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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.
You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.
For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ


1 Thessalonians 5:4-9
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Sigh.. just stop..seriously..stop.
All you keep doing is posting scripture verses; that are talking about god pouring his judgments,out on the wicked while protecting his elect.

None of these say ANYTHING about being whisked away to heaven before the great tribulation.
You are just taking these scriptures and seeing what you WANT to see in them.
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The Purpose of the Great Tribulation

The purpose of this ordeal, the Time of Jacobs Trouble, is to drive Israel en extremis, to return to God: I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly (Hosea 5:15). Interesting Old Testament passage: God says, I will go and return to my place To return, He must have left it! Watch those untils in the text: they often denote significant milestones. The term offence is singular and specific. Apparently, a prerequisite condition for the Second Coming of Christ is for Israel to acknowledge her Messiah and to petition His return. (This would help explain why Satan continues to be so intensely committed to the Je,ws destruction.)

[link to www.khouse.org]
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The Purpose of The Tribulation is that Israel accept Yeshua HaMashiach.

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The Purpose of The Tribulation is not The Church.



hmm
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But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.
You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.
For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ


1 Thessalonians 5:4-9
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Sigh.. just stop..seriously..stop.
All you keep doing is posting scripture verses; that are talking about god pouring his judgments,out on the wicked while protecting his elect.

None of these say ANYTHING about being whisked away to heaven before the great tribulation.
You are just taking these scriptures and seeing what you WANT to see in them.
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“THIS DAY” simply means the time of the end. The times you live in now. Your in the tribulation. Tell me why God has not taken you away in the clouds?
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You + are = You're...
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Your in the tribulation.
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:bridec:...……. The days of plenty are over....…….:bridea:

The days of grinding poverty and unimageable hardship are nearly upon us. The Corona Virus is just on of many manmade plagues that can be unleashed upon us at any time. Except for a few, all the rest of our leaders have made their deal with the devil. He wants to drag you down to hell with him, and if you are still here after the Rapture it will be because of your wilful blindness.

You have still been blessed with a little time, so don't waste it. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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If

The Magog invasion.. occurs prior to the beginning of the 70th Week...

and the Magog invasion happens after the Rapture of the Church...

hmm
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Pentecost?

Hope so...

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Enoch born on Hag Shavuot - Pentecost

Enoch translated/'raptured' on Hag Shavuot - Pentecost

Enoch as a type of the Church.. born on Pentecost...

Hag Shavuot, Feast of Weeks, Harvest, Pentecost
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the body of Christ is to follow GODS instructions through Paul... why do you not believe GODS word?
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Paul ONLY? BULLSHIITE.

Jesus said He was sent to Israel...BUT...

Jesus denied / refused NO ONE.

The "crumbs" / Caananite woman.
The centurion.
The Samaritans.

And notice this - what Father God told Isaiah - and was repeated in Matthew.

Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

Matthew 12

15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

16 And charged them that they should not make him known:

17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,

18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

19 He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.

20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.

21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

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so when GOD sends us a messenger, Paul, you say don't believe it... you are a servant of satan and headed for hell.
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german7: You call yourself Servant-of-the-LORD, but to be honest about it you sound more like a Pharisee to me. Yet another person who refuses to accept what the bible says in clear language. The fact of the matter is that death can strike anyone of us at any time, and if you are not right with the Lord before then, then you will be going the hell along with so many others that the bible says that it will have to be enlarged because it is too small. So just which LORD is it that you really serve?
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What the Bible says?

Jesus CLEARLY states that we WILL SEE tribulation.

Jesus CLEARLY states that He doesn't return UNTIL just BEFORE the "Wrath".

Read through this passage. I've added breaks at "paragraph parts" to make it easier to understand.

Matthew 24:4-31

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All* these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.

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... he also CLEARLY states his earthly message is to the priesthood... you work for satan
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"More proof that the Rapture is Pre-Trib is hidden in the timing of the Two Witnesses. The evidence for this becomes clear as we investigate the question of when the Two Witnesses' ministry begins-during the first half of the Tribulation, or during the second."


"When the first day of the 7-year Trib period (i.e., Daniel's 70th week, Daniel 9:27) begins, it is then that the Two Witnesses appear; their ministry begins on Day 1 of the Trib period, and ends on Day 1,260, when the Antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation and goes out to murder them.

Now, when you see the impossibility of the time of the Two Witnesses' ministry being in the second half, thus requiring that it be in the first half, you can see the evidence for the Rapture showing clearly as Pre-Trib. Think about it for a moment. The Church of Jesus Christ is commanded to be Jesus' witnesses. (Acts 1:8) Why would God put into operation these two spectacular witnesses to bear witness of Jesus Christ, if the Church were still on Earth to do that job as it has for the past 2,000 years?"

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You'll pull anything out of your rump to keep that pre trib rapture fable alive eh?

So your argument is literally 'Pre trib rapture has to be true,because the Christians can't be on the earth at the same time as the two witnesses.'

Dumb argument through and through.
Even if there WAS a pre trib rapture there would still be
Christians that got saved after the rapture,on earth at the same time as the two witnesses.

Keep throwing out these hilarious arguments that make zero sense.I'm sure something will stick eventually haha
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There will be NO Christians after rapture on earth... the people that come to belief after rapture will be beheaded and become the marters under the alter...
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No, no, no...

Your hypothetical bullshit so you can say I wouldn't believe right but you would!

By what twisted logic do you think I will curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen and the mark of the beast is proposed?!

BULLDUNG.
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My hope and prayer is to have the faith of Jesus Christ. The same faith that lead him to be slaughtered on the cross for the glory of the Father and for the love of mankind.

I pray never to be presumptuous. Those who think they stand take heed lest you fall.
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Why do you say I would curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen?
He died for you.
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Matthew 24:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

What I say on this internet forum should not be taken personally.
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... please show me where GOD said gentiles should follow Mathew...
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I remember back in the 70's and 80's, all the religious eggheads took a passage from the Old Testament book of Ezekiel (Chapter 38) to mean that Russia was going to invade Israel and be wiped out. So I read that book of Ezekiel for myself, quietly and deliberately, and realised that all the religious leaders were flippin' nuts. There's quite a bit to say, but basically for that prophecy to be fulfilled (read Chapter 38 for yourselves!), Israel would have to be at peace with every nation on earth, all their walls would have to be torn down, and if we're talking about today, Benjamin Netanyahu would have to be the Messiah, because Messiah will be ruling from Jerusalem when an army from the north will attack. I have it on very good authority (common sense) that Netanyahu is not Messiah, and the rest is obvious, so the confident religious leaders can take their stuff.....and stuff it. (Not intending to turn anyone here away from real truth about Jesus)
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Nice hypocrisy there...
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You've done nothi8ng but shit your accusations all over me.
Jesus Christ will Judge between us.
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Yeah he'll judge that I believe what he said in Matthew 24 will happen.

Meanwhile you'll keep ignoring what he actually said in favor of 'silent raptures' and other fables instead
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who was Jesus speaking to in Matt. 24... the priesthood...nothing to do with the body of Christ...
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:bridec:...……. The days of plenty are over....…….:bridea:

The days of grinding poverty and unimageable hardship are nearly upon us. The Corona Virus is just on of many manmade plagues that can be unleashed upon us at any time. Except for a few, all the rest of our leaders have made their deal with the devil. He wants to drag you down to hell with him, and if you are still here after the Rapture it will be because of your wilful blindness.

You have still been blessed with a little time, so don't waste it. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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Cunt
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You're a VERY nasty person ... if you don't know about rapture, it isn't for you... enjoy your 7 years...
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Rapture has NOTHING to do with salvation.
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Yes it does actually. quietpool The dead in the Lord first, then we who are still alive.


1 Thessalonians 4:17 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the LORD in the air. And so we will be with the LORD forever.
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What the fuck is a rapture?
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Follow this link for more background info ==> [link to www.raptureprophecy.com]

The Rapture is the taking away of GOD'S Obedient Believers just before His Wrath Judgment begins on this planet once again.

The first Wrath Judgment was the flood Noah and his family were saved from.

A third Wrath Judgment will occur when satan is released from his 1000 year prison sentence and he goes deceiving nations again. This time satan will face Eternal Death being toss into the Lake of Fire.

You have to be "Born-again" (saved) in order to be qualified to be called a Child of GOD & Raptured

It involves the confession of faith:
1. You must speak the words that you accept Christ
as your Lord and Savior. Refuting all sins and repenting
from them.
2. Be water submerged baptize in Lord Jesus Christ's name. (Holy Spirit changed this requirement)
3. Either pray (ask) for the anointing of the Holy Spirit on your soul or have two believers lay hands on you for impartation.

More info can be found here => [link to internet-a.biz (secure)]

Hope this helps...
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Rapture has NOTHING to do with salvation.
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You know I never once, in hundreds of exchanges with you, said that it did.

So why do you say this?
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It was a "gut check" for all who are reading and posting.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Rapture has NOTHING to do with salvation.
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You know I never once, in hundreds of exchanges with you, said that it did.

So why do you say this?
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It was a "gut check" for all who are reading and posting.
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kawon2 You are making way too many spammy and repetitive posts

that are contributing nothing to the salvation of peoples souls. In future please keep it to one or two a page (of reasonable length) and at least try and make them readable.
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takeheed blackcat For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

kitty WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
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Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Matthew 24:44


But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


Jesus would not tell us to seek to be counted worthy to escape these things to come
if some were not found worthy to escape these things to come
and escaped these things to come.


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german3 That's a nice post. hf
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What will happen to all of your beloved pets when Yahshua returns?
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What will happen to all of your beloved pets when Yahshua returns?
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girlwithdog I think that your the first person to ever raise this question on one of my threads.

However I have watched a few peoples Rapture videos on You Tube where this subject has come up, basically a lot of people are very hopeful that they will be reunited with their pets in heaven. There are a couple of cats that I'm hoping to meet again, so I'm hopeful as well.

Matt 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will.

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Well, in my region we are facing a severe drought. Many are out of water many are and losing their crops. But the weather is giving signs that it may rain during this night. I would no say it WILL rain this night. I have not the exact data nor a perfect mathematical model to grant an accurate prediction. If Y said to You "IT WILL RAIN THIS NIGHT" I could be lying, and lies are a thing for the father of lies - Satan.

OP is making these predictions for a long time, setting dates and failing consistently. It must be clear to all now what kind of energy inspires these posts, despite all the cute pics and saying Jesus, Jesus.

No problem. We were warned that wheat and tares would grow together. Everything is going to be adjusted in the end.

And my umbrella is ready for this night and for the next.
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OP is making these predictions for a long time, setting dates and failing consistently. It must be clear to all now what kind of energy inspires these posts, despite all the cute pics and saying Jesus, Jesus.
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judethe When have I ever set dates, why don't you go through all my Rapture threads and see if you can find even one. As for the "predictions" I am talking about what the bible says, so if you've got a beef then take it up with higher authority, not me.

2 Peter 3 3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved to fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


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Do YOU hope and pray always that Jesus Christ Himself counts YOU worthy to escape these things that will soon come upon all the earth?
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blinkerrose Yes I do.
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So this is your last Rapture thread then?
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So this is your last Rapture thread then?
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We will just have to wait and see.flute

“For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,” 1 Thessalonians 5:9 (KJV

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so when GOD sends us a messenger, Paul, you say don't believe it... you are a servant of satan and headed for hell.
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... he also CLEARLY states his earthly message is to the priesthood... you work for satan
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Really?

So everyone that heard Jesus' teachings were of the "priesthood"?

Pauline Bullshite. You FAIL to know scripture.

Jesus sent the Apostles to the entire WORLD - Matthew 28:18.

Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

Take a look at how Matthew 12 quotes Isaiah 42.

Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

Matthew 12

15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

16 And charged them that they should not make him known:

17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,

18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

19 He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.

20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.

21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.


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One final note about ONE Gospel.

Some of you think that there's 2 gospels.

1. Gospel of the kingdom
2. Gospel of grace

Consider this - and see just how SIMPLE things really are.

Q HOW do we gain entrance into the kingdom of God?
A By the GRACE of God. Faith, Belief, Repent & Baptise

Q What does God's GRACE give us?
A Entrance INTO the kingdom of God

Acts 1:7-8 Jesus speaking

7 And he said unto them,
It is not for you to know the times or the seasons,
which the Father hath put in his own power.

8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you:
and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem,

and in all Judaea, and in Samaria,

and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

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Really...

Romans 15:8 "Now I say, that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision, for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers."

Matthew 10:5 "These twelve did Jesus send forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the cities of the Samaritans enter ye not

Matthew 15:24 "But he answered, and said, I am not sent, but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. "

John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

You are lost and not part of the "body of Christ" or you would know these things... you serve satan...
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
It will happen when it happens the digital mark of the beast is coming out so we shall see





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