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There is a self-inflicted manpower shortage on the Class 1 Railroads, but also the opportunity for one of them to become dominant

 
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There is a self-inflicted manpower shortage on the Class 1 Railroads, but also the opportunity for one of them to become dominant
One of the biggest if not the prime reason for the supply-chain shortages facing Americans today is the lack of manpower and rolling stock on the Class 1 Freight Railroads. It is a result of a self-inflicted wound on the part of the Railroad. The problem facing the Class I's right now is the fact that they implemented the Un-American, economy-killing, corporate-raiding business model of the psychopath Railroad Tycoon E. Hunter Harrison...known as "Precision Scheduled Railroading" which intentionally cut workforces and rolling stock in the years leading up to "the Pandemic" in order to artificially jack the stock price in the short term. Both Trump and Biden failed to intervene and stop "Precision Scheduled Railroading", which is a direct threat to our economic national security since the Railroads are in fact the lifeblood of the economy. Now the Railroads do not have the manpower, infrastructure or locomotives to get the Economy back to life. It's a perfect storm that will lead to Depression if someone doesn't get it under control fast. This Government-forced Vaccine Mandate would have only made this situation worse as many Railroaders would have simply retired early or quit.

Thank God the Supreme Court ruled the way they did, but the fact is that the ruling does not prevent private businesses from implementing their own mandates. I learned recently from a relative who works for CSX Railroad that CSX will be implementing their own Vaccine Mandate. Given the manpower shortage across all of the Class 1 Railroads operating in America today, such a decision by CSX presents the other 3 Class 1 Railroads here with a tremendous opportunity to hire the many CSX employees who will now look for work with another Railroad. BNSF, Union Pacific, Norfolk Southern: one of these will become the dominant North American Railroad, with a corresponding increase in stock price, if they seize this opportunity and implement Mandate-Free Policies going forward.

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I'm pretty sure Berkshire owns them all.thus odds are csx is dead weight and he's hair cutting top heavy management.may close up that branch.
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This is true. I was one of Hunters victims' in 2013. He made things so unbearable I just quit and many others did as well. My terminal and many others across Canada have been hiring steady since 2013.

Now, both Class 1's in Canada are hiring like crazy as they bleed more professional railroaders due to Justines edicts for compulsorily injections to work for federally regulated jobs...

I predict a rash of railway mishaps as wet behind the ears railroaders will be training FNG's. It's going to get downright dangerous on the rails...
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Check into this:Berkshire is owned by Goldman Sacs??.Goldman is owned by Jacob Rothschild??.The biggest bankers always wanted the American railroads in their pockets.
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One of the biggest if not the prime reason for the supply-chain shortages facing Americans today is the lack of manpower and rolling stock on the Class 1 Freight Railroads. It is a result of a self-inflicted wound on the part of the Railroad. The problem facing the Class I's right now is the fact that they implemented the Un-American, economy-killing, corporate-raiding business model of the psychopath Railroad Tycoon E. Hunter Harrison...known as "Precision Scheduled Railroading" which intentionally cut workforces and rolling stock in the years leading up to "the Pandemic" in order to artificially jack the stock price in the short term. Both Trump and Biden failed to intervene and stop "Precision Scheduled Railroading", which is a direct threat to our economic national security since the Railroads are in fact the lifeblood of the economy. Now the Railroads do not have the manpower, infrastructure or locomotives to get the Economy back to life. It's a perfect storm that will lead to Depression if someone doesn't get it under control fast. This Government-forced Vaccine Mandate would have only made this situation worse as many Railroaders would have simply retired early or quit.

Thank God the Supreme Court ruled the way they did, but the fact is that the ruling does not prevent private businesses from implementing their own mandates. I learned recently from a relative who works for CSX Railroad that CSX will be implementing their own Vaccine Mandate. Given the manpower shortage across all of the Class 1 Railroads operating in America today, such a decision by CSX presents the other 3 Class 1 Railroads here with a tremendous opportunity to hire the many CSX employees who will now look for work with another Railroad. BNSF, Union Pacific, Norfolk Southern: one of these will become the dominant North American Railroad, with a corresponding increase in stock price, if they seize this opportunity and implement Mandate-Free Policies going forward.
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I wish it were that simple, but they aren't off the hook yet. Many (if not most) of these Class 1 RRs are federal contractors. They are still on the hook for the jab, and facing imminent manpower cuts.
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One of the biggest if not the prime reason for the supply-chain shortages facing Americans today is the lack of manpower and rolling stock on the Class 1 Freight Railroads. It is a result of a self-inflicted wound on the part of the Railroad. The problem facing the Class I's right now is the fact that they implemented the Un-American, economy-killing, corporate-raiding business model of the psychopath Railroad Tycoon E. Hunter Harrison...known as "Precision Scheduled Railroading" which intentionally cut workforces and rolling stock in the years leading up to "the Pandemic" in order to artificially jack the stock price in the short term. Both Trump and Biden failed to intervene and stop "Precision Scheduled Railroading", which is a direct threat to our economic national security since the Railroads are in fact the lifeblood of the economy. Now the Railroads do not have the manpower, infrastructure or locomotives to get the Economy back to life. It's a perfect storm that will lead to Depression if someone doesn't get it under control fast. This Government-forced Vaccine Mandate would have only made this situation worse as many Railroaders would have simply retired early or quit.

Thank God the Supreme Court ruled the way they did, but the fact is that the ruling does not prevent private businesses from implementing their own mandates. I learned recently from a relative who works for CSX Railroad that CSX will be implementing their own Vaccine Mandate. Given the manpower shortage across all of the Class 1 Railroads operating in America today, such a decision by CSX presents the other 3 Class 1 Railroads here with a tremendous opportunity to hire the many CSX employees who will now look for work with another Railroad. BNSF, Union Pacific, Norfolk Southern: one of these will become the dominant North American Railroad, with a corresponding increase in stock price, if they seize this opportunity and implement Mandate-Free Policies going forward.
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They don't want to get it under control.

They want to depopulate the planet.
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Having 17 years at a class one here are my thoughts. Bnsf wasn’t bad before buffet took over. There was very little change in the top management and most are still around from pre buffet. The current ceo made a trip to my terminal, we had two directions from local management before we went out to work, keep the noise to a minimum and don’t go near the sleeper cars. The current ceo didn’t bother to come in and meet the crews and chat, but she did have one hell of a security detail. Currently at my terminal, upper management has gutted the extra boards, down to the bare minimum, meaning most of the time jobs don’t get filled and through freight waits, more crews dying online due to poor dispatcher and chief dispatcher decisions, trying to run trains to big for weather conditions and crews die in the yard waiting on air. They have gone to the bare minimum on engines and horsepower, we sent out a 10000 ton train with one road unit a month ago, ended using having engine problems and there it sat for 7 hours till some bean counter decided they needed more horsepower to make it up hills. Now that winter is here management has also drastically cut the section guys down to a minimum and they are required to cover a few hundred miles of track. They talk about safety and how good it is, but from this switchmans point of view, it’s all talk, and the company knows safety costs money and when it comes down to it, the company takes a pass on it. Now if people don’t know, bnsf is implementing a new “ policy “ called hi-viz. personally it doesn’t affect me much since I don’t abuse the system but it will lead to quite a few people being fired for availability. When I mention upper management I am referring to those fine folks in Fort Worth. I don’t buy the no engines theory either, both bnsf and UP have hundreds of engines stored. I also want to comment on what I believe is going on. There isn’t a problem with manpower or the employees that are currently working for bnsf or any class 1 railroad. I believe it’s a management issue and how most of these folks have never had to work under these policies or work rules. I also believe that here at bnsf our top management is more concerned about the class A shareholders than what is actually good for the customers and the employees. I believe that was s why there is a manpower and engine shortage, more employees and engines mean less profit for the class A shareholders. Thanks for reading my rant, just some thoughts from a switchman. Oh, and I won’t go into the huuuge push that bnsf is making for one man crews. I could go on and on for a while, but I won’t.
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Having 17 years at a class one here are my thoughts. Bnsf wasn’t bad before buffet took over. There was very little change in the top management and most are still around from pre buffet. The current ceo made a trip to my terminal, we had two directions from local management before we went out to work, keep the noise to a minimum and don’t go near the sleeper cars. The current ceo didn’t bother to come in and meet the crews and chat, but she did have one hell of a security detail. Currently at my terminal, upper management has gutted the extra boards, down to the bare minimum, meaning most of the time jobs don’t get filled and through freight waits, more crews dying online due to poor dispatcher and chief dispatcher decisions, trying to run trains to big for weather conditions and crews die in the yard waiting on air. They have gone to the bare minimum on engines and horsepower, we sent out a 10000 ton train with one road unit a month ago, ended using having engine problems and there it sat for 7 hours till some bean counter decided they needed more horsepower to make it up hills. Now that winter is here management has also drastically cut the section guys down to a minimum and they are required to cover a few hundred miles of track. They talk about safety and how good it is, but from this switchmans point of view, it’s all talk, and the company knows safety costs money and when it comes down to it, the company takes a pass on it. Now if people don’t know, bnsf is implementing a new “ policy “ called hi-viz. personally it doesn’t affect me much since I don’t abuse the system but it will lead to quite a few people being fired for availability. When I mention upper management I am referring to those fine folks in Fort Worth. I don’t buy the no engines theory either, both bnsf and UP have hundreds of engines stored. I also want to comment on what I believe is going on. There isn’t a problem with manpower or the employees that are currently working for bnsf or any class 1 railroad. I believe it’s a management issue and how most of these folks have never had to work under these policies or work rules. I also believe that here at bnsf our top management is more concerned about the class A shareholders than what is actually good for the customers and the employees. I believe that was s why there is a manpower and engine shortage, more employees and engines mean less profit for the class A shareholders. Thanks for reading my rant, just some thoughts from a switchman. Oh, and I won’t go into the huuuge push that bnsf is making for one man crews. I could go on and on for a while, but I won’t.
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hesright
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Thing is, we are going through a rapid financial change. The wages may no longer be competitive. Thinking of retiring out of My 80k job for someone who pays a FAMILY WAGE in 2022.

What do they pay?
What are the prerequisites?
Could be an Uber driver makes more with far less stupidity.
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Similar overmanagement issue at my job. I notice they have hardly left their hermedically sealed offices in years. They rule by email now.
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Having 17 years at a class one here are my thoughts. Bnsf wasn’t bad before buffet took over. There was very little change in the top management and most are still around from pre buffet. The current ceo made a trip to my terminal, we had two directions from local management before we went out to work, keep the noise to a minimum and don’t go near the sleeper cars. The current ceo didn’t bother to come in and meet the crews and chat, but she did have one hell of a security detail. Currently at my terminal, upper management has gutted the extra boards, down to the bare minimum, meaning most of the time jobs don’t get filled and through freight waits, more crews dying online due to poor dispatcher and chief dispatcher decisions, trying to run trains to big for weather conditions and crews die in the yard waiting on air. They have gone to the bare minimum on engines and horsepower, we sent out a 10000 ton train with one road unit a month ago, ended using having engine problems and there it sat for 7 hours till some bean counter decided they needed more horsepower to make it up hills. Now that winter is here management has also drastically cut the section guys down to a minimum and they are required to cover a few hundred miles of track. They talk about safety and how good it is, but from this switchmans point of view, it’s all talk, and the company knows safety costs money and when it comes down to it, the company takes a pass on it. Now if people don’t know, bnsf is implementing a new “ policy “ called hi-viz. personally it doesn’t affect me much since I don’t abuse the system but it will lead to quite a few people being fired for availability. When I mention upper management I am referring to those fine folks in Fort Worth. I don’t buy the no engines theory either, both bnsf and UP have hundreds of engines stored. I also want to comment on what I believe is going on. There isn’t a problem with manpower or the employees that are currently working for bnsf or any class 1 railroad. I believe it’s a management issue and how most of these folks have never had to work under these policies or work rules. I also believe that here at bnsf our top management is more concerned about the class A shareholders than what is actually good for the customers and the employees. I believe that was s why there is a manpower and engine shortage, more employees and engines mean less profit for the class A shareholders. Thanks for reading my rant, just some thoughts from a switchman. Oh, and I won’t go into the huuuge push that bnsf is making for one man crews. I could go on and on for a while, but I won’t.
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They're pushing one-man crews here at Union Pacific big time. All the problems you just mentioned are the exact same problems we have. No engines, Precision Railroading, idiot dispatchers, shitty maintenance, Air tests not being done for hours so we sit in the away from home terminal endlessly, ridiculous attendance schedule, crews dying, people getting furloughed and not enough of them come back after being recalled so we get borrow outs. I got let go for taking FMLA. I talked to some lawyers about it. It's all on purpose to tank the economy. All the corporations are in lock step to tank the economy.
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Having 17 years at a class one here are my thoughts. Bnsf wasn’t bad before buffet took over. There was very little change in the top management and most are still around from pre buffet. The current ceo made a trip to my terminal, we had two directions from local management before we went out to work, keep the noise to a minimum and don’t go near the sleeper cars. The current ceo didn’t bother to come in and meet the crews and chat, but she did have one hell of a security detail. Currently at my terminal, upper management has gutted the extra boards, down to the bare minimum, meaning most of the time jobs don’t get filled and through freight waits, more crews dying online due to poor dispatcher and chief dispatcher decisions, trying to run trains to big for weather conditions and crews die in the yard waiting on air. They have gone to the bare minimum on engines and horsepower, we sent out a 10000 ton train with one road unit a month ago, ended using having engine problems and there it sat for 7 hours till some bean counter decided they needed more horsepower to make it up hills. Now that winter is here management has also drastically cut the section guys down to a minimum and they are required to cover a few hundred miles of track. They talk about safety and how good it is, but from this switchmans point of view, it’s all talk, and the company knows safety costs money and when it comes down to it, the company takes a pass on it. Now if people don’t know, bnsf is implementing a new “ policy “ called hi-viz. personally it doesn’t affect me much since I don’t abuse the system but it will lead to quite a few people being fired for availability. When I mention upper management I am referring to those fine folks in Fort Worth. I don’t buy the no engines theory either, both bnsf and UP have hundreds of engines stored. I also want to comment on what I believe is going on. There isn’t a problem with manpower or the employees that are currently working for bnsf or any class 1 railroad. I believe it’s a management issue and how most of these folks have never had to work under these policies or work rules. I also believe that here at bnsf our top management is more concerned about the class A shareholders than what is actually good for the customers and the employees. I believe that was s why there is a manpower and engine shortage, more employees and engines mean less profit for the class A shareholders. Thanks for reading my rant, just some thoughts from a switchman. Oh, and I won’t go into the huuuge push that bnsf is making for one man crews. I could go on and on for a while, but I won’t.
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They're pushing one-man crews here at Union Pacific big time. All the problems you just mentioned are the exact same problems we have. No engines, Precision Railroading, idiot dispatchers, shitty maintenance, Air tests not being done for hours so we sit in the away from home terminal endlessly, ridiculous attendance schedule, crews dying, people getting furloughed and not enough of them come back after being recalled so we get borrow outs. I got let go for taking FMLA. I talked to some lawyers about it. It's all on purpose to tank the economy. All the corporations are in lock step to tank the economy.
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America is being overtaken by dual-citizens and traitors, that's a fact.
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Having 17 years at a class one here are my thoughts. Bnsf wasn’t bad before buffet took over. There was very little change in the top management and most are still around from pre buffet. The current ceo made a trip to my terminal, we had two directions from local management before we went out to work, keep the noise to a minimum and don’t go near the sleeper cars. The current ceo didn’t bother to come in and meet the crews and chat, but she did have one hell of a security detail. Currently at my terminal, upper management has gutted the extra boards, down to the bare minimum, meaning most of the time jobs don’t get filled and through freight waits, more crews dying online due to poor dispatcher and chief dispatcher decisions, trying to run trains to big for weather conditions and crews die in the yard waiting on air. They have gone to the bare minimum on engines and horsepower, we sent out a 10000 ton train with one road unit a month ago, ended using having engine problems and there it sat for 7 hours till some bean counter decided they needed more horsepower to make it up hills. Now that winter is here management has also drastically cut the section guys down to a minimum and they are required to cover a few hundred miles of track. They talk about safety and how good it is, but from this switchmans point of view, it’s all talk, and the company knows safety costs money and when it comes down to it, the company takes a pass on it. Now if people don’t know, bnsf is implementing a new “ policy “ called hi-viz. personally it doesn’t affect me much since I don’t abuse the system but it will lead to quite a few people being fired for availability. When I mention upper management I am referring to those fine folks in Fort Worth. I don’t buy the no engines theory either, both bnsf and UP have hundreds of engines stored. I also want to comment on what I believe is going on. There isn’t a problem with manpower or the employees that are currently working for bnsf or any class 1 railroad. I believe it’s a management issue and how most of these folks have never had to work under these policies or work rules. I also believe that here at bnsf our top management is more concerned about the class A shareholders than what is actually good for the customers and the employees. I believe that was s why there is a manpower and engine shortage, more employees and engines mean less profit for the class A shareholders. Thanks for reading my rant, just some thoughts from a switchman. Oh, and I won’t go into the huuuge push that bnsf is making for one man crews. I could go on and on for a while, but I won’t.
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They're pushing one-man crews here at Union Pacific big time. All the problems you just mentioned are the exact same problems we have. No engines, Precision Railroading, idiot dispatchers, shitty maintenance, Air tests not being done for hours so we sit in the away from home terminal endlessly, ridiculous attendance schedule, crews dying, people getting furloughed and not enough of them come back after being recalled so we get borrow outs. I got let go for taking FMLA. I talked to some lawyers about it. It's all on purpose to tank the economy. All the corporations are in lock step to tank the economy.
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America is being overtaken by dual-citizens and traitors, that's a fact.
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Yup. And no one is doing anything about it. Bible prophecy will come to pass and it's coming to pass.
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Thread: RAILROAD STRIKE! Fly over states largely affected!
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BNSF IS OWNED BY WARREN BUFFET

THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO WIN

BINGO

NAILED IT
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BNSF IS OWNED BY WARREN BUFFET

THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO WIN

BINGO

NAILED IT
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I'd put my money on Norfolk Southern. Despite their embrace of PSR, they don't seem to be totally onboard with the Mandates. And they just got new management. Hopefully, the new guy sees the writing on the wall and the opportunity to become the Railroad's version of Tesla, assuming he plays his cards correctly.

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