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Boiling Frog User ID: 80403301 United States 09/10/2021 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm open minded and don't really care if you believe in the nonsense most new agers do. Live and let live, you know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067071 It does bother me, though, that even when they refuse to acknowledge that something's well-understood by the modern materials science. When I last met them, we had a discussion about materials since I'm a materials physicists by profession. They brought up copper-gold alloys of the "old Atlantis" as something that the modern science hasn't been able to make or understand. Wrong on both accounts. Furthermore, they attributed properties (e.g. superconductivity and super toughness) to copper-gold alloys that clearly aren't true. They stuck to the old writings instead of modern science. Why is it that even in the face of empirical evidence, the old writings must be true and science must be wrong? We humans have an innate problem with ignoring facts when what we BELIEVE to be true is challenged or proven wrong by facts. I believe it is one of our worst traits and it has kept us from advancing as a species. Imagine a world where people accepted facts counter to their beliefs and learned together for the greater good while expanding their own knowledge. Last Edited by Boiling Frog on 09/10/2021 06:11 AM LET'S GO BRANDON!!! Ego imperium repraesentabo nope nos repraesentat! My location says Canada sometimes, even though I'm in America. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80067071 Finland 09/10/2021 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm open minded and don't really care if you believe in the nonsense most new agers do. Live and let live, you know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067071 It does bother me, though, that even when they refuse to acknowledge that something's well-understood by the modern materials science. When I last met them, we had a discussion about materials since I'm a materials physicists by profession. They brought up copper-gold alloys of the "old Atlantis" as something that the modern science hasn't been able to make or understand. Wrong on both accounts. Furthermore, they attributed properties (e.g. superconductivity and super toughness) to copper-gold alloys that clearly aren't true. They stuck to the old writings instead of modern science. Why is it that even in the face of empirical evidence, the old writings must be true and science must be wrong? We humans have an innate problem with ignoring facts when what we BELIEVE to be true is challenged/ proven wrong by facts. I believe it is one of our worst traits and it has kept us from advancing as a species. Imagine a world where people accepted facts counter to their beliefs and learned together for the greater good while expanding their own knowledge. That's exactly why I became a professional scientist. The scientific community is my safe harbor away from the mundane arguments and petty fights. I've worked side by side with Russian, Iranian and Pakistani scientists. We don't give shit about religion or politics. So, you don't eat pork, have to have a prayer break, or your grandfather was marched in to kill my forefathers in 1940s? Live and let live. Now it's just the pursuit of knowledge. Your idea gets proven wrong by an experiment? It's more a cause for celebration than shame/disappointment. An experimental result destroys a well-established theory? What could be more exciting?! |
Glaxnor User ID: 80853652 China 09/10/2021 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm open minded and don't really care if you believe in the nonsense most new agers do. Live and let live, you know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067071 It does bother me, though, that even when they refuse to acknowledge that something's well-understood by the modern materials science. When I last met them, we had a discussion about materials since I'm a materials physicists by profession. They brought up copper-gold alloys of the "old Atlantis" as something that the modern science hasn't been able to make or understand. Wrong on both accounts. Furthermore, they attributed properties (e.g. superconductivity and super toughness) to copper-gold alloys that clearly aren't true. They stuck to the old writings instead of modern science. Why is it that even in the face of empirical evidence, the old writings must be true and science must be wrong? We humans have an innate problem with ignoring facts when what we BELIEVE to be true is challenged or proven wrong by facts. I believe it is one of our worst traits and it has kept us from advancing as a species. Imagine a world where people accepted facts counter to their beliefs and learned together for the greater good while expanding their own knowledge. It will exist in the future. Assuming the pole shift doesn't happen in the next couple decades. We will pull through this into a better future. Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
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Glaxnor User ID: 80853652 China 09/10/2021 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm open minded and don't really care if you believe in the nonsense most new agers do. Live and let live, you know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067071 It does bother me, though, that even when they refuse to acknowledge that something's well-understood by the modern materials science. When I last met them, we had a discussion about materials since I'm a materials physicists by profession. They brought up copper-gold alloys of the "old Atlantis" as something that the modern science hasn't been able to make or understand. Wrong on both accounts. Furthermore, they attributed properties (e.g. superconductivity and super toughness) to copper-gold alloys that clearly aren't true. They stuck to the old writings instead of modern science. Why is it that even in the face of empirical evidence, the old writings must be true and science must be wrong? We humans have an innate problem with ignoring facts when what we BELIEVE to be true is challenged/ proven wrong by facts. I believe it is one of our worst traits and it has kept us from advancing as a species. Imagine a world where people accepted facts counter to their beliefs and learned together for the greater good while expanding their own knowledge. That's exactly why I became a professional scientist. The scientific community is my safe harbor away from the mundane arguments and petty fights. I've worked side by side with Russian, Iranian and Pakistani scientists. We don't give shit about religion or politics. So, you don't eat pork, have to have a prayer break, or your grandfather was marched in to kill my forefathers in 1940s? Live and let live. Now it's just the pursuit of knowledge. Your idea gets proven wrong by an experiment? It's more a cause for celebration than shame/disappointment. An experimental result destroys a well-established theory? What could be more exciting?! Chaos theory is wrong. Have fun! I love being wrong myself. One of the best sensations is when you realize something you assumed isn't there and there is a limitless sea of possibilities. Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
Glaxnor User ID: 80853652 China 09/10/2021 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science they think copper mixed with gold would be super tough? wouldn't it be soft like copper or soft like gold? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80812566 maybe if they mixed copper with tin they might get some hardness? [link to www.911metallurgist.com (secure)] Better at explaining it then me. Check the triangle chart for a clearer picture of the metallurgical mixes. Edit in Quote: "Since no change of volume occurs when these alloys are formed, their densities may be calculated from those of gold and copper." Last Edited by Glaxnor on 09/10/2021 06:30 AM Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78383380 United States 09/10/2021 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm glad you are here. I have a question. What can cause cheap gold to burn/become unbearably hot to the skin, ring, earrings, necklace, piercings, anklet, all at once? What scientific method could be used to do that...from a distance? I placed a piece (one earring)on an object on my night table, just as a last confused curious before sleeping. That item was scorched in the morning, literally blackened. Ever heard of such a thing? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77221081 United States 09/10/2021 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm open minded and don't really care if you believe in the nonsense most new agers do. Live and let live, you know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067071 It does bother me, though, that even when they refuse to acknowledge that something's well-understood by the modern materials science. When I last met them, we had a discussion about materials since I'm a materials physicists by profession. They brought up copper-gold alloys of the "old Atlantis" as something that the modern science hasn't been able to make or understand. Wrong on both accounts. Furthermore, they attributed properties (e.g. superconductivity and super toughness) to copper-gold alloys that clearly aren't true. They stuck to the old writings instead of modern science. Why is it that even in the face of empirical evidence, the old writings must be true and science must be wrong? We humans have an innate problem with ignoring facts when what we BELIEVE to be true is challenged or proven wrong by facts. I believe it is one of our worst traits and it has kept us from advancing as a species. Imagine a world where people accepted facts counter to their beliefs and learned together for the greater good while expanding their own knowledge. Anti vaxers, looking at you |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80067071 Finland 09/10/2021 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm glad you are here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78383380 I have a question. What can cause cheap gold to burn/become unbearably hot to the skin, ring, earrings, necklace, piercings, anklet, all at once? What scientific method could be used to do that...from a distance? I placed a piece (one earring)on an object on my night table, just as a last confused curious before sleeping. That item was scorched in the morning, literally blackened. Ever heard of such a thing? Gold's excellent conductor and suspect to heating by electromagnetic induction. Do you have stray variable magnetic fields around you? Are you sure it's high temperature and not just a subjective feeling that could be caused by an allergic reaction due to impurities in the cheap gold (e.g. nickel)? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80521335 Germany 09/10/2021 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm open minded and don't really care if you believe in the nonsense most new agers do. Live and let live, you know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067071 It does bother me, though, that even when they refuse to acknowledge that something's well-understood by the modern materials science. When I last met them, we had a discussion about materials since I'm a materials physicists by profession. They brought up copper-gold alloys of the "old Atlantis" as something that the modern science hasn't been able to make or understand. Wrong on both accounts. Furthermore, they attributed properties (e.g. superconductivity and super toughness) to copper-gold alloys that clearly aren't true. They stuck to the old writings instead of modern science. Why is it that even in the face of empirical evidence, the old writings must be true and science must be wrong? We humans have an innate problem with ignoring facts when what we BELIEVE to be true is challenged or proven wrong by facts. I believe it is one of our worst traits and it has kept us from advancing as a species. Imagine a world where people accepted facts counter to their beliefs and learned together for the greater good while expanding their own knowledge. Anti vaxers, looking at you it isn't a vaccine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78383380 United States 09/10/2021 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science they think copper mixed with gold would be super tough? wouldn't it be soft like copper or soft like gold? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80812566 maybe if they mixed copper with tin they might get some hardness? [link to www.911metallurgist.com (secure)] Better at explaining it then me. Check the triangle chart for a clearer picture of the metallurgical mixes. Edit in Quote: "Since no change of volume occurs when these alloys are formed, their densities may be calculated from those of gold and copper." african gold is like this. It turns a lovely pinish colour when in the ocean. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78383380 United States 09/10/2021 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm glad you are here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78383380 I have a question. What can cause cheap gold to burn/become unbearably hot to the skin, ring, earrings, necklace, piercings, anklet, all at once? What scientific method could be used to do that...from a distance? I placed a piece (one earring)on an object on my night table, just as a last confused curious before sleeping. That item was scorched in the morning, literally blackened. Ever heard of such a thing? Gold's excellent conductor and suspect to heating by electromagnetic induction. Do you have stray variable magnetic fields around you? Are you sure it's high temperature and not just a subjective feeling that could be caused by an allergic reaction due to impurities in the cheap gold (e.g. nickel)? It was the same gold I had worn for years. Years. The item I placed the earring on was seriously charred. Even smelled charred. "Do you have stray variable magnetic fields around you?" what do you mean? Like what? |
Glaxnor User ID: 80853652 China 09/10/2021 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm glad you are here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78383380 I have a question. What can cause cheap gold to burn/become unbearably hot to the skin, ring, earrings, necklace, piercings, anklet, all at once? What scientific method could be used to do that...from a distance? I placed a piece (one earring)on an object on my night table, just as a last confused curious before sleeping. That item was scorched in the morning, literally blackened. Ever heard of such a thing? Gold's excellent conductor and suspect to heating by electromagnetic induction. Do you have stray variable magnetic fields around you? Are you sure it's high temperature and not just a subjective feeling that could be caused by an allergic reaction due to impurities in the cheap gold (e.g. nickel)? It was the same gold I had worn for years. Years. The item I placed the earring on was seriously charred. Even smelled charred. "Do you have stray variable magnetic fields around you?" what do you mean? Like what? Anything Super HIGH Voltage. Like those big power lines they have warning signs around. TV or Radio Antenna maybe could be a culprit. But honestly it would have to be extremely close. Empty Men offer Empty Words and Empty Hearts. |
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Boiling Frog User ID: 80403301 United States 09/10/2021 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: My witchy new age relatives refuse to accept that gold-copper alloy is well-known to modern science I'm open minded and don't really care if you believe in the nonsense most new agers do. Live and let live, you know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067071 It does bother me, though, that even when they refuse to acknowledge that something's well-understood by the modern materials science. When I last met them, we had a discussion about materials since I'm a materials physicists by profession. They brought up copper-gold alloys of the "old Atlantis" as something that the modern science hasn't been able to make or understand. Wrong on both accounts. Furthermore, they attributed properties (e.g. superconductivity and super toughness) to copper-gold alloys that clearly aren't true. They stuck to the old writings instead of modern science. Why is it that even in the face of empirical evidence, the old writings must be true and science must be wrong? We humans have an innate problem with ignoring facts when what we BELIEVE to be true is challenged/ proven wrong by facts. I believe it is one of our worst traits and it has kept us from advancing as a species. Imagine a world where people accepted facts counter to their beliefs and learned together for the greater good while expanding their own knowledge. That's exactly why I became a professional scientist. The scientific community is my safe harbor away from the mundane arguments and petty fights. I've worked side by side with Russian, Iranian and Pakistani scientists. We don't give shit about religion or politics. So, you don't eat pork, have to have a prayer break, or your grandfather was marched in to kill my forefathers in 1940s? Live and let live. Now it's just the pursuit of knowledge. Your idea gets proven wrong by an experiment? It's more a cause for celebration than shame/disappointment. An experimental result destroys a well-established theory? What could be more exciting?! It's why I chose to be in a very specialized IT field. Same thing applies. 0 or 1, no gray, it is or it isn't and everyone is happy when a problem is solved. I never have a boring day, there is always a new issue to solve. LET'S GO BRANDON!!! Ego imperium repraesentabo nope nos repraesentat! My location says Canada sometimes, even though I'm in America. |
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