Need your help. I'm about to write letter to employer for med and religious exemption. | |
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FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 79203347 United States 11/05/2021 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think they can legally make you disclose your vax status or any medical information. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81084057 Legally they can't. Doesn't seem to matter though. We'll be on unpaid leave - not getting earned PTO and no unemployment- if they don't recognize our exemption reasons as valid. |
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Ariel_144 User ID: 81013697 United States 11/05/2021 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From a previous post I read today. Hope it helps. How to REFUSE The JAB AND KEEP Your JOB!!!!!!!! To begin, a simple fact - when seeking / discussing / considering any legal advice... CYA... as in C Your Attorney! With that said, I have researched the topic of employer mandated vaccines thoroughly, and have arrived at what I believe is not only THE BEST OUT, but THE ONLY OUT While US Law allows the various states a lot of autonomy with their specific state level employment laws, there are special federal statutes that encompass ALL employers in the US, regardless of state of incorporation, principle place of business etc. The ones we NEED BE MOST aware of relate to statutes overseen by the EEOC. In the most basic summary these laws specfically prohibit ANY and ALL discrimination based on several protected classes including RELIGION. These laws trump "right to work state laws" or "at will employment" laws. The reason employers can and will be firing people who do not comply is because those employees refusing are doing it IN THE WRONG WAY! Now, can an employer still fire you after sending this letter? Sure? Will they look for reasons to fire you after you send this that may be unrelated to your vaccine status (such as nitpicking work, or makin up conduct violations)? Sure. BUT They will KNOW that this letter exists and ANY employment lawyer is going to love you. These are the kinds of cases that have a chance and employers know it. Peace and blessings. Letter below: ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** <DATE> <Your Legal Name> <Address> <Contact Info> Dear <Company Name>, I am writing you to make you aware that I hold a specific religious belief that prevents me from taking a Covid Vaccine. Per United States Federal Labor and Employment Law, my religious beliefs cannot be used as grounds for any termination / retaliation / discrimination. Additionally, I am under no obligation to be specific with you of these beliefs, to enumerate them, or be asked or required to defend them. Therefore, please place this letter in my appropriate HR file as a substitute for any such "proof of vaccine" or "certificate of vaccine" that you may need. Thank you. <Signature> -<Your Name> |
Little Lost User ID: 80469772 United Kingdom 11/05/2021 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The argument is to based around why you feel religion exempts you. I can only comment from a christian perspective. First argument to be made is the notion for being in end times. You can see many in this forum concluding this and there are a great many pastors out there also stating this. I'll come back to this. First you may be challenged on your religious activities, what church do you goto? Personally I do not attend any church and the reason behind that is faith in the message being presented. Not every church are the same, the bible warns in the last days that Gods people are destroyed through lack of knowledge: 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea. This raises the concern over who has correct knowledge (which will vary from pastor to pastor) and what times we are living in. In light of that, i have only found online sermons from pastors that I trust. I have looked locally and havent found anyone who speaks to me like the following church representatives: - Evangelist Anita Fuentes ( [link to youtube.com (secure)] - Pastor Charles Lawson ( [link to youtube.com (secure)] I watch their sermons frequently and they stream on youtube, they do believe we are on end times so instead of going to church, I listen online as these people speak the message of God to me. So that's your church question sorted. Why not take the medication? In revelation it is warned: 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Revelation Here God talks about having the spirit of God leave you through an act of sorcery carried out by the great merchants of the sea. From an article: “Pharmakeia” is a form of the Greek root word from which we get our English words: Pharmacy, Pharmacist, and Pharmaceutical. Now let’s look at the word “sorcery” in Greek. Here’s what we find: Redirected from Strong’s Concordance 5331: “PHARMAKEIA”: THE USE OF MEDICINE, DRUGS, OR SPELLS DEFINITION: MAGIC, SORCERY, ENCHANTMENT [link to safeguardyoursoul.com (secure)] So where are we? we've discussed a church, the period of time we believe it be (revelation) and a warning about a Pharmaceutical product that will take away the spirit of God from us. How do we know this is what the bible warns about? Why have you taken other medication and refused this one? Remind them we are now in last days in your eyes (that is your opinion and your entitled to it). No previous medicine / vaccination has done gene editing. Warnings of attacking the genetic makeup of God are prevalent. Lets listen to Klaus Schwab in the interview below and EMI e some Time magazine covers surrounding gene editing: https://imgur.com/a/SZtuYvj https://imgur.com/PmApcfA https://imgur.com/8ooQjrU https://imgur.com/MTlNI8K The overall message. They're going to change what it means to be human through gene editing and the 4th industrial revolution. Your case an argument for the danger ahead should now be apparent. To support this notion, you can better a letter of exemption from open your eyes ministries at the thread below: Thread: COVID - letter of EXEMPTION for religious belief available - Open your eyes ministry For more information one why the horsemen are in fact riding to indicate last times in revelation, please see the thread below: Thread: Revelation vs agenda 2030 PART 1 - Horsemen For actual dangers and warnings on the vaccine its self, see media at thread below: Thread: Time2WakeUp - video. Are you trying to wake your family and friends up to the fact somethings not right?? For extra points, you can say you stumbled across this which only adds to tour religious concern: Thread: Covid spelt backwards is divoc. in H3brew = Possession of evil spirit. + Dolly the sheep analysis & synchronicities All in all, I hope this is enough to present your case. For what it's worth, if you havent done, seek the Lord Jesus Christ. I have had experiences and I'm telling you both God, Demons and Aliena are real. Get right with the Lord yourself, see the thread below for some tips, besides of which this may help your case in what you do to walk with God: Thread: A place of wonder and beauty awaits. Eternity is calling, paradise is waiting (near death experiences videos & helpful bible verses) Hope this helps! Last Edited by Little Lost on 11/05/2021 03:27 AM |
Little Lost User ID: 80469772 United Kingdom 11/05/2021 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you havent done so already and dont have a bible, download the KJV bible from the app store. My one allows you to save verses and build a collection. Very hand for referencing and referring back to in your argument. |
Wylfdane User ID: 80837624 United States 11/05/2021 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its called the Marcionite Christian church. [link to www.marcionitechurch.org (secure)] It worked for me. My whole shift converted to the Marcionite church. They can't touch us now. |
Boiling Frog User ID: 80065960 United States 11/10/2021 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its called the Marcionite Christian church. Quoting: Wylfdane [link to www.marcionitechurch.org (secure)] It worked for me. My whole shift converted to the Marcionite church. They can't touch us now. What is your profession? LET'S GO BRANDON!!! Ego imperium repraesentabo nope nos repraesentat! My location says Canada sometimes, even though I'm in America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73743628 United States 11/10/2021 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Employer, Recently I was told I must be vaccinated to continue working here. Unfortunately, I think the risks of the vaccine outweigh the risks of the virus. I also think a mandate like this is unlawful, irrational, and idiotic on every scale. Therefore, I have decided to lace this letter with the rabies virus. You should seek medical attention immediately. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 81004338 Canada 11/10/2021 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert Barnes wrote this for people to use or reword as they wish: Religion in law is: strongly held MORAL belief. And it is religious discrimination for them to question your belief, try to pin a denomination or church or anything. Once you bring up religious belief and what yours is, they can't question you. Religious Exemption Request Exemplar What I would write: "Taking this vaccine violates my conscience for at least three reasons: first, the use of aborted fetuses in either the development or production of these vaccines, or both, when my religious beliefs require that I respect all human life, including fetal life, and not knowingly profit from harm to fetal life; second, the invasion of my body with foreign toxins when my religious beliefs require I treat my body as a temple, and not so knowingly desecrate it; and third, the coercion against informed consent of this vaccine when my religious beliefs require all medical treatment be conditioned upon informed consent. This is a matter of life and death, the very purpose for which I live my life, respect for all human beings and all human life in the world, a core matter of right and wrong, and essential to my very being. I cannot violate my conscience on such a core matter of my morals and the beliefs that guide me and govern me, formed by religious beliefs and as instructed by my religious tenets. I have never knowingly taken any vaccine, or any medicine, developed or produced with aborted fetal cells, that invaded my body with foreign toxins, or that were compelled against informed consent. The violation of informed consent is a matter of religious conscience; what the Nazi doctors did is morally wrong, spiritually offensive, and participating or partaking in such invasive, coerced medicine at any time offends the very core of my conscience. I cannot consciously disrespect human life, and the core of what makes us human and the dignity it requires we treat ourselves and our fellow human beings, even if it might medically or financially profit me to do so. Some things are not for sale; my conscience, formed by the core of religious tenets, is one of them." The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Depluribus Unum User ID: 80132745 United States 11/10/2021 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to get this out to them in the next 2hrs. Quoting: FivelCubed If you have any links to great videos, articles, journals, please post them here. Any other recommendations, please let me know. Start from the standpoint that the first amendment does not obligate you to choose from a preselected list of government approved religions, and that they have no right to test your faith. If it is against your sincerely held beliefs, then you are under no obligation to convince them of your beliefs - most HR bureaucrats aren't capable of understanding anything beyond themselves and their tiny petty lives. From many, covfefe |
calamity john User ID: 78810024 11/10/2021 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just say your muslim and that you cant let swine in your system. and then state that they wont tell you whats in it. so it is more than likely swine. they aint telling you the truuf so no real need to tell them the truuf. i have looked into the abyss and see the abyss staring back at me. |
calamity john User ID: 78810024 11/10/2021 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | secondly when things are said like. "the university has 98% vaccinated" it means they allow some exemption. and who has more "religious rights" right now in this shitgov. i have looked into the abyss and see the abyss staring back at me. |
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God of War User ID: 81102053 United States 11/10/2021 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have two choices, 1. You must present a letter that is based upon case law, ie seek an atty to write. 2. The 5th circuit has stayed the mandate. Ask your employer under what guidance are they asking for vaccine information and why is it limited to covid when the mandate has been stayed. Since the mandate does not exist currently you can default to state law, which also included philosophical reasons. Confer with HR. Your best bet is to push the 5th circuit decision. Next is get an atty. Do not write it on your own. It needs case law precedent. Ps - DO NOT cite your religion, affiliation or sect, holy book... period!!! Last Edited by God of War on 11/10/2021 11:01 AM |
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LUNARL00 User ID: 80500606 United States 11/10/2021 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My religious exemption was accepted, almost all of my coworkers who also submitted religious exemptions were denied. My suggestion is to be clear, concise, and let them know that you will under no circumstances take the vaccine. I also avoided using the fetal cell usage during research/production as a reason for my religious exemption.. my company was using that as a way to attack by citing that many medications like Tylenol used them during research. |
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Obvious Alias User ID: 71828855 United States 11/10/2021 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to get this out to them in the next 2hrs. Quoting: FivelCubed If you have any links to great videos, articles, journals, please post them here. Any other recommendations, please let me know. Seeing as you started this thread five days ago, but only had two hours to come up with an exemption request, how about giving us an update as to what you came up with? And, how well did it work or not work? Obvious Alias |
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Stribog User ID: 71510575 United States 11/11/2021 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To update you all... Quoting: FivelCubed I sent them almost 5 full pages of medical and religious exemption reasons. Today, they sent me an email saying my exemption request was approved. Thank God. Can you link those pages or summarize the key points please? My employer said that we are required to get vaxxed or submit to weekly testing. Will this protect me from getting the weekly test as well? I don’t mind wearing a mask and getting temp checked. Stribog. |
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FivelCubed (OP) User ID: 79203347 United States 11/11/2021 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To update you all... Quoting: FivelCubed I sent them almost 5 full pages of medical and religious exemption reasons. Today, they sent me an email saying my exemption request was approved. Thank God. Can you link those pages or summarize the key points please? My employer said that we are required to get vaxxed or submit to weekly testing. Will this protect me from getting the weekly test as well? I don’t mind wearing a mask and getting temp checked. I will have to scrub some info and reword a bit so-as to avoid exposing my personal health info and identity to GLPers and my employer (if they search for key words/terms I used and find me here). |
beeches User ID: 78973486 United States 11/11/2021 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To update you all... Quoting: FivelCubed I sent them almost 5 full pages of medical and religious exemption reasons. Today, they sent me an email saying my exemption request was approved. Thank God. Wonderful news, thanks for the success story! can only echo this! Great news Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Elloelle User ID: 14904217 United States 11/11/2021 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To update you all... Quoting: FivelCubed I sent them almost 5 full pages of medical and religious exemption reasons. Today, they sent me an email saying my exemption request was approved. Thank God. thank God. My work approved my Religion for me (/sarc) and accepted my waiver, but I'm having to go through this same bullshit again now for the flu shot .. sigh, it won't ever end. |
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