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Breaking: Trump Responds to at least 10 women and children with Utah ties killed, Cartel Style, in Mexico

 
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Nita’s vehicle was found first “full of bullet holes and completely ablaze,” Miller said.


“On another part of the road, about 10 miles ahead, were Christina, with her baby Faith in her vehicle, and Dawna with nine children in hers,” she said.

“They both were fired upon from ahead and Christina jumped out waving her arms to let the attackers know that it was women and children in the vehicles.”



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Langford also says the family has had interactions previously with cartels, but the women and children were clearly not the intended targets here.




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I have not made it through the whole thread - but this was a family that was basically cartel themselves. Look into the Lamb of God Murders. Papa Patriarch Evril LeBaron. This family is connected to some 25-30 murders a regular Mormon Hatfield and Macoy family. Car thieves and murders - including some of the adult women. Sad about those children though.
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Mr. Widmar, citing accounts from one of the surviving children, said the armed men killed Christina Langford despite her having left her vehicle with her hands up.

Referring to Mexico’s president by his nickname, he said: “If AMLO cannot deal with the cartels, he must resign or accept the help offered by Trump. We are living in the most absolute impunity.”


In response to the latest incident, Sen. Ben Sasse (R., Neb.), who sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Mexico is dangerously close to being a failed state.

“Mexico’s president hasn’t taken the threat seriously and innocent lives have been lost again.”

He said that Mexico must partner with the U.S. on a “full-scale offensive against these butchers.”



“Mr. Lopez Obrador’s strategy is clearly not working,” said María Elena Morera, the head of Causa en Común, an anticrime advocacy group.

“He can’t keep thinking that a government using legitimate force against criminals is what generates violence.”




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Sorcha is claiming Mitt Romney's family is what got targeted in Mexico, that it was drug related (as I stated it likely was) and if you look at the photos in Sorcha's report, it is obvious (as I stated) that the husbands of the women killed were all cartel.

This is therefore a nothing burger despite being as bad as it was, because for the cartels it was business as usual with the only difference being that the American side of the cartel got hit this time.

Claiming direct association to Mitt Romney is not something sorcha would do without a shred of evidence, I'd bet this claim is at least partially legit.

Heh, I gave it a closer look, the report is actually quite good.

WHERE HAVE YOUR MITTENS BEEN, MITT?

Nothing suprising here, move along!

Yes, I don't think my initial assessment was far off the mark AT ALL. It is the next item on this page.












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wtf

Langford also says the family has had interactions previously with cartels, but the women and children were clearly not the intended targets here.




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I have not made it through the whole thread - but this was a family that was basically cartel themselves. Look into the Lamb of God Murders. Papa Patriarch Evril LeBaron. This family is connected to some 25-30 murders a regular Mormon Hatfield and Macoy family. Car thieves and murders - including some of the adult women. Sad about those children though.
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I’ve posted a few links about the family, you are correct, at least what I’ve read about them.

One article called Ervil the Mormon Manson
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Y'all can thank dubya for the Mexican drug war and cartels.
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I am skeptical of the story line with the recent cartel killings in Mexico

The story line is that a bunch of women and children were going to a wedding and got killed on the way there by a drug cartel, and there's nothing more to the story at all. I call B.S.
First of all, the cartels are not stupid. If they attacked like this, it is because they got more than one cell phone bugged with a tracker and they only do that to their enemies. This story is not as simple as stated, because the vehicles were burned rather than taken, which means it really was a cartel and not thugs and cartels don't do crap like this unless it is against a competitor.

My guess is that there is a back story that goes something like this:

The husbands or any men associated with the women or children killed were doing deals their wives were clueless about, and to send a message, the cartels took what they could. If that happened to be women and children and burned out cars, it was only because that's ALL THEY COULD DO. The cartels did this via tracking bugs, there are LOTS of whites in Mexico, and lots of American plates in Mexico, why was it this group that got taken out? Answer: Because they had the tracking bug, which was put there for a reason. No other way out of this, cartels don't bother with ordinary people and if this was anything other than what I stated, everyone would have been taken alive and handed back for a ransom.

GUARANTEE: The group was "women and children only" because the men knew it was best to not go along, and doubted the cartels would get this nasty. As far as I see it, CASE CLOSED.



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I am skeptical of the story line with the recent cartel killings in Mexico

The story line is that a bunch of women and children were going to a wedding and got killed on the way there by a drug cartel, and there's nothing more to the story at all. I call B.S.
First of all, the cartels are not stupid. If they attacked like this, it is because they got more than one cell phone bugged with a tracker and they only do that to their enemies. This story is not as simple as stated, because the vehicles were burned rather than taken, which means it really was a cartel and not thugs and cartels don't do crap like this unless it is against a competitor.

My guess is that there is a back story that goes something like this:

The husbands or any men associated with the women or children killed were doing deals their wives were clueless about, and to send a message, the cartels took what they could. If that happened to be women and children and burned out cars, it was only because that's ALL THEY COULD DO. The cartels did this via tracking bugs, there are LOTS of whites in Mexico, and lots of American plates in Mexico, why was it this group that got taken out? Answer: Because they had the tracking bug, which was put there for a reason. No other way out of this, cartels don't bother with ordinary people and if this was anything other than what I stated, everyone would have been taken alive and handed back for a ransom.

GUARANTEE: The group was "women and children only" because the men knew it was best to not go along, and doubted the cartels would get this nasty. As far as I see it, CASE CLOSED.



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It would be interesting to know when the wedding was supposed to be or will be

Usually weddings are on the weekends, so this group would be staying the week once they reached Arizona?
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Mistaken identity my ass.
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Thread: Mormon colonies connected to the Romney family targeted in Mexico

MITT ROMNEY'S MORMON COLONY IN MEXICO GOT HIT BIG TIME!


GASP

SORCHA IS 100% ON THIS
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Mistaken identity my ass.
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Exactly

They were 10 miles apart

They were waiting for these woman
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Mistaken identity my ass.
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Exactly

They were 10 miles apart

They were waiting for these woman
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Some things just ain’t right

Men go to far
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I am skeptical of the story line with the recent cartel killings in Mexico

The story line is that a bunch of women and children were going to a wedding and got killed on the way there by a drug cartel, and there's nothing more to the story at all. I call B.S.
First of all, the cartels are not stupid. If they attacked like this, it is because they got more than one cell phone bugged with a tracker and they only do that to their enemies. This story is not as simple as stated, because the vehicles were burned rather than taken, which means it really was a cartel and not thugs and cartels don't do crap like this unless it is against a competitor.

My guess is that there is a back story that goes something like this:

The husbands or any men associated with the women or children killed were doing deals their wives were clueless about, and to send a message, the cartels took what they could. If that happened to be women and children and burned out cars, it was only because that's ALL THEY COULD DO. The cartels did this via tracking bugs, there are LOTS of whites in Mexico, and lots of American plates in Mexico, why was it this group that got taken out? Answer: Because they had the tracking bug, which was put there for a reason. No other way out of this, cartels don't bother with ordinary people and if this was anything other than what I stated, everyone would have been taken alive and handed back for a ransom.

GUARANTEE: The group was "women and children only" because the men knew it was best to not go along, and doubted the cartels would get this nasty. As far as I see it, CASE CLOSED.
One of the best posts on this thread!


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What in the fuck are Americans doing in Mexico?

Geez. Some people never learn.

It's like those idiots that were hiking in North Korea or was it Iran? And they got caught.
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They are dual citizens
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And your point is?

I'm Hispanic and you'll never see my kids, wife and I anywhere near that Shit hole country.
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A real mother fucker would like to see his country liberated. That's not you.
I lost my apathy.
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How many Americans will have to die before we just go in and fuck them up? I hope not many. Sign me the fuck up!
I lost my apathy.
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I think these idiot Mexicans finally just fucked themselves. With this one atrocious act, you've not only vindicated what Trump has said about you, but you've also vindicated any Military action that may come of it. You know that once we get going Militarily, it doesn't stop for a long long time. It's that serious what you've just done.
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I Am picturing a million heavily armed men in white shirts and black ties marching south to find the missing. Trump needs to do something quickly or Mormans are coming to clean house.
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rockon Love it! They're no soyboys that's for sure
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Seriously an odd comment. Mormon men ARE soyboys.
Real men would NEVER have wives and little children and babies galavant about a ghetto...or Detroit...or Mexico.

Wake up peeps. Stupid is as stupid does.

Play with fire and you get burnt. (A first life lesson for those with a brain to think for themselves.)
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She is a dumb fuck Q tard has no clue what happening
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How many Americans will have to die before we just go in and fuck them up? I hope not many. Sign me the fuck up!
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Mexicans are dead to pumpkin

About 100k of them

They’re people too

Jus sayin....
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Suddenly unpinned

Out



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How many Americans will have to die before we just go in and fuck them up? I hope not many. Sign me the fuck up!
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Mexicans are dead to pumpkin

About 100k of them

They’re people too

Jus sayin....
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Time to liberate them. Those who don't want to be liberated can die.
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There should be outrage that they kill people in Mexico and here on our soil. They need to fucking die. PERIOD
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There's one thing I find rather odd.

The video where Grandpa(presumably) is recording the Nita's burnt vehicle,...

Was that recorded before Mexican authorities got there?
If so; Where are the bodies?

I'm not pointing this out to discredit the event, I just find it weird that there are charred remains in the cabin.

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There's one thing I find rather odd.

The video where Grandpa(presumably) is recording the Nita's burnt vehicle,...

Was that recorded before Mexican authorities got there?
If so; Where are the bodies?

I'm not pointing this out to discredit the event, I just find it weird that there are charred remains in the cabin.

1dunno1
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One report I read said that the bodies were basically ash, a few bones left


But I thought the same thing as you, were are the bodies
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There's one thing I find rather odd.

The video where Grandpa(presumably) is recording the Nita's burnt vehicle,...

Was that recorded before Mexican authorities got there?
If so; Where are the bodies?

I'm not pointing this out to discredit the event, I just find it weird that there are charred remains in the cabin.

1dunno1
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forgot to link video. Nothing gruesome, per se, just a smoldering vehicle

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There's one thing I find rather odd.

The video where Grandpa(presumably) is recording Nita's burnt vehicle,...

Was that recorded before Mexican authorities got there?
If so; Where are the bodies?

I'm not pointing this out to discredit the event, I just find it weird that there are no charred remains in the cabin.

1dunno1
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One report I read said that the bodies were basically ash, a few bones left


But I thought the same thing as you, were are the bodies
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That report probably just assumed because stiff charred remains would be more understandable than a pile of ash, it's not like thermite was used.
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There's one thing I find rather odd.

The video where Grandpa(presumably) is recording Nita's burnt vehicle,...

Was that recorded before Mexican authorities got there?
If so; Where are the bodies?

I'm not pointing this out to discredit the event, I just find it weird that there are no charred remains in the cabin.

1dunno1
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One report I read said that the bodies were basically ash, a few bones left


But I thought the same thing as you, were are the bodies
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That report probably just assumed because stiff charred remains would be more understandable than a pile of ash, it's not like thermite was used.
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And reports are saying he found the car and then contacted authorities

Also noted, two of the cars were heading for a wedding, Tuesday?

Now maybe they were going to stay the week or the wedding was during the week but it’s kind of an odd time


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The LeBarons have been slaughtering each other for 100 years.

Now, the older of Ervil Baron's children are teaching the younger ones this same doctrine. They read from Ervil’s writings while he was in prison and they have meetings where they tell them, ‘This is the way it is. This is what God wanted and we’re here to carry on and establish the Kingdom of God.’ They refer to it as the KOG . . . They’ve been told, ‘Hey, you’ll reach the highest kingdom of heaven if you commit this murder, you’ll be an elect in the Kingdom of God,’ which they call an election made certain.
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Julian LeBaron, a cousin of one of the women, is on Mexican radio saying "We don't know who would attack women and children."

gtfo already you know?

This cult has been slaughtering each other's children for 10 decades.
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In the fall of 1989, local authorities here announced that six of Ervil’s youngest children, mostly teen-agers, left their separate Salt Lake City foster homes in an apparently coordinated escape and probably rejoined the cult in Mexico.

“These kids had contact with each other, they knew how to keep in touch and one night they all disappeared,” says Forbes.

If these children returned to Mexico, it was to a “bad scene” according to Rena Chynoweth. “The ranch was a veritable hotbed of hatred, militarism and illegal activities,” she writes in her book. “It was reputed to be an arsenal for many types of automatic weapons and the group was reported to be dealing in stolen cars and motorcycles from the U.S.”
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They weren't killed cartel style--they were killed LeBaron style.
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