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03/16/2008 11:38 AM
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New scam by suburban police
Suburban police have apparently come up with a new scam to justify their jobs and raise revenue for their towns. The policemen simply go through shopping center parking lots, removing vehicle license stickers and then ticketing those cars for driving without a sticker.

[Some background: States like Illinois no longer issue aluminum license plates every year. Instead, they merely issue vehicle license stickers that the car owner sticks to his license plate. The stickers are supposed to be impossible to remove, but that turns out to be a joke--they can be pulled off rather easily.]

After getting a ticket for this manufactured infraction, a car owner who calls up the town hall is told that "the stickers fall off all the time" and then the owner "should use Super Glue." The truth, however, is that the stickers certainly don't "fall off" anywhere but in one or a few crooked towns. The other excuse given by the town hall is that "crooks pull a sticker off one car to use it on another." If true, this would clearly happen most often in the poorest and highest-crime neighborhoods, but it doesn't--it mysteriously happens in one or a few lily-white suburbs only.

The most logical explanation is that suburban policemen are under pressure to justify their own jobs and to raise revenue for their towns. There isn't really enough crime in a lily-white suburb to justify such a bloated police force, so the police need to "manufacture" petty crime in order to provide a reason for their own existence.

So why doesn't this happen in a city (of 100,000 people or more)?

1) A real city typically has real crime to keep its policemen busy.

2) A real city has so-called home rule power, which includes the ability to levy a sales tax to support itself. A real city doesn't have to resort to penny-ante tickets to raise money, nor would such chicken feed provide any significant benefit to the city budget.
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03/16/2008 11:42 AM
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And if you put a plastic cover over your entire license plate, you can get a ticket for this as well.

Something about Police not being able to see the license plate clearly ......

Been seeing lots of people driving with plastic over the entire plate - gets screwed in just like the plate itself.
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03/16/2008 11:43 AM

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republicans call that less government and lower taxes.
why did i send myself to this world?? there must have been a reason.
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03/16/2008 11:48 AM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
BS. All you have to do is take your registration into the city hall and show that you have a valid registration and the ticket is dismissed.

Besides that the cop will radio in and check the registration befor issuing a ticket. If the registration is valid dispatch will inform the officer.
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03/16/2008 11:52 AM
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03/16/2008 11:56 AM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
Suburban police have apparently come up with a new scam to justify their jobs and raise revenue for their towns. The policemen simply go through shopping center parking lots, removing vehicle license stickers and then ticketing those cars for driving without a sticker.

[Some background: States like Illinois no longer issue aluminum license plates every year. Instead, they merely issue vehicle license stickers that the car owner sticks to his license plate. The stickers are supposed to be impossible to remove, but that turns out to be a joke--they can be pulled off rather easily.]

After getting a ticket for this manufactured infraction, a car owner who calls up the town hall is told that "the stickers fall off all the time" and then the owner "should use Super Glue." The truth, however, is that the stickers certainly don't "fall off" anywhere but in one or a few crooked towns. The other excuse given by the town hall is that "crooks pull a sticker off one car to use it on another." If true, this would clearly happen most often in the poorest and highest-crime neighborhoods, but it doesn't--it mysteriously happens in one or a few lily-white suburbs only.

The most logical explanation is that suburban policemen are under pressure to justify their own jobs and to raise revenue for their towns. There isn't really enough crime in a lily-white suburb to justify such a bloated police force, so the police need to "manufacture" petty crime in order to provide a reason for their own existence.

So why doesn't this happen in a city (of 100,000 people or more)?

1) A real city typically has real crime to keep its policemen busy.

2) A real city has so-called home rule power, which includes the ability to levy a sales tax to support itself. A real city doesn't have to resort to penny-ante tickets to raise money, nor would such chicken feed provide any significant benefit to the city budget.
 Quoting: Scammed 390043


You sir, are a fuck-tard.
Scammed
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03/16/2008 12:25 PM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
BS. All you have to do is take your registration into the city hall and show that you have a valid registration and the ticket is dismissed.

Besides that the cop will radio in and check the registration befor issuing a ticket. If the registration is valid dispatch will inform the officer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 383805

False.You obviously don't live in a crooked suburb. Yes, the officer knows very well that you have a valid registration, but he issues the ticket anyway. And no, city hall will not dismiss the ticket. They claim it is your own fault for not using Super Glue.
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03/16/2008 12:28 PM
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You sir, are a fuck-tard.
 Quoting: ImYourFatherLuke 276562

You realize it's impossible to defend such crooked police, so you simply utter a mindless epithet? Do you realize that you merely show your idiocy when you do that?
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03/16/2008 12:46 PM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
what a bullshit thread by an ignoramus trying to get everyone to feel sorry for him that he got a ticket for neglecting his registration. the cyano-acrylate adhesive *IS* 'Crazy Glue', so quit lying. Let's see YOU try to peel one off lol
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03/16/2008 01:04 PM
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what a bullshit thread by an ignoramus trying to get everyone to feel sorry for him that he got a ticket for neglecting his registration. the cyano-acrylate adhesive *IS* 'Crazy Glue', so quit lying. Let's see YOU try to peel one off lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393507

I am telling the truth. You must therefore be a shill.

After my sister-in-law was told that she needed to use Super Glue, she did peel off all the previous years' stickers quite easily. So Illinois, at least, does not use a nonremovable adhesive.

And this account is not directly my own. It came from my brother and his wife, who are ordinarily very pro-government. (In fact, my brother has had an executive position in government for decades.) They themselves are not yet ready to believe that police could be dishonest; they therefore prefer to imagine that stickers really do fall off by themselves, or that thieves prey upon lily-white suburbs just for their vehicle stickers.

But my brother and his wife testified that:

1) The same had happened to multiple friends of theirs.

2) When they called in to the city hall, they were told that "it happens all the time."

3) A friend of theirs was ticketed twice, on successive days, for this same "offense"--because she had not had time to get a replacement sticker in the intervening 24 hours.
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03/16/2008 01:06 PM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
BS. All you have to do is take your registration into the city hall and show that you have a valid registration and the ticket is dismissed.

Besides that the cop will radio in and check the registration befor issuing a ticket. If the registration is valid dispatch will inform the officer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 383805

The ticketed offense is not "Vehicle Without Registration," but rather "Vehicle Not Displaying Registration Sticker." The police officer knows full well that the car has a valid registration.
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03/16/2008 01:08 PM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
How do you know its not some low life stealing the stickers?
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03/16/2008 01:15 PM
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what the motherfuck!! You clowns have your rego stickers on the outside of your cars? Huh? Please tell me you aren't that stupid.
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03/16/2008 01:38 PM
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You clowns have your rego stickers on the outside of your cars? Huh? Please tell me you aren't that stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393513

That is the State of Illinois requirement. The vehicle registration sticker must be directly on the license plate--yes, on the outside of the car.

We are not referring to a city or county sticker, which would ordinarily be on the inside of the windshield.
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03/16/2008 01:40 PM
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How do you know its not some low life stealing the stickers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 370480

If that were true, the phenomenon would be more common in poorer and higher-crime neighborhoods. A car thief would not come to one particular lily-white suburb only to steal vehicle stickers, without stealing vehicles.

If you mean vandalism, I suppose that's conceivable. But even in that case, ticketing the cars for it is essentially Blaming the Victim.
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03/16/2008 01:42 PM
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If it's vandalism, why aren't the police looking for the vandal instead of ticketing his victims?
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03/16/2008 01:49 PM
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That is the State of Illinois requirement. The vehicle registration sticker must be directly on the license plate--yes, on the outside of the car.

We are not referring to a city or county sticker, which would ordinarily be on the inside of the windshield.
 Quoting: Scammed 390043


Someone needs to change that then.

I'm an Australian so please forgive my ignorance on this.

As for the theft angle... how would it be beneficial to a thief in stealing these stickers? The numbers on the sticker (i'm assuming there are some) would correspond to the vehicle wouldn't they?

i.e. stealing these stickers would be pointless, wouldn't it?
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03/16/2008 01:50 PM
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One thing they have been doing, at least within the local area, is messing with the timing cycle of the yellow light on traffic lights. On some of the 'photo enforced' traffic lights the yellow light cycle time has been adjusted down (in some cases 25%) to give the cameras more of an opportunity to catch someone going through it. Thus adding income to the revenue stream. One of the magistrate judges did indeed find this to be the case and threw out several hundred tickets and popped traffic enforcement with a nastygram...
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03/16/2008 10:30 PM
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As for the theft angle... how would it be beneficial to a thief in stealing these stickers? The numbers on the sticker (i'm assuming there are some) would correspond to the vehicle wouldn't they?

i.e. stealing these stickers would be pointless, wouldn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393513

You are correct that the sticker has a serial number of its own, and the state's vehicle database can go from that serial number to the correct car and its owner. But most policemen--at least in bustling cities, not drowsy suburbs--don't really have time to be routinely checking the serial number of every car's vehicle sticker. Instead, they generally just check to see if the car has a sticker with an appropriate year and month.
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03/17/2008 01:09 AM
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schaumburg or barrington?
it's just a guess.
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03/17/2008 01:19 AM
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Well, if what you say is true better get photos of your plates.
Keep the photos as proof, maybe a lot of photos, car and plates.
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03/17/2008 01:23 AM
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You sir, are a fuck-tard.

You realize it's impossible to defend such crooked police, so you simply utter a mindless epithet? Do you realize that you merely show your idiocy when you do that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 393537



Ok...I admit it.

I was wrong.


YOU, are indeed the Fuck-tard.
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03/18/2008 01:55 AM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
It is all about GENERATING REVENUE


That is why actual crime stats keep climbing


Solving a murder generates NO INCOME



solving a rape generates NO INCOME


solving a robbery generates NO INCOME



now busting someone for not wearing a seatbelt

generates income


busting someone for having a joint, generates income


busting someone for jaywalking, generates income


and so on


this is why they are so busy generating income-and taking their kickbacks and being as corrupt as ever

SO many of them even the federal prosecutors-and like Washington, the police officer/HS big cheese who shot the furniture delivery men....yes, ones like that...


so many criminals in charge of morality-

thugs

incompetence for most of them is standard operating procedure(sop) is SLOP
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03/18/2008 02:00 AM
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fyi

those stickers are frequently stolen-if actually thoroughly checked it would be discovered but it helps many avoid even being stopped(so no check can be run)


To avoid having to get stuck due to police incompetence-take a sharp object like a razor and slice an X through the sticker-if any thief or paid income generator comes along attempting to victimize the law abider-it will not come off clean-leaving most of the sticker intact-usually when it is pulled it is immediately seen as worthless as it will not come off in one piece-which is important is appearing to have a legit sticker


Corruption is throughout and very nefarious at the top-things are not as they seem


remember this in dealing with high paid criminals
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03/18/2008 03:47 AM
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Re: New scam by suburban police
Here in WA state you can't pull one of those stickers off without ripping it to pieces. They're designed that way, like some pricetags. Even in a big stack on the plate they will rip.





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