Bible students...how do you reconcile these 2 prophetic statements concerning the resurrection of Jesus, The Son of Man?

For you OP, surgery

wow...simple minds are so eager to expose their carriers as the fools they are.

night comes before day. Therefore.....oh, never mind.

Yaway works and does thing in parribles. Mans simple mind does not understand God’s riddles. You need to have faith to believe something as scandalous as The creator of the universe giving His son to pay for our sins.

They next day started in the evening. Explained here: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]

Last Edited by Weyoun on 08/18/2019 08:30 AM

Yes one MUST never mind the manipulation of church dogma. It is written....

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

first day then night....NOT as you suggest...

oh, never mind.

Crucified on Wed, dead late afternoon. Rose from the grave near the end of the weekly Sabbath (Sat early evening).

Where does it say first day then night?

Mar 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week,

Saturday is the 7th day not the first day.

Where does it say Jesus dead Wed.

Can you read.....written above.....3 days first mentioned and 3 nights next......

1st day then night.....can not be otherwise or The Bible would have begun with 3 nights and 3 days.

The Bible ONLY speaks TRUTH ...men lie.

My link already told you they count the evening as the next day. You have been answered. You are just fighting out of your own stubborn pride. "You can lead a camel to water..."

No, "and" and "then" are not the same. "and" does not imply any ordering requirement.

i don't consider your LINK a conversation with understanding.... if you know what you know .....share it with your own words....NOW.

Not to premeditate what you are to speak when led up into your TEMPLE/forehead. Your suppose to know and how to share.

Your LINK can contain much premeditation (taught church dogma).....that is often lost in simple shared conversation.

WHAT? ;>)

I have explained very simply and plainly. There is no more help I can give.

There you go.....this word doesn't mean and that being first means its 2nd and night is day .....and babel on and babel on.....taught confusion.....

Bible is ONLY TRUTH....men lie....to 'prove' confusion won';t work.

TRUTH trump's lies always.

you have said nothing here NOW that is not contrary to what is written....i stopped believing the TRAINED LIARS a long time ago.

Speak TRUTH or be silent...show scripture or be silent. i suggest you get off your high horse....be red faced to about your horses bridle, repent of your arrogance and enjoy the great and terrible day it brings for you.

The commutative property of the "and" concept is well established in language and logic, which God gave to us. The Bible is written in language He gave to us. There is no contradiction.

There is no contradiction that needs to be reconciled.

i agree that the Bible is only TRUTH it does not lie. It does NOT contradict itself. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

Are you attempting to justify yourself and your perspective by suggesting i have said that. If that is so it is you who needs to look at WORDS more carefully.

NOW....how are these 2 contrary statements RECONCILED without double speak and grammar lessons and the suggestion that LOGIC rules supreme.

Revelation trump's LOGIC...just as TRUTH trump's lies.

My expectation is that your ego will not cause your seeking of TRUTH to quit in this simple learning experience.

There is no conflict, contradiction, or whatever you want to call it, that needs to be reconciled.

When teachers LIE ....the unbelievers loose. The 2 statements are absolutely making different statements of TRUTH.

You can't prove YOUR POINT that they are both the same by manipulating the words and the times. Doing these extreme contortions of speech only proves the lack in LOGIC. The WORD looses and the unbeliever looses....when LOGIC rules.

TRUTH rules logic requires MORE training....in The Word of God.

Not is the thoughts and ideas of men.

Every reference in the NT says in the 3rd day....not even once 3 days or 3 nights or as you desire 3 nights and 3 days. NOT ONCE.

Jonah says AFTER 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS. the NT refers to it the same way.

A child could see the difference. Your making the Bible out to be a LIE by manipulating words and thoughts. Next you use the LEFTS WAY of just saying it is the way i say or else.

i asked you something you can't answer YET......

not once will your ego let go allowing you to say...

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

logic ...what a beast!

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

So who do you serve, OP?

I cannot understand your conflict, but God can help you if you sincerely ask for it.

I like the part where Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

No contention about that, OP?

The raising from the dead part seems more important than the purported timeline variance that you suppose.

I'm pretty sure everyone at the time of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ was able to verify the prophecy that Jesus made.

Perhaps you have an issue with the Catholic timeline from Good Friday to Easter Sunday. (Easter, of course, being a pagan celebration)

Once more a deflection is used by another to NOT answer a question.

Thought process of the weak goes like this. If you can't answer a question it must be the person who asks the questions who is at fault.

If you read what i've written in this short thread and believe i'm NOT a believer for the TRUTH'S of all Bible teachings......you already come up short and found wanting.

These four, principalities, powers, rulers of darkness and wickedness, are always the challenge for man to stay alert against.

For this reason i asked the question of this thread.

The 'high places' have deceived the many.

The word wrestle in this verse is found only once in The Bible.


meaning of Wrestle:

pale

wrestling (a contest between two in which each endeavours to throw the other, and which is decided when the victor is able to hold his opponent down with his hand upon his neck)

the term is transferred to the Christian's struggle with the power of evil

From pallo (to vibrate, another form for βάλλω (G906))

meaning:

to throw or let go of a thing without caring where it falls

THE ROOT OF WRESTLE MEANS WITHOUT CARING WHERE IT FALLS!

The time is come to care....not just parroting trained dogma.

Your attempt to suggest i am in conflict does not work on me. Your possibly use to hypnotizing others to think your suggestions......NOT ME.

The conflict is apparent between these 2 Biblical statements when seen only from the natural eye.

Rising on the 3rd day or after the 3rd day suggests a conflict. This thread was designed to point this out to solve this suggestion.

Over the years IN THE CHURCH i've watched many and read many to their mental contortions to prove the natural timeline.

CAN"T BE DONE. If it could be done easily you woulkd have done it here.....YOU HAVE NOT[/b[. You do expect US to read your detailed convoluted repeated teachings.

These OLD ways will no longer work as

TRUTH RISES!

Your failure to communicate is the issue. I answered you the best I could but apparently you are asking something else but unable to communicate it properly.