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Evolution vs creation ID question

 
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Hindus are just eastern Catholics. They have the same beliefs, the objects and icons have just been renamed, as with Islam. It is all Mythraism. Christianity on the other hand is something completely different.



You care to explain , Hindus have millions of demigods where does this tie in to the catholic faith ?


It was new to me too. That video series details the similarities. I didn't take very good notes, but it was striking. Obviously Hindu predates Catholicism. It all connects to Babylon and Mythraism.

catholics venerate saints
which would correlate with the many gods of hinduism
the New Testament does not support this view



Thats different, hindus venerate saints, demigods are different, demigods are like a heavenly government each one has a particular role within the material creation, and are worshipped accordingly.
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saints are dead people
they would correlate to someone in "heaven"
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Did you or the Pope even read Genesis ? GOD commanded the land to produce plants.It does Not say anywhere GOD created ants himself.The land did so it is possible some sort of evolution occured .None of that dinosaur become a chicken "theory"Because evolution is not a science its just a theory.
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Genesis speaks of all created things being spoken into being on various days
except for Adam, who was formed from the red dust of the earth by God
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I am none of those religions and I think both evolution and creation have points to them.... I do not even see them as opposing, but more tunnel vision. either or is just more polarity....
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christianity is nothing
because it means nothing
people of many contradicting beliefs call themselves "christians"


Yes they do, but if they have other gods then they are not christian. The first commandment of God is to have no other gods.

"Christianity is nothing" is like saying science and history are nothing. One day you will be a nothing.
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many so called "christians" have many gods
the things which they own
and the titles they claim for themselves
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christianity is nothing
because it means nothing
people of many contradicting beliefs call themselves "christians"


Yes they do, but if they have other gods then they are not christian. The first commandment of God is to have no other gods.

"Christianity is nothing" is like saying science and history are nothing. One day you will be a nothing.
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it's a label
and that is nothing
at least, nothing tangible
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I was just wondering how the creationist justify there views when they contradict the highest earthly christian authority, as well as all logical reasoning.



The pope certainly isn't considered to be "the highest earthly christian authority" to a bible believer.

I'd call him the most visible bible perverter.

Don't mean to sound so harsh, but that is the truth.

Why was America formed? It was formed by bible believers who wanted to get away from all that.

That is why America to this day has the largest concentration of bible literalists in the world.
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i wouldn't say "literalists"
since we believe the Holy Spirit is needed to interpret scripture
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I am none of those religions and I think both evolution and creation have points to them.... I do not even see them as opposing, but more tunnel vision. either or is just more polarity....
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that's why you make sense
you don't feel the need to be "right"
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I am none of those religions and I think both evolution and creation have points to them.... I do not even see them as opposing, but more tunnel vision. either or is just more polarity....

that's why you make sense
you don't feel the need to be "right"
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more like uninquisitive. creation (6000 year old earth) and evolution are completley at odds. To think both could be right is cognitive discinence in the extreme. To belive both could partly right is silly too. Why would god create a universe capable of evolution, capable of sponanteously creating its own life and then go "oh fuck it , I will just magic stuff into existance"
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Simple, the universe was CREATED to EVOLVE.
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more like uninquisitive. creation (6000 year old earth) and evolution are completley at odds.
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Where do they get that the earth is only 6,000 years old?


I know they figure 1,000 years is ONE day in God's time, but even then, he finished creating the earth on the 6th day (year 6,000)...


and we all know 1,000's of more years have passed since then.

Consider that Jesus was born 2,000 or so years ago...
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the real answer is known, but nobody wants to recognize it. the real answer is simply past most peoples ability to synthesize. i would tell you, but you don,t want to know. A HINT. ITS IN A KINDA WAY BOTH.
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darwin is not completely wrong, nor is the church. neither is completely right either. its a story that would take us right back to the singularity.
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evolution theory was funded by the banksters who bought up all the media back in the 1930s when for pennies on the dollar when the stock market crashed.

nothing gets heard on a wide scale without the approval of the men and their money machiens to back it all....

the media is controlled. part of that control is the lie of evolution theory brainwashing the masses from 1920s on....

you people are falling for the biggest lie of all history,evolution theory is bunk science, nnot even science byut a hypothesis, not even a theory....

anyone can do a googel "creation science" and find oodles of strong scientific date backing creation.

one sees only what one wants to
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more like uninquisitive. creation (6000 year old earth) and evolution are completley at odds.


Where do they get that the earth is only 6,000 years old?


I know they figure 1,000 years is ONE day in God's time, but even then, he finished creating the earth on the 6th day (year 6,000)...


and we all know 1,000's of more years have passed since then.

Consider that Jesus was born 2,000 or so years ago...
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The thousand year for a day principle is applied to prophetic time, creation is the account of given history. The 6000 years is added from the generations given.
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the singularity split to become the two and the two begot the third and from the third all things were possible. i am not making that up, it came from some text. can anyone tell me where i got that from? not a trick question, i really don,t remember. the singularity is of course the divine conscience or god. {or the fractal of all fractals}
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I am none of those religions and I think both evolution and creation have points to them.... I do not even see them as opposing, but more tunnel vision. either or is just more polarity....

that's why you make sense
you don't feel the need to be "right"

more like uninquisitive. creation (6000 year old earth) and evolution are completley at odds. To think both could be right is cognitive discinence in the extreme. To belive both could partly right is silly too. Why would god create a universe capable of evolution, capable of sponanteously creating its own life and then go "oh fuck it , I will just magic stuff into existance"
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it doesn't say how old the earth is in the Bible
some people claim that the days in Genesis are solar days (which isn't logical)
the sun wasn't even created until the 4th day
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Re: Evolution vs creation ID question
more like uninquisitive. creation (6000 year old earth) and evolution are completley at odds.


Where do they get that the earth is only 6,000 years old?


I know they figure 1,000 years is ONE day in God's time, but even then, he finished creating the earth on the 6th day (year 6,000)...


and we all know 1,000's of more years have passed since then.

Consider that Jesus was born 2,000 or so years ago...


The thousand year for a day principle is applied to prophetic time, creation is the account of given history. The 6000 years is added from the generations given.
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that only measures the time from
Adam's creation
not from the very beginning
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evolution theory was funded by the banksters who bought up all the media back in the 1930s when for pennies on the dollar when the stock market crashed.

nothing gets heard on a wide scale without the approval of the men and their money machiens to back it all....

the media is controlled. part of that control is the lie of evolution theory brainwashing the masses from 1920s on....

you people are falling for the biggest lie of all history,evolution theory is bunk science, nnot even science byut a hypothesis, not even a theory....

anyone can do a googel "creation science" and find oodles of strong scientific date backing creation.

one sees only what one wants to
 Quoting: weatherbill

exactly. one sees only what one wants to. the answer is known but nobody can accept it. its not really that hard. it will make both sides happy in a sense.
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most of the people on this thread have no idea of our real history. it is very difficult for them to even begin to understand the real answer. i should give up. but... it is known and it is quite magical and beautiful.
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the singularity split to become the two and the two begot the third and from the third all things were possible. i am not making that up, it came from some text. can anyone tell me where i got that from? not a trick question, i really don,t remember. the singularity is of course the divine conscience or god. {or the fractal of all fractals}
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The birth of souls from God's Spirit (the ONE) burst forth our souls not unlike the Big Bang.


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more like uninquisitive. creation (6000 year old earth) and evolution are completley at odds.


Where do they get that the earth is only 6,000 years old?


I know they figure 1,000 years is ONE day in God's time, but even then, he finished creating the earth on the 6th day (year 6,000)...


and we all know 1,000's of more years have passed since then.

Consider that Jesus was born 2,000 or so years ago...


The thousand year for a day principle is applied to prophetic time, creation is the account of given history. The 6000 years is added from the generations given.

that only measures the time from
Adam's creation
not from the very beginning
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It was the very beginning, and that is what science shows.

The earth was never in a molten state. Caveman never existed. These are textbook fictions.
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more like uninquisitive. creation (6000 year old earth) and evolution are completley at odds.


Where do they get that the earth is only 6,000 years old?


I know they figure 1,000 years is ONE day in God's time, but even then, he finished creating the earth on the 6th day (year 6,000)...


and we all know 1,000's of more years have passed since then.

Consider that Jesus was born 2,000 or so years ago...


The thousand year for a day principle is applied to prophetic time, creation is the account of given history. The 6000 years is added from the generations given.

that only measures the time from
Adam's creation
not from the very beginning


It was the very beginning, and that is what science shows.

The earth was never in a molten state. Caveman never existed. These are textbook fictions.
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cavemen still exist
and the earth was covered in water, according to Genesis
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We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.
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For those who believe in intellegent design and creationism.

Does it not bother you that the current pope and the two before him have gone on record stating that evolution is entirely consistant with gods work and that the evidence for it is so overwhelming that they also say that talk of creationism or intellegent design is plainly wrong.

Most christians are catholic and therefore most accept evolution. Its only in america that ID or creationism is even mentioned. It is never even discussed in europe except in reference to the religious right of america.

Or are they part of a conspiracy???
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It doesn't bother me. I consider myself a Catholic but believe God almighty are a extra terrestrial race. If the pope wants to believe in evolution then my mother said it's fine to keep an open mind. It doesnt change my idea that Catholism works for me.
Question authority every time. Ask them how that makes them feel. Ask them why? Ask them when you have an opinion with your opinion and question them with that! There is no being with ALL THE answers accept for God. Even still question. But trust if it's all good and loving then follow with your full heart believing. For the light will always be the light. It makes me a believer.
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We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.
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we weren't created faulty
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We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

we weren't created faulty
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It was the very beginning, and that is what science shows.

The earth was never in a molten state. Caveman never existed. These are textbook fictions.
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Ah! The great deluge and the evidence that supports the deluge and Noah's arc. That would mean that every human is mixed with Lilith's Adam's Eve's dedcendants being on the ship. Cain had many wives and daughters and sons and Seth had many sisters he partook in and had children as well...


Then there's his kids to grand kids and Noah mixed the grand children of cain and seth and put them on the arc to pro create.
Question authority every time. Ask them how that makes them feel. Ask them why? Ask them when you have an opinion with your opinion and question them with that! There is no being with ALL THE answers accept for God. Even still question. But trust if it's all good and loving then follow with your full heart believing. For the light will always be the light. It makes me a believer.
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We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

we weren't created faulty
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well at least Adam's and Lilith's were...
Question authority every time. Ask them how that makes them feel. Ask them why? Ask them when you have an opinion with your opinion and question them with that! There is no being with ALL THE answers accept for God. Even still question. But trust if it's all good and loving then follow with your full heart believing. For the light will always be the light. It makes me a believer.
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The earth was never in a molten state. Caveman never existed. These are textbook fictions.

cavemen still exist
and the earth was covered in water, according to Genesis
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The earth was covered in water according to science too. Science confirms the Bible.

The textbook claims of cavemen are just that unproven claims and fabrication.
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We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

we weren't created faulty

well at least Adam's and Lilith's were...
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There was no satanic breeding going on with genderless angels.

Adam and Eve had Cain and Able, and many after that.

Cain's offspring were drowned in the flood.

We're not corrupt with satanic seed. Steve Quayle is a kook.





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