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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im talking all types of fencing and decking. Quoting: Archaic Smile Any money in this field for a single operated company? Yes. Stupid money. Double material price then factor in labor. That's a very competitive bid. Rough carpenters framing houses can't touch the profit per square foot building decks and fences as opposed to framing a house. A good carpenter who knows how to lead a crew shouldn't have any problem clearing $1000 profit per day. I did it for years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im talking all types of fencing and decking. Quoting: Archaic Smile Any money in this field for a single operated company? To be clear, when I was building decks and fences Vinyl, Trex, and other composites were priced much higher. Composites were fairly new to the market at the time. It all depends on the type of system you're working with. Adjust labor accordingly. |
Archaic Smile (OP) User ID: 78093611 United States 12/02/2019 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you be able to do an installation solo or would you need a helper or helpers for all around fence and deck installation? And at another time, when they raised a question about fortifications, he said that a city is not unfortified whose crowning glory is men and not bricks and stones. -Plutarch, Moralia |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you be able to do an installation solo or would you need a helper or helpers for all around fence and deck installation? Quoting: Archaic Smile You need help, or you'll be burned out in no time. I usually worked with two other people. A $20 an hour carpenter and a laborer. Labor prices are much higher these days though. After you train a two man crew how to do the work the way you'd do it, you should be able to walk away and expand in other ways. Take care of your crew and they'll likely take care of you. Same profit margin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78141117 United States 12/02/2019 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure there is if you're good and know how to sell your work, unfortunately not from me and my wife though as we are dyi folks. We never ever pay to have anything done we can do ourselves, just the way it is. But seriously a good deck builder in a good market can do well. The last one we built out of Alaskan Yellow Cedar and we love it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78141117 United States 12/02/2019 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you be able to do an installation solo or would you need a helper or helpers for all around fence and deck installation? Quoting: Archaic Smile Some things you can work alone doing but at times you have to have more than one set of hands to do, start small if you can and especially if you don't have much carpentry experience. Start with garden boxes and dog houses, then work your way up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure there is if you're good and know how to sell your work, unfortunately not from me and my wife though as we are dyi folks. We never ever pay to have anything done we can do ourselves, just the way it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78141117 But seriously a good deck builder in a good market can do well. The last one we built out of Alaskan Yellow Cedar and we love it. Cedar is beautiful. Eastern Red is my favorite. I've built many cedar decks and fences. Too soft for a deck though. A dog will tear up the surface in three months and it must be maintained every year. Unless you like the weathered grey look. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72497887 United States 12/02/2019 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boss always told me to never tell the clients that we simply bought all supplies from the local big box hardware store. Me and another helper, and the owner is all it took. A large panel van to haul lumber/chainlink was the only large purchase up front. If tools larger than cordless drills were needed they were rented for the day. That dude could make ends meet working 5-10 days a month. He would have been very wealthy had we worked every day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boss always told me to never tell the clients that we simply bought all supplies from the local big box hardware store. Me and another helper, and the owner is all it took. A large panel van to haul lumber/chainlink was the only large purchase up front. If tools larger than cordless drills were needed they were rented for the day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72497887 That dude could make ends meet working 5-10 days a month. He would have been very wealthy had we worked every day. A good builder is definitely not buying the bulk of their material from Depot or Lowes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78141117 United States 12/02/2019 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure there is if you're good and know how to sell your work, unfortunately not from me and my wife though as we are dyi folks. We never ever pay to have anything done we can do ourselves, just the way it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78141117 But seriously a good deck builder in a good market can do well. The last one we built out of Alaskan Yellow Cedar and we love it. Cedar is beautiful. Eastern Red is my favorite. I've built many cedar decks and fences. Too soft for a deck though. A dog will tear up the surface in three months and it must be maintained every year. Unless you like the weathered grey look. I can hit this AYC with a hammer and not leave a dent, it's hard as fuck. Plus we use the best stain/sealer available, it's yellow and looks perfect. Fuck those composite decks that get so hot you can't walk on them, I like real wood. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77457727 United States 12/02/2019 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good way to get work building decks is to stop off at some stores that sell above ground pools and give them your cards. Hell, get into installing the above ground pools and build the decks,too! In season, you can make $1000 per pool install on average and two guys can install one in a day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure there is if you're good and know how to sell your work, unfortunately not from me and my wife though as we are dyi folks. We never ever pay to have anything done we can do ourselves, just the way it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78141117 But seriously a good deck builder in a good market can do well. The last one we built out of Alaskan Yellow Cedar and we love it. Cedar is beautiful. Eastern Red is my favorite. I've built many cedar decks and fences. Too soft for a deck though. A dog will tear up the surface in three months and it must be maintained every year. Unless you like the weathered grey look. I can hit this AYC with a hammer and not leave a dent, it's hard as fuck. Plus we use the best stain/sealer available, it's yellow and looks perfect. Fuck those composite decks that get so hot you can't walk on them, I like real wood. I'm a real wood guy myself. To be honest I have never worked with AYC. I've worked with some beautiful exotics. Brazilian Ipe is my favorite. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't just start "building decks" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76327228 License Bond Insurance Understanding local building codes so your "built deck" passes inspection and will not fall collapse 5 years later when the owner throws a Fourth of July bbq. still, good luck and hire two people That goes without say. |
Archaic Smile (OP) User ID: 78093611 United States 12/02/2019 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't just start "building decks" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76327228 License Bond Insurance Understanding local building codes so your "built deck" passes inspection and will not fall collapse 5 years later when the owner throws a Fourth of July bbq. still, good luck and hire two people Im going into this with no experience in fence installing or deck installing. Starting work for a small Fence and Deck company and basically want to know if this field is something I would be able to branch off and one day make my own business out of. Seems alot of people have posted that it can be profitable. But again I have no experience in this field other than being able to read a tape measure and using hand tools. Last Edited by Archaic Smile on 12/02/2019 05:13 PM And at another time, when they raised a question about fortifications, he said that a city is not unfortified whose crowning glory is men and not bricks and stones. -Plutarch, Moralia |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18631902 United States 12/02/2019 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't just start "building decks" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76327228 License Bond Insurance Understanding local building codes so your "built deck" passes inspection and will not fall collapse 5 years later when the owner throws a Fourth of July bbq. still, good luck and hire two people Im going into this with no experience in fence installing or deck installing. Starting work for a small Fence and Deck company and basically want to know if this field is something I would be able to branch off and one day make my own business out of. Seems alot of people have posted that it can be profitable. But again I have no experience in this field other than being able to read a tape measure and using hand tools. Decks and fences are ez cheese and basic carpentry skills are all that's required. If you're just starting out this is the best combination IMHO. I suggest you learn as much as you can from a good deck / fence builder while studying for Residential Builder's License. Study as many deck designs online as you can and experiment with drawing your own design. Your carpentry skills are next to your ability to design a nice and functional outdoor entertainment space. There are many online design programs that can help you with creative inspiration. Be a good student and go on job bids with your boss if possible. |
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Jeffersons Blackberry User ID: 78155187 United States 12/02/2019 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m seriously thinking of starting a handyman business myself. Decks and fences may not be in the cards however. I don’t want to hire/rely on anyone. “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”; Thomas Jefferson |
Archaic Smile (OP) User ID: 78093611 United States 12/02/2019 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m seriously thinking of starting a handyman business myself. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry Decks and fences may not be in the cards however. I don’t want to hire/rely on anyone. What sort of jobs would you take or do? And at another time, when they raised a question about fortifications, he said that a city is not unfortified whose crowning glory is men and not bricks and stones. -Plutarch, Moralia |
Jeffersons Blackberry User ID: 78155187 United States 12/03/2019 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m seriously thinking of starting a handyman business myself. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry Decks and fences may not be in the cards however. I don’t want to hire/rely on anyone. What sort of jobs would you take or do? Remodels, minor plumbing and electrical, drywall repair, framing... I wouldn’t take on anything that I couldn’t confidently complete. “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”; Thomas Jefferson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55229531 United States 12/03/2019 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m seriously thinking of starting a handyman business myself. Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry Decks and fences may not be in the cards however. I don’t want to hire/rely on anyone. most states require that you are "licensed and bonded" to use a hammer and nail to do anything. I have a friend that works for the state, busting guys on facebOOk / craigsIist, that advertise as handyman, remodel, building projects and similar |