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In the beginning there was barter. You fished, you traded fish for stuff. But what if you need a shirt and the clothing maker didn't like fish? You can easily see where that is going. Civilization needed a common item that all agree on for exchange of goods and service.

Of the elements known at the time, criteria needed to be met. Can't be a liquid or gas for obvious reasons. Can't be stone because if you work it to a measurable weight, the excess waste material is unusable. It had to be a metal. Not just any metal. It had to be rare, and it had to have an achievable melt temperature. Two elements fit the bill Gold and Silver. And at a 16 to 1 ratio of availability, they worked together perfectly for thousands of years.

Anyone who does not understand this concept and regurgitates the same crap about gold not being edible or not having any inherent value simply does not understand the historic need for a common trade item and the criteria that need to be met for it to function properly.

Art. 1 Sec. 10, US Constitution: "No State shall...make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts."

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In the beginning there was barter. You fished, you traded fish for stuff. But what if you need a shirt and the clothing maker didn't like fish? You can easily see where that is going. Civilization needed a common item that all agree on for exchange of goods and service.

Of the elements known at the time, criteria needed to be met. Can't be a liquid or gas for obvious reasons. Can't be stone because if you work it to a measurable weight, the excess waste material is unusable. It had to be a metal. Not just any metal. It had to be rare, and it had to have an achievable melt temperature. Two elements fit the bill Gold and Silver. And at a 16 to 1 ratio of availability, they worked together perfectly for thousands of years.

Anyone who does not understand this concept and regurgitates the same crap about gold not being edible or not having any inherent value simply does not understand the historic need for a common trade item and the criteria that need to be met for it to function properly.

Art. 1 Sec. 10, US Constitution: "No State shall...make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts."

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Gold is "money" and has value because the king/ government says it is and does.

Money is an invention of kings and civilization and it has not always been coins and gold, many chieftains and kings have used other resources as the base token of money. Shells, coffee, even pretty green paper, etc.

That is why the principle power of every government is to set the token of money and it's value to the population.

And that is actually the true meaning of "render unto caesar what is Caesar's." You can give Ceaser money because that is the only thing he ever invented and the only thing that is his.

I would also add in the end if civilization collapses and people are starving gold will be more trouble than it's worth. Gold and money is only valuable to the king/government and civilization; ie the creators of money.
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Sold junk silver for gold today. Ratio is 70. Will sell more silver when the gold:silver ratio is 40.
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In the beginning there was barter. You fished, you traded fish for stuff. But what if you need a shirt and the clothing maker didn't like fish? You can easily see where that is going. Civilization needed a common item that all agree on for exchange of goods and service.

Of the elements known at the time, criteria needed to be met. Can't be a liquid or gas for obvious reasons. Can't be stone because if you work it to a measurable weight, the excess waste material is unusable. It had to be a metal. Not just any metal. It had to be rare, and it had to have an achievable melt temperature. Two elements fit the bill Gold and Silver. And at a 16 to 1 ratio of availability, they worked together perfectly for thousands of years.

Anyone who does not understand this concept and regurgitates the same crap about gold not being edible or not having any inherent value simply does not understand the historic need for a common trade item and the criteria that need to be met for it to function properly.

Art. 1 Sec. 10, US Constitution: "No State shall...make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts."

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 Quoting: Leverlock


Gold is "money" and has value because the king/ government says it is and does.

Money is an invention of kings and civilization and it has not always been coins and gold, many chieftains and kings have used other resources as the base token of money. Shells, coffee, even pretty green paper, etc.

That is why the principle power of every government is to set the token of money and it's value to the population.

And that is actually the true meaning of "render unto caesar what is Caesar's." You can give Ceaser money because that is the only thing he ever invented and the only thing that is his.

I would also add in the end if civilization collapses and people are starving gold will be more trouble than it's worth. Gold and money is only valuable to the king/government and civilization; ie the creators of money.
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Dumbass statement.
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Give me a million dollars in land, cattle and other livestock and you can stick your million dollars of gold where the sun don’t shine. And ten years from now we can compare who has benefited more.
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Golddigger means what?
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Warren Buffett, the CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway, just invested 550 million dollars in a Canadian gold mining company. He has always been against gold, but his father Howard was a noted gold bug. Warren has finally aged enough to attain his father's wisdom. But far more important is his realization that the American economy is heading toward a cliff and he is slowly bracing himself and his company's investors for the impending crash. It would be wise for Americans to do the same. Not only invest in gold mining stocks, but buy gold and silver bullion coins and bars.
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Give me a million dollars in land, cattle and other livestock and you can stick your million dollars of gold where the sun don’t shine. And ten years from now we can compare who has benefited more.
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so, first someone has to "give" you....lol
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Give me a million dollars in land, cattle and other livestock and you can stick your million dollars of gold where the sun don’t shine. And ten years from now we can compare who has benefited more.
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so, first someone has to "give" you....lol
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It’s a hypothetical dumb ass. Would you rather sort of thing.
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You forget that GOD decided what is Money (Gold and Silver) and nothing else is really money, despite man's best efforts.
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get the fuck out of my life you fucign patethic shills. YOU COULD HAVE STOOD AGISNT ANY OF THSE POEIPLE. YOU HAD YEARS TO. STOP ACTING LIEK YOURE DONG ME A FUCGN FAVOUR WHILE Y UO STAND BACK AND LET THESE SICK PROUD LEMMING RTARDS ruin every fucgin second of my day they can just to imress some ment alyill billioare fuckup or two. STAND UP AGAINST THIS SICK FUCK IN CHARGE YOU TOTAL FUCING SELLOUT.
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Sold junk silver for gold today. Ratio is 70. Will sell more silver when the gold:silver ratio is 40.
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You will need that junk silver for daily transactions when the shit really hits the fan and the USD loses it's value completely.
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Re: THIS is why GOLD is "money" and has "value" -
Warren Buffett, the CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway, just invested 550 million dollars in a Canadian gold mining company. He has always been against gold, but his father Howard was a noted gold bug. Warren has finally aged enough to attain his father's wisdom. But far more important is his realization that the American economy is heading toward a cliff and he is slowly bracing himself and his company's investors for the impending crash. It would be wise for Americans to do the same. Not only invest in gold mining stocks, but buy gold and silver bullion coins and bars.
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Warren Buffett, the CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway, just invested 550 million dollars in a Canadian gold mining company. He has always been against gold, but his father Howard was a noted gold bug. Warren has finally aged enough to attain his father's wisdom. But far more important is his realization that the American economy is heading toward a cliff and he is slowly bracing himself and his company's investors for the impending crash. It would be wise for Americans to do the same. Not only invest in gold mining stocks, but buy gold and silver bullion coins and bars.
 Quoting: doomsdays doorstep 77437592


Buffett did not buy gold. He bought stock in a gold mining company because he knew fools like you dupes will be rushing into every gold related investment you can find including gold coins. When he sees the market following his feign he will sell for huge profits.
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get the fuck out of my life you fucign patethic shills. YOU COULD HAVE STOOD AGISNT ANY OF THSE POEIPLE. YOU HAD YEARS TO. STOP ACTING LIEK YOURE DONG ME A FUCGN FAVOUR WHILE Y UO STAND BACK AND LET THESE SICK PROUD LEMMING RTARDS ruin every fucgin second of my day they can just to imress some ment alyill billioare fuckup or two. STAND UP AGAINST THIS SICK FUCK IN CHARGE YOU TOTAL FUCING SELLOUT.
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Did you miss your meds today?
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get the fuck out of my life you fucign patethic shills. YOU COULD HAVE STOOD AGISNT ANY OF THSE POEIPLE. YOU HAD YEARS TO. STOP ACTING LIEK YOURE DONG ME A FUCGN FAVOUR WHILE Y UO STAND BACK AND LET THESE SICK PROUD LEMMING RTARDS ruin every fucgin second of my day they can just to imress some ment alyill billioare fuckup or two. STAND UP AGAINST THIS SICK FUCK IN CHARGE YOU TOTAL FUCING SELLOUT.
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Did you miss your meds today?
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die in a fucing fire retard. i have no interest in apearing intelligent or sane to the most insane, dubest fucign sleltou whore harrassing bully for hire lemmings shills on teh planet. i just want yuo all fjucing dead and im not joking.
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The real value of gold is its ability to not tarnish in the atmosphere... this is why any and every critical electrical connection is gold plated in all your devices. Critical meaning a failure of that connection is a catastrophic failure in the operation of your device. I am quite sure every spacecraft that has ever been flown in the entire universe... from long ago ages unknowable.. has contained electrical connections that were gold plated...

This is the true and real value of gold...
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Real money is a monetary note, nothing more or less.

Real money is when Joe Average makes a chair and writes a monetary note for it that can be traded around. Real money vanishes from circulation when used(traded in for receipt of the chair).

Gold/silver are not money but they are valuable commodities just like a chair.
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This!
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Arable land and stock worth way more than gold, if you are willing to work it. The land gives back over and over and over if you manage it well.
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Re: THIS is why GOLD is "money" and has "value" -
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In the beginning there was barter. You fished, you traded fish for stuff. But what if you need a shirt and the clothing maker didn't like fish? You can easily see where that is going. Civilization needed a common item that all agree on for exchange of goods and service.

Of the elements known at the time, criteria needed to be met. Can't be a liquid or gas for obvious reasons. Can't be stone because if you work it to a measurable weight, the excess waste material is unusable. It had to be a metal. Not just any metal. It had to be rare, and it had to have an achievable melt temperature. Two elements fit the bill Gold and Silver. And at a 16 to 1 ratio of availability, they worked together perfectly for thousands of years.

Anyone who does not understand this concept and regurgitates the same crap about gold not being edible or not having any inherent value simply does not understand the historic need for a common trade item and the criteria that need to be met for it to function properly.

Art. 1 Sec. 10, US Constitution: "No State shall...make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts."

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 Quoting: Leverlock


I used to follow Howard Ruff, but now realize gold is nothing special. It appreciates now and then like anything else, but nothing like Amazon, google, Tesla, Apple, etc.. Gold seems to have a cult following though.
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It's not even worth bothering with metals if you use dealers because of the parasitic markup and markdown when you sell it to them. It's almost a wash between that and simply using an ETF and paying the taxes.
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Warren Buffett, the CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway, just invested 550 million dollars in a Canadian gold mining company. He has always been against gold, but his father Howard was a noted gold bug. Warren has finally aged enough to attain his father's wisdom. But far more important is his realization that the American economy is heading toward a cliff and he is slowly bracing himself and his company's investors for the impending crash. It would be wise for Americans to do the same. Not only invest in gold mining stocks, but buy gold and silver bullion coins and bars.
 Quoting: doomsdays doorstep 77437592


It's a simple calculation for people like Buffet. If he invests a billion in the stock market he expects a high return, probably greater than 8%. Because that paper asset is appreciating faster than the price of gold, so you can sell that paper and buy gold if you want.

But once the paper assets don't appreciate, then you want your money in gold because it holds it's value much better than stocks, bonds or real estate.

And I mean silver as well, silver is probably a better play because it has so many industrial uses. Fedbugs laugh and say silver is a commodity because of industrial uses and I have to say silver is money (always has been money) AND it has many industrial uses.

People believed in this magic genie government that could keep a cap on the real price of silver to make manufacturing cheap so a certain group of people could profit immensely. But everything is changing, too much debt so it all has to be worked through could take decades. Gold and silver will hold their value.
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Warren Buffett, the CEO of Berkshire-Hathaway, just invested 550 million dollars in a Canadian gold mining company. He has always been against gold, but his father Howard was a noted gold bug. Warren has finally aged enough to attain his father's wisdom. But far more important is his realization that the American economy is heading toward a cliff and he is slowly bracing himself and his company's investors for the impending crash. It would be wise for Americans to do the same. Not only invest in gold mining stocks, but buy gold and silver bullion coins and bars.
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I find it curious that he sold 60% of his shares in JPMorgan
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All you gold haters are right.
And you should no longer be burdened by this heavy,
difficult to carry metal.

Just ship any you have to me.
Hit me up in the DMs.

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In the beginning there was barter. You fished, you traded fish for stuff. But what if you need a shirt and the clothing maker didn't like fish? You can easily see where that is going. Civilization needed a common item that all agree on for exchange of goods and service.

Of the elements known at the time, criteria needed to be met. Can't be a liquid or gas for obvious reasons. Can't be stone because if you work it to a measurable weight, the excess waste material is unusable. It had to be a metal. Not just any metal. It had to be rare, and it had to have an achievable melt temperature. Two elements fit the bill Gold and Silver. And at a 16 to 1 ratio of availability, they worked together perfectly for thousands of years.

Anyone who does not understand this concept and regurgitates the same crap about gold not being edible or not having any inherent value simply does not understand the historic need for a common trade item and the criteria that need to be met for it to function properly.

Art. 1 Sec. 10, US Constitution: "No State shall...make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts."

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This only works with civilized peoples.
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I bought a bitcoin it was very shiny and felt nice in my hands but I dropped it and got lost in electrical storm.

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