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Message Subject WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
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Waiting with bated breath for the update ......
 Quoting: Martha Edwards


The news will not be good!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


I think the same as you...

Since no EU (geographically talking) countries are really deciding for strict rules or lockdowns, I think DR predictive model will lead to a very very bad things for the next future.


I also wanna share some fresh news I got 10 minutes ago from one of my job colleagues (Rome - Italy)...

My colleague's aunt got the Covid-19 while she was hospitalized in a "elder hospice".
6 patients are currently positive (mostly over 75 years old); two of them went ICU last night.

They were all infected by a nurse, who was an asymptomatic positive.

This nurse knew nothing about being positive, because the last "blood rapid test" (sierological test, no swab test) had negative result.

But now, everyone is allowed to visit his relatives without presenting any kind of documentation or testing results.
Although hospitals, private hospitals and hospice in Italy are really "clean" and follow all the sanitary "rules", people can enter almost freely.

And I am also starting to think that sierological test may have an high percentage of "false negative" results.


It is happening again what happened during the first wave.

Not good...
 Quoting: Leonero


I had wrote a comment adding a local anecdote of a similar case of asymptomatic health worker to mother transmission that ended with the demise of the health care worker mother. Something of what I wrote wasn’t liked by the GLP filter.

Anyway, about serological tests, these are more prone to false negatives than PCR tests, but the problem is less from the test itself than the moment of sampling and the window of time after infection for sampling. All testing methods have uncertainties, but serological tests are harder to get right, at least in the case of Covid-19.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Yeah, looks like serological are not good enough for Covid-19, and this makes me feel very anxious...
Most of my clients have done the sierological test and got negative result, and my brother did it too (because he had to do a medical examination last week in hospital)... He got the result in less than 15 minutes.
But I really don't trust this kind of test... Too many people who thought they were negative, infected other people... And now they also have to carry the psychological burden of what's happening to their friends and relatives. (because they had no clue about being asymptomatic cases).


Waiting with bated breath for the update ......
 Quoting: Martha Edwards


The news will not be good!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


I think the same as you...

Since no EU (geographically talking) countries are really deciding for strict rules or lockdowns, I think DR predictive model will lead to a very very bad things for the next future.


I also wanna share some fresh news I got 10 minutes ago from one of my job colleagues (Rome - Italy)...

My colleague's aunt got the Covid-19 while she was hospitalized in a "elder hospice".
6 patients are currently positive (mostly over 75 years old); two of them went ICU last night.

They were all infected by a nurse, who was an asymptomatic positive.

This nurse knew nothing about being positive, because the last "blood rapid test" (sierological test, no swab test) had negative result.

But now, everyone is allowed to visit his relatives without presenting any kind of documentation or testing results.
Although hospitals, private hospitals and hospice in Italy are really "clean" and follow all the sanitary "rules", people can enter almost freely.

And I am also starting to think that sierological test may have an high percentage of "false negative" results.


It is happening again what happened during the first wave.

Not good...
 Quoting: Leonero

Read this
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79496068


Thanks dude. I already read about it.
My mother spent her last months in a hospice (years ago). I can imagine the pain that patients' relatives are suffering without any chance to have a contact with their loved ones...

Btw, My local story comes from an elder hospice in the "Castelli Romani" zone.

Stay safe!
 
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