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Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world

 
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
This entire thread is stupid

The Haber Process effectively produces the synth/base form of granular nitrogen[ammonia]-- doesn't include potash and phosphorus whatsoever

starvation isn't caused by a nitrogen lack
it's caused by a P/K lack

please take your bullshit elsewhere

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An interesting set of experiments were put out by Westco Fertilizer in the late 1990s. This was a multi-year and multi-site study in central Alberta that tried to maximize barley production.

Nutrients were added to sets of plots with one treatment being only nitrogen, the next receiving nitrogen plus phosphate and so on until the final plot received nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium and sulfur and a broad spectrum micro-nutrient application.

All were applied at levels that were significantly higher than soil tests recommended but not to toxic levels.

The study revealed that, on average, nitrogen contributed to 82 percent of the final yield, followed by phosphate at 12 percent, potassium at three percent, sulphur at two percent and finally the micro-nutrient mix at one percent.

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[link to grdc.com.au (secure)]

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[link to www.agric.wa.gov.au (secure)]

Barley was a poor choice for higher [N]PK
Wheat will respond to the higher increased ratio of N, but not enough to warrant the "STARVATION" claim OP uses
Even still, the amount gained versus spent in profitability, I digress
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
Definitely can’t use kelp. Or animal dung. Or animal urinate. Or dead fish. Or bone meal. Or organic matter. Or some other methane. Or garbage. Or fementation Or bird poop.

Nope we are fucked!

Just lay down and die!
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Definitely can’t use kelp. Or animal dung. Or animal urinate. Or dead fish. Or bone meal. Or organic matter. Or some other methane. Or garbage. Or fementation Or bird poop.

Nope we are fucked!

Just lay down and die!
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Or y'know, rotating crops like peanuts to naturally restore nitrogen fertility. I like you, A/C.

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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
guess people dont remember the old ways of making fertilizer ?

no gas used for that then......

so no drama here.
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ahm. the police will arrest you for that.

or kill you if you resist being arrested.
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guess people dont remember the old ways of making fertilizer ?

no gas used for that then......

so no drama here.
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The old way could only feed less than half the population we currently have.

Half the population of the planet going bye-bye, would be I assure you...dramatic.
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Going the new way w/o Nordstream half the world dies and half goes to shit (both in food fertilizer and quality of life).
Going the old way all the world goes to shit and half still dies.

Last Edited by TerraFirma's Esoterrorist on 10/01/2022 06:04 PM
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drama queen, as if Russia is the only one with Gas lmao for fertilizer you dont need huuuuuuge amounts of gas....



Without artificial fertilizers made with natural gas

Earth can support a population of only 2 billion
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The US has vast deposits of natural gas.
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Was there in the shale. Yessiree Bob!
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They sell shoes also.
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They sell shoes also.
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I didn't know they sell gas in Europe.
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Without artificial fertilizers made with natural gas

Earth can support a population of only 2 billion
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Ridiculous statement. Care to back this up with evidence?
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
Haber process

Google it
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'They' ??? You mean the US/UK.....yes??


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drama queen, as if Russia is the only one with Gas lmao for fertilizer you dont need huuuuuuge amounts of gas....



Without artificial fertilizers made with natural gas

Earth can support a population of only 2 billion
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You're an idiot.
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
Putin has stated that he will sell the west russian fertilizer. I think Potatohead Biden made a carve out for it in the sanctions, so we can still buy it, and he even encouraged companies to buy it.

Trinidad also makes a lot of fertilizer and I believe they restarted a plant to increase production.

By the way, if we get desparate, humans make fertilizer. Urine and human #2 are both excellent fertilizers. Just do something to kill pathogens first.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/01/2022 08:06 PM
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
guess people dont remember the old ways of making fertilizer ?

no gas used for that then......

so no drama here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84299568


The old way could only feed less than half the population we currently have.

Half the population of the planet going bye-bye, would be I assure you...dramatic.
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It's ALL on JOE and Toe!! Everything those idiot fools do, leads to the further destruction of the earth

drevil
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
guess people dont remember the old ways of making fertilizer ?

no gas used for that then......

so no drama here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84299568


The old way could only feed less than half the population we currently have.

Half the population of the planet going bye-bye, would be I assure you...dramatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79889820


It's ALL on JOE and Toe!! Everything those idiot fools do, leads to the further destruction of the earth

drevil
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We could also ask Kim Jong Un.
I hear he is our most staunch ally in the world!
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Haber process

Google it
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Yeah, this seems bad, and fitting with the PTB wanting to depopulate the world...
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
We could do it without chemical fertilizers.
But food prices would have to go up dramatically and farms would have to be small. Animal agriculture and plant agriculture would have to be combined once again.
.it's a rough road between where we are now and where we would need to be. The #1 obstacle is the governments.
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
well better then nothing right ?
also .... ever heard of hydroponic farming heh works great no fertilizer that needs gas here.

i have it myself works fine.



guess people dont remember the old ways of making fertilizer ?

no gas used for that then......

so no drama here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84299568


The old way could only feed less than half the population we currently have.

Half the population of the planet going bye-bye, would be I assure you...dramatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79889820

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Sure thing DiCaprio.

dicaprio-agree
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Re: Nordstrom natural gas = fertilizer .... they just caused starvation of much of Europe and world
Without artificial fertilizers made with natural gas

Earth can support a population of only 2 billion
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Says who?

Bill Gates?
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Give everyone two cows pronto!!!

Start gardening!!!!

Use organic fertilizers.

Like dead fish and seaweed.
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Give everyone access to public lands and start gardening?????


Is that impossible?


Why?
How?
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Give everyone access to public lands and start gardening?????


Is that impossible?


Why?
How?
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Every inch of human occupied land, can and should be used for Permacultures. It's not 'rocket appliances'. Let the farmers ranch.
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