How far back in time does pre-history stretch? Let's start with Mayan Astronomy - Sumerian Kings List + Pat Travers page 4

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The problem I have with a 12,000-year catastrophic cycle is it doesn't allow enough time for humanity to recover and get the point that we could build megalithic rock structures.

We know we started to come out of the last ice age expansion about 13,000 years ago and then we temporarily re-entered one, leaving us about 10,000 years to get to where we are now which is simply the skyscraper age - woefully short of building megalithic rock pyramids and platforms.

The following simple illustration shows us the better part of an 800,000-year Stone Age.

Now the vital part of this illustration is the boxed off last 50,000-year part. This IMO is the solar micro-nova cycle that we are stuck in - the recurring cycle. Otherwise, we'd continue to progress rather than being reset by our sun.

https://imgur.com/naj2PVy

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^^^ this tells me the cycle is larger and maybe quite a bit larger.

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You can go to ancient temples in India right now and see carved in stone walls, totems, ceilings, floors, columns and caves and cliffs the visuals of how to perform abortions, c-sections, cranial surgery, amputations, how they used plants for medicine, all kinds of advanced stuff that current "historians" say was only created very recently.

It's all a lie.
Somebody taught the people of ancient India how to do these things. And current science KNOWS it.
I personally believe in the fallen bastard Angels who taught these things to people back in the day which led up to the flood and God chaining a few of them under rivers and mountains in pits.

And now archaeologists are suddenly finding and digging up ancient churches and temples and other worship sites and there's no telling what those sites are covering up and why they were buried but I believe they were meant to STAY buried.

My opinion, based on rigorous decades of study, is the ancient temples were built before the last ice age. That's one full catastrophic cycle back in time.

BUT they could have been built in previous cycles before that because they are "intentionally" megalithic to withstand the cycles of destruction.

For whatever reason, in this cycle, this timeline, man created organized religion and adopted the ancient Temple layout for their churches, mosques and synagogues.
We know this because the ancient mosque kibla's don't point to Mecca or Jerusalem - rather they point to the Ancient Rock Hewn city of Petra.
What likely happened was after the last cycle of destruction people came out from their safety caves like in Derinkuyu, Turkey and they went to the old sites and rebuilt over the base foundation or in some case refurbished what was still standing (in the case of megalithic based structures with smaller stone walls, non-megalithic in total).

These below could be 200,000 years old. No one really knows for sure.

https://imgur.com/VG2AbJa

This modern cathedral, by comparison, details architecture seen on cave entrances and temples in India from structures that could be just as old.

Because it was a ONE age of megalithic construction.

https://imgur.com/apO8Ece

Anyone here know how these were built and WHY?

https://imgur.com/VG2AbJa

Anyone ??

31,754 B.C.

IMO there has to be a cataclysmic event either on Earth or within our solar system or both that came before the pyramids.
And the pyramids (archaic monuments) would be the memorials to the cataclysm as well as teaching tools - to teach us about it and why so many reflect our solar system. This is intended to help humanity within each cycle, where the monuments are still standing, to assist us with our technological development.

Why would they do that?
Because they knew the cycle is relatively short considering each time we must re-emerge from an ice age and then start over constructing with sticks, then sticks and mud, then mud clay bricks, then small blocks and finally megalithic blocks. Have we achieved that last milestone? I don't think so.

Personally, I think it's been a very long time since the megaliths were originally built.

The cataclysm happens, which could be years in the making when survival begins - during this obvious build-up storms become monsters and we're thrown halfway back into stone age. Then the solar micro-nova crescendo hits and it's full-on ice age and the beginning of the new, next stone age.

How long does that ice age expansion last? 20,000 maybe 25,000 years? When earth finally starts to warm, we're still trying to survive, and it'll be another 10,000 before we can build a skyscraper.

That'd account for a 31-40,000 year cycle.



Cataclysms bury Temples like Gobekli Tepe - I don't think man had anything to do with their burial. Other sites were also wrecked and buried in mud.

It's interesting you bring up fallen angels and the teaching of man. Some type of supernatural beings.

We shouldn't be surprised that this is similar with the Egyptian Kings List. It's derived first as Gods then demi-gods and then finally flesh and blood humans ruling Egypt.

Hmm?? Who made who? Who stole who's mythology??

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Wish you could join me for a fireside chat and wait for “the pasta to stick to wall” while challenging our minds one day about our past ages… I have been researching this for decades now.

There is an escaping remnant each time. Elucidated from three sources: The 1860 KJV; the Codex Argenteus; and the Great Pyramid; all three share a similar timeline. The one coming up is our last overlap. The end of time is the destruction of aggregate matter.



Remember, Chan Thomas said: "Less than one percent of all life survives. What do these people have? Neither a pencil to write with nor a shovel to dig with. Their clothing lasts only three months, so they're forced to use stone tools, skins for clothes, caves for living. They are intelligent enough to do what it takes to survive by going back to a Stone Age to survive. It's their offspring that they don't have time to educate who get stupid. And their grandchildren and their grandchildren's grandchildren."



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Thanks for the interaction Nemesis8, much appreciated.

Yes! Survival is one thing but retaining the knowledge from the prior age is another.

This is why we believe certain cultures like Native Americans rely so heavily on Oral Traditions. These can be used while isolated in a cave system when kids are no longer being taught reading and writing.

The sequester in safety locations underground against an unhospitable Earth surface will last for Generations.

Most don't understand this problem.

But first some Tower of Babel.
God came down and confused the language because they were either speaking one language or about to as if that would matter lol.

What the story is really revealing is that the Tower of Babel civilization was a highly advanced one. Advanced enough to the point that they had digital translators like we are starting to use providing a virtual one-world language opportunity.

It can also reflect how the archaic monuments all spoke (speak) the same language (math, geometry, sacred geometry and astronomy) - with the Pillar of Enoch (Great Pyramid) being the King!

When the cataclysm comes no one is able to do much of anything but try to survive.
But there are very creative ways to teach kids important history and world events. Again, the Native American culture is very good at this by implementing animals their 'creation' and 'flood' myth stories.
Other cultures used card games and nursery rhymes.

Anyhoo, it'll be a real biotch and it's coming - we are living in the final decades, but longer than say Vogt says.
Great time to be alive to witness the very end of the cycle.

Earth will ROCK!

I'm pretty sure the c i a co-opted 'The Adam and Eve Story' but much of it is pretty good realistic.

;)

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I don't understand this comment. Is it sarcasm?

i believe the sumerians did a few 100,000 years.

Less than one percent of all life survives. That would be approximately 80 million people or so. None of them could just start fresh? I love thinking about these things, but it just doesn't make sense to me that civilization needs to start from scratch after every cataclysm.

It's not sarcasm.

As advanced as we are we cannot re-create any of the megalithic monuments, with perhaps a few exceptions and they wouldn't be easy.

It's taken us 10,000 years to build skyscrapers which last what? - maybe 200 years?? That's the blink of an eye for megalithic stone monuments.

It's the mother of all cataclysms. Not simply a VEI-7 volcanic eruption as an example or two at once. That's an inconvenience for many but nothing like what's coming back around.

Okay, thanks. I'll simply counter with the idea that this current civilization isn't interested in building stone megalithic structures because....why? We could if we wanted to, but there's no reason to.

Great conversation (way better than who should start at QB for Atlanta) so, what do you think is coming back around?

You're right we aren't interested because they would be HIGHLY expensive and little ROI AND we couldn't if we wanted too.

Both can be true.

The Mother of All Cataclysms. One that required an advanced civilization to build megalithic monuments.

That's the exclamation point. But I don't expect everyone to get it. Too many belief systems at play right now.

Have you ever pondered why a civilization would build so many of them??

Just the Temples in India alone are masterpieces.

Great thread OP. And totally agree there is no way we could fully duplicate the megalithic constructs. We may be able to make sad replicas, or even create them digitally, the real thing will never be duplicated.

I've always wondered why ancient civilizations built those structures. To my knowledge that question (WHY) has never been answered.

I don't understand why you would say that. We could build them bigger, more precise, align them to whatever stars or celestial bodies that we want, and we could also put them on a rotating base that would keep them in perfect alignment with those celestial bodies taking into account the Earth's wobble which none of those megaliths could do.

As I mentioned India has extremely advanced stone craftmanship - mind-blown so. But why and how?

As good as those are the Great Pyramid is still the best for several reasons.

The casing stones weighed between 10 to 16 tons each. That's the cladding that gave the pyramid a shiny smooth surface. The reason they are varied weights is because the skeletal stones underneath are staggered. They staggered them to make the pyramid as earthquake proof as possible and it's a testament to it standing today after ALL these years - perhaps 100,000 years ??
The front of the casing stones all have the same face and angle. The varied weight comes from the backs where they fit the staggered skeleton.

Pretty effin clever - but 144,000 casing stones and there's no way the ancient Egyptians shipped that weight on the Nile with boats of Khufu's era.

144,000! Religious folks will recognize that number.

That's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the engineering of G1.

Let's back up a minute.

The Great Pyramid is built over a hill - the limestone bedrock was a hill on the Giza plateau.
They didn't level the hill, instead they incorporated it into the base.

Around the portion of the hill that was incorpoated into the center of the base - 13 acres are leveled to less than one inch accuracy. Probably close to 5/8th of one inch.

How many buildings do we construct today with a 13-acre base?

AND there's an ancient spring at the top of the hill. Likely why they picked that site.

The pyramid is almost dead-on true north - off by 3/60th of one degree.

There are over 100 courses of stone that make-up the pyramid. If even one level is not 100% squared the pyramid will end up as a corkscrew rather than a pyramid and yet the ancients knew they could do it - and likely a lot easier than we can today IF we could.

A Japanese Team tried to duplicate a small version and were caught cheating at night - major fail.

Why 3/60th of a degree off of true north?

Sacred geometry of circling the square - 3/60 is 360 degree.

Who builds like that today.

Answer: No one!

Here's why they built the pyramid over an ancient spring. No one has ever done this before or after.

Second half of this video - minutes 4 to 8

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not that video^^


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I'll go one better. The Ancients built some of the megaliths to align with the Solstice Sun.

The Solstice sun moves along the horizon over vast periods of time, unlike the Equinox sun which always rises due east and sets due west.

What this means is the Ancients had to calculate when the solstice sun would align with their monuments NOW.

How'd they do? Dead spot-on.

Why are they aligned to Solstice now? Because we are at the end of the cycle !!!

That's great engineering. Ancient engineering and another thing we aren't doing today.

Humanity builds monuments to memorialize something.

What were the archaic monuments built to memorialize?

Please consider that Aztecs, as an example, lacked the technology to build the great works in south-central Mexico and many indigenous have said when approached by early explorers that they did not build the things that academia credits them with today.

Also consider that the two most common recognized symbols at these great archaic works are the sun and the serpent.

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In the US we have memorials to the Civil War with Generals on horseback. These are monuments to an event in history.

In the simplest terms the size and number of the monuments could depict the size of an event - relating the impact in history.

Certainly, the U.S. Civil War had a huge impact on one countries history.

There are an estimated 10,000 pyramid Temple complexes in Central America alone - Ten Thousand.

The Archaic Monuments are everywhere (global), and it can be recognized that there are at least a couple hundred large popular sites like Chichen Itza, Giza Pyramids and Angkor Wat.

The question remains then: To what event in history do we need to apply the size and scope of these Monuments to?

Would a recurring, cyclical solar micro-nova fit the bill?

Answer: Yes!

What I want to know is WHY a 13 ft slab of Limestone covering the cenote?

Limestone can create energy and transmit energy..

Was it so that the dead could enter the underworld and they can pass through Limestone? Or some other means of use for the Limestone?
Maybe even meditation, Energy harvesting of some sort from the cenote captured within the Limestone? hmm