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One Still Voice User ID: 79434849 Canada 10/22/2020 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." It only takes one. |
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~Jazz~ Forum Administrator 10/22/2020 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good! Have you seen Bidens' ad about 'installing more muslims in his administration'? Those masks are the first step in instituting Sharia Law. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72608367 United States 10/22/2020 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72530568 Canada 10/22/2020 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71222946 United States 10/22/2020 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." That's not what the bible says... |
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One Still Voice User ID: 79434849 Canada 10/22/2020 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. You're wrong. Moses covered his face because the veil was not yet removed between God and his people, between the holy of holies and those outside that sacred space. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross paid the sin debt and allowed God's people to once again stand before him without a covering veil, as Adam did before the fall. In citing Moses, you are referring to the Old Testament, but Christians are under the blood and sacrifice of Jesus in the New Testament. There is no longer a covering veil between God and his people. "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." It only takes one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45323306 United States 10/22/2020 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." That's not what the bible says... ~~~~~~ What we have today applies! Beyond the conditioning Ritual into loss of identity & Enslavement, this is the precursor to the MARK! It is also an absolute LIE people are wearing across their faces. I would NEVER wear that idiot mask while worshiping!! Never! Deception is the Primary Tool of the “Father of Lies” & sadly, “Many Will Perish For Lack Of Knowledge!” We are surrounded by lies & liars (authorities)! Do the research & get Baptism of the Holy Spirit! |
One Still Voice User ID: 79434849 Canada 10/22/2020 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." That's not what the bible says... Then you're reading the wrong Bible, or applying the wrong part of the Bible. Christians stand before God with no covering on their faces, hiding nothing. The veil that symbolized the division between God and his people was torn apart with Jesus' sacrifice on the cross. It is done. We no longer need to veil ourselves when we stand before God as his people. Face coverings do not belong on those who pledge their allegiance to God. It only takes one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72530568 Canada 10/22/2020 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. You're wrong. Moses covered his face because the veil was not yet removed between God and his people, between the holy of holies and those outside that sacred space. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross paid the sin debt and allowed God's people to once again stand before him without a covering veil, as Adam did before the fall. In citing Moses, you are referring to the Old Testament, but Christians are under the blood and sacrifice of Jesus in the New Testament. There is no longer a covering veil between God and his people. "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." The tearing of the veil was symbolic of the ability for believers to approach GOD directly through prayer, instead of going to the Priest - it's more than that but for this discussion, it's about that. Not that we can gaze upon GOD directly. Even the seraphim cover their face when in the presence of GOD. And Jesus isn't GOD. GOD does not change. The O.T. is still relevant when it comes to GOD. Jesus didn't nullify the O.T., he fulfilled it. GOD is still GOD, His personna and qualities haven't changed. |
One Still Voice User ID: 79434849 Canada 10/22/2020 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." That's not what the bible says... ~~~~~~ What we have today applies! Beyond the conditioning Ritual into loss of identity & Enslavement, this is the precursor to the MARK! It is also an absolute LIE people are wearing across their faces. I would NEVER wear that idiot mask while worshiping!! Never! Deception is the Primary Tool of the “Father of Lies” & sadly, “Many Will Perish For Lack Of Knowledge!” We are surrounded by lies & liars (authorities)! Do the research & get Baptism of the Holy Spirit! You are correct, Brother Anon. We are surrounded by those who lie purposely and by those who lie because they are ignorant of the Truth. God is Truth. Those who claim to know God need to get to know him better, if they think wearing a state-mandated face mask while worshiping him is his will. You are to stand before God with your faces uplifted and uncovered, your conscience clear, and your heart joyful with his Spirit. These are the worshipers God seeks. It only takes one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56857642 United States 10/22/2020 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. You're wrong. Moses covered his face because the veil was not yet removed between God and his people, between the holy of holies and those outside that sacred space. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross paid the sin debt and allowed God's people to once again stand before him without a covering veil, as Adam did before the fall. In citing Moses, you are referring to the Old Testament, but Christians are under the blood and sacrifice of Jesus in the New Testament. There is no longer a covering veil between God and his people. "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." Jesus is our covering and cloak of righteousness. None may approach God except through Him. Jesus sits at Gods right hand. He is our intercessor. Jesus is our veil. |
One Still Voice User ID: 79434849 Canada 10/22/2020 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. You're wrong. Moses covered his face because the veil was not yet removed between God and his people, between the holy of holies and those outside that sacred space. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross paid the sin debt and allowed God's people to once again stand before him without a covering veil, as Adam did before the fall. In citing Moses, you are referring to the Old Testament, but Christians are under the blood and sacrifice of Jesus in the New Testament. There is no longer a covering veil between God and his people. "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." The tearing of the veil was symbolic of the ability for believers to approach GOD directly through prayer, instead of going to the Priest - it's more than that but for this discussion, it's about that. Not that we can gaze upon GOD directly. Even the seraphim cover their face when in the presence of GOD. And Jesus isn't GOD. GOD does not change. The O.T. is still relevant when it comes to GOD. Jesus didn't nullify the O.T., he fulfilled it. GOD is still GOD, His personna and qualities haven't changed. Yes, we can now approach God directly, thanks to Jesus' sacrifice. Directly, as in nothing coming between us and God, most especially a symbol of state-mandated fear covering our faces. You talk about the symbolism of the veil of the temple; what could be more symbolic than the state-mandated mask of fear, that frames the wearer as either someone that others should fear or as someone who is himself fearful? As followers of Jesus, we know that we are to fear God and God only, and that is especially true when we worship God, when we stand fully in his presence. Why would we voluntarily wear a symbol of fear and state-mandated oppression on our faces, when we are to fear God and God only? The veil of the temple was far more than symbolic, just as the mask of state-mandated fear is far more than symbolic. We are to come before God with our faces uncovered, hiding nothing. We can thank Jesus for that. If you want to cover your face, that is your choice, but it is the wrong one, and it is never a good idea to teach the wrong way to others. Stand before God with your face uplifted and uncovered, your conscience clear, and your heart joyful with God's Holy Spirit. No face masks required. It only takes one. |
One Still Voice User ID: 79434849 Canada 10/22/2020 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. You're wrong. Moses covered his face because the veil was not yet removed between God and his people, between the holy of holies and those outside that sacred space. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross paid the sin debt and allowed God's people to once again stand before him without a covering veil, as Adam did before the fall. In citing Moses, you are referring to the Old Testament, but Christians are under the blood and sacrifice of Jesus in the New Testament. There is no longer a covering veil between God and his people. "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." Jesus is our covering and cloak of righteousness. None may approach God except through Him. Jesus sits at Gods right hand. He is our intercessor. Jesus is our veil. We go to God in Jesus' name. Jesus, in John, told us that we can go to God directly in his name, meaning as his follower. We don't pray to Jesus and then he petitions God for us; we pray to God directly, just was we worship God directly. Read John 23-26. "Whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.... At that day, ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you, fothe Father himself loveth you.... Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive...." You are wrong to say that followers of Jesus have to go to Jesus to pray to God. Like Jesus, we can pray to him directly through God's Holy Spirit. This is how Jesus prayed, and this is how we pray, as his follower. When you relegate Christians (that is, genuine born-again Spirit-filled believers) to having to go through Jesus as an intermediary, you nullify Jesus' sacrifice. How is having to go through Jesus to get to God any different than having to go through a priest? We no longer have to go through Jesus, if we are genuinely his followers; we can stand directly before God and pray directly to God, like Jesus did, and like Jesus told us to do in John. It only takes one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56857642 United States 10/22/2020 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't wear a mask. I have not worn a mask since this whole shit show began, and I won't wear one now. Everyone else in the store had a mask on, but no one said anything to me about me not wearing one except the kid at the front door. He asked me if I would put a mask on, and I told him NO. I have exemptions, and I kept on walking. One of my exemption is on religious grounds. The other is for my personal choice on how to deal with my own health, which isn't up for debate, as I am a free individual. I am not obligated to take unsolicited medical advice or mandate from anyone. Both are upheld by US law and Constitutional affirmation. Right now we are at war and in all wars people die. Usually it is the soldiers on the battlefield, who sacrifice themselves so others can live free. In this war, it is the old, infirm and those with health complications that will die so we can remain free, rather than soldiers, even if unwilling. They need to take one for the team. No one wants to die, but freedom isn't free, it takes sacrifice on someones behalf. It is unfortunate, but it is the truth. People die in war, and no one is immune from becoming a casualty of it, be they willing to die so others can live free or not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15691936 United States 10/22/2020 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many articles about this. I just randomly picked one: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76676317 [link to www.theuncensoredreport.com] “The lawsuit calls both the federal government and Colorado leaders into account for their violations of the right to free exercise of religion, among other abuses of power, primarily resulting from Gov. Jared Polis’ COVID-19 related Executive Orders,” said one of the pastors’ attorneys Rebecca Messall. In your face John Roberts |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56857642 United States 10/22/2020 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. You're wrong. Moses covered his face because the veil was not yet removed between God and his people, between the holy of holies and those outside that sacred space. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross paid the sin debt and allowed God's people to once again stand before him without a covering veil, as Adam did before the fall. In citing Moses, you are referring to the Old Testament, but Christians are under the blood and sacrifice of Jesus in the New Testament. There is no longer a covering veil between God and his people. "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." Jesus is our covering and cloak of righteousness. None may approach God except through Him. Jesus sits at Gods right hand. He is our intercessor. Jesus is our veil. We go to God in Jesus' name. Jesus, in John, told us that we can go to God directly in his name, meaning as his follower. We don't pray to Jesus and then he petitions God for us; we pray to God directly, just was we worship God directly. Read John 23-26. "Whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.... At that day, ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you, fothe Father himself loveth you.... Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive...." You are wrong to say that followers of Jesus have to go to Jesus to pray to God. Like Jesus, we can pray to him directly through God's Holy Spirit. This is how Jesus prayed, and this is how we pray, as his follower. When you relegate Christians (that is, genuine born-again Spirit-filled believers) to having to go through Jesus as an intermediary, you nullify Jesus' sacrifice. How is having to go through Jesus to get to God any different than having to go through a priest? We no longer have to go through Jesus, if we are genuinely his followers; we can stand directly before God and pray directly to God, like Jesus did, and like Jesus told us to do in John. Yet, Jesus says, that no one can come to the Father except through Him (Jesus). So I am not wrong. It is what Jesus says Himself. Jesus is a Priest, not just a Priest, but High Priest, the only one that matters. He offered himself up to atone for our sin. No man can do what Jesus did. No other man can atone for our sin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77909820 Canada 10/22/2020 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." These people are giving this evil God the power to slaughter them by worshipping him if they did not worship Him, this stupid evil God would have no power over them whatsoever |
One Still Voice User ID: 79434849 Canada 10/22/2020 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Gee, my Bible says that Moses covered his face before GOD. It also says "No man can look upon GOD and live." If you are talking about the masks and muzzling your mouth when you worship - like Churches here in Canuckistan are told to do - that's different. You're wrong. Moses covered his face because the veil was not yet removed between God and his people, between the holy of holies and those outside that sacred space. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross paid the sin debt and allowed God's people to once again stand before him without a covering veil, as Adam did before the fall. In citing Moses, you are referring to the Old Testament, but Christians are under the blood and sacrifice of Jesus in the New Testament. There is no longer a covering veil between God and his people. "And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." The tearing of the veil was symbolic of the ability for believers to approach GOD directly through prayer, instead of going to the Priest - it's more than that but for this discussion, it's about that. Not that we can gaze upon GOD directly. Even the seraphim cover their face when in the presence of GOD. And Jesus isn't GOD. GOD does not change. The O.T. is still relevant when it comes to GOD. Jesus didn't nullify the O.T., he fulfilled it. GOD is still GOD, His personna and qualities haven't changed. In Matthew, Jesus says that the angels of little children always behold the face of God; no mention of a face covering: "Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 18:10 Yes, the Old Testament is still relevant, but the sin covering has been done away with. The promised kingdom has come. It is here and now. It came with Jesus. If we are genuine followers of Jesus, then we stand shoulder to shoulder with Jesus before God, in Jesus' name. No more covering is required. Our souls have been cleansed (if we are born again) thanks to Jesus' sacrifice, so we can speak with God the way Adam spoke with him before the fall, and the way Jesus always spoke with him. You can choose to cover your face, if you want to put yourself under the Old Testament state of guilt or modern-day mask mandates, but this is neither advisable nor required. Note that Jesus, after rising from the dead, very deliberately took off the "napkin" that covered his face in the tomb, folded it, and laid it aside as a clear sign to his followers that the job he had come to do was done. Do not unfold that napkin and put it back on your face. It only takes one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77909820 Canada 10/22/2020 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he is the son of holocaust survivors, so he understands and empathizes with the oppressed of course. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77909820 Canada 10/22/2020 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You NEVER cover your face before God. Quoting: One Still Voice Anyone who knows God knows that. If the state persecutes you through ordering you to cover your face before God, you ignore the order; if the persecution escalates to threats of imprisonment, you leave the jurisdiction and worship with your face uncovered elsewhere. God will deal appropriately with those who tried to force you to cover your face. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." These people are giving this evil God the power to slaughter them by worshipping him if they did not worship Him, this stupid evil God would have no power over them whatsoever they worship the race of the Attorney General and thus give him authority to persecute them, even take their lives. otherwise this puny rat faced weasel would be selling pencils on the corner |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78287957 United States 10/22/2020 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good! Quoting: ~Jazz~ Have you seen Bidens' ad about 'installing more muslims in his administration'? Those masks are the first step in instituting Sharia Law. Thread: To Recap: They Demand Police Defunding, And Want Their Own New "Law Enforcement" System Put In Place While We All Wear Masks. Sounds Like: Quoting: WGON WGON "Get that idiot off the air!" User ID: 78287957 United States 06/04/2020 05:18 AM ... They want some nightmarish form of Sharia Law or the like. :imright: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56857642 United States 10/22/2020 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 16 You did not choose me, but zI chose you and appointed you that you should go and abear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that bwhatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you. 17 These things I command you, cso that you will love one another. John 15 |
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