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Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations

 
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Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
This thread got me thinking:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

By OP predicting that 1 poster would finally make a correct prediction, it setup some parameters for his statement to be true that I find interesting.

1) If one poster makes a correct prediction, OP has correctly predicted that and there is now incorrect because 2 posters would have made correct predictions.

2) The only way that OP could be correct is if he is the only poster to ever make a correct prediction by saying 1 poster would finally make a correct prediction.

I find that to be very interesting in terms of logic and reasoning.

What are some other seemingly simple statements that unlock layers of meaning and interpretations?
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
Well looks like the post I linked was removed but you don't really need to see it to get my point.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
brain trust
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
brain trust
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Explain
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
brain trust
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Explain
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that's what you guys all are here.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
brain trust
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Explain
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that's what you guys all are here.
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OK thanks for your input.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
brain trust
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Explain
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that's what you guys all are here.
 Quoting: StonedImmaculate


OK thanks for your input.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
brain trust
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Explain
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that's what you guys all are here.
 Quoting: StonedImmaculate


OK thanks for your input.
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glad I could help.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
...


Explain
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that's what you guys all are here.
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OK thanks for your input.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80244443


glad I could help.
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Of course you are.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
"I'll be back" - Arnold

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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
This thread got me thinking:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

By OP predicting that 1 poster would finally make a correct prediction, it setup some parameters for his statement to be true that I find interesting.

1) If one poster makes a correct prediction, OP has correctly predicted that and there is now incorrect because 2 posters would have made correct predictions.

2) The only way that OP could be correct is if he is the only poster to ever make a correct prediction by saying 1 poster would finally make a correct prediction.

I find that to be very interesting in terms of logic and reasoning.

What are some other seemingly simple statements that unlock layers of meaning and interpretations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80244443


this is more a paradox than question of layers of meanings and interpretations.

It's a bit like the Liar's Paradox

Not long a go a little girl invented a new paradox


The Pinocchio paradox arises when Pinocchio says "My nose grows now" and is a version of the liar paradox.[1] The liar paradox is defined in philosophy and logic as the statement "This sentence is false." Any attempts to assign a classical binary truth value to this statement lead to a contradiction, or paradox. This occurs because if the statement "This sentence is false" is true, then it is false; this would mean that it is technically true, but also that it is false, and so on without end. Although the Pinocchio paradox belongs to the liar paradox tradition, it is a special case because it has no semantic predicates, as for example "My sentence is false" does


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glad I could help.
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Of course you are.
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superman
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
This thread got me thinking:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

By OP predicting that 1 poster would finally make a correct prediction, it setup some parameters for his statement to be true that I find interesting.

1) If one poster makes a correct prediction, OP has correctly predicted that and there is now incorrect because 2 posters would have made correct predictions.

2) The only way that OP could be correct is if he is the only poster to ever make a correct prediction by saying 1 poster would finally make a correct prediction.

I find that to be very interesting in terms of logic and reasoning.

What are some other seemingly simple statements that unlock layers of meaning and interpretations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80244443


this is more a paradox than question of layers of meanings and interpretations.

It's a bit like the Liar's Paradox

Not long a go a little girl invented a new paradox


The Pinocchio paradox arises when Pinocchio says "My nose grows now" and is a version of the liar paradox.[1] The liar paradox is defined in philosophy and logic as the statement "This sentence is false." Any attempts to assign a classical binary truth value to this statement lead to a contradiction, or paradox. This occurs because if the statement "This sentence is false" is true, then it is false; this would mean that it is technically true, but also that it is false, and so on without end. Although the Pinocchio paradox belongs to the liar paradox tradition, it is a special case because it has no semantic predicates, as for example "My sentence is false" does


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Ya I was trying to think of a correct term for it. However, I think a paradox only accounts for a part of what I am talking about. If only #1 on my list existed then I would believe it is a paradox. However, since #2 does exist, it no longer really is a paradox because there is a scenario in which his statement could be true. You just have to dig a little deeper to get to that truth whereas the surface level thought of someone else having the correct prediction being OPs prediction simply could never be true by logical deduction.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
thinking about it:

I predict that there will never be true predictions at GLP

is a genuine liar's paradox ...
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
thinking about it:

I predict that there will never be true predictions at GLP

is a genuine liar's paradox ...
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or is it? I don't know
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
thinking about it:

I predict that there will never be true predictions at GLP

is a genuine liar's paradox ...
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That is a paradox. However, that is not what I presented. I said that the OP claimed there would be 1 correct prediction.

On surface level, you would think he is speaking of another poster. However, logically, that could never be true because if someone else was correct then OP would be correct so there would be 2 correct predictions.

On closer inspection, OP could be correct only if his post was self-referential. If no one ever made a correct prediction, then OP would be correct because his prediction of only 1 person ever having a correct prediction would be correct!

To me, that goes beyond paradox.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
who is to say what the truth is?

and if I disagree with you?

can one tell the truth and lie at the same time?
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
who is to say what the truth is?

and if I disagree with you?

can one tell the truth and lie at the same time?
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Just quickly thinking about it... would the statement:

"The truth is a lie"

meet those parameters? Lets think about it more.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
it has bigly to do with context, and hyper variable arrangements with the environment mentale / physicale

but if you could isolate pure truth
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
then again you could argue that it's all truth, and there is no such thing as a lie...
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if I told you to go to hell
would you tell I cursed you

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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
Is this the same statement?

1. I predict there will be 1 correct prediction on GLP

or

2. I predict that the only correct prediction is that there will never be a correct prediction on GLP other than this prediction of no other correct predictions ever happening on GLP.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
shallow statements of this kind maketh me dizzy

stonedstonedstonedstonedstonedstonedstoned
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
shallow statements of this kind maketh me dizzy

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You're still working on if the truth is a lie.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
If the truth is found...

To be lies...
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
shallow statements of this kind maketh me dizzy

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You're still working on if the truth is a lie.
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I have to go to work soon, but I'll have plenty of time to think about it.

(I've c0nsiderd it before)
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
To be or not to be... that is the question.
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Re: Seemingly shallow statements that have multiple deeper meanings and/or interpretations
shallow statements of this kind maketh me dizzy

stonedstonedstonedstonedstonedstonedstoned
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You're still working on if the truth is a lie.
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I have to go to work soon, but I'll have plenty of time to think about it.

(I've c0nsiderd it before)
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I'm still trying to figure out a way to make the truth is a lie into a true statement.
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To be or not to be... that is the question.
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future tense of course?

bc to ask is to already be?

can one ever actually 'un-be'?





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