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God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.

 
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God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
Before I say this, I know alot of people don't believe in or understand the harpazo, rapture, snatching away, etc, that Paul taught. I was once the same, did not understand it. After an in depth study of the Catholic Church and how they kept the public from reading their own Bibles for hundrees of years and implemented all of their pagan ideas and things like indulgences and purgatory....they used Christianity as control and they spiritualized everything.

The split in the reformation, alot of Catholic ideas trickled down into all of the denominations. There really should be no denominations. A plain sense, contextual and rightly divided study of the the Bible reveals a clear and simple plan. Jesus came to the J-ws. He then sent Paul to the Gentiles. Paul was given the mystery of the Body of Christ. The Body of Christ will be taken out before the Tribulation. I know that is a misunderstood point. But again, look at the history. Paul taught it. Early church fathers taught it, Iraenus wrote about it. For those that hate it or think it is a new idea, think it is deception, etc, I implore you to study the above and see past the deception of the RCC.

Anyway. In 2010 I went through an intense period of study and prayer. For three months I had a feeling that we were entering the very end of the end times. Things at the time in the world were pretty crazy, though obviously compared to now, it was totally normal.

I prayed daily for three weeks, that if God could give me a sign, anything, to let me know where we were in the end and how close His return was. I had a vision one night. A hand drawing on a chalkboard did long equations. At the the bottom he wrote the answer. It said 5/21. I remember it as clearly now as I did a decade ago.

I woke up and was pretty shocked, but felt peace in my mind. Over the next few years, I began watching as May 2021 came and went yearly. It became a yearly thing.

Around 2017 or so I kind of stopped worrying about it and did not watch as closely. It crossed my mind, but I no longer really thought of it as imminent.

As the world has gone totally berserk over the last year or so, realization hit. It was not May 21...it was May 2021. The great reset is the beginning of the Tribulation. I studied this date and there is something I did not know whatsoever a decade ago. Is-ael became a nation in 1948. Jesus Christ said that the generation which saw that happen would not pass before He returns. A Biblical generation according to Psalm 90 is 80 years.

If you add 80 to 1948, you get 2028. If you take the 7 year Trib period from 2028, you get 2021. When I realized this, I was astonished.

Pentecost is in May 2021 this year. That is the day that the Holy Spirit was sent to dwell in man. MANY believe that Pentecost was the inception of the Body of Christ was Pentecost, and that it will not be fulfilled until the BIRTH of the Body of Christ at another Pentecost. Jesus was the Firstfruits, and the Body of Christ, the believers indwelt with the Holy Spirit on earth, are the First fruit harvest,Pentecost is the feast day of First Fruits.

I believe that I was given this vision a decade ago in order to warn non believers of this NOW. I am no date setter and do not know the day or hour. But this event WILL happen, and anyone not saved by Jesus Christ needs to be saved. Accept His sacrifice on the cross, place your faith in Jesus totally for salvation.

The Tribulation is not just suffering. It is not just hardship. It is 2/3's of humanity dying horribly. It is God's judgment on mankind, and it is the only way I-rael will finally come to understand that Jesus Christ WAS their Messiah.

Please. Mockers and scoffer and angry people will hate these words. Satan will attack it. But heed this warning, please. I pray this find someone who needs it.
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Impressive this one isn't even a bot. Just a nutt.
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
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That the Body of Christ goes through the Trib.

Iraenus was an early church father that knew the Disciple John. He taught the pre Trib Rapture plainly. He did not know Hollywood.
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
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There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
Op is absolutely correct. The Church will be taken before the Great Tribulation. There are examples all through the Bible. In fact the Tribulation will start 6 months after the Bride of Christ is taken.
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
rapture is literally happening as Jesus said it would.

two men will be in a field,
one will be taken and one will be left...


have you watched any recent sports games lately?
where are the fans?

with the economy shutting down,

Two women will be grinding with a hand mill;
one will be taken and the other left.
Matthew 24:41



problem is that all false prophets see past the subtleness and simplicity of prophetic scripture.

as i just pointed out, rapture has happened,
but in a more logical and rational way than petty seers,
have estimated.


have a look...
enough debating,
revelation is in activation...
time to become aware...
and time to prepare.

this world is the first of many..

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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
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There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!

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J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537070


There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Then Paul, Iraenus and the early church were wrong.

If the Rapture happens at the end of the Trib, then no one is left to go into the Millennium. Because all the saved would go up and then come right back with Jesus Christ. Then Jesus Christ would judge the world and all will be killed. That is factually impossible.

If it is Mid Tribulation, the antichrist would be revealed to the Body of Christ. We are told to look for Jesus and to keep looking up, not to look for the antichrist. We are also told that the restrainer has to be removed before the man of lawlessness is revealed, the antichrist. And, the body of christ is not mentioned once after Jesus speaks to the churches in Revelation. No instruction. None.

Hollywood HATES the Rapture, as well. The Left Behind series were roundly mocked as awful, and they were made by a Christian funded studio. Films like Rapturepalooza and The End of Everything with Seth Rogan, these films make fun of it and demean the idea. Why? Satan HATES it and has been quashing the truth of it for two millennia.

You are a smart person, I see your posts. I understand exactly why you believe what you do, I hold no ill will. But on this issue you are incorrect.
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
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There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


In your sig, Jesus is talking to the J-ws, not the Body of Christ. His ministry was to them. I won't call you a fool, though.
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You're a liar and full of bullshit, 1*
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I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537070


There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


In your sig, Jesus is talking to the J-ws, not the Body of Christ. His ministry was to them. I won't call you a fool, though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537070



Then read my next sig... Christians ARE the Israel of God.... IF ye be in Christ.
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537070


There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Then Paul, Iraenus and the early church were wrong.

If the Rapture happens at the end of the Trib, then no one is left to go into the Millennium. Because all the saved would go up and then come right back with Jesus Christ. Then Jesus Christ would judge the world and all will be killed. That is factually impossible.

If it is Mid Tribulation, the antichrist would be revealed to the Body of Christ. We are told to look for Jesus and to keep looking up, not to look for the antichrist. We are also told that the restrainer has to be removed before the man of lawlessness is revealed, the antichrist. And, the body of christ is not mentioned once after Jesus speaks to the churches in Revelation. No instruction. None.

Hollywood HATES the Rapture, as well. The Left Behind series were roundly mocked as awful, and they were made by a Christian funded studio. Films like Rapturepalooza and The End of Everything with Seth Rogan, these films make fun of it and demean the idea. Why? Satan HATES it and has been quashing the truth of it for two millennia.

You are a smart person, I see your posts. I understand exactly why you believe what you do, I hold no ill will. But on this issue you are incorrect.
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To my mind, and what I've learned, pre trib rapture doctrine is inherently flawed because it is a doctrine of division.

People put themselves over others, claiming they are "rapture ready" and the "bride of Christ" when no one knows that for sure.

I've been kicked out of churches for asking questions.

I just said "How do you know for sure"?

No one does, but everyone acts like Jesus will come take them away from all harm and not others.

Its a split and a cult within the American churches, field by the prosperity gospel and elitism within the church.

I just don't see as viable biblically or morally.

Just my opinions though.

I've said many times I'd rather stay anyway to help those left behind if it did happen.

Pre trib rapture doctrine seems to me escapism and the easy way out.

With God, no5 thing is easy.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

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There are soooo many false prophets! You however op are wonderful for doing what God commands that we do, warn others to repent because the time is short!

Its so rare on glp that we hear real Godly truths, well done my brother or sister in Christ! girl_smile_brown
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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537070


There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


Jesus Himself prayed that we should not be taken but protected.

Its my belief the church will go through the tribulation, but we will have protection.

Just my beliefs.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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Re: God told me the Rapture is in 5/21, ten years ago. Before you scoff, let me explain a few strange things.
"Jesus came for the J5ws," are you insane? He refused to go where they were because they were trying to kill Him. I suppose your crazy notion of Christianity holds that Jesus was derelict in His duty.

Coming back to realty, the Bible does state clearly that the descendants of Esua took over Judea and became the new "J5ws." And Jesus came for the descendants of Jacob. Not Esau.

You hear the craziest things on this forum.
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May 15?
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I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537070


There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


Jesus Himself prayed that we should not be taken but protected.

Its my belief the church will go through the tribulation, but we will have protection.

Just my beliefs.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~



And you're exactly right. That's what the verse says. Rapture folks don't understand that we've been grafted into the tree of Israel and thus saved like they were in the Exodus, which is given to us in the last days as an example, and so they need another event to save them... the rapture.

But ee are all one in Christ, bond and free, man and women, Chew and former gentile, and etc... all one in Israel through Christ our Lord.

Only the unbelieving Chews are left out of this Olive Tree which is Israel. Their branches having been broken off. But the path back is always open for them as they are still love by God.
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

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There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


In your sig, Jesus is talking to the J-ws, not the Body of Christ. His ministry was to them. I won't call you a fool, though.
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Then read my next sig... Christians ARE the Israel of God.... IF ye be in Christ.
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Op here.

Paul plainly teaches that God is not done with I-srael at all. There are no Gentiles or Is-aelites in the body of Christ, all in Christ are the Body.

But God has made promises to the nation of I-rael that He will fulfill because of His word. The Trib is for them. Paul teaches it, so either he was wrong, or right.

Replacement theology is another false teaching stemming from the RCC.

I know you from the site, I appreciate your faith. This issue is so murky because denominations ARE division. Preaches and certain groups have held on to RCC ideas.

Denominations are where all division come from. Read the Bible for its plain sense meaning, in context and rightly divided. The clarity is staggering, no preachers or spiritualism of the text needed at all.

All those who have the Holy Spirit will be raptured pre Tribulation. No quarrel with you, because zi understand why you believe what you believe. Because I used to believe it.

The important part is being saved.
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Good info OP. Thank you.
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There is a rapture event, its just unequivocally not pre tribulation.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!
 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


Jesus Himself prayed that we should not be taken but protected.

Its my belief the church will go through the tribulation, but we will have protection.

Just my beliefs.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~



And you're exactly right. That's what the verse says. Rapture folks don't understand that we've been grafted into the tree of Israel and thus saved like they were in the Exodus, which is given to us in the last days as an example, and so they need another event to save them... the rapture.

But ee are all one in Christ, bond and free, man and women, Chew and former gentile, and etc... all one in Israel through Christ our Lord.

Only the unbelieving Chews are left out of this Olive Tree which is Israel. Their branches having been broken off. But the path back is always open for them as they are still love by God.
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The Bible plainly teaches that unbelieving Israel will not come to a saving knowledge of Christ until the end of the Trib.

It also plainly teaches that the restrainer will be removed before the antichrist can be revealed. The Thessalonians had bad teachers coming behind Paul and teaching that the Rapture had happened already ,they were worried they had missed it. Paul taught them, no, don't worry, the snatching away cannot happen until the restrainer is removed. The Restrainer is the Body of Christ. It holds back the absolute evil that we see looming.

The Body of Christ is totally seperate from I-srael. We are grafted onto the vine, yes. After we are gone, Jacob's seven years of trouble begin.

It is all clear if you read it plainly and forget bad teaching.

To Newton.....ALL division is due to denominations. Think about that. And before denominations broke off from the RCC., Paul and Iraenus taught a pre trib rapture, and others.

The division is not the Rapture teaching. It is the denominational confusion.

RCC and Denominantions, tools of the devil.
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Do you or have you ever noticed that all these rapture folks ever do in their debate is: tell you to look up someone... read someone... etc.?

They just parrot other fools.

Read my first sig below. John quoting Jesus.

Debate that!
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In your sig, Jesus is talking to the J-ws, not the Body of Christ. His ministry was to them. I won't call you a fool, though.
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Then read my next sig... Christians ARE the Israel of God.... IF ye be in Christ.
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Op here.

Paul plainly teaches that God is not done with I-srael at all. There are no Gentiles or Is-aelites in the body of Christ, all in Christ are the Body.

But God has made promises to the nation of I-rael that He will fulfill because of His word. The Trib is for them. Paul teaches it, so either he was wrong, or right.

Replacement theology is another false teaching stemming from the RCC.

I know you from the site, I appreciate your faith. This issue is so murky because denominations ARE division. Preaches and certain groups have held on to RCC ideas.

Denominations are where all division come from. Read the Bible for its plain sense meaning, in context and rightly divided. The clarity is staggering, no preachers or spiritualism of the text needed at all.

All those who have the Holy Spirit will be raptured pre Tribulation. No quarrel with you, because zi understand why you believe what you believe. Because I used to believe it.

The important part is being saved.
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I'm only going to respond to one thing here, the lie that is replacement theory. In your ignorance, you don't even know what that means. Yes it is Catholic theosophy. The truth is: the church DID NOT REPLACE Israel. This is not what I'm saying! Take your blinders off, please.

The church, all those who believe and accept Christ as Lord and Savior, both chews and gents.. are now ONE in Christ.

We haven't replaced Israel, WE, all of us who believe, have become the New Israel... The Israel of God.

It's what Paul means when he says, IF ye are in Christ, THEN are you Abrahams seeds AND HEIRS according to the promise. This is the standard indentifier of chews, having Abraham as your father. Christians therefore are The Israel of God because of our faith and belief in Christ, all of us. Only the unbelievers are left behind.

Why do you dispensationalists try so hard to divide us by flesh? It's not about the flesh, it's about the spirit. So I suppose I could say we are the spiritual Israel of God. Not the fleshy, lost Israel of God.
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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Hey OP... here's another verse I bet your minister didn't tell you about.

Acts Chap 7 vs 38: "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness,(speaking of Moses)with the angel that spake to him in the mount sina......"

So... if the Hebrews, later Israelites, in the wilderness were called a church, (no caps for church ever in the bible) then it should stand to reason that if born again Israel today, a spiritually constituted body of chews and gentiles can be called the church in the New Testament... then the church can be called Israel in the old testament... as it was called by Luke in the book of Acts.

Incidentally, the word "church" in the bible, translated from the Greek, simply means a gathering or assembly for any purpose and only later has it come to mean a spiritual fellowship of believers. But it is not a proper noun, never has been and so is not capitalized in the bible anywhere.

Peace and goodwill to all!
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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There is no such thing as a pre trib rapture.

Its made up bullshit.

That's why hollywood pushes it, they want you to believe this nonsense.
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I promise you are wrong. I used to believe similar. The Tribulation is God's wrath. The Body of Christ is not meant for God's wrath. All of the wrath previously has been man's wrath, from early Rome killing Christian's, to the RCC inquisition, to the current killings of Christian's in the Middle East and around the world. You don't understand what the Trubulation is. It is God's wrath.

I won't sit here and argue it all day. Look up Ken Johnson on youtube and listen to him teach. You are blinded by denominationalism and RCC teaching.

Satan loves the idea that the Body of Christ
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A careful reading of the book of Revelation reveals that the bowl judgments alone, define 'Gods wrath' in the end times. Thus, we may be going through seals and trumpets before He snatches us away....
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I pray op's vision is correct and that I and my loved ones are a part of it. I am sick and tired of this utterly decadent, unrepentent world. Come quickly. Lord.

And if there is no rapture or it is mid-trib, I pray I will have died a peaceful, natural death before tribulations begins.

I am tired.

PS. What is the point of sealing the 144,000 if the body of Christ is still here on Earth?
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Hey OP... here's another verse I bet your minister didn't tell you about.

Acts Chap 7 vs 38: "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness,(speaking of Moses)with the angel that spake to him in the mount sina......"

So... if the Hebrews, later Israelites, in the wilderness were called a church, (no caps for church ever in the bible) then it should stand to reason that if born again Israel today, a spiritually constituted body of chews and gentiles can be called the church in the New Testament... then the church can be called Israel in the old testament... as it was called by Luke in the book of Acts.

Incidentally, the word "church" in the bible, translated from the Greek, simply means a gathering or assembly for any purpose and only later has it come to mean a spiritual fellowship of believers. But it is not a proper noun, never has been and so is not capitalized in the bible anywhere.

Peace and goodwill to all!
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I'd bet you are a dispensationalist. Unless you are following the Mosaic law, which was never given to the Gentiles at all.

Paul speaks plainly of saved by grace through faith. Yes, all who accept Christ are in the body...Is-raelite or Gentile. But the Body of Christ is the mystery revealed to Paul.

You don't understand what the Tribulation is apparently. It not oppression or wrath of man. It is God's wrath. It is billions dying. The body of Christ is not meant for GOD'S wrath. People that want to go through the Trib in order for sanctification don't understand that once you are saved, God see Jesus Christ when He sees that person. We are placed in Christ. Under your "I am willing to go throught the Tribulation" mindset, you are telling God that He does not see Christ when He sees you, that you are not worthy, and that in essence, Christ's sacrifice was not enough, and that you are helping Him out.

If you are truly saved, God sees no blemish in you. None. He sees His son, Jesus Christ. And His crucifixion was the end of sin for believers. We sin in the flesh but are impugned with Christ's righteousness. This is meat, this not milk.

The Bible clearly says, believers are not meant for God's wrath. Paul clearly says, the Restrainer is removed before the man of lawlwssness comes forward and starts the Tribulation by confirming and strengthening the peace treaty.

You have to ignore all of this, and not understand what being saved even means, to get to, again, a false Catholic view of works based salvation, where you are doing things for God, and where you are wishing His wrath on His own son and His body. Which He says will not happen.

It is simply a lot of bad Catholic teaching mixed with some Biblic truth.

I agree. Peace and good will. And if you are saved, you will be taken out before the Trib. And I am pretty.sure at that point you will understand why.

Peace to you as well.
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We are so fking close to 2billions deaths ya
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We are so fking close to 2billions deaths ya
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The Tribulation hasn't started yet. Not sure of your point.





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