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Anonymous Coward User ID: 954657 United States 04/27/2010 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bill would delete from federal law the obligation to register so-called nonrestricted firearms, though licensing requirements for long-gun owners to buy or possess firearms and to buy ammunition would remain in place. What's the difference between registering guns, and registering gun owners? The Gestapo still knows who has them, when it's time to go pick them up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 601353 Canada 04/27/2010 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Firearms registry likely to stay, says teacher The federal Conservatives' ongoing fight to scrap the federal gun registry has the full support of Joe Michaels, who teaches firearms courses for the Nanaimo and District Fish and Game Protective Association. Michaels has been opposed to the controversial legislation since it was first introduced by the former Liberal government in 1995, calling it a waste of money (the costs of the registry have jumped from just $2 million when initially proposed to about $1 billion) and an ineffective system that will do little to deter crime in Canada. However, despite recent efforts by the Conservatives to garner enough parliamentary votes to fulfill its long-time promise to get rid of the gun registry, Michaels believes it's likely here to stay. "The previous government has done a great job of convincing the Canadian people that guns are dangerous and the registry is needed to help ensure safety in our communities," he said Monday. "Even though everyone I talk to knows that the registry is just a waste of time and money, there are many Canadians that have never handled a gun in their lives and are, unfortunately, ill-informed about the issues around firearms." Stephen Harper's Conservative government has been successful in fracturing the Liberal Party's previously united stand that the gun registry must remain. Conservative backbencher Candice Hoeppner introduced a private member's bill last year to eliminate the registry and it passed by a 164-137 margin. But Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff, who had permitted a free vote among his MPs, said he will "whip" the next vote among his MPs so that his caucus is unanimous in its opposition. [link to www.canada.com] This hits the nail on the head..... "The previous government has done a great job of convincing the Canadian people that guns are dangerous and the registry is needed to help ensure safety in our communities," he said Monday. "Even though everyone I talk to knows that the registry is just a waste of time and money, there are many Canadians that have never handled a gun in their lives and are, unfortunately, ill-informed about the issues around firearms." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 814252 Canada 04/27/2010 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it wil;l eventually be dismantled. It's been a dismal failure from conception. It's our Canadian way. A large majority never registered their guns, an even larger majority registered only a few of their guns and hid the rest, and a small portion registered. We decided for ourselves how to handle a stupid and unjust law that a few idiots wanted. I'm all for registering handguns and I sure as hell see no reason for myself or my neighbour to own an AK47 (?) When criminals line up to register their guns then I'll back that foolish piece of utter insanity. As it is the average Canadian has more guns than the average American. |
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Thomas Dolby User ID: 37525 Canada 04/27/2010 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "So put your hands down my pants and I'll bet you'll feel nuts Yes I'm Siskel, yes I'm Ebert and you're getting two thumbs up" "So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 954355 United States 04/27/2010 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Switzerland and the gun Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept. [link to news.bbc.co.uk] :) |
Etheric Equation User ID: 954336 Canada 04/27/2010 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great Last Edited by Emerald Isle on 04/27/2010 04:53 PM That shrimp was there when I got dressed this morning -- A BP Employee to TSA |
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ZTE User ID: 779511 United States 04/27/2010 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a step in the right direction. Quoting: Evil TwinThe only problem I have with this in the U.S. is that the money earned from these types registrations is one of the primary funds for State Wildlife and Conservation Departments (I'm talking about hunting/fishing registration and not gun; I know it's different, but only a stone's throw away). Now, these departments usually are pretty good to the states, and they have been (in my state at least) supporting the states rather than siding with the FWS. I don't know about Florida, but Alabama's red snapper limits are being set at an all-time low by the FWS, but the ADCNR is fighting to extend the limits/time. Now, most of these state agencies have drastically cut back their departments in this economy and are barely scraping by. So, if this was repealed in the U.S., then that would pretty much be the end of our state wildlife agencies. This means the FWS, would come in and take over without any opposition from the states. And of course, the FWS would require national registrations if this happened, which will probably cost more than what we have now. Last Edited by Zedakah on 04/27/2010 05:54 PM |
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arbourjay User ID: 954768 Canada 04/27/2010 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In order to own/purchase a non-restricted firearm in Canada you must be licensed. To get your license, you must take a 10 hour course on non-restricted firearms, and pass the written and practical test. If you pass, you have the right to apply for your license. The licensing requires you to submit a photo of yourself, with a guarantors signature saying the photo is you. You then need three refrence's sinatures. Part of the application process deals with any criminal history or mental illness etc. If you have a spouse, or ex-spouse they also must sign the application, if they do not, they will be contacted by the Chief Firearms Officer, informing them you are trying to obtain a firarms license. You send in $60.00 with your application. Approximately 45 days after they recieve your application and all the background checks clear, you then recieve your license. The only thing the government will not know is how many firearms licensed law abiding citizens have. I doubt most criminals take the non-restricted safety course, which is the pre-requiste for the restricted firearm course. I also doubt they register their guns. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 160874 Canada 04/27/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They had a poll on CTV newsnet and it was 91% in favor of abolishing the gun registry and 9% against dismantaling it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 901085Oh well then, since CTV said so!! CTV = FOX American Television pumped into the homes of the poorest who only get one channel! Sigh..... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 954355 United States 04/27/2010 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing the government will not know is how many firearms licensed law abiding citizens have. Quoting: arbourjay 954768I doubt most criminals take the non-restricted safety course, which is the pre-requiste for the restricted firearm course. I also doubt they register their guns. Yes, sadly, it is a huge disadvantage for generally 'good' people and a huge advantage to those who are not generally 'good'. :( "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764. [link to www.libertystickers.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 601353 Canada 04/27/2010 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But do you think TPTB will allow this to happen ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833035No. Easy UN money laundering government program. I will be shocked if they actually do. There should be NO registry whatsoever (except perhaps handguns but even then I am not sold on it). The pressure is on for them to remove it in rural areas. No person living around me was for this piece of crap registry and most do not believe they will remove the money laundering program. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 943372 Canada 04/27/2010 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | more guns per capita than the US as we speak right now anyway ( proabaly don't really need more) ...rifles mostly too-not pussy little .22 calibre spray and pray love tap kisses the rappers cap off either that take 20 shots just to injure somebody |
weegie User ID: 954644 United Kingdom 04/27/2010 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, have they finally figured out that the CRIMINALS didn't register the guns they would use for crimes...like murder, robbery, and all that jazz? The people could have told them that and saved a lot of money, but politicians are politicians no matter what country they happen to live in. |
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Grizzled Old Goat User ID: 954752 Canada 04/27/2010 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | carefull all.they may be trying to flush some out. this is not a guv that desereves trust. no what i mean. careful what you say. nuf said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 868423WHAT? careful what you post. Puhleeeze.. They couldn't fix a pot hole with a nuclear powered pothole fixing machine.. |
Resister User ID: 920760 United States 04/27/2010 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome back from the abyss Canada! "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 868423 Canada 04/27/2010 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | carefull all.they may be trying to flush some out. this is not a guv that desereves trust. no what i mean. careful what you say. nuf said. Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatWHAT? careful what you post. Puhleeeze.. They couldn't fix a pot hole with a nuclear powered pothole fixing machine.. thats one arm the other arm is capable of much. the people are the enemy to them. |
Samuel Adams User ID: 942815 United States 04/27/2010 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank You Canada "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |