Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

Lol, I have no idea, I find it funny this thread has been front page for seven days, that says alot of great minds and great info in here.

OOOORRRRR it could be just one big conspiracy,lmao, jking.

November 6, 2009
BP Preparing Algae Diesel and Butanol Production

BP is gearing up to begin commercial production of grass-based ethanol in 2010, in conjunction with Verenium, the latter of which already has a demonstration cellulosic ethanol facility up and running, according to Reuters.

In addition, BP is planning a 2012-2013 launch of commercial output of biobutanol at a future biofuel plant in the UK, Philip New, BP Biofuels CEO, said during a presentation at the World Ethanol 2009 conference. The wheat-based ethanol plant will be built with the help of British Sugar and chemicals group DuPont; it will begin output next year but then be retrofitted to switch to biobutanol output later on.

full article:
[link to www.goodcleantech.com]


April 24 2008
BP plans to invest $560m in biofuels

BP announced plans to invest $560m in biofuels on Thursday and argued that its proposals to develop ethanol production from sugar cane in Brazil would not affect food supplies.

The oil group plans to spend $60m buying a 50 per cent stake in a Brazilian joint venture and invest a further $500m in two ethanol refineries.

Environmental groups, some of which supported the push towards biofuels a few years ago, have become increasingly critical of the effects of ethanol and biodiesel production on food supplies and the environment.

However, BP argued that Brazilian ethanol fitted with its strategy of investing in “sustainable feedstocks that do not impact on food supplies”.

BP is providing half the total $1bn investment in two ethanol plants being prepared by Tropical BioEnergia, the joint venture it is entering with Grupo Maeda, a Brazilian agribusiness group, and Santelisa Vale, a Brazilian sugar and ethanol producer.

The Brazilian partners are at an advanced stage in preparing the venture’s first plant, which is due to enter production in July in the inland state of Goiás, an area that has experienced rapid expansion of agribusiness in recent years.

A location has yet to be chosen for the second plant.

Phil New, president of BP’s global biofuels division, who was in São Paulo on Thursday to announce the investment, said the British company had entered the joint venture at a time when the oil industry faced two big challenges: energy security and concerns over greenhouse gas emissions.

“Brazil is the most pragmatic and sensible place to respond to these concerns,” he said.

“Sugar cane has the best greenhouse gas profile of any biofuel feedstock and the way it is produced in Brazil is a remarkable story of a closed and sustainable process.”

Brazil is the second-biggest producer of fuel ethanol after the United States and its sugar cane-based industry is by far the world’s most efficient. However, it has come under attack recently as concerns spread that crops planted for ethanol are displacing food crops and contributing to the rapid rise in food prices around the world.

full article:
[link to www.ft.com]


February 9, 2009
Projects Funded by BP Deal Study Biofuel Technologies

More than one year after UC Berkeley signed its $500 million deal with energy giant BP, the partnership has produced studies geared toward improving and implementing biofuel technologies.

About 51 different projects are currently funded by the deal, which provided $20 million for research last year, said Chris Somerville, a professor of plant and microbial biology and the director of the Energy Biosciences Institute, which is funded by BP.

The institute, which comprises 120 faculty members and 170 students looks into the possibility of making fuel from the cellulosic material of plants, Somerville said.

"This whole project is aimed at reducing the use of fossil fuel and transportation," said John Taylor, a UC Berkeley professor of plant and microbial biology whose work is funded by the biosciences institute. "(We) use plants that are CO2 neutral to make ethanol or alkanes."

Taylor is working with Louise Glass and Thomas Bruns, both UC Berkeley professors of plant and microbial biology, to find a fungus that breaks down plant cell walls efficiently. They hope to use the enzyme found in the fungus to speed up the process of producing biofuels.

"Because it's a model organism, we can use molecular genetics to understand how it breaks down plant cell walls and put other enzymes into this fungus," Taylor said. "We want to understand how fungi regulate their genes when they're breaking down plant cell walls."

The funding has also gone toward research to assess the possible effects of the biofuel industry on the economy.

David Zilberman, UC Berkeley professor of agriculture and resource economics, said he used his grant to look at the economic relationship between biofuels and consumers.

full article:
[link to www.dailycal.org]

Wow, thanks AC

Can you imagine the reaction if this thread gets re-pinned? A True conspiracy we can all believe in ROFL

Can you imagine the reaction if this thread gets re-pinned? A True conspiracy we can all believe in ROFL

That would freak a whole lot of people out lol.

Re-pinning means a lot more shills and Bull-shitters also .... Nah, no tnx !
just let it stay unpinned hahahaha :P

@ watcher
You are the man who has done a great deal studying/reading those algae links,
can you help me out finding how "leathal" (or not) these exo-sists are ON THEIR OWN.
I remember reading something about that for almost 25 years there are regions -near the gom and rivers connected with the GOM- that have "dead zones" due to these (or other ?) algae. But nature always resets itself just fine.
The dead-zone were a result of dumped stuff in the rivers (from big companies and industries)

Are these algae used in the GOM the SAME as the ones from antarctica?

I think that TPTB are .. how was that saying about using a disaster to its maximum ?
they do not waste the opportunities or something ...

Last Edited by Krispy71 on 07/02/2010 06:33 AM

Let me try. From the pinned threads:
BP, Russia, US, China, War Games, Decoy, US Border, Mexico

Lol, we'll see, good morning Krispy and company.

Something is a decoy for something

Your welcome, there was an article yesterday on Raidersnewsnetwork can't find it now maybe in archives will have to search it, anyway the headline read something like BP has other plans for energy in Biofuels... I'll try to fing it and share it was quite interesting.

Goodmorning ... wel noon here in holland > 12:35 :)

I will have to go make a visit to a sick friend. Will be back in 2 hours.

Watcher I added some questions for you (and other posters) in my previous post. Could you have a look at them ?
Tnx ;)

"Other plans" ???? hmmmmzz .. interresting,
hope you will find it again

Remember my post about algae being harmless?
I found this
"To complement its new ethanol and biobutanol plants, BP is spending billions on biofuel research. The company has been eyeing algae as a possible feedstock, largely because algae do not affect fresh water resources, can be produced using ocean and waste-water, and are biodegradable and relatively harmless to the environment if spilled. While algae are expensive to produce, they can yield over 30 times more energy per unit area than other, second-generation biofuel crops. The company is also spending some $1 billion on research on sugar-cane based biofuel in Brazil, which in 2008 produced 37.3% of the world’s ethanol-based biofuel."

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]



"These single-celled wonders also have other notable virtues:

•Algae are stunningly productive - the fastest growing plants on Earth. They can double in mass in just a few hours, allowing daily harvest.
•Algae are oily and compact, producing 30 times more oil per acre than sunflowers or rapeseed.
•Algae don’t need fresh water and can thrive in water that’s boiling, salty, frozen, or contaminated -- even in sewage.
•Algae can eat pollution. They neutralize acids, split the nitrogen oxides that cause smog into harmless nitrogen and oxygen, and convert carbon dioxide (global warming pollution) into oxygen and biomass.
When algae are harvested, their lipids can be turned into biodiesel (main product), starches into ethanol, and proteins into animal feed."

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]


Someone enlighten me to why these exo-algae should be a danger like they are seemingly profiled as ...

Last Edited by Krispy71 on 07/02/2010 06:56 AM

can you help me out finding how "leathal" (or not) these exo-sists are ON THEIR OWN.

I don't think the organism itself is lethal, but conditions have to be met to promote it's growth, that's the killer.


I remember reading something about that for almost 25 years there are regions -near the gom and rivers connected with the GOM- that have "dead zones" due to these (or other ?) algae.

It's actually normal to have dead zones, I read an article yesterday where it was normal, not sure of exact acreage/square miles, but they were showing this won't be much more than normal dead zone. I think back in this thread, and I made the comment, they have way underestimated this dead zone from the oil gusher effects.


Are these algae used in the GOM the SAME as the ones from antarctica?

This my friend Krispy is the million dollar question, or are the microbes being proliferated genetically altered from a lab source? I'm not saying all microbes are bad, rather like a gun, all in how you apply it. My thoughts are this, the Gulf is being altered, either intentionally or not, by the oil/corexit/microbes(natural and man)/elements being released from the well.

Last Edited by TheWatcher on 07/02/2010 07:07 AM

The French needs free petroleum !!!

Yes, they will say "Oh, gee, we had this terrible accident happen, but look on the bright side: we now have ALL this algae growing and we can use it for The Power Of Good Clean Energy."

Oil Companies investing in Biofuel: Algae, corn ethanol, also more info on Bill Gates and Cascade Investments connection with Solazyme and Sapphire Energy.

6/29/10
Fed Dole Out $24 Million For Research to Turn Algae into Fuel
[link to www.dailyfinance.com]


7/1/10
U.S. financial support to the development of biofuels – biofuels, cellulosic ethanol – the chemical industry

the U.S. government have announced a number of advanced bio-fuel subsidy scheme, involving the development, production, project management and other fields, trying to speed up the U.S. cellulosic ethanol and algae fuel projects of construction, to ensure that the U.S. biofuels future leadership.

U.S. Department of Agriculture announced on March 3, Range Fuel will provide 80 million U.S. dollars of loan guarantees to finance the company’s plant in Georgia, wood cellulose production of bio-fuel projects. It is understood that this is the first commercial U.S. Department of Agriculture Fiber Cellulose bio-fuel plants to provide secured loans, loans in some of the funds will be used for fuel Range first commercial cellulosic bio-fuel projects. According to the plan, the project’s first phase of construction will be completed this month and put into operation the second quarter of this year. Fully operational, the plant will annually produce about 20 million gallons of cellulosic ethanol. Range Fuel’s CEO, David? Aldous, said the Ministry of Agriculture’s loan guarantee will help the company expand plant and related facilities, the successful completion of the work, will contribute to the United States the use of cellulosic biofuels, and commercial promotion.

3 4, Energy Ministry of Advanced Energy Research Projects Agency and DuPont technology investment agreement signed, allocated 8.8 million U.S. dollars for the transformation of sugar production a new generation of DuPont algae biofuels research isobutanol. Under the agreement, DuPont will be allocated and shared the biological structure of laboratory, a joint venture between DuPont and BP Butamax advanced biofuels company will be responsible for the technology business development. U.S. Department of Energy also said it would use part of the funding method, and then funded 18 pilot and demonstration projects of biological refining the design, construction, and promote the United States of cellulose and seaweed as raw material, the commercialization of advanced biofuels development. Earlier, the Department of Energy has allocated 22.6 million U.S. dollars for Rentech Inc. of biomass gasification projects producing renewable fuels. In addition, Bluefire ethanol companies recently received the Department of Energy is expected to top 250 million U.S. dollars of loan guarantees, will be used for the company 19 million gallons / year of cellulosic ethanol projects.

3 9, Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Department of Energy, a subsidiary RWBeck received 21 million U.S. dollars of funding, specifically for advanced bio-fuel project engineering management. SAIC will pay close attention to meet the Department of Energy standards for bio-fuel-funded projects, once approved by the Department of Energy, SAIC will provide management of these projects, technical, financial, construction and operation of regulatory support.

Full article:
[link to americanbiodieselenergy.com]



This blog has been posted before but wow she did her research, many links provided.

Startling Reveletions. More going on in The Gulf Of Mexico Than An Oil Spill!
[link to www.blogster.com]

That article on blogster is pretty revealing..

Still searching for that article however came across this,

Bill Gates now pushing genetically modified seeds in Africa
Friday, June 25, 2010 by: David Gutierrez,

(NaturalNews) The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation continues to throw its support behind risky genetically modified (GM) seeds as a means for feeding hungry Africans, ignoring safer and more reliable technologies that already exist.

Not long after publicly blaming GM critics for prolonging hunger in Africa, Gates announced that his foundation is partnering with DuPont subsidiary Pioneer Hi-Bred to develop higher yield GM strains of corn. Two years ago, the Gates Foundation also partnered with Monsanto to develop drought-tolerant GM corn.

The companies claim that these GM seeds will be delivered to small farmers free of charge. Yet Monsanto says its drought-tolerant corn will not be ready until 2012, at which point it will be introduced into the commercial market. It will not be made available to poor African farmers until 2016.

Pioneer is using conventional (non-GM) breeding techniques to produce higher yielding corn by 2014. There is no projected date for when a GM version of this new strain will be developed.

"It's hard not to think that Monsanto, Dupont and their ilk are turning into the Bernie Madoff of agriculture," writes "Grist" blogger Tom Laskawy. "Convince gullible foundations along with the federal government to send billions in research dollars their way based on a promise of magically awesome results. Sometime down the road, of course."

As Laskawy notes, the Nigeria National Variety Release Committee has already developed -- without the use of biotechnology -- various new corn strains that are resistant to drought, pests, disease, and poor soil fertility. These conventionally bred seeds do not pose any of the well-documented risks of GM crops, such as toxic health and environmental effects; the production of "super-weeds" and contamination of organic crops through cross-pollination; increased pesticide use; or encouraging monocultures and a loss of seed diversity.

full article:
[link to www.naturalnews.com]

We recognize that it is not "hydrates" as such causing a problem, but the word may have been used in confusion with the source of a problem for out-of-control growth of fungus, algae, moss, etc.

You know, kinda like "the fungus is among us."

You've been made aware, time to prepare.

As part of an June 20th WHO announced (sub) flotilla to the Gulf in support of control of the oil spill. In other words, much infighting behind the scenes by those in control.

Krispy I may have said that wrong a misunderstanding and I'll make a correction. RNN's headline not exact but close:
BP has other plans for energy using Biofuels...
Raidersnewsnetwork make up their own headlines and provide the links to news articles that's why I'm having difficulty finding that link.

Your post touched on some issues like (global warming) this is starting to look like the full front of Agenda 21, Cap and Trade, going green/greed. Also geoengineering manipulating nature and GM foods.


The link between BP, geoengineering and GM

Jim Thomas
28th June, 2010

BP won't stop at dangerous deep water drilling: the company is bent on still more dangerous projects, including genetic modification and hacking the planet's atmosphere...
Sometimes you have to notice the silences. Where has Dr. Steve Koonin, Under Secretary for Science at the US Department of Energy, been since the Gulf disaster happened?

Koonin was intimately acquainted with the very technologies that have failed so spectacularly on the Deepwater Horizon rig in his former job as BP’s chief scientist. While his current employer, Barack Obama is trying to figure out 'whose ass to kick’ over the spill, he might find it instructive to zip back to a presentation by Koonin at MIT in 2005, in which we see Koonin-as-oilman boasting of his company’s technological prowess in taking oil exploration and production into the ultra deep waters of the gulf.

In particular, he says that $50 million to bore a hole in the gulf’s seabed will yield a million barrels a day, describing the technical challenges of depth and pressure. A small note on the bottom of his slide reads ‘marine environment creates integrity challenges’ - engineering-speak for ‘accidents likely’.

Known unknowns

Did senior management at BP such as Koonin know that they were pushing the bounds of environmental safety in deploying these ultra-deep water-drilling technologies? Of course they did. But as Koonin’s MIT presentation makes clear, stretching technological boundaries into risky areas is how BP navigates in an era of peak oil. Koonin’s much lauded role at BP was precisely to apply cutting-edge science to the problem of declining oil reserves and growing climate crisis. Koonin led a team of researchers that would allow for the more economical extraction of hard-to-get oil (e.g. tar sands, deep water drilling).

More significantly, Koonin took a central role in sinking millions of dollars of investment by BP into the new field of extreme genetic engineering known as synthetic biology, where entrepreneurs are building the DNA of entirely novel microbes from scratch in order convert sugar plantations, corn fields and forests into biofuels to keep the car economy gassed up.

It was under Koonin’s tenure at BP that the oil giant invested an undisclosed sum into Craig Venter’s Synthetic Genomics Inc to develop microbes that could be injected into coal seams and tar sands to release methane. Such methanogenic bacteria exists naturally in parts of the Earth’s crust but the ecological implications of artificially injecting super powerful methane-creating bugs and the potential for an accidental release of powerful greenhouse gas into the atmosphere has yet to be studied. Of course BP would counter that their experimental technology would not escape, just like hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil was not expected to gush out of the seabed.

Synthetic organisms

Just over a month ago, Venter announced the ‘birth’ of Synthia, the first artificial self-reproducing organism, thereby stimulating further investment in the controversial field and attracting many calls for more regulation and oversight of these new technologies. If we have learnt one thing out of the BP-Halliburton-Transocean disaster it is this: do not trust those who are profiting from the use of a technology with its safety.

And then there is geo-engineering –the biggest technological gamble of all --which Koonin and BP see as a viable backup plan. Geoengineering refers to seemingly outlandish large-scale schemes to re-engineer atmospheric and ocean systems in order to counteract global warming. Like the massive, improbable-sounding concrete caps, nuclear options and ‘top kill’ plans now being played out on the deepwater horizon well head, such schemes have a boyish sci-fi feel to them – dumping iron in the ocean to prompt plankton blooms that would gobble up C02 or whitening clouds to reflect sunlight back to space.

full article:
[link to www.theecologist.org]


Regulate geoengineering before it's too late, say MPs
[link to www.theecologist.org]

Agenda 21 The Green Agenda
Global Warming – Settled Science?
[link to green-agenda.com]

from girlfriend, undersea internet cables being cut

Looks like a smoking gun to me....

Great, thanks OP.

Bet that's in the persian gulf...happened a few years ago.

To isolate a country? So, then it's on...

Happened at the end of 2007/early 2008.

Uh oh.

Hey Watcher. Can you explain a scenario of why they would cut an internet cable given everything else we have heard?