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Stu User ID: 1134640 United States 02/12/2011 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
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Stu User ID: 1134640 United States 02/12/2011 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Civil War was about states rights Abraham Lincoln about the very objectives of that war as he saw them. “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.” _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
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Bit User ID: 1235307 United States 02/12/2011 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt any state will secede. But I foresee a lot of states passing laws that will effectively neuter federal power in their state. Just as good, but without the potential for civil war. The second you resort to insults is the second you lose the debate. Take a deep breath. |
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Stu User ID: 1134640 United States 02/12/2011 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democracy is two wolves and sheep discussing dinner. A republic is two wolves and a well-armed sheep discussing dinner _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1262635 United States 02/12/2011 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easy Johnny Reb.....Have you guys decided on how to redistribute the Fed's tax take to fund your GAS STAMPS? Before you take the plunge it's more beneficial than not to put a toe or two in the water, just like AZ is doing. One step at a time. |
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Stu User ID: 1134640 United States 02/12/2011 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one state could go it alone A coalition of states would do it much like USSR broke up as in regions _____________________________________ Even the structure of the atom has been found by the mind. Therefore the mind is subtler than the atom. That which is behind the mind, namely the individual soul, is subtler than the mind. -Ramana |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1263711 Australia 02/12/2011 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hopefully those states that take more money from the federal government than they pay in as taxes. The socialist WELFARE states [link to scatter.wordpress.com] [link to taxprof.typepad.com] [link to www.bobcesca.com] [link to farm3.static.flickr.com] |
Dr. House User ID: 1176427 United States 02/12/2011 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Depends on the current politics. You can count out any state that pays into the federal tax account and gets more than they pay in. you can also forget those states that 'break even' meaning for every tax dollar they give to the IRS they get a tax dollar of services back from the Federal Government. I do not know about Texas and Arizona, however California pays in a dollar and only sees 75 cents back from the IRS. With 10% of the US population residing in California that is billions of dollars a year we could have kept for our own services. I did the math several months ago and it strikes me that without the Federal Government California would not only be in the black but be able to pay of its debt in less than 2 years. Financially it makes sense for California to leave the USA. Since we are now producing 45% of the food the US eats, it is also a good time for us to leave. After all we can continue to export food to the USA (for a minor export fee), or the Feds can get all upset about our leaving and we can just ship that food to places like China, India, Mexico... By 2020 we will be producing 60% of the food for the USA. 9 years is not that long. So if a state were to secede the logical one would be California, it has the economic strength and leverage (food is leverage) to enable a clean break away. I think the first state to leave will be one of the smaller New England States who will suddenly move to leave without warning. Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
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