the person’s professional reputation by suggesting a lack of qualifications, skills, knowledge, capacity, judgment or efficiency in his or her trade, business or profession.

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And as this cascades... think of the ramifications for GLP, and others...

Thought Policing and the End of Freedom of Speech.

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The defamation law itself is scary because it says you can be prosecuted for remarks that might damage someone's reputation in the minds of right thinking people, but it doesn't say anything about whether your remarks were factual or true, only that they could potentially cause someone to be shunned or avoided. It's not about spreading false rumors or lying about someone, it's just about not presenting them in the best light.
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And as this cascades... think of the ramifications for GLP, and others...

Thought Policing and the End of Freedom of Speech.
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Facebook, twitter, GLP etc. will just not do business with the Aussies then
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Glp is allowing to much “shit posting”, I’ve never seen anything like this before. There is no common decency here and it seems to be promoted for some agenda.
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Looks like Trumps 2 supreme Court judges are helping Trump destory America
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Australia is such a bitch country
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And as this cascades... think of the ramifications for GLP, and others...

Thought Policing and the End of Freedom of Speech.
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ILLEGAL if FedGov enforces on their own but, the site owners can enforce these rules if they choose to do so. This site for example can enforce this but ramifications wound be around 199 visitors

Now on another note, election altering content or "fake news" may be something different. A new disclaimer need be drafted
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And as this cascades... think of the ramifications for GLP, and others...

Thought Policing and the End of Freedom of Speech.
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


Australia is being CHINAfied, get ready to CONFORM, accept social credit and total servitude.

OR rectify the error of your elected officials by kicking them out of office as soon as possible.

You will not stop this development by complaining about it online, you will have to organise to take action NOW!

good podcast, also mentioning the development of social media and social credit in Australia:

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It is a slippery slope when a Country enacts a Deformation Law. Now there is censorship which is very bad...

Hopefully this will never be enacted here in the States. We do have the 1st Amendment, provided that the Dems don't tear it to shreds...

Notice that in the article, it mentions News Organizations that are in Australia. Does this extend to organizations outside of the Country???

Also, what if these Organizations were a private entity (GLP) and not in the public domain, like Fakebook. Would the same ruling apply???

What if someone copies information to Fakebook from our site and references our site and it offends someone. Who would be liable then???
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Glp is allowing to much “shit posting”, I’ve never seen anything like this before. There is no common decency here and it seems to be promoted for some agenda.
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The Agenda is called Freedom of Speech...

1st Amendment...
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And as this cascades... think of the ramifications for GLP, and others...

Thought Policing and the End of Freedom of Speech.
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


Facebook, twitter, GLP etc. will just not do business with the Aussies then
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I don't think this will just be Aus.

I posted it because it seems like a precursor... "the writing on the wall" if you will..
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Looks like Trumps 2 supreme Court judges are helping Trump destory America
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Apparently Trump is now picking justices for courts in Australia.

bert-facepalm
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Glp is allowing to much “shit posting”, I’ve never seen anything like this before. There is no common decency here and it seems to be promoted for some agenda.
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The Agenda is called Freedom of Speech...

1st Amendment...
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ISLAM SUCKS!
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Looks like Trumps 2 supreme Court judges are helping Trump destory America
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Apparently Trump is now picking justices for courts in Australia.

bert-facepalm
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THE man has power
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What the Court is really saying is that THE PUBLIC should NOT be allowed the freedom of speech.

ONLY SPEECH APPROVED by the established media will be allowed to be published /distributed /viewed. ANY OTHER SPEECH WILL BE BANNED!!

This is an effort for the Government and the Big Business Entities, that it effectively is in bed with, to SHUT DOWN ALL ALTERNATIVE information sources.

This is not just an Australian issue. It is happening in most of Europe, most of Africa, and definitely most of Asia.

Governments EVERYWHERE want to CONTROL the news. Goebbels/Hitler, Stalin, Mao were just following in the model's footsteps laid down by the BBC in Britain, and by other national broadcasters in Europe, during the early days of radio where THE GOVERNMENT controlled the News AND OPINIONS that could be reported (later carried over to TV ... and which they are now trying to carry over to the Internet)

Thank goodness the US still has it's Constitution where we enshrined the concept of "Freedom of Speech". Virtually nowhere else in the world is that part of that country's basic law.
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disappointing bullshit as always

of course Australia is in the hands of corrupt paedophiles that don't care about the foundation of western values


funny that the whole time and even after a full blown staged false flag in New Zealand faggot fraid TRump just lets them get away with it all along with all the other faggot frauds that have been commited in the USA



TRUMP IS A FAGGOT FRAUD DON"T VOTE FOR THIS CUNT FRAUD IN 2020 EXERCISE THE ONLY LEGITIMATE INDICATION TO GOD THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THIS SOLD OUT FAGGOT IS DOING FUCK THIS CUNT
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Glp is allowing to much “shit posting”, I’ve never seen anything like this before. There is no common decency here and it seems to be promoted for some agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76923886


The Agenda is called Freedom of Speech...

1st Amendment...
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TRUMP MAGA KAG 2020~AND BEYOND!

Plus KILL THE UN,put a stake through its BLACK HEART OF DEATH!

Then after that,GET RID OF THE IRS,CIA,FBI,NSA,AND SO ON...

ALL WE NEED IS SHERIFFS!
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Living in a country without a First and a Second Amendment would suck buckets.

Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 06/29/2019 07:41 AM
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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this is the best defence I have as a shill for Donald Trump's obvious fraud presidency, I'm just gonna rely on my shil buddines to ban anyone that tells the truth
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no shit faggot


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That’s insane. Ends the free press. The enemies of freedom are everywhere. But freedom wins because these jerks always fail. 5a
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Hey Citizen Perth....Would you say the Aussie Supreme Court is mainly Liberal or Conservative?
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Hey Citizen Perth....Would you say the Aussie Supreme Court is mainly Liberal or Conservative?
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They're pandering to the liberals. i've not seen enough in the news about our court structures and their current leanings.

We appoint our Judiciary differently to the U.S

Mostly the LQJBIZ is being supported through our Politicians and Government and the Judiciary follow the laws until a point of precedent in the Supreme Court.
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What the Court is really saying is that THE PUBLIC should NOT be allowed the freedom of speech.

ONLY SPEECH APPROVED by the established media will be allowed to be published /distributed /viewed. ANY OTHER SPEECH WILL BE BANNED!!

This is an effort for the Government and the Big Business Entities, that it effectively is in bed with, to SHUT DOWN ALL ALTERNATIVE information sources.

This is not just an Australian issue. It is happening in most of Europe, most of Africa, and definitely most of Asia.

Governments EVERYWHERE want to CONTROL the news. Goebbels/Hitler, Stalin, Mao were just following in the model's footsteps laid down by the BBC in Britain, and by other national broadcasters in Europe, during the early days of radio where THE GOVERNMENT controlled the News AND OPINIONS that could be reported (later carried over to TV ... and which they are now trying to carry over to the Internet)

Thank goodness the US still has it's Constitution where we enshrined the concept of "Freedom of Speech". Virtually nowhere else in the world is that part of that country's basic law.
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Australia does have a constitution.

Freedom of speech is in the Australian Constitution,

I would have to look up the exact section no. It is currently being called into the court crap with Folou, or whatever his name is.

This thread is about N.S.W. which has some weird shit laws that other states don't have, so doesn't surprise me at all, they're all wankers in that state, lefty sooks and gays.

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Glp is allowing to much “shit posting”, I’ve never seen anything like this before. There is no common decency here and it seems to be promoted for some agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76923886


The Agenda is called Freedom of Speech...

1st Amendment...

 Quoting: DuckNCover


^ he's right ^

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