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This is CLEARLY FAKE.... here is the reason if you think about it. When we get invaded here in the USA mainland by China & Russia from both borders, after surprise nuclear strikes. NATO will be intimidated the USA got what was coming to it. Since this "classified" document says USA was behind all this anyway. Why should they come to USA rescue even as NATO. Seeing this I KNOW were getting invaded. You know what country is behind this document. It ain't China or Russia that's all I'm saying.
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STRATFOR ( ex cia outfit, stuffed primarily with american jz )

Goal of the J syndicate - sell the idea of US Hegemony
to the dumb American elite, direct it to destroy Russia thru conflict in Ukraine. Covert goal - weaken the Western Civilization including North America, EU and Russia. Essentially pit all against all within the northern race and destroy it, preferably thru WW3. Once the northern race implodes to ashes, build a tyrannical new civilization rules by the Jz, aka the Great Reset.


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Outstanding. That video shows it all.
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Shocking document: How the US planned the war and energy crisis in Europe

The only way: “Draw both sides into war with Ukraine”
In order to crush this political threat, a strategic plan, primarily focused on destroying the German economy, is presented.

“Stopping Russian deliveries could create a systematic crisis that would be devastating for the German economy and indirectly for the European Union as a whole”, it states, and believes that the key is to draw the European countries into war.

“The only possible way to ensure that Germany rejects Russian energy supplies is to draw both sides into the military conflict in Ukraine. Our continued actions in this country will inevitably lead to a military response from Russia. Russia is clearly not going to leave to the massive Ukrainian army’s pressure on the Donetsk People’s Republic without a military response. This would make it possible to portray Russia as the aggressive party and then implement the entire package of sanctions, which has already been drawn up”.

Green parties will force Germany to “fall into the trap”
The green parties in Europe are described as being particularly easy to manipulate into running the errands of American imperialism.

“The prerequisite for Germany to fall into this trap is the dominant role of green parties and European ideologies. The German environmental movement is a highly dogmatic, if not fanatical, movement, which makes it quite easy to get them to ignore economic arguments”, it writes, citing the current foreign minister of Germany, Annalena Baerbock, and the climate minister, Robert Habeck, as examples of this type of politician.

“Personal characteristics and lack of professionalism make it possible to assume that it is impossible for them to recognise their own mistakes in time. I will therefore be sufficient to rapidly form a media image of Putin’s aggressive war – and make the Greens into ardent and tough supporters of sanctions – a ‘war party’. This will make it possible to impose the sanctions without any obstacles”.

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This is very plausible, especially considering the following history regarding Germany:

British general Hasting Ismay is remembered today largely because of his famous assessment of NATO, offered when he was the alliance’s first secretary general. The purpose of the new treaty organization founded in 1952, Ismay asserted, was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

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The British and their US Anglophile counterparts do NOT want a powerful Germany, regardless of their always ill intentions toward Russia.

Last Edited by thinking... on 09/16/2022 07:02 PM
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I read the document. It's obviously real, but RAND says it's fake, and that's that. No big media will touch it and no politicians will acknowledge it. 99 % of the people will never know, and will continue to "support the Ukraine" until they freeze to death.
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I need to see the original document and read it all, not just some quotes, in order to better assess it's possible authenticity. Nevertheless, it's certainly in line with decades of US (British) foreign policy.

Back when Merkel invited in millions of migrants, I read that it was NATO pushing her to do it. Dunno if that's true but the twitter hashtag campaign of "WelcomeRefugees", posing as being tweets from Germans, was uncovered to be driven from the US and UK.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Re-pinned because this is an important topic, regardless of the authenticity of the alleged document referenced in the OP link. This is US foreign policy.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Mwa ha ha ha

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“Now I am most active in Russia. We repeat what happened during the collapse of the USSR. But, alas, there is a difference. Then the Union was dying, and Europe was experiencing an upsurge and flourishing. Now it's the other way around - Russia is returning, and the European Union is falling. Sad situation. But our foundation has done a great and successful job. Especially considering that I'm more focused on Ukraine. And a new Ukraine appeared, full of aspirations to become part of the EU, a European democracy. And the people behind it are almost all connected to the foundation in one way or another. Both in government and in society. We are all in touch, and that's great. A quarter of a century of work has paid off.”
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What would be the reason for the US to do this to Germany?
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Dual citizen hatred, and jealousy.
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Nailed it joe Biden’s entire admin are grandchildren of the holodomer
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What would be the reason for the US to do this to Germany?
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Dual citizen hatred, and jealousy.
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Absolutely...
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The whole world is going to invade us one day.
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If they weren't so busy sniffing their own farts, and if actual nationalists had already gotten into power anywhere they already would have lol.

I've been trying to tell the GLP American contingent this for more than two years now, and that the American people should probably bring down their own government before the rest of the world really fully understands just what the current US government has been doing because of shit like this.

Because if the current ruling class in DC is still in power when enough of the rest of the world figures out just what they've been up to...

Yeah, we'll be LUCKY if they just invade and occupy us!

They might just get together and nuke us until the rubble of our big cities bounce.

I know I would advocate for that if I was from a country that wasn't America at this point.
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Most Americans are ready to welcome any invading force as liberators.

Hell, we're ready to welcome any force that just nukes all our big cities as liberators.

Seriously, there is no invading force that could possibly be worse for Americans than the ones currently in DC.

Thing is, it isn't like the people stand any real chance of bothering to overthrow them. Most of their bullshit is still pointed outwards, such as this latest draining of the EU to export our inflation. The bugmen still all have their bread and circuses, and while some of the rest of us are increasingly rejecting what the circus has become, any actual action is still far off. For the most part the solution for your average american is to just move away from all the bullshit and wait for the whole thing to collapse under its own weight. The rebellion maintains a 'pro-shrug' stance and isn't moving much further than that.
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What would be the reason for the US to do this to Germany?
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According to the article the E.U is potentialy a political threat to the U.S
Also money and greed factors in
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Written at the level of a high school dropout. The premise seems accurate, but the writing is an embarrassment. Was it run through google translate? That might explain the clumsiness and grammatical mistakes.
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You are right. Went back and read more thoroughly. Fake.
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Fake or not, the document contains everything that longtime US political adviser Brzezinsky has written down in his many books, as means to ensure US supremacy:

Europe is competition
EUrope has to be weakened
European econimy has to be destroyed
Russia has to be destroyed

All of this is happening right now. Any doubts?

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I have not read his books but read about them. Never knew he called for the destruction of Europe. I wonder where that came from considering he was from Poland.

He also laid out the whole technological dictatorship and was, essentially, the father of Islamic terrorism (as a proxy for the US).
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Shocking document: How the US planned the war and energy crisis in Europe

The only way: “Draw both sides into war with Ukraine”
In order to crush this political threat, a strategic plan, primarily focused on destroying the German economy, is presented.

“Stopping Russian deliveries could create a systematic crisis that would be devastating for the German economy and indirectly for the European Union as a whole”, it states, and believes that the key is to draw the European countries into war.

“The only possible way to ensure that Germany rejects Russian energy supplies is to draw both sides into the military conflict in Ukraine. Our continued actions in this country will inevitably lead to a military response from Russia. Russia is clearly not going to leave to the massive Ukrainian army’s pressure on the Donetsk People’s Republic without a military response. This would make it possible to portray Russia as the aggressive party and then implement the entire package of sanctions, which has already been drawn up”.

Green parties will force Germany to “fall into the trap”
The green parties in Europe are described as being particularly easy to manipulate into running the errands of American imperialism.

“The prerequisite for Germany to fall into this trap is the dominant role of green parties and European ideologies. The German environmental movement is a highly dogmatic, if not fanatical, movement, which makes it quite easy to get them to ignore economic arguments”, it writes, citing the current foreign minister of Germany, Annalena Baerbock, and the climate minister, Robert Habeck, as examples of this type of politician.

“Personal characteristics and lack of professionalism make it possible to assume that it is impossible for them to recognise their own mistakes in time. I will therefore be sufficient to rapidly form a media image of Putin’s aggressive war – and make the Greens into ardent and tough supporters of sanctions – a ‘war party’. This will make it possible to impose the sanctions without any obstacles”.

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This is all based on the belief that the people running Germany are morons.

It is the only way for this to be True.

The reality is that having such close economic ties or dependence on each other would avoid a war due to mutually assured economic destruction with you all being so interdependent.

This failed because the people running Russia refused to adapt like the rest of the world.

Same as China.

That is why both of them along with the rest of those that support Russia and China are in the position they are in in relation to the rest of the world.

The USA powered the European Union into what it is.

In fact the USA powered the world up.

China especially benefited from the War on Terror.

They basically financed the War in Afghanistan and Iraq for years.

The Communist party in China all became multi-billionaires off of it.

This looks like a cover story to me the way it is written.
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Oh, come on, this is a way much bigger thing. It´s about trying to destroy conservative-orthodox Russia, the arch-enemy of the progressive-liberal world order.
It started back in 1814, the Congress of Vienna, when the Russian tsar blocked the efforts of the globalists to create the first version of the United Nations.
It continued in 1918 by the execution of the Tsar and his family, and introducing the red terror in Russia, millions of Russian and Ukrainian white "Aryans" being genocided by the commie-liberal red commisars (the Holocaust was btw. a revenge for this)
Then it continued by the Cold War, starting with the rule of Stalin who was a Russian nationalist.
Then it continued by the fall of the Berlin wall and the Yeltsin era, the almost total economic destruction of Russia.
And now it continues by the Ukrainian conflict, again, the attempted destruction of Russia by the Biden regime - by any means.

Primarily, it has always been about the destruction of Russia for the past 200 years. Europe unfortunatelly got into the crossfire like never before.
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Britain is driving this and they have always hated Russia. That said, no momentous events are just about one thing or objective.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Reaction of any US official attached to this document...

:gotta go:
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This is CLEARLY FAKE.... here is the reason if you think about it. When we get invaded here in the USA mainland by China & Russia from both borders, after surprise nuclear strikes. NATO will be intimidated the USA got what was coming to it. Since this "classified" document says USA was behind all this anyway. Why should they come to USA rescue even as NATO. Seeing this I KNOW were getting invaded. You know what country is behind this document. It ain't China or Russia that's all I'm saying.
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Russia and China would never invade.

The only way to defeat the USA is to cause the domestic population to turn on it.

You would know if this operation was taking place if you saw Americans worshiping Putin.

I saw people upset about Iraq and the war there but no one was worshiping Saddam Husain like they are worshiping Putin.
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"On Sept. 14, RAND sent out a press release claiming the document was a fake."

It plants the seed in your head plus it is wonderful for Russia.

Poor unfortunate defenseless Russia.
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What would be the reason for the US to do this to Germany?
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I read something years ago that the biggest threat to the USA wasn't China, Russia or Iran but the EU.

Bigger economy and larger combined army etc
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Read this and you will know what is going on:

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives

Bestselling author and eminent foreign policy scholar Zbigniew Brzezinski's classic book on American's strategic mission in the modern world.
In The Grand Chessboard, renowned geostrategist Zbigniew Brzezinski delivers a brutally honest and provocative vision for American preeminence in the twenty-first century. The task facing the United States, he argues, is to become the sole political arbiter in Eurasian lands and to prevent the emergence of any rival power threatening our material and diplomatic interests. The Eurasian landmass, home to the greatest part of the globe's population, natural resources, and economic activity, is the "grand chessboard" on which America's supremacy will be ratified and challenged in the years to come. In this landmark work of public policy and political science, Brzezinski outlines a groundbreaking and powerful blueprint for America's vital interests in the modern world.
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His was the same view as laid out by Mackinder (British) in his “The Geographical Pivot of History” he referred to Eurasia as the "Heartland" which had to be conquered in order for Britain to control the world. I think it was written around 1901, IIRC. He discounted the US because it wasn't the power it became shortly later and it was, essentially, a "sea power" vs "land power" theory. As the US rose to power after WWI, the Anglophile traitors in the US establishment aligned with Britain and, on the foreign policy front, they are now united and the same.

The machinations of Britain to drag the US into both world wars are well documented. It's hard to say where the shots are called. It was Britain that "encouraged" the US to invade Afghanistan (though not Iraq) - a place they'd tried to conquer for about 160 years. Note who it was who went to Ukraine, to meet with Zelensky, twice: Boris Johnson. He told Zelensky to not stop fighting.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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What would be the reason for the US to do this to Germany?
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USA wants a big war to avoid a great depression their own bankers caused through derelict financial policies for decades. Wars are great for the economy.
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What would be the reason for the US to do this to Germany?
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The Phoenicians were driven out of Troy by Greece. Nobody fights a 10 year war over an unfaithful wife. Maybe over one kidnapped, but not one who strayed. Greece had enough of Troy's douchebaggery.

The Phoenicians spread across the Mediterranean, founding both Rome and Carthage. Once their own people in Carthage were sufficiently looted, they allowed it to collapse (under the guise of the Punic Wars). This is why Hannibal didn't sack Rome when he had the chance, they were all on the same side.

During Rome's subsequent expansion, the only people within reach they couldn't subjugate were the Northern Germanic/Scandinavian tribes. They've had a hate on them ever since, and always will.

WWI wasn't Germany against the world, it was the world against Germany. That victory wasn't enough, Germany's currency was then buried in the 1920s to loot all of them. Then Germany was put into position for reconquest in WWII with their own Phoenician puppet in charge.

They currently run the U.S., England & Commonwealth, the rest of Western Europe, Russia and China. They're moving on the German people for another round of profit taking, ditto with Argentina.
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This was the whole purpose of NATO. This is why it was created.

In the words of Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay, the first NATO general secretary, "NATO was created to keep USA in, The Soviet Union out and Germany down"

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But a lot more recently, around 2010, at a high level NATO meeting, one of the talking heads said that The greatest threat to The West and the current world order, was the alarming signs of friendship between the Massive resources of Russia and the High technological know-how of Germany.
The Americans, Brits and Israelis were very worried by the new cooperation and good relations developing between Russian and Germany.

That's why the wave of refugees was planned, that's why the Georgian and Ukrainian wars were started, to scare continental Europe away from Russia.

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Still reading and that ^^^ is a very good interview.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I read the document. It's obviously real, but RAND says it's fake, and that's that. No big media will touch it and no politicians will acknowledge it. 99 % of the people will never know, and will continue to "support the Ukraine" until they freeze to death.
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Big media is part of the same group running/pushing the actual operation, of course they will not cover it or give any negative attention to themselves.

They tip their hand every time.
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This is CLEARLY FAKE.... here is the reason if you think about it. When we get invaded here in the USA mainland by China & Russia from both borders, after surprise nuclear strikes. NATO will be intimidated the USA got what was coming to it. Since this "classified" document says USA was behind all this anyway. Why should they come to USA rescue even as NATO. Seeing this I KNOW were getting invaded. You know what country is behind this document. It ain't China or Russia that's all I'm saying.
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Russia and China would never invade.

The only way to defeat the USA is to cause the domestic population to turn on it.

You would know if this operation was taking place if you saw Americans worshiping Putin.

I saw people upset about Iraq and the war there but no one was worshiping Saddam Husain like they are worshiping Putin.
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Smart people knew saddam was doing what he needed to keep all the warring factions in Line. Only fools believe the news past 1970.
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The whole world is going to invade us one day.
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If they weren't so busy sniffing their own farts, and if actual nationalists had already gotten into power anywhere they already would have lol.

I've been trying to tell the GLP American contingent this for more than two years now, and that the American people should probably bring down their own government before the rest of the world really fully understands just what the current US government has been doing because of shit like this.

Because if the current ruling class in DC is still in power when enough of the rest of the world figures out just what they've been up to...

Yeah, we'll be LUCKY if they just invade and occupy us!

They might just get together and nuke us until the rubble of our big cities bounce.

I know I would advocate for that if I was from a country that wasn't America at this point.
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America is new babylon where all merchants trade and reside in. Once the dollar collapses people will sorrow the lost of their $$$. They call everything else communisn even if you try to break off from the system. That is how deep the brainwashing goes for Americans.
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People get confused about the "isms". Marxism is being used for destruction, culturally. It's a tool and the useful idiots believe in it. The globalists, however, are more like fascists, though internationalists like Marxists. The US-UK, along with the English speaking Commonwealth, are the British Empire 2.0.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Shocking document: How the US planned the war and energy crisis in Europe

The only way: “Draw both sides into war with Ukraine”
In order to crush this political threat, a strategic plan, primarily focused on destroying the German economy, is presented.

“Stopping Russian deliveries could create a systematic crisis that would be devastating for the German economy and indirectly for the European Union as a whole”, it states, and believes that the key is to draw the European countries into war.

“The only possible way to ensure that Germany rejects Russian energy supplies is to draw both sides into the military conflict in Ukraine. Our continued actions in this country will inevitably lead to a military response from Russia. Russia is clearly not going to leave to the massive Ukrainian army’s pressure on the Donetsk People’s Republic without a military response. This would make it possible to portray Russia as the aggressive party and then implement the entire package of sanctions, which has already been drawn up”.

Green parties will force Germany to “fall into the trap”
The green parties in Europe are described as being particularly easy to manipulate into running the errands of American imperialism.

“The prerequisite for Germany to fall into this trap is the dominant role of green parties and European ideologies. The German environmental movement is a highly dogmatic, if not fanatical, movement, which makes it quite easy to get them to ignore economic arguments”, it writes, citing the current foreign minister of Germany, Annalena Baerbock, and the climate minister, Robert Habeck, as examples of this type of politician.

“Personal characteristics and lack of professionalism make it possible to assume that it is impossible for them to recognise their own mistakes in time. I will therefore be sufficient to rapidly form a media image of Putin’s aggressive war – and make the Greens into ardent and tough supporters of sanctions – a ‘war party’. This will make it possible to impose the sanctions without any obstacles”.

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bump
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Shocking document: How the US planned the war and energy crisis in Europe

The only way: “Draw both sides into war with Ukraine”
In order to crush this political threat, a strategic plan, primarily focused on destroying the German economy, is presented.

“Stopping Russian deliveries could create a systematic crisis that would be devastating for the German economy and indirectly for the European Union as a whole”, it states, and believes that the key is to draw the European countries into war.

“The only possible way to ensure that Germany rejects Russian energy supplies is to draw both sides into the military conflict in Ukraine. Our continued actions in this country will inevitably lead to a military response from Russia. Russia is clearly not going to leave to the massive Ukrainian army’s pressure on the Donetsk People’s Republic without a military response. This would make it possible to portray Russia as the aggressive party and then implement the entire package of sanctions, which has already been drawn up”.

Green parties will force Germany to “fall into the trap”
The green parties in Europe are described as being particularly easy to manipulate into running the errands of American imperialism.

“The prerequisite for Germany to fall into this trap is the dominant role of green parties and European ideologies. The German environmental movement is a highly dogmatic, if not fanatical, movement, which makes it quite easy to get them to ignore economic arguments”, it writes, citing the current foreign minister of Germany, Annalena Baerbock, and the climate minister, Robert Habeck, as examples of this type of politician.

“Personal characteristics and lack of professionalism make it possible to assume that it is impossible for them to recognise their own mistakes in time. I will therefore be sufficient to rapidly form a media image of Putin’s aggressive war – and make the Greens into ardent and tough supporters of sanctions – a ‘war party’. This will make it possible to impose the sanctions without any obstacles”.

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wtf
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The whole world is going to invade us one day.
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If they weren't so busy sniffing their own farts, and if actual nationalists had already gotten into power anywhere they already would have lol.

I've been trying to tell the GLP American contingent this for more than two years now, and that the American people should probably bring down their own government before the rest of the world really fully understands just what the current US government has been doing because of shit like this.

Because if the current ruling class in DC is still in power when enough of the rest of the world figures out just what they've been up to...

Yeah, we'll be LUCKY if they just invade and occupy us!

They might just get together and nuke us until the rubble of our big cities bounce.

I know I would advocate for that if I was from a country that wasn't America at this point.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


America is new babylon where all merchants trade and reside in. Once the dollar collapses people will sorrow the lost of their $$$. They call everything else communisn even if you try to break off from the system. That is how deep the brainwashing goes for Americans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54968437


People get confused about the "isms". Marxism is being used for destruction, culturally. It's a tool and the useful idiots believe in it. The globalists, however, are more like fascists, though internationalists like Marxists. The US-UK, along with the English speaking Commonwealth, are the British Empire 2.0.
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This





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