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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States 02/09/2010 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Propylene Glycol is the primary ingredient in anti-freeze and destroys the nervous system of humans and animals when applied topically, and completely destroys the renal system when ingested. This product should not be allowed to be used in or on humans! But guess where it shows up? EVERYWHERE! Most baby wipes and cosmetics have it, also frosting, and cake mixes! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States 02/09/2010 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... There is no link, BUT two years ago this happened to my leg. It was mid-summer I was using babywipes to cleanse a small cut on my leg, I used them several times a day, and this small cut kept getting worse and wherever I used the wipes this redness that looked like a mild FEB infection started appearing and spreading! After about two weeks when it had covered about 1/8 of my leg, I realized that it might be the wipes themselves that were causing the spread. I looked up the ingredients and sure enough, PG was the main indredient next to water. The effects of PG listed this as a possibility. I discontinued using the wipes and my cut and leg fully recovered, but it took about 2 more weeks after that. That's when I started posted this possibility for others to consider. I have heard of two other cases similar to mine. Don't use baby wipes with PG, it's harmful to the skin. No proof, just high suspicion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 743215 United Kingdom 04/07/2010 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... You guys are NUTS. Propylene Glycol is used as the solvent that they dissolve many intravenous medications in. That means, it's so safe for humans, you can inject it directly into your veins. Of course if you consumed massive amounts of it you would die. You will also die if you consume massive amounts of water. Get a grip? Yikes. P.S. Why are you using it to sterilise a cut? Use some 6% peroxide. Crazy! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 717934 United States 04/07/2010 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Propylene Glycol is the primary ingredient in anti-freeze and destroys the nervous system of humans and animals when applied topically, and completely destroys the renal system when ingested. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247684This product should not be allowed to be used in or on humans! But guess where it shows up? EVERYWHERE! Most baby wipes and cosmetics have it, also frosting, and cake mixes! The shit is in ice cream. I was at a party at a friend's house and she brings out a tub of ice cream and I look at the label. I announced to the group that the ice cream contains anti-freeze and if anyone didn't believe me, just go search propylene glycol on the internet. No one cared and they wolfed down the ice cream anyway. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 265764 United States 04/07/2010 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Propylene Glycol is the primary ingredient in anti-freeze and destroys the nervous system of humans and animals when applied topically, and completely destroys the renal system when ingested. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247684This product should not be allowed to be used in or on humans! But guess where it shows up? EVERYWHERE! Most baby wipes and cosmetics have it, also frosting, and cake mixes! Actually, it "Ethylene Glycol" that you find in anti-freeze. |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 922003 United Kingdom 04/07/2010 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Propylene Glycol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 265764Actually, it "Ethylene Glycol" that you find in anti-freeze. Correct, that is the chemical they are getting confused with, but both are used in actuality. It depends on the anti freeze brand though, Ethylene Glycol is the dangerously toxic chemical Propylene Glycol is basically safe, it would be easier to kill yourself with caffeine from food produces than propylene glycol from food products. But watch out, dihydrogen monoxide is coming to get you! Atheist |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936759 Canada 04/07/2010 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... You guys are NUTS. Propylene Glycol is used as the solvent that they dissolve many intravenous medications in. That means, it's so safe for humans, you can inject it directly into your veins. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743215Of course if you consumed massive amounts of it you would die. You will also die if you consume massive amounts of water. Get a grip? Yikes. P.S. Why are you using it to sterilise a cut? Use some 6% peroxide. Crazy! The medical systems structure is built to kill or hook us to their ''treatments''. You're a fucking Dumbassfor comparing water and the propylene , the main component of antifreeze. Words fail to describe your stupidity. [link to antiagingchoices.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936759 Canada 04/07/2010 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Propylene Glycol Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopActually, it "Ethylene Glycol" that you find in anti-freeze. Correct, that is the chemical they are getting confused with, but both are used in actuality. It depends on the anti freeze brand though, Ethylene Glycol is the dangerously toxic chemical Propylene Glycol is basically safe, it would be easier to kill yourself with caffeine from food produces than propylene glycol from food products. But watch out, dihydrogen monoxide is coming to get you! Fool , the name has been changed on purpose to mislead peoples , using a slight different processing both are similar and both extremely toxic. So many fucking idiots,shills here. |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 922003 United Kingdom 04/07/2010 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Fool , the name has been changed on purpose to mislead peoples , using a slight different processing both are similar and both extremely toxic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936759So many fucking idiots,shills here. No, you are just spreading fear based on bullshit and associations with similar sounding chemicals names, its a different chemical. You know like Ethane, Methane,. 'ane' in chemical naming denotes two carbon atoms bonded with a single bond, 'ene' denotes double bonds. The prefixes of chemicals such as meth, eth, pro, pent, dec all denote numbers and types of carbon bonds in organic chemistry. Propylene is also called Propene, the gycol is two hydroxyl groups on the molecule. Ethylene glycol and propylene glycol are different in the way water and hydrogen peroxide are different, YES they are related, but a very slight difference in chemical make up produces very different chemical behaviours. Try drinking a pint of hydrogen peroxide if you think similar chemicals have similar toxicities, by that logic hydrogen peroxide is no more toxic than ordinary water. Atheist |
zombieintraining User ID: 839757 United States 04/07/2010 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... There is no link, BUT two years ago this happened to my leg. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247684It was mid-summer I was using babywipes to cleanse a small cut on my leg, I used them several times a day, and this small cut kept getting worse and wherever I used the wipes this redness that looked like a mild FEB infection started appearing and spreading! After about two weeks when it had covered about 1/8 of my leg, I realized that it might be the wipes themselves that were causing the spread. I looked up the ingredients and sure enough, PG was the main indredient next to water. The effects of PG listed this as a possibility. I discontinued using the wipes and my cut and leg fully recovered, but it took about 2 more weeks after that. That's when I started posted this possibility for others to consider. I have heard of two other cases similar to mine. Don't use baby wipes with PG, it's harmful to the skin. No proof, just high suspicion. You're basing all of this on one personal experience. Not scientific, no proof, you are a tard. |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 922003 United Kingdom 04/07/2010 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... both are similar Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936759In some regards yes. both extremely toxic Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936759No. Ethylene Glycol is the extremely toxic chemical, Propylene Glycol is a different and far less toxic chemical. Fool Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936759Let me get this right, im a fool, because i actually have some grasp of chemistry. So many fucking idiots,shills here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936759Let me get this right, i am also an idiot, and a shill because i dont agree with your naive, misunderstanding of scientific and chemical labeling nomenclature. You know what i say, come back when you actually know something about science instead of spreading bullshit on the internet. Atheist |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936759 Canada 04/07/2010 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Fool , the name has been changed on purpose to mislead peoples , using a slight different processing both are similar and both extremely toxic. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopSo many fucking idiots,shills here. No, you are just spreading fear based on bullshit and associations with similar sounding chemicals names, its a different chemical. You know like Ethane, Methane,. 'ane' in chemical naming denotes two carbon atoms bonded with a single bond, 'ene' denotes double bonds. The prefixes of chemicals such as meth, eth, pro, pent, dec all denote numbers and types of carbon bonds in organic chemistry. Propylene is also called Propene, the gycol is two hydroxyl groups on the molecule. Ethylene glycol and propylene glycol are different in the way water and hydrogen peroxide are different, YES they are related, but a very slight difference in chemical make up produces very different chemical behaviours. Try drinking a pint of hydrogen peroxide if you think similar chemicals have similar toxicities, by that logic hydrogen peroxide is no more toxic than ordinary water. Ethylene and propylene are petroleum derivatives. You know the same thing that destroy wildlife when leaked. Water and hydrogen peroxide(when in vegetables and fruits) are both natural and necessary to life. Your ''logic'' fail but hey feel free to choke down on some petroleum derivatives , we both know you're shilling. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936778 United States 04/07/2010 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Also propylene glycol breaks down into pyruvic acid in the human body which is converted into glucose. Now this might be a problem for diabetics but for everyone else its fine. Ethylene glycol on the other hand turns into oxalic acid which the liver cannot break down and will kill you. The antidote for ethylene glycol poisoning is ethanol though so some everclear will save you from it. It stops your liver from trying to metabolize the glycol and instead your liver metabolizes the ethanol causing the ethylene glycol to be elminated from your body before oxalic acid can be made. The more you know. |
Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 922003 United Kingdom 04/07/2010 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... There is no link, BUT two years ago this happened to my leg. Quoting: zombieintrainingIt was mid-summer I was using babywipes to cleanse a small cut on my leg, I used them several times a day, and this small cut kept getting worse and wherever I used the wipes this redness that looked like a mild FEB infection started appearing and spreading! After about two weeks when it had covered about 1/8 of my leg, I realized that it might be the wipes themselves that were causing the spread. I looked up the ingredients and sure enough, PG was the main indredient next to water. The effects of PG listed this as a possibility. I discontinued using the wipes and my cut and leg fully recovered, but it took about 2 more weeks after that. That's when I started posted this possibility for others to consider. I have heard of two other cases similar to mine. Don't use baby wipes with PG, it's harmful to the skin. No proof, just high suspicion. You're basing all of this on one personal experience. Not scientific, no proof, you are a tard. Thats a little bit unfair calling him a tard, the guy/gal probably has some kind of dermatitis and thinks the PG caused it, yes it will agrivate it because they have a skin condition. 99% of people dont have a problem with it, because 1% do does not mean it is dangerous. Some people cant go outside in the sunlight without blistering, does that mean the sunlight is dangerous, not really, i can be in high enough levels though, the same applies to chemical toxicity. You can kill yourself with too much water, its called drowning or electrolyte dilution/water intoxication... LOL. Last Edited by Atheist on 04/07/2010 10:28 AM Atheist |
Richard Strong User ID: 837852 United States 04/07/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Where were you with this info, OP in the recent pinned POO thread??? For fuck's sake, everyone was saying to carry wet wipes around to wipe your ass after shitting and now your telling me if i do a flesh eating bacteria will attack my bunghole???!! Fuck me runnin! I am Richardus Strongus. Father to a murdered 'Refreshtard' thread, Husband to a deleted Top 10 thread. I will have my vengeance on the Lightworkers ..in this life or the next. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936778 United States 04/07/2010 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Fool , the name has been changed on purpose to mislead peoples , using a slight different processing both are similar and both extremely toxic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936759So many fucking idiots,shills here. No, you are just spreading fear based on bullshit and associations with similar sounding chemicals names, its a different chemical. You know like Ethane, Methane,. 'ane' in chemical naming denotes two carbon atoms bonded with a single bond, 'ene' denotes double bonds. The prefixes of chemicals such as meth, eth, pro, pent, dec all denote numbers and types of carbon bonds in organic chemistry. Propylene is also called Propene, the gycol is two hydroxyl groups on the molecule. Ethylene glycol and propylene glycol are different in the way water and hydrogen peroxide are different, YES they are related, but a very slight difference in chemical make up produces very different chemical behaviours. Try drinking a pint of hydrogen peroxide if you think similar chemicals have similar toxicities, by that logic hydrogen peroxide is no more toxic than ordinary water. Ethylene and propylene are petroleum derivatives. You know the same thing that destroy wildlife when leaked. Water and hydrogen peroxide(when in vegetables and fruits) are both natural and necessary to life. Your ''logic'' fail but hey feel free to choke down on some petroleum derivatives , we both know you're shilling. This is true but you can make propylene glycol from plant derivatives as well. Also Tylenol is made from tar. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936759 Canada 04/07/2010 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... both are similar Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopIn some regards yes. both extremely toxic No. Ethylene Glycol is the extremely toxic chemical, Propylene Glycol is a different and far less toxic chemical. Fool Let me get this right, im a fool, because i actually have some grasp of chemistry. So many fucking idiots,shills here. Let me get this right, i am also an idiot, and a shill because i dont agree with your naive, misunderstanding of scientific and chemical labeling nomenclature. You know what i say, come back when you actually know something about science instead of spreading bullshit on the internet. Haha ,the only grasp you win is on the foolishness. |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 922003 United Kingdom 04/07/2010 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Also propylene glycol breaks down into pyruvic acid in the human body which is converted into glucose. Now this might be a problem for diabetics but for everyone else its fine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936778Ethylene glycol on the other hand turns into oxalic acid which the liver cannot break down and will kill you. The antidote for ethylene glycol poisoning is ethanol though so some everclear will save you from it. It stops your liver from trying to metabolize the glycol and instead your liver metabolizes the ethanol causing the ethylene glycol to be elminated from your body before oxalic acid can be made. Indeed, kind of ironic how the antidote to antifreeze poisoning is get really blind drunk, LOL. +1 for truth and scientific accuracy. Anything used on your skin to kill bacteria over a long period of time is a bad idea, you need more good bacteria to keep the bad bacteria in check. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936778Of course, this is what people need to understand, it is for this reason antibiotics should not be shoved down everybodies throat when they feel under the weather. Most antibiotics are developed from chemicals secreted by fungi, which inhibit kill or stop the growth of bacterial micro organisms, essentially you use one micro-organism to kill another. Atheist |
zombieintraining User ID: 839757 United States 04/07/2010 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Thats a little bit unfair calling him a tard, the guy/gal probably has some kind of dermatitus and thinks the PG caused it, yes it will agrivate it because they have a skin condition. Quoting: Dr.Walter.Bishop99% of people dont have a problem with it, because 1% do does not mean it is dangerous. Some people cant go outside in the sunlight without blistering, does that mean the sunlight is dangerous, not really, i can be in high enough levels though, the same applies to chemical toxicity. You can kill yourself with too much water, its called drowning or electrolyte dilution/water intoxication... LOL. Yes, he had an allergic reaction to something I. The wipes, because he already had a cut. You're not supposed to use babywipes on an open wound any ways. Common sense. You use first aid products. So, tard for using the wrong products on a cut. And tard for fear mongering. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 936778 United States 04/07/2010 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Also propylene glycol breaks down into pyruvic acid in the human body which is converted into glucose. Now this might be a problem for diabetics but for everyone else its fine. Quoting: Dr.Walter.BishopEthylene glycol on the other hand turns into oxalic acid which the liver cannot break down and will kill you. The antidote for ethylene glycol poisoning is ethanol though so some everclear will save you from it. It stops your liver from trying to metabolize the glycol and instead your liver metabolizes the ethanol causing the ethylene glycol to be elminated from your body before oxalic acid can be made. Indeed, kind of ironic how the antidote to antifreeze poisoning is get really blind drunk, LOL. +1 for truth and scientific accuracy. Anything used on your skin to kill bacteria over a long period of time is a bad idea, you need more good bacteria to keep the bad bacteria in check. Of course, this is what people need to understand, it is for this reason antibiotics should not be shoved down everybodies throat when they feel under the weather. Most antibiotics are developed from chemicals secreted by fungi, which inhibit kill or stop the growth of bacterial micro organisms, essentially you use one micro-organism to kill another. I wish people would understand the real chemicals that cause problems. Formaldehyde, Parabens, Pthlates to name a few... |
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Dr.Walter.Bishop User ID: 922003 United Kingdom 04/07/2010 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Propylene Glycol in baby wipes, when used by adults can open up the body to attacks that mimic Flesh-Eating Bacteria... Ethylene and propylene are petroleum derivatives. You know the same thing that destroy wildlife when leaked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 936759Water and hydrogen peroxide(when in vegetables and fruits) are both natural and necessary to life. Your ''logic'' fail but hey feel free to choke down on some petroleum derivatives , we both know you're shilling. Atheist |