ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 7

and, yes its like the days of Noah - he was ridiculed for warning others. he gave up this and began preparing to save his family. and he was ridiculed for that. i bet he was called insane by people on the street.

That is from the bible, a religious belief based on faith in a god.

i cant be 100% sure she is right. i have no way of proving it even to myself. so far i had no basis to say Nancy is completely wrong.


Simple, take a ball and hold it out, let it go, does it fall to the ground, yes that is gravity.

Now Nancy claims Px is "hovering" between the Sun and Venus and has been there for more than 5 years, the sun has enormous gravity and just like the ball Nancy's planet would have fallen to the surface of the sun.

Would you like to try to tell us how Px is supposed to "float" above the sun?


if it does, then our science is flawed and wrong!

So tell me Andrew, how does Px "float" next to the sun without being sucked down by gravity?

that is also typical of debunkers - they cling to written word, demand link, reference to literature or some authority


So, how is this supposed to be a bad thing? Facts are much more valuable than fantasy.

The FACT is that Nancy has never once...NEVER ONCE...get it?...gotten ANYTHING right. Analyze ANY prediction or claim she's ever made and you will see that she FAILED.

If you thihk differently, then perhaps YOU can produce just one instance of a truth from all of zt. The rest of the bunkers have been trying for months now and haven't been able to do it. Let's see how you do.


if i and other supporters "dont get it" that Nancy has never once gotten ANYTHING right, as you say, then maybe it is not so doubtless?


I see that you didn't answer the debunker's challenge. Maybe he's right that Nancy has never gotten anything right? If she had, then her followers would be jumping all over the challenge.


its senseless trying to prove something to one who refuses to aknowledge possibility, to admit facts, to recognize the facts for what it is

that is also typical of debunkers - they cling to written word, demand link, reference to literature or some authority


So, how is this supposed to be a bad thing? Facts are much more valuable than fantasy.


it is not facts, its these sources opinion

you can make your own, you can think for yourself

why do we not see wobble or Planet X? i dont know, (maybe we dont look good :))) but everything else we DO see


WHAT everything else? You haven't been specific on anything.


are you blind or disabled? this info is perfectly public, but it is given in tiny pieces, partitioned, so as not to form into visible trends, not to alarm the public.

you can go search and see it!

but it IS, NOW!
and crisis didnt come from nowhere in fall of 2008. it was there since at least 2005


Actually it had been predicted by people as far back as
2000. Nancy never talked about derivatives or a coming
housing bubble. THAT would have been impressive. Instead
there are dozens of others I can cite who were more accurate
that Nancy simply borrowed from.


she DID predict current downturn, globally:

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So is Nancy your god?

No, Rabbit, he is just cherrypicking what is satisfaczory to his belief and desire.

i insist on everything else - climate, weather, tides, quakes, volcanoes, tides, economy, fireballs

Lets take the economy, for example. I can show you where
Nancy claimed that inflation was "running rampant" in 2004!
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but it IS, NOW!

because it is not so significant. trends are obvious. and it is highly probable that we will see your desired long exposure wobble on cameras. but it will be too late then!


Nancy claims it is happening NOW. I can show you one
of her Zetatalk pages where she supports the claim that a
time lapse photo would show the North Star is out of place:
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That page is from 2004! So the "wobble" MUST be more pronounced.


But it isn't!


so what? I dont trust Nancy, if you wish to know that. i trust my eyes and ears and my understanding of things. knowing what she (or others) said i research for myself and decide what to believe.

maybe it is happening now, i also can be wrong.

but, having heard what she said i go and look for evidence. recently i started to see it, coming from mainstream media, in massive numbers.

and, btw, after you said that in your comment you condemn me of taking every Nancy's / Zeta word literally?

you are shooting your own foot

Do you know what the word "stubborn" means?

Sure you do not support nancy - you do only support yourself.

So tell me Andrew, how does Px "float" next to the sun without being sucked down by gravity?


if that doesnt fit with your or even common conventional concepts of science re how things work, so why shoud i care about it?

i'm "stubborn" because i refuse to agree with you?

im convinced and nothing swayed my opinion, so far

but, having heard what she said i go and look for evidence. recently i started to see it, coming from mainstream media, in massive numbers.


WHAT "evidence" are you talking about? You have been dancing around the issue for hours now and haven't yet been specific on anything. Obviously, if you are seeing things that convince you, then surely you can tell us what those things are.

You must know extremely little about how science operates. Science NEVER operates from a position of surety, but is constantly begging to be challenged. That's what the "scientific method" is all about. Go look it up.

And yes, if a claim is made that contradicts current experience, then extraordinary evidence is required to prove it. For instance, if you made the claim that you have seen a pig fly, then do you think that you should be believed simply because you said it? No...you would have to supply photographs of the phenomena. Then, others would have to work to reproduce it. Only once it was proven to be a fact would the textbooks be re-written describing how pigs indeed could fly.

if you truly wanted to see these facts it would not be a problem at all. i dont hold any special knowledge that noone else possesses

calling a claim "extraordinary" because it contradicts conventional science and demanding "extraordinary" proof for it, means that you and those directly involved with science believe that science knows all.

if it was not that way, you would not call a claim "extraordinary", but admit that your knowledge is limited and accept possibility that that claim could be true, even if it contradicts current conventional knowledge

science never proclaims that it knows everything, but it behaves exactly like it did. it ARGUES exactly if it did


You must know extremely little about how science operates. Science NEVER operates from a position of surety, but is constantly begging to be challenged. That's what the "scientific method" is all about. Go look it up.

And yes, if a claim is made that contradicts current experience, then extraordinary evidence is required to prove it. For instance, if you made the claim that you have seen a pig fly, then do you think that you should be believed simply because you said it? No...you would have to supply photographs of the phenomena. Then, others would have to work to reproduce it. Only once it was proven to be a fact would the textbooks be re-written describing how pigs indeed could fly.

You wouldn't know because you don't know what courage is.


Care to give me a "definition"???



The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery.

Your phony fence doesn't have any room for that.


What's "better"? FACING danger? or AVOIDING it??

There is no single answer to that question, and it is COMPLETELY circumstance dependant. This is where "convictions" get in the way - because a "conviction" is a pre-circumstantial decision about what the right response should be. The problem is, we end up "assuming" facts to make up for not knowing them. There is a VERY fine line between bravery and stupidity. What we call "brave" is often attached to an "all or nothing" frontal-charge form-of-action where total victory or total defeat is the outcome.

I REJECT THAT KIND OF ALL OR NOTHING THINKING. That kind of "bravery" is called for when AND ONLY WHEN there are no other viable alternatives to achieving your strategic objectives. You only get one death. To foolishly play that card on a poor or non-existant strategy based on some form of unproven indoctrination (such as expecting to live with 70 beautiful virgins in heaven if I strap bombs on myself and go blow up an Israeli checkpoint) is immature and unwise to say the least.

I have no desire to impail myself on someone's else agenda with them regarding me as nothing more than a "useful idiot" - which is what YOU would have me be.

Sorry - no sale.

calling a claim "extraordinary" because it contradicts conventional science and demanding "extraordinary" proof for it, means that you and those directly involved with science believe that science knows all.

if it was not that way, you would not call a claim "extraordinary", but admit that your knowledge is limited and accept possibility that that claim could be true, even if it contradicts current conventional knowledge

science never proclaims that it knows everything, but it behaves exactly like it did. it ARGUES exactly if it did


You must know extremely little about how science operates. Science NEVER operates from a position of surety, but is constantly begging to be challenged. That's what the "scientific method" is all about. Go look it up.

And yes, if a claim is made that contradicts current experience, then extraordinary evidence is required to prove it. For instance, if you made the claim that you have seen a pig fly, then do you think that you should be believed simply because you said it? No...you would have to supply photographs of the phenomena. Then, others would have to work to reproduce it. Only once it was proven to be a fact would the textbooks be re-written describing how pigs indeed could fly.


just remind yourself about meteorites, viruses, round Earth etc and Plate tectonics

(i accept Plate Tectonics, BUT disagree with slow movements - these happen abruptly during pole shifts, and its source is Planet X dragging the core, crust sliding resulting in bumping plates)

What's "better"? FACING danger? or AVOIDING it??

There is no single answer to that question, and it is COMPLETELY circumstance dependant. This is where "convictions" get in the way - because a "conviction" is a pre-circumstantial decision about what the right response should be. The problem is, we end up "assuming" facts to make up for not knowing them. There is a VERY fine line between bravery and stupidity. What we call "brave" is often attached to an "all or nothing" frontal-charge form-of-action where total victory or total defeat is the outcome.

I REJECT THAT KIND OF ALL OR NOTHING THINKING. That kind of "bravery" is called for when AND ONLY WHEN there are no other viable alternatives to achieving your strategic objectives. You only get one death. To foolishly play that card on a poor or non-existant strategy based on some form of unproven indoctrination (such as expecting to live with 70 beautiful virgins in heaven if I strap bombs on myself and go blow up an Israeli checkpoint) is immature and unwise to say the least.

I have no desire to impail myself on someone's else agenda with them regarding me as nothing more than a "useful idiot" - which is what YOU would have me be.

Sorry - no sale.

cannot science prove that there is no unicorn in that garage?


Yes, simple, take a couple of people with common sense and look in the garage.

Same goes for Nancy's claims for Px, common sense tells you it cannot "float" near the sun.

Can you tell about how we get the answers from Zetas? You read question in this chat than they “read’ it in your head and unswer us, do not they? But did they read my minds and correct their answer according to my true intentions? So they take into consideration my intention and the possible reaction of other readers and give the answer to satisfy everybody, do not they?

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There are 6.5 billion humans on the Earth, but only you know the "truth", yet you cannot answer simple questions about how this is supposed to happen.

So have you talked to zetas? do you have a chip in your head?

And you STILL refuse to put forth any of those supposed "facts" that convince you that Nancy is right. It obviously has you scared shitless that the "facts" cannot be supported.

that is also typical of debunkers - they cling to written word, demand link, reference to literature or some authority


So, how is this supposed to be a bad thing? Facts are much more valuable than fantasy.


it is not facts, its these sources opinion

you can make your own, you can think for yourself


You sure aren't. You have been told what to think by Nancy and you're towing the line. And again, you're avoiding stating what "facts" you are talking about that show Nancy to be correct.

i'm "stubborn" because i refuse to agree with you?

im convinced and nothing swayed my opinion, so far


So has your life stopped like Freestore's as he sits in his "shelter"? Do you have a wife and children? If you do and there in no Px in 2012 will you still believe in Nancy and forsake your family?

You see, such belief is destructive, it will kill your soul because you have nothing to live for just like Freestore.

It is true the world is in trouble because of the damage done by humans, but you owe it to your children and grandchildren to try to make this world a better place.

Whats wrong Andrew too scared to answer my question?

Where is Planet X at?