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Message Subject Dugin, advisor to B. Putin: We are on the brink of World War III, nuclear Armageddon is approaching - Defeat in Kharkiv is of key importance"
Poster Handle Lazy Monk
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I agree with most of that, but 1945 was a special situation where the recipient of the bombs had no answer to them other than surrender, more comparable to Europeans having guns and Indians having bows and arrows than anything going on now. Guaranteed, if the Japanese had had nukes, Honolulu and San Francisco would have looked like Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Yeah, China and Russia have more combined nukes than we do, but we have plenty to get the job done. They would certainly destroy us in a nuclear war, but it would be the most pyrrhic victory (if it even would be a victory) in the history of the world.
 Quoting: Revbo™


Revbo, with all due respect, I studied nuclear war strategy at the Hudson Trade School for Wayward Boys. Later, I was involved in nuclear strategy while working on Reagan’s Star Wars programs.

Right now, I have the book “Soviet Strategy for Nuclear War” based on THEIR training documents.

This is how the Russians would expect to win a nuclear war:

1. Multiple warheads on each silo to ensure destruction.
2. Destroy all aircraft on the ground and ships in port with SLBMs.
3. Destroy every carrier battle group and sub at sea using nuclear depth charges and torpedoes.
4. Destroy the comm facilities on land with SLBMs to prevent launch codes from being transmitted to subs on patrol that may have survived.
5. AVOID hitting cities. They are hostages.
6. Demand negotiation/surrender or the cities would be hit.

The only counter is a President who will retaliate even if over 90% of our nukes are destroyed in the first strike.

YES, the Russians and Chicoms would be taking a huge risk.

However, in their calculation it might be the only move that they think they have.

IMHO, the probability that Putin will use tactical nukes in Ukraine is over 75%.

How do we prevent escalation?

A more basic question: What is the US national interest in Ukraine that requires us to spend so much blood and treasure while risking annihilation?
 Quoting: darth


That last question is pretty easy to answer at least:

The US is a dying empire. When empires die they don't go gently into the night, they lash out in a desperate attempt to delay the inevitable.

The US is today a hollowed-out shell that only survives by printing dollars to buy what it needs from the rest of the world, which the rest of the world only accepts because they get bombed to smithereens if they don't.

But now a certain rising power (China) has grown in strength to the point where it feels it can challenge the US. This emboldens other nations to attempt to escape their subservience to the US by aligning themselves with China instead. The dollar is being abandoned by a huge chunk of the world. Which will mean the end of US global dominance and parasitism if nothing is done about it.

And so the US is lashing out.

The war in Ukraine was orchestrated partly to break up the economic ties between Germany and Russia to keep a competing power from arising in Eurasia, and partly with the hope of fracturing Russia and plundering its resources. If successful, China will be next on the chopping block.

TL/DR:
It's all about the dollar.
 Quoting: Lazy Monk


Lazy, I have a different opinion.

Ukraine is important to politicians and bureaucrats because it is one of the most corrupt countries on Earth.

I think it is all about the kickbacks.

What percent of the money we send to the Ukies is being skimmed off by pols?

Why did pols, e.g., Pelosi, go to a WAR ZONE to visit?

IMHO, so that they could arrange their payoff and launder it without incriminating emails and phone calls.

Ukraine is also a primary source for the slave trade in prostitutes. A beautiful child is worth more than a stack of gold.

It is nauseating that our country has become so corrupt.

Lastly, there are stupid pols in DC who think they will profit from WWIII by being able to attack political opponents as “Russian assets”. Just look at what they just did to Tulsi Gabbard.

They also think that a war will absolve them of the blame for the coming inflationary collapse.

They are risking destruction of modern civilization for profit.
 Quoting: darth


All of that is also true.

Human trafficking is sadly a thing on this godforsaken planet, and where do you get those really attractive blonde and blue-eyed women and children? Ukraine!

Then there's also the fact a certain people wish to make Israel 2.0 out of Ukraine. The current occupants need to be dispersed first.

On one level, the US is fighting to maintain world dominance, as I said. On one level it's just a bunch of crooks protecting their filthy criminal endeavors, as you said.

And on yet another level it's all a sham, with the same secret elites pulling the strings of puppets on both sides, causing the war for depopulation and destruction, to prepare for whatever it is they wish to build on the ruins.

Many agendas on many levels. Maybe there's even aliens/demons/AI at the root of it all. It almost seems like the evil we're witnessing is beyond human capacity at times...
 
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