Could gas fields off coast of Gaza be a factor behind Israel's incursion???

And you call them a moron.






GOG and Gaia won't try to explain the USS Liberty incident and how that is not terrorism. They're blinded by their own stupidity.

Good post, and there are no doubts in my mind that this is just a piece of it.



Okay MORON I am so tired of this crap that I WILL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. The USS Liberty was a ship packed with high level electronic spying equipment which was laying off the coast of Israel during the '67 war I believe. The Liberty was conveying Israeli communications with its armed forces to the Egyptians who just happen to be opposing the Israelis. Now let me ask you does an Ally which the US is of Israel do such things and the answer is yes! We were playing both sides! The Israelis got pissed and understandably so because the Egyptians did not have the ability to intercept and decode these communications. This information could be costing Israeli lives at the least and perhaps the whole war at the worst. What would you have done in a similar situation? Notice while the US lodged a complaint with the Israeli Gov the whole incident went no further because the US did not want its activities exposed.

Jonathin Pollard incident same thing. Allies constantly spy on one another to make sure the alliances are real. We do it they do it GET USED TO IT. The problem is it is embarassing when they are exposed.



This is entirely incorrect. Have you even read about ANYTHING related to the USS Liberty, or are you spewing what you heard from Time magazine?

Yawn....

First of all BG's agreement to develop that small gas field was with the PA, the PA are gone, in case you don't keep track of current events. Israel owns an adjoining gas field, from your own article even, BG is giving over the rights to Israel for that one. Israel has a major gas company in partnership with Egypt...EMG or close to that it's called, they just started pumping billions of cubic ft per year to Israel last may I beleive. Egypt has about 81 times as much gas availible as that entire field has in total reserve, and the key word there is availible. 1tcf is not that much as far as energy goes, look something up and don't be like the other paste monkeys, you have a brain, use it. Israel doesn't need it, doesn't really want it and if they did? they pretty much already have it..it's also old news, people were bitchin about it in 2006...whaaa Why are we egyptions selling gas to Israel...blah blah,,,SOS.

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Yawn....

First of all BG's agreement to develop that small gas field was with the PA, the PA are gone, in case you don't keep track of current events. Israel owns an adjoining gas field, from your own article even, BG is giving over the rights to Israel for that one. Israel has a major gas company in partnership with Egypt...EMG or close to that it's called, they just started pumping billions of cubic ft per year to Israel last may I beleive. Egypt has about 81 times as much gas availible as that entire field has in total reserve, and the key word there is availible. 1tcf is not that much as far as energy goes, look something up and don't be like the other paste monkeys, you have a brain, use it. Israel doesn't need it, doesn't really want it and if they did? they pretty much already have it..it's also old news, people were bitchin about it in 2006...whaaa Why are we egyptions selling gas to Israel...blah blah,,,SOS.

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Israel doesn't need what? The gas?

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The Israel Oil & Gas Report 2008
...Israel's real GDP growth is now forecast at an unchanged 5.1% in 2007. We assume 3.6% growth in 2008, 2.8% in 2009, 2.5% in 2010 and 2.4% in 2011. We expect oil demand to rise from 281,000b/d in 2006 to 303,000b/d in 2011, although the state would like to minimise dependency on imports and exploit fully the country's modest gas resources. A lack of serious upstream prospects and limited international oil company (IOC) participation means Israel is likely to continue importing virtually all the oil needed to supply its domestic refineries. Domestic gas production and consumption are expected to rise following the start-up of the Tethys Sea project, with up to 9bcm of supply and demand by 2011. ...

I said "That" gas, it's a small field, 1 tcf, bout 2.8 bcm. Israel already has a 32bcm project right off the coast like 5 miles from there, Tethys Sea, with an American company. They just sold some contracts too. They have a huge gas conglemarate with egypt that has massive reserves, one the earths top 20 and that company has already sold over twice what the total capacity of the TS project is, decades supplies. As I said before, they already own the rights to about 40% of that same field because it's in their terratory and not GAZA's. It's not developed and if they wanted it? they already own almost half anyway....seriously you're grasping at straws that do not exist and well over half of your reply concerns oil which GAZA has none of and the rise in consumption is partially due to Israels own increased output of NG via the TS project...so what is the reason to go and kick HAMAS' ass for gas again?... even your OP is 3 1/2 years old and aside from the actual figures of what exists? not much of it is even relevent anymore.

They are NOT wrong. Iran has to cease it's armageddonist posture on Israel, especially in light of it's "peaceful nuclear project" - IF they ever want to be taken seriously by the first world. As for the Swiss, well - they have been complicit in MAJOR Nazi property crime against Jews, and the notion of "evil is not neutral" has special meaning where they are concerned..


Ah, there ya go. Nazis in the closet again...a 60 year old closet at that. Well, there were Jews who collaberated with those Nazis, and there were Jews who actually WERE Nazis. I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but you sure don't want anyone talking about that.

Meanwhile, HERE AND NOW, Gaza is being razed by Israel...inch by squeezed inch...and innocent people are being murdered in Gaza by the IDF. It's just that clear and that simple. It very much appears to be about something bigger than just the side-walk busting rockets from Hamas.

Nice try on the gas thing - but your just guessing (and wishing)..

I sometimes get a mocking tone with people who blindly launch off into orgasmic blabbering because of political or ideological reasons without giving any thought to actually looking at something in some sort of depth when I know they can do better. Some I don't expect much from because I know they just don't have any more.

Well, I don't know how you come to that conclusion. I know you're pushing your "Israel is trying to steal Gaza's gas" idea - but those "sidewalk busting rockets from Gaza" are MORE than enough to justify israel's offensive against Hamas..

If there IS something bigger going on - it's that Hamas (and Iran) has lost the confidence of the Arab world, and no longer has the well-being of the Palestinian people in mind - OR longer term Arab/Muslim aspirations..


Nice try on the gas thing - but your just guessing (and wishing)..

I sometimes get a mocking tone with people who blindly launch off into orgasmic blabbering because of political or ideological reasons without giving any thought to actually looking at something in some sort of depth when I know they can do better. Some I don't expect much from because I know they just don't have any more.



"...Without giving thought to actually looking at something in some sort of depth"...and you accuse RHSC, of all posters, of failing in this area?? Seriously? LMAO

Red, don't forget your informative research thread on this related topic from 2007:

**** Oil and Israel **** Israel to be transport route for M.E. and C.Asian. oil?

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I sometimes get a mocking tone with people who blindly launch off into orgasmic blabbering because of political or ideological reasons without giving any thought to actually looking at something in some sort of depth when I know they can do better. Some I don't expect much from because I know they just don't have any more.


"...Without giving thought to actually looking at something in some sort of depth"...and you accuse RHSC, of all posters, of failing in this area?? Seriously? LMAO

Red, don't forget your informative research thread on this related topic from 2007:

**** Oil and Israel **** Israel to be transport route for M.E. and C.Asian. oil?

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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And it was "intercepting all sides" as Israel often does to this date to monitor. Israel was paranoid, USA has always stood behind them, any fool knows this.

I said "That" gas, it's a small field, 1 tcf, bout 2.8 bcm. Israel already has a 32bcm project right off the coast like 5 miles from there, Tethys Sea, with an American company. They just sold some contracts too. They have a huge gas conglemarate with egypt that has massive reserves, one the earths top 20 and that company has already sold over twice what the total capacity of the TS project is, decades supplies. As I said before, they already own the rights to about 40% of that same field because it's in their terratory and not GAZA's. It's not developed and if they wanted it? they already own almost half anyway....seriously you're grasping at straws that do not exist and well over half of your reply concerns oil which GAZA has none of and the rise in consumption is partially due to Israels own increased output of NG via the TS project...so what is the reason to go and kick HAMAS' ass for gas again?... even your OP is 3 1/2 years old and aside from the actual figures of what exists? not much of it is even relevent anymore.


You are on my case about data and proof. I know you appear to know your stuff, but mind linking some of it?

And no, the OP isn't 3 1/2 years old. The thread is today, I gleaned the information from the original AC (noted appropriately), and I posted THREE segments and a link to a map. ALL of it is from today, but the AC built on a foundation of information. I'm sure you noticed, right? You DID read the entire 3 pieces, right?

Then again it may have something to do with the Hamas charter...Hamas' charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian Islamic state in the area that is now Israel

What does oil have to do with this?

The thread might be today, but the article is from Source: United Press 7/21/2005, Location: Africa Gas Processing

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That's an interesting thing to consider OP.

Remember that Dick Cheney's original plan for the middle east called for a gas pipeline to go all the way to Israel (after we've "secured the realm" over there).

Cheney claimed it wasn't true, but as usual he was simply lying. It is true and the problem is they keep blowing it up as it is being built.

Funny that Cheney's last and most recent trip was directly to areas where gas pipelines would originate. Bet he's got that all sewn up.