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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78789862 United States 04/14/2020 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1/2 of Americans have a pre-existing condition regardless of age. You're willing to throw them all under the bus? It's fine if the answer is yes, I just want the number of truly susceptible individuals acknowledged by someone that clearly wants to take this path. The basis of good health is known. In spite of this, many people are in poor health. Those with poor health age faster and die younger. However, we all die. Should it be otherwise? |
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(:-DeeZe User ID: 75602265 Canada 04/14/2020 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (:-DeeZe "The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry" “To live content with small means; to seek elegance rather than luxury, and refinement rather than fashion, to be worthy, not respectable, and wealthy, not rich; to study hard, think quietly, talk gently, act frankly, to listen to stars and birds, to babes and sages, with open heart, to bear all cheerfully, to all bravely await occasions, hurry never. In a word, to let the spiritual unbidden and unconscious grow up through the common. This is to be my symphony.” .........William Henry Channing |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69543994 United States 04/14/2020 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | where is the documented proof that a healthy person with no symptoms who hasn't been sick in years and spread corona virus and kill someone else? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66413668 also where is the proof it has a 14-28 day incubation period. these are the 2 lies they used to close the globe some I'm looking for factual information. because it seems like a lie 14-28 day avg. time for reinfection. source? if you don't have a source it's a rumor |
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chrion777 User ID: 78283975 United States 04/14/2020 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good job compiling links and this perspective. Personally I think this is good for academic analysis but would be surprised if any of this played out significantly in the real world. 1) It is possible that COVID will mutaute, however typically they become less lethal, not more lethal with each mutation. 2) COVID has an R0 somewhere between 2.2 - 6.6; probably closer to the 4-4 - 6.6 range; Between 40-80% will achieve heard immunity. We know people become immune to this because Immunoglobulin therapy works and people are testing with positive Titers. The people who have been 'reinfected' likely were never compeltely over the illness. This virus seems to go 'stealth' and can take 4+ weeks or more to totally vanquish. 3) ADE seems like a research topic that we should keep an eye out for; but it's way too early as to whether this will play a significant role in the way we manage public health. 4) As for the HIV Inserts; if this actually was bio-engineered ; and I tend to think it was given the papers from the Chinese Wuhan Scientistt who was experimenting from 2007-2015 with 'HIV psudo-virus subsystems and coronavirus' - jsut because it has a few of these proteins and that allowed for 'cross species jump' does not mean it is really 'airborne aids' as I've heard people say. What this COULD mean however is that a much greater range of zoological animals will become a reserve for this virus and that could trigger both further mutuations and make it much harder to irradiate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78629642 Canada 04/14/2020 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars for thought provoking discussion.... I've been asking myself for a couple days if this virus is a slow ELE..I'm not sure I want to think about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78630189 ‘Slow ELE’ is pretty much what I’ve been thinking after having read a couple of articles suggesting that COVID survivors don’t acquire immunity to the virus. Since there likely never will be a vaccine or an effective treatment, our only hope is that the virus will mutate into something less virulent and deadly. If no immunity can be acquired, then it follows that the 80% who survive with no symptoms, or moderate symptoms, will be permanent reservoirs of the virus who can infect everyone they come into contact with, and in turn be reinfected themselves and die or get sicker than the first time around. If COVID-19 was as benign as the common cold, being permanently infected, so long as there were no symptoms, wouldn’t be a problem. The thought that the pandemic could be an extinction level event is scary; scarier than even a global nuclear war. It chills me to the bone in a way that nothing else ever has. And if no herd immunity can be acquired, then all of the lockdowns and quarantines are totally pointless. Might as well let everything go back to normal and live while we can, for as long as we can. Let ‘er rip, for tomorrow we die. Perhaps the realization that the pandemic is a potential ELE could be why the government and health care experts are pushing for an 18-month lockdown - they know we’re basically done as a species but are trying to avoid causing unending mass panic, or trying to salvage what little of our world can be salvaged. I can only hope that when I get the virus (and sooner or later everyone will get it), that it takes me so quickly I won’t know what hit me. Or know that I’m dying. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 04/14/2020 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PINK EYE, NAUSEA AND VOMITING? Give me a FUCKING break. My local TV station just mentioned pink eye as a "covid symptom." Ok whatever people, next it will be a rash and hiccups and ear discharge and toe blisters and what-the-fuck-ever-else. Color me a disbeliever in ALL of this goofy nonsense. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 04/14/2020 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PINK EYE, NAUSEA AND VOMITING? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 Give me a FUCKING break. My local TV station just mentioned pink eye as a "covid symptom." Ok whatever people, next it will be a rash and hiccups and ear discharge and toe blisters and what-the-fuck-ever-else. Color me a disbeliever in ALL of this goofy nonsense. I'll tell ya what REALLY probably happened: Our biowarfare program decided to release approximately 10 newly-engineered bugs and track their progress. "TESTING!! TESTING!! WE MUST HAVE COVID TESTING!!!" It's only to track the many bugs. I doubt there really even is anything called "covid" for any practical purpose. |
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Red Hot Chilean Pepe User ID: 76933812 Chile 04/14/2020 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before I get started, I want to state this tread is for the presentation and discussion of Research. Quoting: N3m3s1s This thread is PACKED with research. To skim through will take you 20 minutes. To understand and read everything linked will take you many hours. Be patient because you will understand more about this virus than 99% of the people out there if you digest this information. Others research and theories are invited so please add what you can. I’ve followed and read the BIG thread since early January and unfortunately it has evolved into a general discussion thread about much other than the virus. OK, so here we go. Primary discussion and research will be on four aspects. Herd Immunity. ADE (Antibody Deficient Enhancement) Increased Death rates in older populations Vaccination Part 1. I’ve been watching this Virus (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19, since early January and have read many research papers and articles on this particular Virus and also other Corona Virus types. I will reveal why other Corona Virus types are important to this discussion later. All of this has been in my head for a while and I wanted to put my thoughts down in one place. What I am going to post is going to warp some people’s minds but these are the conclusions I’ve come to about COVID19. I will discuss “Herd Immunity” and why COVID19 is more lethal in older populations. With this also comes the discussion of a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2. The term Herd Immunity has been much touted as a way that we as a society can get beyond this virus and start back to a normal life What if I told you that there is no herd immunity to this virus? At least not in our lifetimes. What if I told you that there is a mechanism by which SAR-CoV-2 could reinfect and be even more lethal amongst those reinfected than the first infection? What if I told you that I am doubtful that a vaccine could be developed for this virus with current technologies? How would this change things for society as a whole? I will follow up this initial post with the research that has lead me to these conclusions. Finally someone paying attention and thinking. Kudos OP!!!! All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78715053 United States 04/14/2020 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good job OP You dissected a hypothetic imaginary virus. Its not that deep, if it were real we would have SOME new information available. Theyre acting like its some sort of mysterious virus that millions of people who study virus's cant figure out. Thats a lot of brain power for no answers. Unless there is no answer. And thats the point. Keep guessing and playing the game. Pay no attention to anything else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75213815 United States 04/14/2020 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PINK EYE, NAUSEA AND VOMITING? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 Give me a FUCKING break. My local TV station just mentioned pink eye as a "covid symptom." Ok whatever people, next it will be a rash and hiccups and ear discharge and toe blisters and what-the-fuck-ever-else. Color me a disbeliever in ALL of this goofy nonsense. Thread: THE RED PILL - Share this far and wide. ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75213815 United States 04/14/2020 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PINK EYE, NAUSEA AND VOMITING? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77067311 Give me a FUCKING break. My local TV station just mentioned pink eye as a "covid symptom." Ok whatever people, next it will be a rash and hiccups and ear discharge and toe blisters and what-the-fuck-ever-else. Color me a disbeliever in ALL of this goofy nonsense. Thread: THE RED PILL - Share this far and wide. ! |
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Vaellene User ID: 77839413 United States 04/14/2020 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is already a Vaccine, This thing has been in the works for some time to Chip people Last Edited by Vaellene on 04/14/2020 08:45 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70963491 United States 04/14/2020 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before I get started, I want to state this tread is for the presentation and discussion of Research. Quoting: N3m3s1s This thread is PACKED with research. To skim through will take you 20 minutes. To understand and read everything linked will take you many hours. Be patient because you will understand more about this virus than 99% of the people out there if you digest this information. Others research and theories are invited so please add what you can. I’ve followed and read the BIG thread since early January and unfortunately it has evolved into a general discussion thread about much other than the virus. OK, so here we go. Primary discussion and research will be on four aspects. Herd Immunity. ADE (Antibody Deficient Enhancement) Increased Death rates in older populations Vaccination Part 1. I’ve been watching this Virus (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19, since early January and have read many research papers and articles on this particular Virus and also other Corona Virus types. I will reveal why other Corona Virus types are important to this discussion later. All of this has been in my head for a while and I wanted to put my thoughts down in one place. What I am going to post is going to warp some people’s minds but these are the conclusions I’ve come to about COVID19. I will discuss “Herd Immunity” and why COVID19 is more lethal in older populations. With this also comes the discussion of a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2. The term Herd Immunity has been much touted as a way that we as a society can get beyond this virus and start back to a normal life What if I told you that there is no herd immunity to this virus? At least not in our lifetimes. What if I told you that there is a mechanism by which SAR-CoV-2 could reinfect and be even more lethal amongst those reinfected than the first infection? What if I told you that I am doubtful that a vaccine could be developed for this virus with current technologies? How would this change things for society as a whole? I will follow up this initial post with the research that has lead me to these conclusions. 5 stars OP. Give us more. |
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BoatMan User ID: 78122930 United States 04/14/2020 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before I get started, I want to state this tread is for the presentation and discussion of Research. Quoting: N3m3s1s This thread is PACKED with research. To skim through will take you 20 minutes. To understand and read everything linked will take you many hours. Be patient because you will understand more about this virus than 99% of the people out there if you digest this information. Others research and theories are invited so please add what you can. I’ve followed and read the BIG thread since early January and unfortunately it has evolved into a general discussion thread about much other than the virus. OK, so here we go. Primary discussion and research will be on four aspects. Herd Immunity. ADE (Antibody Deficient Enhancement) Increased Death rates in older populations Vaccination Part 1. I’ve been watching this Virus (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19, since early January and have read many research papers and articles on this particular Virus and also other Corona Virus types. I will reveal why other Corona Virus types are important to this discussion later. All of this has been in my head for a while and I wanted to put my thoughts down in one place. What I am going to post is going to warp some people’s minds but these are the conclusions I’ve come to about COVID19. I will discuss “Herd Immunity” and why COVID19 is more lethal in older populations. With this also comes the discussion of a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2. The term Herd Immunity has been much touted as a way that we as a society can get beyond this virus and start back to a normal life What if I told you that there is no herd immunity to this virus? At least not in our lifetimes. What if I told you that there is a mechanism by which SAR-CoV-2 could reinfect and be even more lethal amongst those reinfected than the first infection? What if I told you that I am doubtful that a vaccine could be developed for this virus with current technologies? How would this change things for society as a whole? I will follow up this initial post with the research that has lead me to these conclusions. ProTip: “viruses” aren’t real in the way we were taught.. please wake the fuck up and read the actual science these Talmudists base your “reality” upon... they’re stupid as fuck. Dr. Edgar Hope-Simpson and Louis Pasteur would agree with me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78126516 United States 04/14/2020 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so abbreviation of your analysis is.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67193667 There is no cure. It attacks the body much like aids and uses our immune system against us. It is highly contagious which means there is no way to stop it ever in a world of millions infected. It's mutation process is so quick that no one will become immune, and it will reinfect those who have antibioties and it will be worse the next time they get the upgraded version. The healthcare workers will surely all be wiped out first, because they all have it if they've treated it. And the only people in the world who will survive will be 1. those who avoid humanity as a whole, survivors and preppers who may last the 10 years it takes to cycle enough times to kill everyone. 2. those living in such remote areas that they never come in contact with the outside world. Great, so we should kinda do what Prince says huh? Party like it's 1999? I mean why not? If the doom u post is true, it's kinda like saying ur going to get nuked and die. Do you want to b at ground zero where the nuke hits, or do u want to suffer and die a slow death from radioactive fallout one or two years later after society collapses anyway and the quality of life is destroyed and gone. I understand most on glp have dreamed of this day. But honestly. Is it a reality u truly want to live in? What is the quality of everyones lives going to b now? Yes. |
BoatMan User ID: 78122930 United States 04/14/2020 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it is true that one of the spreading versions of Coronavirus has the HIV envelope. Quoting: Jake Nobody on earth will have heard immunity to that version of the virus. 10% of the European population is immune to HIV. HIV doesnt exist. facts, besides the absurd claim of antibody tests and the concept of “isolating” are, no one has ever isolated HIV and received consensus from their peers |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 04/14/2020 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so abbreviation of your analysis is.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67193667 There is no cure. It attacks the body much like aids and uses our immune system against us. It is highly contagious which means there is no way to stop it ever in a world of millions infected. It's mutation process is so quick that no one will become immune, and it will reinfect those who have antibioties and it will be worse the next time they get the upgraded version. The healthcare workers will surely all be wiped out first, because they all have it if they've treated it. And the only people in the world who will survive will be 1. those who avoid humanity as a whole, survivors and preppers who may last the 10 years it takes to cycle enough times to kill everyone. 2. those living in such remote areas that they never come in contact with the outside world. Great, so we should kinda do what Prince says huh? Party like it's 1999? I mean why not? If the doom u post is true, it's kinda like saying ur going to get nuked and die. Do you want to b at ground zero where the nuke hits, or do u want to suffer and die a slow death from radioactive fallout one or two years later after society collapses anyway and the quality of life is destroyed and gone. I understand most on glp have dreamed of this day. But honestly. Is it a reality u truly want to live in? What is the quality of everyones lives going to b now? Yes. No. This is not a single "disease." The minute "it" started bifurcating into "often presents with no fever" to "high long-lasting fever," that was it. Never mind the "dry cough" and you "drown in your own congestion" + pink eye. |