BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70506116 United States 12/10/2019 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED |
Blue State Rebel User ID: 73724632 United States 12/10/2019 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Another clue to feds preparing for an arms raid is that there is NO "OMG something is happening!!!" dispatch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 The beginning of the event is literally talk of "moving the Bearcat over there." I bet the sting included needing to find probable cause to raid the residence. THE BEARCAT WAS ALREADY THERE, PEOPLE. Usually if something happens, there's lots of shooting and then "bring the Bearcat !!!!" But it was already there. Yup, the fact that the police & FBI were already on or so close to the scene at the beginning of the story to me indicates they were involved from the start. Maybe the whole thing was a sting. I like the story - and it IS a story at this point - of an arms deal arranged in the cemetery (nothing good ever happens in a graveyard), sting goes sideways, perps flee back to 223 MLK - maybe to pick stuff up, more arms....maybe to stick it to whoever they think ratted. FBI/Police are already there waiting. Then we have shoot out. Cops go in after everyone's dead, place is full of gas because someone wanted to blow it up - get rid of evidence? Or create a trap? Both? Why would they go there? If they were just fleeing - then.....flee. Who goes back to an apartment to flee? You go back to GET SOMETHING. Something of big value. I don't even think they'd go back for the rat. They can get the rat later. They went back for the rest of the stuff. Owner wasn't there because he knew what was going down. Just speculation. Unfortunately because the govt/media complex always lies to us we HAVE to speculate. Maybe just guns, maybe drugs and guns. Great combo! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 12/10/2019 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Another clue to feds preparing for an arms raid is that there is NO "OMG something is happening!!!" dispatch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 The beginning of the event is literally talk of "moving the Bearcat over there." I bet the sting included needing to find probable cause to raid the residence. THE BEARCAT WAS ALREADY THERE, PEOPLE. Usually if something happens, there's lots of shooting and then "bring the Bearcat !!!!" But it was already there. Yup, the fact that the police & FBI were already on or so close to the scene at the beginning of the story to me indicates they were involved from the start. Maybe the whole thing was a sting. I like the story - and it IS a story at this point - of an arms deal arranged in the cemetery (nothing good ever happens in a graveyard), sting goes sideways, perps flee back to 223 MLK - maybe to pick stuff up, more arms....maybe to stick it to whoever they think ratted. FBI/Police are already there waiting. Then we have shoot out. Cops go in after everyone's dead, place is full of gas because someone wanted to blow it up - get rid of evidence? Or create a trap? Both? Why would they go there? If they were just fleeing - then.....flee. Who goes back to an apartment to flee? You go back to GET SOMETHING. Something of big value. I don't even think they'd go back for the rat. They can get the rat later. They went back for the rest of the stuff. Owner wasn't there because he knew what was going down. Just speculation. Unfortunately because the govt/media complex always lies to us we HAVE to speculate. Maybe just guns, maybe drugs and guns. Great combo! Excellent synopsis. Don't forget the plugged toilets ;) |
Blue State Rebel User ID: 73724632 United States 12/10/2019 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Yes, our poster was right! 223 MLK Drive does indeed have 3000 square feet. I have to wonder if that includes the "store" on the first floor. No mention of that, in fact I don't see this store mentioned anywhere other than the news article. Quoting: Blue State Rebel From Zillow: "223 Martin Luther King Jr Dr, Jersey City, NJ is a multi family home that contains 3,000 sq ft. It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this house is $450,002, which has decreased by $9,437 in the last 30 days. The Rent Zestimate for this home is $2,500/mo, which has increased by $179/mo in the last 30 days. " [link to www.zillow.com (secure)] Nothing good ever happens on a road named after Martin Luther King Jr Yes, that has been true in my experience, LOL!!! |
Blue State Rebel User ID: 73724632 United States 12/10/2019 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Another clue to feds preparing for an arms raid is that there is NO "OMG something is happening!!!" dispatch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 The beginning of the event is literally talk of "moving the Bearcat over there." I bet the sting included needing to find probable cause to raid the residence. THE BEARCAT WAS ALREADY THERE, PEOPLE. Usually if something happens, there's lots of shooting and then "bring the Bearcat !!!!" But it was already there. Yup, the fact that the police & FBI were already on or so close to the scene at the beginning of the story to me indicates they were involved from the start. Maybe the whole thing was a sting. I like the story - and it IS a story at this point - of an arms deal arranged in the cemetery (nothing good ever happens in a graveyard), sting goes sideways, perps flee back to 223 MLK - maybe to pick stuff up, more arms....maybe to stick it to whoever they think ratted. FBI/Police are already there waiting. Then we have shoot out. Cops go in after everyone's dead, place is full of gas because someone wanted to blow it up - get rid of evidence? Or create a trap? Both? Why would they go there? If they were just fleeing - then.....flee. Who goes back to an apartment to flee? You go back to GET SOMETHING. Something of big value. I don't even think they'd go back for the rat. They can get the rat later. They went back for the rest of the stuff. Owner wasn't there because he knew what was going down. Just speculation. Unfortunately because the govt/media complex always lies to us we HAVE to speculate. Maybe just guns, maybe drugs and guns. Great combo! Excellent synopsis. Don't forget the plugged toilets ;) No seriously.....are there toilets in this saga too? Didn't hear that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 12/10/2019 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Yes, our poster was right! 223 MLK Drive does indeed have 3000 square feet. I have to wonder if that includes the "store" on the first floor. No mention of that, in fact I don't see this store mentioned anywhere other than the news article. Quoting: Blue State Rebel From Zillow: "223 Martin Luther King Jr Dr, Jersey City, NJ is a multi family home that contains 3,000 sq ft. It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this house is $450,002, which has decreased by $9,437 in the last 30 days. The Rent Zestimate for this home is $2,500/mo, which has increased by $179/mo in the last 30 days. " [link to www.zillow.com (secure)] Nothing good ever happens on a road named after Martin Luther King Jr Yes, that has been true in my experience, LOL!!! The property value decreased by almost 10K in the past 30 days (and the rent increased $179 in the same timeframe)? Is that normal lol? |
Blue State Rebel User ID: 73724632 United States 12/10/2019 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Yes, our poster was right! 223 MLK Drive does indeed have 3000 square feet. I have to wonder if that includes the "store" on the first floor. No mention of that, in fact I don't see this store mentioned anywhere other than the news article. Quoting: Blue State Rebel From Zillow: "223 Martin Luther King Jr Dr, Jersey City, NJ is a multi family home that contains 3,000 sq ft. It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this house is $450,002, which has decreased by $9,437 in the last 30 days. The Rent Zestimate for this home is $2,500/mo, which has increased by $179/mo in the last 30 days. " [link to www.zillow.com (secure)] Nothing good ever happens on a road named after Martin Luther King Jr Yes, that has been true in my experience, LOL!!! The property value decreased by almost 10K in the past 30 days (and the rent increased $179 in the same timeframe)? Is that normal lol? No, that doesn't make sense at all. The rent can always be jacked up, that doesn't necessarily tie to anything. Except...hey fuck Christmas! But why the prop value itself would drop...I don't know. Maybe something happening in the neighborhood? An overall drop? Prop values have been going UP....UP UP UP, I TELL YOU!!!! So that is strange. Maybe the building was just re-assessed and something was off or needed fixing. $10k isn't that much on a base of over $400k, but it IS going in the wrong direction. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21359249 United States 12/10/2019 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED After hearing all the theories and evidence posted here and finally getting some coffee in me I'm leaning on the theory that this happened though - FBI was already on scene to bust some local gang member on something and to make it a federal RICO case tied to organized crime. In the process of that, they walked right into a situation they didn't expect. The gang was heavily connected to a terrorist cell preparing for an attack soon, or the gang itself WAS the terrorist cell. It will be covered up so that the people aren't worried about sleeper terrorist cells roaming around that the FEDs are unaware of while they investigate who else they are linked to. In a few months when the ring is broken up, they will share all this information and gloat about it. |
Blue State Rebel User ID: 73724632 United States 12/10/2019 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED After hearing all the theories and evidence posted here and finally getting some coffee in me I'm leaning on the theory that this happened though - FBI was already on scene to bust some local gang member on something and to make it a federal RICO case tied to organized crime. In the process of that, they walked right into a situation they didn't expect. The gang was heavily connected to a terrorist cell preparing for an attack soon, or the gang itself WAS the terrorist cell. It will be covered up so that the people aren't worried about sleeper terrorist cells roaming around that the FEDs are unaware of while they investigate who else they are linked to. In a few months when the ring is broken up, they will share all this information and gloat about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21359249 I could see this scenario too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 12/10/2019 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED After hearing all the theories and evidence posted here and finally getting some coffee in me I'm leaning on the theory that this happened though - FBI was already on scene to bust some local gang member on something and to make it a federal RICO case tied to organized crime. In the process of that, they walked right into a situation they didn't expect. The gang was heavily connected to a terrorist cell preparing for an attack soon, or the gang itself WAS the terrorist cell. It will be covered up so that the people aren't worried about sleeper terrorist cells roaming around that the FEDs are unaware of while they investigate who else they are linked to. In a few months when the ring is broken up, they will share all this information and gloat about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21359249 The only time in US history a gang has been "tied to terrorists" was when the FBI false-flagged the Black P Stones and an imaginary "Libyan operation." Stones don't demo with no one. Never mind foreigners. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68702751 United States 12/10/2019 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED I'm from Jersey City and mods can confirm my location. The store is 2 blocks away from where I live. This isn't normal. Theres been a Jewish buildup in the areas on "the hill" aka MLK drive. They've been buying tons of houses. Similar to what they did in Brooklyn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78098375 None of this makes any sense. If I hear anything I'll let you guys know. Yes, he is geolocated from where he claims. There's TONS of guns in the area. This very well could be a sting operation turned bad. The gunmen could have been tipped off that the guys they were dealing with were Undercovers, and decided to ambush. On top of that, there's a ton of corruption in the police department here. City is a mess. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why flee to that specific store? Could be a on the fly decision...maybe they knew the ins and outs of the store and felt comfortable barricading themselves there? One thing is for sure, I'll find out exactly what happened and let you guys know If the response and tactics used by the NJ police department is all we have to fear, then my anxiety level just went down over gun confiscation. 200,000 NICS check on black Friday alone. If NJ cops can't storm a building and clear it with their SWAT teams, I will sleep peacefully tonight. The heroes went home safely, the kids across the street had to shelter in the back of the building. |
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Blue State Rebel User ID: 73724632 United States 12/10/2019 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Well, I'm gonna go off and check out our valiant POTUS' rally and hope he's having a good time. I expect GLP to have this all figured out with a full 300 page report with blue borders and embossing by the time I get back! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 12/10/2019 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED After hearing all the theories and evidence posted here and finally getting some coffee in me I'm leaning on the theory that this happened though - FBI was already on scene to bust some local gang member on something and to make it a federal RICO case tied to organized crime. In the process of that, they walked right into a situation they didn't expect. The gang was heavily connected to a terrorist cell preparing for an attack soon, or the gang itself WAS the terrorist cell. It will be covered up so that the people aren't worried about sleeper terrorist cells roaming around that the FEDs are unaware of while they investigate who else they are linked to. In a few months when the ring is broken up, they will share all this information and gloat about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21359249 The only time in US history a gang has been "tied to terrorists" was when the FBI false-flagged the Black P Stones and an imaginary "Libyan operation." Stones don't demo with no one. Never mind foreigners. Not suggesting these were Stones btw. Hair ain't right. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70612117 United States 12/10/2019 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED After hearing all the theories and evidence posted here and finally getting some coffee in me I'm leaning on the theory that this happened though - FBI was already on scene to bust some local gang member on something and to make it a federal RICO case tied to organized crime. In the process of that, they walked right into a situation they didn't expect. The gang was heavily connected to a terrorist cell preparing for an attack soon, or the gang itself WAS the terrorist cell. It will be covered up so that the people aren't worried about sleeper terrorist cells roaming around that the FEDs are unaware of while they investigate who else they are linked to. In a few months when the ring is broken up, they will share all this information and gloat about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21359249 The only time in US history a gang has been "tied to terrorists" was when the FBI false-flagged the Black P Stones and an imaginary "Libyan operation." Stones don't demo with no one. Never mind foreigners. Oh really? Then explain this. [link to www.chicagotribune.com (secure)] |
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WatchingEddyMin User ID: 78203045 Ireland 12/10/2019 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Go on Google Maps folks and look up 223 Mlk which is where this grocery store is supposedly located. This is very odd. Why would they stop HERE? Quoting: Blue State Rebel There's a big liquor store 2 doors down. And Hebrew writing on the next building which is connected, 221 I think. Why would they stop HERE? You wouldn't know it was a grocery store or anything just looking at it. Come on man, get it right. It’s a “likka stoe” 221 looks shady. 223 looks off too. No AC & someone on 2nd floor probably had a cat (mighta used window screen for child, only seen em used for cats though.) Ghetto neighborhood to sell premium products in, but some ppl like to get deals & maybe it keeps prices lower... Anyone know what Hebrew says? Last Edited by WatchingEddyMin on 12/10/2019 07:12 PM "Doom! Doom! Doom! Something seems to whisper it in the very dark trees of America." - DH Lawrence "If any question why we died, tell them because our father's lied" Epitaphs of War, Rudyard Kipling (lost son in WW1) |
Q33 User ID: 78187044 Canada 12/10/2019 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Unless you believe the other parasite thread which is claiming an elementary school full of just-discovered bodies. i don't believe anything! i was there live listening to it all afternoon! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75646296 United States 12/10/2019 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Now reporting on at least 2 active shooters and MULTIPLE locations Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227109 That's not possible. It is damn near impossible to legally carry a sidearm in NJ...oh...wait...you mean the shooter isn't a law abiding citizen?! I wonder if any citizens have yet to return fire to defend themselves, or if "run and hide" is the best defense they have access to. Gun free zones are the most dangerous places in the world. Yes! Run and hide, or better yet, go turn in your guns RIGHT NOW, and the shooting will stop. I promise..... Your Honor, I mean Michael, if i vote for you in the primary ... and I turn in all my guns ... will you put that shooting-cessation in writing??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 12/10/2019 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED After hearing all the theories and evidence posted here and finally getting some coffee in me I'm leaning on the theory that this happened though - FBI was already on scene to bust some local gang member on something and to make it a federal RICO case tied to organized crime. In the process of that, they walked right into a situation they didn't expect. The gang was heavily connected to a terrorist cell preparing for an attack soon, or the gang itself WAS the terrorist cell. It will be covered up so that the people aren't worried about sleeper terrorist cells roaming around that the FEDs are unaware of while they investigate who else they are linked to. In a few months when the ring is broken up, they will share all this information and gloat about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21359249 The only time in US history a gang has been "tied to terrorists" was when the FBI false-flagged the Black P Stones and an imaginary "Libyan operation." Stones don't demo with no one. Never mind foreigners. Oh really? Then explain this. [link to www.chicagotribune.com (secure)] $500????? OMFG!!!!!!!!!! Dude, he seriously just donated 95.3 lattés to the enemy. Damn him, damn him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 12/10/2019 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED After hearing all the theories and evidence posted here and finally getting some coffee in me I'm leaning on the theory that this happened though - FBI was already on scene to bust some local gang member on something and to make it a federal RICO case tied to organized crime. In the process of that, they walked right into a situation they didn't expect. The gang was heavily connected to a terrorist cell preparing for an attack soon, or the gang itself WAS the terrorist cell. It will be covered up so that the people aren't worried about sleeper terrorist cells roaming around that the FEDs are unaware of while they investigate who else they are linked to. In a few months when the ring is broken up, they will share all this information and gloat about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21359249 The only time in US history a gang has been "tied to terrorists" was when the FBI false-flagged the Black P Stones and an imaginary "Libyan operation." Stones don't demo with no one. Never mind foreigners. Oh really? Then explain this. [link to www.chicagotribune.com (secure)] $500????? OMFG!!!!!!!!!! Dude, he seriously just donated 95.3 lattés to the enemy. Damn him, damn him. That is one shitty-ass low level sting, man. They ain't even gotta 1099 him. Penny ante, my friend ;) |
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Deplorable Revbo™ User ID: 72765464 United States 12/10/2019 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Yes, our poster was right! 223 MLK Drive does indeed have 3000 square feet. I have to wonder if that includes the "store" on the first floor. No mention of that, in fact I don't see this store mentioned anywhere other than the news article. Quoting: Blue State Rebel From Zillow: "223 Martin Luther King Jr Dr, Jersey City, NJ is a multi family home that contains 3,000 sq ft. It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this house is $450,002, which has decreased by $9,437 in the last 30 days. The Rent Zestimate for this home is $2,500/mo, which has increased by $179/mo in the last 30 days. " [link to www.zillow.com (secure)] Nothing good ever happens on a road named after Martin Luther King Jr Not true, my friend - a local state government official gives the Chinese Communist Party a big middle finger every year by flying the Tibetan flag on our MLK :) Always feels good. Every year the China Consulate calls him and threatens him--and every year he lets the Tibetans fly the flag. It's nothing short of awesome. Alright, so something good happens on ONE MLK Blvd. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
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Deplorable Revbo™ User ID: 72765464 United States 12/10/2019 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Yes, our poster was right! 223 MLK Drive does indeed have 3000 square feet. I have to wonder if that includes the "store" on the first floor. No mention of that, in fact I don't see this store mentioned anywhere other than the news article. Quoting: Blue State Rebel From Zillow: "223 Martin Luther King Jr Dr, Jersey City, NJ is a multi family home that contains 3,000 sq ft. It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this house is $450,002, which has decreased by $9,437 in the last 30 days. The Rent Zestimate for this home is $2,500/mo, which has increased by $179/mo in the last 30 days. " [link to www.zillow.com (secure)] Nothing good ever happens on a road named after Martin Luther King Jr Yes, that has been true in my experience, LOL!!! The property value decreased by almost 10K in the past 30 days (and the rent increased $179 in the same timeframe)? Is that normal lol? Zillow’s not bad, but it’s not perfect. Their numbers are about 80% reliable in my experience. Sometimes, weird moves like that happen, too. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
The Patriot_2020 User ID: 51867666 United States 12/10/2019 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER - Jersey City, NJ, 2 Shooters, Multiple Locations, FBI Present, Possible IED Yes, our poster was right! 223 MLK Drive does indeed have 3000 square feet. I have to wonder if that includes the "store" on the first floor. No mention of that, in fact I don't see this store mentioned anywhere other than the news article. Quoting: Blue State Rebel From Zillow: "223 Martin Luther King Jr Dr, Jersey City, NJ is a multi family home that contains 3,000 sq ft. It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this house is $450,002, which has decreased by $9,437 in the last 30 days. The Rent Zestimate for this home is $2,500/mo, which has increased by $179/mo in the last 30 days. " [link to www.zillow.com (secure)] Nothing good ever happens on a road named after Martin Luther King Jr Not true, my friend - a local state government official gives the Chinese Communist Party a big middle finger every year by flying the Tibetan flag on our MLK :) Always feels good. Every year the China Consulate calls him and threatens him--and every year he lets the Tibetans fly the flag. It's nothing short of awesome. If you rule out the inner city murders....I agree with you buddy. Death to Traitors |