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California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago

 
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
I know of a score of people who's land was taken as this families.

Problem is their European and Hispanic.
Their land is now streets and water treatment facilities they received low ball bids too.


We are NOT equal in this country.
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Whites need to take inequalities of law, such as this, and claim it as a precedent for all- because inequality under law is blatantly unconstitutional. Then they need to flood courts with claims of their own for the same kind of payment. But they won't, they never do.
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"30 lots were acquired by the city through eminent domain on the pretense of building a park. Twenty five of those lots were owned by white families. The total paid for the 30 lots was $66,040.63. Even though the Bruce family owned only two out of the 30 lots, the Bruce family received $14,500, or 22 percent of the amount awarded by the court. Some of the lots were vacant land and others had improvements on them."

"Of the five black families who were forced to sell their property, four of them purchased another parcel in Manhattan Beach. They were not “driven out of town,” as some have stated. The Bruce family was the only Black family to leave the city as a result of the eminent domain."

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Gee. Our 180-acre centennial family farm was confiscated in 1969 by eminent domain and we ended up in a trailer park. I wonder if we can have that back, too.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
then by example the "black family" should give it back to whomever owned it prior.
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It wasn't even stolen. It was purchased, and only NOW are they upset about the deal! These people were not even alive when the legal deal was made. They saw a payday, and California will now be paying them yearly with taxpayer money.
 Quoting: FightForGod!


Eminent domain is a criminal thing. Where they have no legal way to force you to sell, or no legal way to buy it. So they do that, to get it anyway.

You won't sell? Eminent domain it out of your hands.

These people deserve to be paid for it if you ask me.
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These people weren't alive in 1924.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
then by example the "black family" should give it back to whomever owned it prior.
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It wasn't even stolen. It was purchased, and only NOW are they upset about the deal! These people were not even alive when the legal deal was made. They saw a payday, and California will now be paying them yearly with taxpayer money.
 Quoting: FightForGod!


Eminent domain is a criminal thing. Where they have no legal way to force you to sell, or no legal way to buy it. So they do that, to get it anyway.

You won't sell? Eminent domain it out of your hands.

These people deserve to be paid for it if you ask me.
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These people weren't alive in 1924.
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Says the trust fund baby…
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
meanwhile thousands of white families who have lost their properties to eminent domain get nothing
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It will soon be a place where black people can once again enjoy the beach.

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then by example the "black family" should give it back to whomever owned it prior.
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Indians died because of black privilege!

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Unless they are wealthy the property tax will force them to sell it ......







again
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Here's a little more history about it - listing out the multiple families who were forced to sell under eminent domain. Wondering if the other 28 lots are going to be given back to their descendants (sarcasm)....

"The California Eagle printed a letter from E. Burton Ceruti, Attorney for the L.A. Branch, N.A.A.C.P. on July 11, 1924, wherein he stated that Mrs. Bruce was “willing to sell her property and, even if a suit be instituted, would sell at a fair price at any time, and would abandon the suit at such time.” By December, they had entered into the condemnation proceedings with Attorney Willis O. Tyler as their lawyer."

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I think they opened a door.... Reparations? Giving back lots taken from eminent domain? Might get interesting. When will this end? It never will.

Not saying that family wasn't harassed - at that time in our history, I have no doubt they were. But if the city/county/state gives back one lot that they forced the owner to sell, they must give back the other 28 lots. Isn't this entire case based on fairness? Then they should be fair to all. JMHO

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Shut df up you dirty ass pirates tomorrow you are one day closer to spontaneous combustion we can't wait to never see you Fuckers again!
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
This, like a lot of other things to do with the nations’s seashore beaches, is BS.

The USSC ruled in the early 1980s that the nation’s seashore beaches are public property, and cannot be owned by any person, state or municipality, nor can access to the beach be contingent on beach passes, etc.. Nevertheless, this ruling has been ignored with impunity by almost every state that borders the ocean.

America is basically a lawless nation.
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That is correct. They do not have to allow you access via an easement to the beach, but they do not actually OWN the beach. No such thing as a "private" beach.
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They can own the beach up until the sand becomes wet from the ocean.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Go look at the map, itrs multiple blocks, a park, a parking lot, a life guard station and a beach, worth many millions.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Yeah, they were payed $14,500 for it in 1924.

That amount back then would be the equivalent of around $200,000 or more today, so hardly stolen.

They would have been able to purchase a couple of nice homes with the money they received.
 Quoting: Daniel~Sun


:9teen: You forget that they had a thriving business, so yeah it was stolen. Same for a lot of poor white and brown folk as well.
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Yeah, but poor Whites will never be compensated and are still being screwed over.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
How did blacks acquire beachfront property in CA 100 years ago?
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Because, you know, they just LOVE the beach!

They don't even want the beach:

Bruce's Beach in California was formally returned to the Black descendants it was seized from in 1924.
Charles and Willa Bruce ran a resort for Black families until their land was seized by the city via eminent domain.
The Bruce family plans to lease their newly-returned land back to the city for $413,000 a year.


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shit son.. 90 percent of these muhfuckas cant even swim or go into the woods
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
then by example the "black family" should give it back to whomever owned it prior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70470468


It wasn't even stolen. It was purchased, and only NOW are they upset about the deal! These people were not even alive when the legal deal was made. They saw a payday, and California will now be paying them yearly with taxpayer money.
 Quoting: FightForGod!


JEALOUS RACIST DETECTED

ALWAYS SUBERSIVE TO THE TRUTH
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
then by example the "black family" should give it back to whomever owned it prior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70470468


It wasn't even stolen. It was purchased, and only NOW are they upset about the deal! These people were not even alive when the legal deal was made. They saw a payday, and California will now be paying them yearly with taxpayer money.
 Quoting: FightForGod!


Good for them. Which of us -- given an opportunity like this -- would not take it??
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Eminent domain is perfectly legal in the United States of America; always has been. The problem is with the Kelo decision, SCOTUS changed the definition of public use. It used to mean highways, water treatment plants etc. Now, it can mean a corporation that can bring in more tax revenue to the gov is worthy. If the black family was compensated nearly one hundred years ago, they should not get a do over. White people (including relatives of mine) have had the same thing happen to them for hundreds of years here. [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Yeah, they were payed $14,500 for it in 1924.

That amount back then would be the equivalent of around $200,000 or more today, so hardly stolen.

They would have been able to purchase a couple of nice homes with the money they received.
 Quoting: Daniel~Sun


We know what's been stolen when $14,500 in 1924 is worth $200,000 or more today.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Eminent domain is perfectly legal in the United States of America; always has been. The problem is with the Kelo decision, SCOTUS changed the definition of public use. It used to mean highways, water treatment plants etc. Now, it can mean a corporation that can bring in more tax revenue to the gov is worthy. If the black family was compensated nearly one hundred years ago, they should not get a do over. White people (including relatives of mine) have had the same thing happen to them for hundreds of years here. [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]
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"Eminent domain is perfectly legal in the United States of America"

That is true.
Eminent domain is also unlawful.
The 'Needs of the state' should Never be an excuse to take someone's Rights.

That communist bullshit should not be allowed because this is the United States of America.
Fuck their socialist legalities.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Because, you know, they just LOVE the beach!

They don't even want the beach:

 Quoting: FightForGod!


STFU!
Do you speak for every black person in existence?

Glad to see justice finally prevail.


And thanks for posting this water cooler story for Monday.

lmao
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Because, you know, they just LOVE the beach!

They don't even want the beach:

Bruce's Beach in California was formally returned to the Black descendants it was seized from in 1924.
Charles and Willa Bruce ran a resort for Black families until their land was seized by the city via eminent domain.
The Bruce family plans to lease their newly-returned land back to the city for $413,000 a year.


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 Quoting: FightForGod!


What about all the countless others whose land was taken of all colors to build a fucking interstate concrete jungle hell hole? They got a few nickels prolly
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Because, you know, they just LOVE the beach!

They don't even want the beach:

Bruce's Beach in California was formally returned to the Black descendants it was seized from in 1924.
Charles and Willa Bruce ran a resort for Black families until their land was seized by the city via eminent domain.
The Bruce family plans to lease their newly-returned land back to the city for $413,000 a year.


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 Quoting: FightForGod!


What about all the countless others whose land was taken of all colors to build a fucking interstate concrete jungle hell hole? They got a few nickels prolly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77949466


How about all the Ranchers whose land was taken for 'nature preserves and parks?
Seems like everyone got screwed by the corporate owed government front.


I guarantee, they wouldn't touch any of Gates new farms.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
White people: "We're helping!" *seal clap* HORK HORK HORK
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
Now blacks can give beach back to the Indians.
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
"30 lots were acquired by the city through eminent domain on the pretense of building a park. Twenty five of those lots were owned by white families. The total paid for the 30 lots was $66,040.63. Even though the Bruce family owned only two out of the 30 lots, the Bruce family received $14,500, or 22 percent of the amount awarded by the court. Some of the lots were vacant land and others had improvements on them."

"Of the five black families who were forced to sell their property, four of them purchased another parcel in Manhattan Beach. They were not “driven out of town,” as some have stated. The Bruce family was the only Black family to leave the city as a result of the eminent domain."

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 Quoting: Paul Drake


Oh look! And now, the rest of the story.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards,
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Re: California gives beach back to black family after it was stolen nearly 100 years ago
This, like a lot of other things to do with the nations’s seashore beaches, is BS.

The USSC ruled in the early 1980s that the nation’s seashore beaches are public property, and cannot be owned by any person, state or municipality, nor can access to the beach be contingent on beach passes, etc.. Nevertheless, this ruling has been ignored with impunity by almost every state that borders the ocean.

America is basically a lawless nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83864825


That is correct. They do not have to allow you access via an easement to the beach, but they do not actually OWN the beach. No such thing as a "private" beach.
 Quoting: FightForGod!


People here in NJ get around this by launching their kayak at any place that offers legal ocean access, like under a bridge right-of-way for example, then paddling to the beach and coming in from the ocean.

The beach patrols will often harass them, and sometimes even give them tickets because they failed to show a “beach pass”, but when it goes to court and gets dismissed, the kayaker sues the town involved and usually gets a very nice payday. Because of this, a lot of shore towns have stopped hassling people coming to the beach from off the ocean, as it’s a losing proposition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83864825


Why can’t you just walk in without a pass through the boardwalk entries? and when they ask tell them to call the cops?





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