Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 576138 United States 12/20/2008 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81 United States 12/20/2008 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it was so easy to dupe the majority of sheep over chemtrails, nobody believes it enough, therefore they are brazened in their attempts and do not care now who sees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 576138Kinda like buildings falling at freefall speeds on 911. That worked on the brainwashed by their TV sheeple, too. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 554023 United States 12/20/2008 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok what im seeing now and seen in every chemtrail topic thread is believers and none believers duking it out. Quoting: Mr MordenThere is no "hard" evidence that it is and no "hard" evidence that it dosent. And it wont come out until someone breaks into an airfield and takes photos or an whistle blower. Only real evidence of governments spraying its own population is the British. So lets meet on common ground, lets discuss WHAT would be the use of chemtrails, its purpose. I think people hare have imagination and some hint of fantasy. could it be for global warming? to create or halt. is it to spoil the local water sources? Crops? Spread diseases? block out the suns rays to make us more acceptable to disease? Could it be used with scalar weaponry? what do you think? My theory is population control. The Bush/Nazi outfit has been running all the black ops since WWII. It may have been stepped up because they have only a few weeks left. Mr. Kunz would you elaborate. |
G. House User ID: 575188 United States 12/21/2008 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me that if there were a nefarious operation of this magnitude going on for a decade SOMEBODY somewhere along the line would have dropped a dime with the details-like where these planes are based, where the chemicals are being shipped from on the ground, what the specific purpose is. There would be photographs of the planes taking off with the spraying mechanisms visible, photos of the chemicals being shipped on the ground, All I see are pictures of contrails, clouds and planes in the distance. And that's presupposing it's some kind of secret government operation. It's totally implausible to me that commercial aircraft are being used for this and all the details haven't been leaked. Quoting: PB 548017Excellent post! "Everybody lies." |
G. House User ID: 575188 United States 12/21/2008 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's classified. Anybody who tries to leak, goes to prison or dies. It's that simple. Quoting: PB 548017I guess I have all the information I need on this subject. It's classified and they kill anybody who talks. The Illuminati had this planned back in the eighties down to who was going to win the World Series. UFOs and strange orbs are involved in the spraying. Anybody who doesn't believe must be a secret agent. Anyway, Merry Christmas to everyone from my basement--or, if you prefer, from all the guys down at the Agency where we're having a big office party with a lot of hot chicks from the Russian Illuminati! You must be lower level disinfo. I'm going to the shape-shifting reptilian (the entities behind EVERYTHING) party. They are having some captured chemtrail believers as entries. "Everybody lies." |
G. House User ID: 575188 United States 12/21/2008 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My theory is population control. The Bush/Nazi outfit has been running all the black ops since WWII. It may have been stepped up because they have only a few weeks left. Mr. Kunz would you elaborate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023The total death rate in the US has been decreasing since 1979. According to chemtards we have been being sprayed for well over a decade. So... Is this just another FAILED government program that just doesn't work? We should be protesting over yet more wated tax dollars don't you think? Or is it just the sad truth that chemtards that think as you do are just delusional and don't really have the faintest clue of reality in any shape or form? "Everybody lies." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 554023 United States 12/21/2008 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My theory is population control. The Bush/Nazi outfit has been running all the black ops since WWII. It may have been stepped up because they have only a few weeks left. Mr. Kunz would you elaborate. Quoting: G. HouseThe total death rate in the US has been decreasing since 1979. According to chemtards we have been being sprayed for well over a decade. So... Is this just another FAILED government program that just doesn't work? We should be protesting over yet more wated tax dollars don't you think? Or is it just the sad truth that chemtards that think as you do are just delusional and don't really have the faintest clue of reality in any shape or form? Chronic illnesses resulting in death is their m.o. The outfit owns big pharma, disinfo-retard. How much stock do you own? |
Mr Morden User ID: 576936 Sweden 12/21/2008 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | death rate statistics [link to www.disastercenter.com] Did you ever have a job that you hated and worked real hard at? A long, hard day of work. Finally you get to go home, get in bed, close your eyes and immediately you wake up and realize... that the whole day at work had been a dream. It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free. The worst mistake that you can make is to think you're alive when really you're asleep in life's waiting room. |
G. House User ID: 575188 United States 12/21/2008 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My theory is population control. The Bush/Nazi outfit has been running all the black ops since WWII. It may have been stepped up because they have only a few weeks left. Mr. Kunz would you elaborate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023The total death rate in the US has been decreasing since 1979. According to chemtards we have been being sprayed for well over a decade. So... Is this just another FAILED government program that just doesn't work? We should be protesting over yet more wated tax dollars don't you think? Or is it just the sad truth that chemtards that think as you do are just delusional and don't really have the faintest clue of reality in any shape or form? Chronic illnesses resulting in death is their m.o. The outfit owns big pharma, disinfo-retard. How much stock do you own? Uh, well... You have to die of something don't you? Facts are though that in the long run less people per thousand die now than 40 years ago. Chemtrails apparently don't work worth a damn as a mass murder/genocide method. "Everybody lies." |
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Da Swede User ID: 577126 Sweden 12/21/2008 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imageevent.com] There are lies, damned lies and 9-11! [link to bryce2-2u.freeservers.com] |
G. House User ID: 575188 United States 12/21/2008 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Da Swede Well sometimes they did: 1967 - Plate 113 from A Colour Guide to Clouds, Richard Scorer and Harry Wexler. Shows over 30 contrails, some criss-crossing: [link to contrailscience.com] "Everybody lies." |
Da Swede User ID: 577126 Sweden 12/21/2008 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dedicate this vid to all shills and debunkers.. There are lies, damned lies and 9-11! [link to bryce2-2u.freeservers.com] |
Fickle is as Fickle does. User ID: 549482 United States 12/21/2008 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the local weathermen and women that I tuned into today to see what they would say about the skies above said nary a word about the abundant high thin cirrus clouds that were above. Thats all there was up there..chemtrails...er, uh aerosols..er uh..whatever. It looked like a Dr. Suess inspired scenery. They did say, however, that we would see clear skies and that the air would be very, very dry. The sundog thingy with the chembow halo effect was happening as well. |
TEXAS U NCENSORED User ID: 577241 United States 12/21/2008 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The black trails are not shadows. The black trails are black, and the white trails are white. Simple. Example, these two trails, both on top of the cloudship, not shadowed in any way. [link to picasaweb.google.com] In the Houston area, the planes doing the spraying are based out of Ellington AFB. The major media affiliates here followed, and confronted someone overseeing the op. the report was aired, along with the reaction of the man on base who demanded they turn off the cameras and leave. Also, in my part of town, commercial traffic is almost non existent. The trails are not caused by commercial craft. After watching the rare commercial jet with no trail, flying a path near the chemtrail plane, it is abundantly clear that weather conditions are not the factor. I photo daily, and have for almost two years. I know what I am seeing, and photographing. I have posted in this thread clear evidence that UFO's are involved in the chemtrailing, suggesting to me that it has more to do with UFO presence than anything else. And, once again, debunkers are trying to tell goverment agencies that they don't exist and neither does the legislation they passed, or the patents on the books. They exist. Ask Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson about it. She runs it. The question now should be, why ? We the People are paying for it. So, it's time that we are told the why of it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 577203 United States 12/21/2008 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but how do you feel about eventually facing the truth.Please answer truthfully if you are able. Quoting: Duncan KunzAs you can see from my post above, when I make mistakes, I own them. Since you and I obviously have different ideas on what is "truth", I doubt you will ever be in a position to admit the "truth" one way or another. Not able op. |
TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 577241 United States 12/21/2008 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The jig's up. The government admits it, defines it, and legislates it. Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 572681H.R.2995 [link to www.govtrack.us] Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005 [link to www.theorator.com] Related Legislation [link to www.chemtrails911.com] TAP Tropospheric Aerosol Program [link to www.chemtrails911.com] Rep. Kucinich's HR 2977 Names Chemtrails As An 'Exotic Weapon' , [link to www.rense.com] The HOLMESTEAD - Chemtrails- Holmestead - Discovery Channel ... [link to www.holmestead.ca] Matrix News Network Chemtrails Page [link to www.outtheretv.com] Tropospheric Aerosol Program (TAP) [link to search.yahoo.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 549482 United States 12/21/2008 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The black trails are not shadows. The black trails are black, and the white trails are white. Simple. Quoting: TEXAS U NCENSORED 577241Example, these two trails, both on top of the cloudship, not shadowed in any way. [link to picasaweb.google.com] In the Houston area, the planes doing the spraying are based out of Ellington AFB. The major media affiliates here followed, and confronted someone overseeing the op. the report was aired, along with the reaction of the man on base who demanded they turn off the cameras and leave. Also, in my part of town, commercial traffic is almost non existent. The trails are not caused by commercial craft. After watching the rare commercial jet with no trail, flying a path near the chemtrail plane, it is abundantly clear that weather conditions are not the factor. I photo daily, and have for almost two years. I know what I am seeing, and photographing. I have posted in this thread clear evidence that UFO's are involved in the chemtrailing, suggesting to me that it has more to do with UFO presence than anything else. And, once again, debunkers are trying to tell goverment agencies that they don't exist and neither does the legislation they passed, or the patents on the books. They exist. Ask Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson about it. She runs it. The question now should be, why ? We the People are paying for it. So, it's time that we are told the why of it. OMG TU, thats a trail in an shadowed area. THIS ISSUE IS FODDER FOR DEBUNKERS. trust me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 549482 United States 12/21/2008 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: TEXAS U NCENSORED 577241I photo daily, and have for almost two years. I know what I am seeing, and photographing. I have posted in this thread clear evidence that UFO's are involved in the chemtrailing, suggesting to me that it has more to do with UFO presence than anything else. I have been studying this and capturing video and photographing this for nearly twenty years now. I dont discount the UFO thing due to my experiences..but doubt the CT thing is purely dedicated to UFO stuff. |
TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 577241 United States 12/21/2008 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 549482, it was not in a shadowed area. There was nothing above it, therefore nothing to create a shadow. There was no shadow beneath it. Back to elementary school science for you. As to the UFO involvement, how much of the chemtrail thing is related to it, I can not say. But, on a day with no jets flying chemtrails, and UFO's are, an alliance that uses chemtrails for whatever their purpose is obvious. Logically, there would be no reason for UFO's to fly chemtrails unless it has to do with their purposes, and the governments lack of funds for chemtrails. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 549482 United States 12/22/2008 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 549482, it was not in a shadowed area. There was nothing above it, therefore nothing to create a shadow. There was no shadow beneath it. Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 577241Back to elementary school science for you. As to the UFO involvement, how much of the chemtrail thing is related to it, I can not say. But, on a day with no jets flying chemtrails, and UFO's are, an alliance that uses chemtrails for whatever their purpose is obvious. Logically, there would be no reason for UFO's to fly chemtrails unless it has to do with their purposes, and the governments lack of funds for chemtrails. You do not understand what you are seeing. No need to try and humiliate me. Thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 548161 United States 12/22/2008 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for what it is worth...most likely nothing...I read on some site, sometime ago, that the UFOs were friendlies...and they were trying to "fix" or neutralize the harmful chemtrails... I know that for many of you a "friendly" ET may seem impossible, but lots of them live here too, and these chemicals are not good for any living thing. I believe, that they are mostly for weather modification (Mainly in the US) and sprayed all over the world! and that the were used to spray nanos (morgelons) to see if they couldn't introduce some agent into our bloodstream to control us better (dr Monreau's island)which went terribly wrong... but they can and will be used to spread disease...and what is in them now is, no doubt breaking down our immune systems...so they serve multiple purposes granted pollution is high due to populations...but when EVERYONE has some sort sinus or lung problem, there is more to it than that, especially when they live in the country. I agree 100% with this guys POV I too spent time from 50's to 80's laying in the grass and looking up at the sky. I saw my share of contrails that broke up and disappeared quickly. Then in the 90's I began seeing the chemtrails that didn't disappear. All the chemtrails would come together and form wispy clouds that shimmered with irridescent colors of the rainbow. I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails and nobody is going to convince me they are one and the same. |
TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 577241 United States 12/22/2008 03:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 549482, it was not in a shadowed area. There was nothing above it, therefore nothing to create a shadow. There was no shadow beneath it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 549482Back to elementary school science for you. As to the UFO involvement, how much of the chemtrail thing is related to it, I can not say. But, on a day with no jets flying chemtrails, and UFO's are, an alliance that uses chemtrails for whatever their purpose is obvious. Logically, there would be no reason for UFO's to fly chemtrails unless it has to do with their purposes, and the governments lack of funds for chemtrails. You do not understand what you are seeing. No need to try and humiliate me. Thanks. I know very well what I am seeing. A 152 IQ means I understand things most people don't even notice. So, no need for you to attempt to humiliate me. I have been doing research for quite a while now. After six years on AFB's, a year on a Naval Base, and with two close relatives at the Pentagon, and a close friend who was a fighter pilot, I can assure you that my assessment is from an educated, experienced viewpoint. You are dismissing the govaerment's own admission of legislation, agencies, patents, and admitted usage of chemtrails. You might as well go through life believing the sun rotates around the earth. Chemtrails are real,both black and white. |
Zephyros User ID: 562066 New Zealand 12/22/2008 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your well connected position, experience, education and research have not helped to to understand that: 1) The legislation you cited above (actually bills not Acts) are about the protection of the atmosphere and oceans, 2) Kucinich's infamous HR 2977 only mentioned "chemtrails" in its first draft, the 3 subsequent drafts did not, and it was never passed in to legislation as an Act, 3) The Tropospheric Aerosol Program (TAP) was about studying the influence of tropospheric aerosols on the radiation budget. These things have been pointed out to you in other threads, but you continue to copy-and-paste them as posts, or quote yourself doing so. Stop it; it's not helping you. However TEXAS UNCENSORED, you do know how to cook chicken, and I thank you for your contribution to the culinary arts in that particular speciality. Thread: Has anyone ever unraveled the KFC recipe In the same spirit as Da Swede's dedication above, I dedicate this passage to all those who believe "chemtrails" are real, and don't understand what they are seeing, or that the conditions that determine the appearance of contrails are those at flight level and not on the ground. Aircraft exhaust may trigger cloud formation in two ways, either directly or indirectly. In the direct case, a contrail forms immediately behind the aircraft. This requires a special thermodynamic state of the atmosphere, especially low (<43 degC) temperatures at typical flight altitudes (~250 hPa, 35000 ft). After a short (about 1 s) initial growth stage, the contrail will evaporate within tens of seconds if the air is dry. In contrast, contrail growth will continue in background air that is supersaturated with respect to ice. Eventually, the line-shaped contrail may transform into a cirrus cloud... from the second paragraph of the Introduction to "On the Transition of Contrails into Cirrus Clouds" (Volume 57, Issue 4, February 2000, Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences) [link to ams.allenpress.com] I wish you and everyone a safe and happy Christmas and New Years. ~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 549482 United States 12/22/2008 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 549482, it was not in a shadowed area. There was nothing above it, therefore nothing to create a shadow. There was no shadow beneath it. Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 577241Back to elementary school science for you. As to the UFO involvement, how much of the chemtrail thing is related to it, I can not say. But, on a day with no jets flying chemtrails, and UFO's are, an alliance that uses chemtrails for whatever their purpose is obvious. Logically, there would be no reason for UFO's to fly chemtrails unless it has to do with their purposes, and the governments lack of funds for chemtrails. You do not understand what you are seeing. No need to try and humiliate me. Thanks. I know very well what I am seeing. A 152 IQ means I understand things most people don't even notice. So, no need for you to attempt to humiliate me. I have been doing research for quite a while now. After six years on AFB's, a year on a Naval Base, and with two close relatives at the Pentagon, and a close friend who was a fighter pilot, I can assure you that my assessment is from an educated, experienced viewpoint. You are dismissing the govaerment's own admission of legislation, agencies, patents, and admitted usage of chemtrails. You might as well go through life believing the sun rotates around the earth. Chemtrails are real,both black and white. Oh paleeeze. :can opener: |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 577724 United States 12/22/2008 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 549482, regardless of what your opinion is of something you did not see happening, you weren't there. I watched the planes do this. I saw the spray they were trailing. I photo'd as it was happening. I photo'd what was happening as it was happening. I did not look up and say, "OMG, what are are those?", after the fact. Had the planes and chemtrails of both colors created shadows, there would have been 2 light, and 2 dark, for a total of 4 lines with shadows. But, that is not the case. Two aircraft, two trails, one white, & one black & white, photo'd as they were being sprayed. Period. I would suggest to you that you take your own photos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 549482 United States 12/22/2008 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 549482, regardless of what your opinion is of something you did not see happening, you weren't there. Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 577724I watched the planes do this. I saw the spray they were trailing. I photo'd as it was happening. I photo'd what was happening as it was happening. I did not look up and say, "OMG, what are are those?", after the fact. Had the planes and chemtrails of both colors created shadows, there would have been 2 light, and 2 dark, for a total of 4 lines with shadows. But, that is not the case. Two aircraft, two trails, one white, & one black & white, photo'd as they were being sprayed. Period. I would suggest to you that you take your own photos. You are not helping the cause. |