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Why does it look like the Cargo ship Turned into the bridge? VIDEO

 
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From a expert he said they could of dropped anchors out the back and stopped in about 300 yds, 3 football fields. Did they have time ?
Power quit and they called it in, police were notified and halted traffic.

What was the time window from power loss to impact ?

The VDR knows ...
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The anchor that dropped was not located in the back.. its in the front.
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OMG Exactly!
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master hack mayar the russian destruction
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Nobody on any thread can answer why ANY ACTION was taken once the power goes the first time.
All operations should have ceased..
And the logic of my statement is clearly bolstered as the ship loses power AGAIN after taking action.
Had the ship shut down and drifted it would have gone nowhere near the bridge.
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Computers hacked to run into bridge that's only 10 miles from Joe bidens white house. Coincidence??
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Key bridge isn't anywhere near the White House. More like 50 miles away.
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The Key Bridge is only 10 blocks from the White House.
Just not THAT Key Bridge.
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Right, but we have people on here who are obviously from overseas or flyover country who seem to think the White House is in Baltimore.

The Baltimore Key Bridge is in the suburbs south of the Baltimore inner harbor adjacent to some rundown neighborhoods and a sizeable, half abandoned industrial area that harkens back to the 90s and earlier before Baltimore went Detroit when all the factories shut down.
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2 miles to White House from Key Bridge.
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hesright
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I don't think a ship that large and heavy could turn that fast unless it dropped anchor and reversed at the same time do to a panicked crew :/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84089107


...but remember, this video is not actual speed, they had plenty of time to adjust course
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What you are seeing is NOT the ship moving under any sort of piloted control.. you are seeing it dragging the anchor that dropped out of the front right of the ship. (thats why it slowed from 8kts to 1.5kts before impact). As the engine powers back up-- the rear of the ship pushes the back end while the front is restricted by the anchor resulting in the apparent "turn".
 Quoting: MaximusRex


Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would pull the ship in the opposite direction from where it hit if they went full reverse woul it not? The only way for that trajectory to have continued is of the thrust was still forward, no?
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Dropped anchor.. Case closed.
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Port side exhaust black smoke indicates port side was gunned. My theory is they tried to hard reverse port which would have pulled the bow to port in an attempt to miss the pilon.....just a theory
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It sure does look like the cargo ship turned into the bridge




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 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


Lack of proper maintenance/equipment failure ?
Incompetence?
Sabotage?
Deliberate?

I haven't seen enough evidence to convince me yet, but I can unequivocally say this doesn't smell right. 👀👀👀
 Quoting: Shark Hunter


Its all clear in this video that at the last few seconds the ship got power again and started making a hard to port turn to avoid the bridge pillar
 Quoting: YEA Eoreris


That's a sound hypothesis.

Add to add to it, it was after the 1st power outage that he ship took a turn toward the pylon.
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its the

dropped chains automatically on blackout [ and what caused the blackout at exactly that time [ theory]

somebody knew chain length on right chain was long enough to catch the right approach piling [ as seen from the bridge]
and would swing the ships bow exactly into the support piling

which should be , by design nearly impossible unless the shop loses power at and exact point and the anchors drop automatically

in the CG video , it looks like the right ship side where the anchor chain would be , looks ripped out as if the chain caught , swung the ship and then [ probably broke]

still in no way precludes terrorism , but power loss..

just would be some dam clever trrorist to have thought this one up

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I don't think a ship that large and heavy could turn that fast unless it dropped anchor and reversed at the same time do to a panicked crew :/
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...but remember, this video is not actual speed, they had plenty of time to adjust course
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23665959


What you are seeing is NOT the ship moving under any sort of piloted control.. you are seeing it dragging the anchor that dropped out of the front right of the ship. (thats why it slowed from 8kts to 1.5kts before impact). As the engine powers back up-- the rear of the ship pushes the back end while the front is restricted by the anchor resulting in the apparent "turn".
 Quoting: MaximusRex


Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would pull the ship in the opposite direction from where it hit if they went full reverse woul it not? The only way for that trajectory to have continued is of the thrust was still forward, no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86964648


The engines did not fail or quit. Just watch the video. The engines never stop belching out thick black smoke! The engines did not lose power. The msm is also spouting this same engine failure nonsense.
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Just a coincidence I guess….
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...but remember, this video is not actual speed, they had plenty of time to adjust course
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What you are seeing is NOT the ship moving under any sort of piloted control.. you are seeing it dragging the anchor that dropped out of the front right of the ship. (thats why it slowed from 8kts to 1.5kts before impact). As the engine powers back up-- the rear of the ship pushes the back end while the front is restricted by the anchor resulting in the apparent "turn".
 Quoting: MaximusRex


Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would pull the ship in the opposite direction from where it hit if they went full reverse woul it not? The only way for that trajectory to have continued is of the thrust was still forward, no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86964648


The engines did not fail or quit. Just watch the video. The engines never stop belching out thick black smoke! The engines did not lose power. The msm is also spouting this same engine failure nonsense.
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They also claimed immediately that the black smoke was engine failure…. lol
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Port side exhaust black smoke indicates port side was gunned. My theory is they tried to hard reverse port which would have pulled the bow to port in an attempt to miss the pilon.....just a theory
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Agree. Investigation will hopefully get to the bottom of it.
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There is more than one engine on that boat
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There is more than one engine on that boat
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If they lost power...the steering would fail during the time the power was out.

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Key bridge isn't anywhere near the White House. More like 50 miles away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86964648


The Key Bridge is only 10 blocks from the White House.
Just not THAT Key Bridge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74137121


Right, but we have people on here who are obviously from overseas or flyover country who seem to think the White House is in Baltimore.

The Baltimore Key Bridge is in the suburbs south of the Baltimore inner harbor adjacent to some rundown neighborhoods and a sizeable, half abandoned industrial area that harkens back to the 90s and earlier before Baltimore went Detroit when all the factories shut down.
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2 miles to White House from Key Bridge.
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Yes. A different Key Bridge.
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Its all clear in this video that at the last few seconds the ship got power again and started making a hard to port turn to avoid the bridge pillar
 Quoting: YEA Eoreris



it wasn't avoiding, it was correcting the slight oversteer
of the first power on to ensure a hit.

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This is true no anchor
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


Yep, absolutely no anchor dropped in this video.. nor one dropped that made it slow miraculously slow down from 8 kts to 1.5 kts right before it hit the bridge (insert sarcasm).

You do realize that ships are tracked online in realtime just like Flightradar?


 Quoting: MaximusRex


so there was no anchor but the vessel was able to reduce speed from 8 kt.5 to 1.5 that quickly? got it.

Dumb ass....
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo


I was being sarcastic-- of course there was an anchor dropped. Its in the video and is the only explanation for it slowing down.
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i know you were. i meant One Sweet World. hf
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As others are saying, the black smoke indicates the engines were fine and just at full power, whether it was full power to intentionally hit or trying to reverse or evade is up for debate.
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What you are seeing is NOT the ship moving under any sort of piloted control.. you are seeing it dragging the anchor that dropped out of the front right of the ship. (thats why it slowed from 8kts to 1.5kts before impact). As the engine powers back up-- the rear of the ship pushes the back end while the front is restricted by the anchor resulting in the apparent "turn".
 Quoting: MaximusRex


Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would pull the ship in the opposite direction from where it hit if they went full reverse woul it not? The only way for that trajectory to have continued is of the thrust was still forward, no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86964648


The engines did not fail or quit. Just watch the video. The engines never stop belching out thick black smoke! The engines did not lose power. The msm is also spouting this same engine failure nonsense.
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They also claimed immediately that the black smoke was engine failure…. lol
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LOL! If an engine is not running how does it belch out thick black smoke exhaust?
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There is more than one engine on that boat
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If they lost power...all engines would go out.
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diesel engines require power to run?
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hesright
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I don't think a ship that large and heavy could turn that fast unless it dropped anchor and reversed at the same time do to a panicked crew :/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84089107


...but remember, this video is not actual speed, they had plenty of time to adjust course
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23665959


Yes, and it took the Titanic 2 miles to come to a full stop after in hit an iceberg.
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And you can see from the videos that the ship was NOT pointed at the support when it initially lost power . So, if they dropped anchor at that time it would have dragged in whatever direction it was already going. The ship may very well have grounded on the side of the Patapsco River but wasn't actually pointed AT the bridge until the power came back on.

There doesn't seem to be any plausible reason for the ship to turn once the power is back on unless the systems on board commanded it. They would not have restarted the engines under full throttle. After the power was restored the ship would still be listless on its own.

I'm not buying the story. Doesn't add up. Video pretty clearly shows them ramming the support IMHO. They hit that thing AT SPEED. The ship didn't speed up by itself.

Not claiming to be a shipping professional but I don't believe there is no way to disable automatic control, either. Pretty much every piece of commercial machinery ever made has a manual override. If there was a compromise, the crew should have recognized that, disabled the automation (I bet there is a BIG red button somewhere on that bridge) and manually haulted the ship until they could figure out what was wrong.

Hell, I have a whiz-bang Fandango rangers self driving car and there is still a button on the steering wheel that immediately disables ALL driving automation.
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There is more than one engine on that boat
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If they lost power...all engines would go out.
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diesel engines require power to run?
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Ummmmm no
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Its all clear in this video that at the last few seconds the ship got power again and started making a hard to port turn to avoid the bridge pillar
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it wasn't avoiding, it was correcting the slight oversteer
of the first power on to ensure a hit.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80497187


Exactly , clearly to see the correction so the vessel hit the pillar
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The Key Bridge is only 10 blocks from the White House.
Just not THAT Key Bridge.
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Right, but we have people on here who are obviously from overseas or flyover country who seem to think the White House is in Baltimore.

The Baltimore Key Bridge is in the suburbs south of the Baltimore inner harbor adjacent to some rundown neighborhoods and a sizeable, half abandoned industrial area that harkens back to the 90s and earlier before Baltimore went Detroit when all the factories shut down.
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2 miles to White House from Key Bridge.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Yes. A different Key Bridge.
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The destroyed bridge is Francis Scott Key bridge not simply the Key bridge. Ya know the guy that wrote The Star Spangled Banner.
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There is more than one engine on that boat
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If they lost power...all engines would go out.
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diesel engines require power to run?
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No, diesel engines do not require electricity.
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to the mind that knows statistical odds‚ it was deliberate.

believe in 1 in a million odds if you like.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80497187


What most people dont realize-- the ship is so fucking long, that if its not going straight under that section of bridge.. there is a risk already that it will take out the bridge. The ship is nearly 1000ft, and the largest section of the bridge is 1200ft. Drop anchor or not.. it was going to take the bridge out.
 Quoting: MaximusRex


There is no excuse or explanation for why operations were not immediately ceased when the power goes out.
If a plane preparing to take off loses power momentarily it does not continue after it is restored.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74137121


And with what imaginary brakes would have stopped the ship then to prevent this? The crash is literally the result of a cease of operations.
 Quoting: MaximusRex


Boat appears to be operational at time of impact to me. Fully lit... Smokestacks billowing... Trajectory changing...

It's almost like someone was driving the boat and drove it straight into a bridge!
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There is more than one engine on that boat
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If they lost power...all engines would go out.
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diesel engines require power to run?
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Ummmmm no
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LMAO!! don't you love burning people?
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Remember Obama and 911 as his wining Catchphrase.
Now biden can try to win with 263 !
Did any one See the second Boat hit the other tower?
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It sure does look like the cargo ship turned into the bridge




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 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


my wife says I am stupid to believe this was deliberate. She knows nothing about physics, or probability or likelihood. Given that the cargo ship hit the one place that could do the most damage must have been by accident. no tugs, an accident. no trained pilot, an accident. All kinds of governments benefitting from this, an accident, of course.

Maybe the dropped anchor pulled it around to hit the most vulnerable part of the bridge.

Who here knows about bridges, port of baltimore procedures, and or huge ass cargo ships?
 Quoting: DrPunch


there are 2 tugs that travel along with each large vessel down the bay which takes about 8 hours.

the pilot/port masters board and help the Capt and crew navigate the entire bay. they swap at each leg of the trip.
but i dont know bridges, just what i see each time we sail down the bay.





GLP