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the demiurge punishes those who commit suicide in his world

 
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When a ignorant human commits suicide, his soul is separated from his body and delivered to the demiurge, taking the Spirit with it, as the Spirit is tied to the soul. Next comes judgment, punishment and karma. This is what happens every time a man dies, and suicide is no exception. In the case of suicide, the punishment inflicted by the demiurge will be greater: a prisoner has tried to escape and has been trapped again. Double punishment. The prisoner who has committed suicide, has not escaped from anything and has liberated himself from nothing. Here he is, in the hands of the demiurge once again. For the common man, suicide is neither a way out nor liberation. On the contrary, it is a worsening of his situation.

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” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Being awake to the knowledge addressed in that article gives people a very insightful understanding of our reality and answers most of the great “mysteries of life”.

Having already pursued much study on this subject, I find the one question yet remains:

HOW DO WE ESCAPE THIS CYCLE OF BEING REPEATEDLY RECYCLED INTO THIS PRISON?

That is the ultimate question to be answered that I cannot find an answer to.

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Last Edited by Zovalex on 08/07/2020 06:22 AM
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Pinned for discussion on the question above.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Being awake to the knowledge addressed in that article gives people a very insightful understanding of our reality and answers most of the great “mysteries of life”.

Having already pursued much study on this subject, I find the one question yet remains:

HOW DO WE ESCAPE THIS CYCLE OF BEING REPEATEDLY RECYCLED INTO THIS PRISON?

That is the ultimate question to be answered that I cannot find an answer to.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


none escape without the mysteries
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


Being awake to the knowledge addressed in that article gives people a very insightful understanding of our reality and answers most of the great “mysteries of life”.

Having already pursued much study on this subject, I find the one question yet remains:

HOW DO WE ESCAPE THIS CYCLE OF BEING REPEATEDLY RECYCLED INTO THIS PRISON?

That is the ultimate question to be answered that I cannot find an answer to.

That’s easy. Don’t have kids.
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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That’s brilliant
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Excerpt from the same link:

” When a man begins to wake up and starts to see things as they really are, he fears he has gone mad. He realizes that everything he has been taught is lies, that he is surrounded by madmen and sleepwalkers and that he is stuck in a giant concentration camp inhabited by the insane. If this man does not quickly find other men who are awake like him, it is likely he will think about committing suicide in an effort to escape from this prison. That is why most men prefer to remain asleep. Most of them do not want to know the truth: that they are living in a huge mental institution invented and controlled by the Supreme Madman. Only a minority of very brave men will seek out this Special Knowledge capable of waking them up.”

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ha ha what a crock of shit

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bsflagbsflagbsflag Suicide is not "ignorant"...as a matter of fact, it is the "intellectual" thing to do. Who wants to live your final days senile or disabled in bed? Only a purblind fool !
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When a ignorant human commits suicide, his soul is separated from his body and delivered to the demiurge, taking the Spirit with it, as the Spirit is tied to the soul. Next comes judgment, punishment and karma. This is what happens every time a man dies, and suicide is no exception. In the case of suicide, the punishment inflicted by the demiurge will be greater: a prisoner has tried to escape and has been trapped again. Double punishment. The prisoner who has committed suicide, has not escaped from anything and has liberated himself from nothing. Here he is, in the hands of the demiurge once again. For the common man, suicide is neither a way out nor liberation. On the contrary, it is a worsening of his situation.

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Many have tried to commit suicide, gone to the light and returned. The story they tell is not of judgement or punishment but rather one of compassion and empathy.

No one is judged but rather they are helped to heal and given the knowledge to understand that what they endured was a "Life Test" to be overcome.

Many tell stories of a hospital type environment where they are allowed to take the time to recover from their ordeal with kind helpers.

There is also belief that if one commits suicide they will return in their next life to try to overcome the same challenges. In this way, it makes sense to endure and overcome the obstacles in this lifetime if you can.
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Pinned for discussion on the question above.

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Great! It's so strange to see that among political and covid threads.
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upon death souls will encounter three archons known as toll collectors

they will ask you who are you and where are you from?

you should reply i am a child of the true god and i am from the pre existent one

the archon will then ask what sort of child are you and what father do you belong to?

then reply i am from the pre existent god and child of the pre existent one

passwords given to james in the apocalypse of james gnostic texts
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James (the Just) : stoned to death in the year 62
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But in the case of a man who has fulfilled his Spirit, everything is different, since he is not a ignorant man anymore. He is a man who has escaped from the prison of the demiurge. The demiurge and his punishment cannot reach him now. The laws of karma do not exist for him now. He has transformed himself by his own free will, into something uncreated within the created world and he can do whatever he wants, including committing suicide. His impure body and soul have been deified by the Spirit and no longer belong to the demiurge. His body, soul and Spirit have been converted into only one thing: something indestructible, immortal and eternal. For this type of man, suicide is simply a way of moving from one point in the universe to another, or from one dimension to another.

This type of man is the one who is described in the christian myth. It is said that when they went to look for the body of Christ they could not find it, the tomb was empty. Of course, since the Spirit had taken the body and soul with It! After "death", the Spiritualized body and soul, transformed into one inseparable unit with the Spirit, leave along with It.

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The Lord said to him, "James, behold, I shall reveal to you your redemption. When you are seized, and you undergo these sufferings, a multitude will arm themselves against you that <they> may seize you. And in particular three of them will seize you - they who sit (there) as toll collectors. Not only do they demand toll, but they also take away souls by theft. When you come into their power, one of them who is their guard will say to you, 'Who are you or where are you from?' You are to say to him, 'I am a son, and I am from the Father.' He will say to you, 'What sort of son are you, and to what father do you belong?' You are to say to him, 'I am from the Pre-existent Father, and a son in the Pre-existent One.' When he says to you, [...], you are to say to him [...] in the [...] that I might [...]."

'[...] of alien things?' You are to say to him, 'They are not entirely alien, but they are from Achamoth, who is the female. And these she produced as she brought down the race from the Pre-existent One. So then they are not alien, but they are ours. They are indeed ours because she who is mistress of them is from the Pre-existent One. At the same time they are alien because the Pre-existent One did not have intercourse with her, when she produced them.' When he also says to you, 'Where will you go?', you are to say to him, 'To the place from which I have come, there shall I return.' And if you say these things, you will escape their attacks.

"But when you come to these three detainers who take away souls by theft in that place [...] these. You [...] a vessel [...] much more than [...] of the one whom you [...] for [...] her root. You too will be sober [...]. But I shall call upon the imperishable knowledge, which is Sophia who is in the Father (and) who is the mother of Achamoth. Achamoth had no father nor male consort, but she is female from a female. She produced you without a male, since she was alone (and) in ignorance as to what lives through her mother because she thought that she alone existed. But I shall cry out to her mother. And then they will fall into confusion (and) will blame their root and the race of their mother. But you will go up to what is yours [...] you will [...] the Pre-existent One."

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Gnostic baloney on rye.
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If someone tells you they know all the answers, RUN.

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Gnostic baloney on rye.
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actually gnostics are the true follower of jesus and every other religion is baloney on rye
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If someone tells you they know all the answers, RUN.

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they said the same thing to jesus
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Lol suicide religion
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I have a long day today and won’t be able to revisit this thread until late, so I will post this caveat up front for those not familiar with this subject:

Be advised there are two groups that will work hard to prevent you from studying more on this material. The first group are souled beings that have been brainwashed and fear-controlled with Abrahamic religious beliefs. The other group consists of the NON-souled biological entities that are Demiurge-created NPCs with sentience but whose primary purpose is to maintain the “farm” of us souled prisoners. The NPC puppets will be the loudest and most vociferous in threatening you with “destruction”, “hellfire”, blah blah blah, for the purpose of frightening you away from learning the horrid and awful truth of our reality and existence. These NPCs don’t realize they are merely Demiurge-consciousness creations, so they are sincere in their fear-mongering. The first group are simply reacting from a position of having been brainwashed. They’re not awake (and many will never wake up.... that is the intent of the Demiurge).

Both groups will punish the thread with 1-stars... all in a desperate (yet sincere) attempt to persuade you from going through these doors and opening your Mind to an awful Truth that can indeed give cause to making one commit suicide (think of Neo taking the red pill and his reaction. Our reality is a bit different than that, but a person’s reaction to learning the horrible Truth of our reality is exactly the same as he had).

Both groups will denounce, denigrate, ridicule, and otherwise persuade you from seeking to learn more on this subject. I encourage you to ignore their scare tactic Mind manipulation and pursue the study of this material (and SO much more.... the rabbit hole runs deep).

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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It's the families that get punished. I promise you that.
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Of the purifying mysteries.

I say unto you: For the sake of the race of men, because it is material, I have torn myself asunder and brought unto them all the mysteries of the Light, that I may purify them, for they are the refuse of the whole matter of their matter; else would no soul of the total race of men have been saved, and they would not be able to inherit the kingdom of the Light, if I had not brought unto them the purifying mysteries.

"For the emanations of the Light have no need of the mysteries, for they are purified; but it is the race of men which hath need of them, because they all are material refuse For this cause, therefore, have I said unto you aforetime: 'The healthy have no need. of the physician, but the sick,'--that is: Those of the Light have no need of the mysteries, for they are purified lights; but it is the race of men which hath need of them, for [they] are material refuse.

"For this cause, therefore, herald to the whole race of men, saying: Cease not to seek day and night, until ye find the purifying mysteries; and say unto the race of men: Renounce the whole world and the whole matter therein. For he who buyeth and selleth in the world and he who eateth and drinketh of its matter and who liveth in all its cares and in all its associations, amasseth other additional matters to the rest of his matter, because this whole world and all therein and all its associations are material refuse, and they will make enquiry of every one concerning his purity.



"For this cause, therefore, I have said unto you aforetime: Renounce the whole world and the whole matter therein, that ye may not amass other additional matter to the rest of your matter in you. For this cause, therefore, herald it to the whole race of men, saying: Renounce the whole world and all its associations. that ye may not amass additional matter to the rest of your matter in you; and say unto them: Cease not to seek day and night and remit not yourselves until ye find the purifying mysteries which will purify you and make you into a refined light, so that ye will go on high and inherit the light of my kingdom.

That all who are purified will be saved.

"Now, therefore, Andrew and all thy brethren thy co-disciples, because of your renunciations and all your sufferings which ye have endured in every region, and because of your changes in every region and of your being poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies and because of all your afflictions, and after all this ye have received the purifying mysteries and are become refined light exceedingly purified,--for this cause, therefore, ye will go on high and penetrate into all the regions of all the great emanations of the Light and be kings in the Light-kingdom for ever.

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Jesus pardoneth the ignorance of Andrew.

When then the Saviour said this, Andrew knew clearly, not only he but also all the disciples knew with precision that they should inherit the Light-kingdom. They all threw themselves down together at Jesus' feet, cried aloud, wept and besought the Saviour, saying: "Lord, forgive our brother the sin of unknowing."

The Saviour answered and said: "I forgive and will forgive; for this cause, therefore, hath the First Mystery sent me, that I may forgive every one his sins."

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In history anyone who was considered a gnostic was killed for knowing this knowledge.
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bsflagbsflagbsflag Suicide is not "ignorant"...as a matter of fact, it is the "intellectual" thing to do. Who wants to live your final days senile or disabled in bed? Only a purblind fool !
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It is a mental prison. There is nothing outside of you but you. Here is the lie.
You want to escape and win the game? Control your thoughts, take back the driver seat and then, stop playing.
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Everything is fake and everything is true here. Depends on your beliefs. The demiurge is a narcissist pervert 5yo child without power but the illusion. Why do you think he hides himself? Because he is weak and could be destroyed by a thought only.
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It's topics like this that galvanise my feelings about death.... None of us know, I'm not scared but I am curious. I will never be more afraid in death than I am of living.

If our intensions and thoughts are enough to condemn us they must be enough to save us.





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