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Well, it looks like we have two different names for the organism, depending on if it turns out to be benevolent or beastial.

AUgie McMidas If it is a benevolent bug

Antiman If it is a bad bug.

Time will tell how history records this name.

I'd be thinking, that the history books will lie once again...
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Breezy, I am akin to thinkin that it will be a different ball game when this is over.
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Well, it looks like we have two different names for the organism, depending on if it turns out to be benevolent or beastial.

AUgie McMidas If it is a benevolent bug

Antiman If it is a bad bug.

Time will tell how history records this name.

I'd be thinking, that the history books will lie once again...



Breezy, I am akin to thinkin that it will be a different ball game when this is over.
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We will go back to writing on stone and clay tablets so that generations thousands of years from now can still read it. We cant use print or data devices because they will all be destroyed. That is why the Sumerians and Ancient Egyptians used clay and stone tablets in picture and hieroglyphic form. To preserve their history in stone no matter what.
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I'm interested in the fundamental question about the bug: "Is it good or is it whack?". The OP clearly states that it doesn't care about us, it's "human-agnostic". So, whatever happens, there is a case for learning to live with it, if indeed we can coexist. The questions are "how?" and "what do we need to do or not do?".
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I'm interested in the fundamental question about the bug: "Is it good or is it whack?". The OP clearly states that it doesn't care about us, it's "human-agnostic". So, whatever happens, there is a case for learning to live with it, if indeed we can coexist. The questions are "how?" and "what do we need to do or not do?".
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I think it is like FIRE, it can be good or bad depending on how it is applied. The same fire that keeps you warm can burn your house down. I think we can work with it and find out that it can be beneficial. Of course, there will always be the joker that tries to fight it, only to find that it fights back.
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I'm interested in the fundamental question about the bug: "Is it good or is it whack?". The OP clearly states that it doesn't care about us, it's "human-agnostic". So, whatever happens, there is a case for learning to live with it, if indeed we can coexist. The questions are "how?" and "what do we need to do or not do?".
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I used to mine opal. On the way home I would look at the rough stones my partner and I dug out of the wall and I would get into the habit of speculating on what would cut a gem. He would respond, "Wait until it is on the wheel. Haven't you learnt that yet?"

He was right. I some of the most magnificent colour shatter when placed on the grinding wheel, usually because of too much water content. Other times what looked like nothing would turn into the most coveted of gems. I developed a saying, "Life is like a grindstone. Whether it wears you out or polishes you up depends upon what you are made of" I believe it is like that with AUgie McMidas. It is the unchangeable. You or me on the other hand?? I guess it depends on what is inside each of us how will fare.

As for the nano tech version...I don't think it will be around for long. Just my hunch.
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Well, it looks like we have two different names for the organism, depending on if it turns out to be benevolent or beastial.

AUgie McMidas If it is a benevolent bug

Antiman If it is a bad bug.

Time will tell how history records this name.

I'd be thinking, that the history books will lie once again...



Breezy, I am akin to thinkin that it will be a different ball game when this is over.

We will go back to writing on stone and clay tablets so that generations thousands of years from now can still read it. We cant use print or data devices because they will all be destroyed. That is why the Sumerians and Ancient Egyptians used clay and stone tablets in picture and hieroglyphic form. To preserve their history in stone no matter what.
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When we lose our power. That alone will take us back there.
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I like the stuff you write, Monatom. There's experience and wisdom in your words.

I've been waiting for some years, really, for a big change. It feels as if it is overdue, as if someone is holding it back. Maybe we are witnessing the last waltz of the tyrants?

Now, I'm no seer, but I believe we can touch future truths, or more accurately, they can touch us. I have direct experience of this "knowing", I think many many of us have, at a low level similar to mine. Something's coming up, but it is veiled and I presume the veil is for our benefit. Maybe this GoM thing is the visible beginning of necessary change.
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I am totally amazed at how many people think this Gulf thing is all finished. "Nothing to see here folks, go back to sleep" I want to grab them by the collar and yell at them, but that would just prove to them that I am nutz. First I talk about crazy things going on in the gulf, which can't be, CNN does not report it, now I start screaming they just take me away...
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hey, head over to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com and check out the "sample confiscation" article / video (especially 1:54). Homeland Security? In the interests of national security?

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I like the stuff you write, Monatom. There's experience and wisdom in your words.

I've been waiting for some years, really, for a big change. It feels as if it is overdue, as if someone is holding it back. Maybe we are witnessing the last waltz of the tyrants?

Now, I'm no seer, but I believe we can touch future truths, or more accurately, they can touch us. I have direct experience of this "knowing", I think many many of us have, at a low level similar to mine. Something's coming up, but it is veiled and I presume the veil is for our benefit. Maybe this GoM thing is the visible beginning of necessary change.
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I agree with you. Vision is still a little hazy but I trust it is getting clearer quicker now.
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I like the stuff you write, Monatom. There's experience and wisdom in your words.

I've been waiting for some years, really, for a big change. It feels as if it is overdue, as if someone is holding it back. Maybe we are witnessing the last waltz of the tyrants?

Now, I'm no seer, but I believe we can touch future truths, or more accurately, they can touch us. I have direct experience of this "knowing", I think many many of us have, at a low level similar to mine. Something's coming up, but it is veiled and I presume the veil is for our benefit. Maybe this GoM thing is the visible beginning of necessary change.
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I agree with you. Vision is still a little hazy but I trust it is getting clearer quicker now.
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hey, head over to www.floridaoilspilllaw.com and check out the "sample confiscation" article / video (especially 1:54). Homeland Security? In the interests of national security?

We got a live one, boys and girls.
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Agreed I think we are beginning to get some real information now.

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..........

It is not a A/B3, It is a Class 3, but they probably did not hae a class 3 containment on board. Caught with their pants down.



Edit. Should have said: B3 is not used for gene altering drugs and organisms. The nastiest of the nasty.
Help with this please. Does that mean that the French sub took on board the Antiman, which had been modified with nano already placed in the Gulf for the algae experiment? That the nano causes the morphing of the organism which can affect human DNA structure?

I suggest this because at one point, Kryspy was blaming the US for the problem with the morphing organism for having developed, and/or approved nano-tech research in the Gulf. Kryspy has also insisted that companies operating in the Gulf of Mexico are in international waters and do not need US permission.

wtf?? The US is in its territorial waters doing research in energy alternatives and licensing to companies who make application for "legal" activity. The along comes UK elites with their connections and Scandinavian countries with their SERPENT project. They get a couple of US universities to work with them so it "sounds right" and then proceed to FUCK UP THE ENTIRE WORLD!
According to six string, b3 is UP(ready). Perhaps this is for non-nano units of Antiman on a JPL hit list.

Based upon a very wide variety of reports and documentation, including some undocumented "stuff" on this thread, this is the way it looks to me:

JPL is going to 'seal off' the floor of the GOM to prevent further migration of additional Antiman. At that time, there will be a world-wide pyrotechnic show in the sky, with special effects, to take attention off the Gulf and so that any unforeseen misadventure in the Gulf can be explained by the sky show and it effects.

The ODESSA group will then work to remove from existence any of the


loose Antiman. Ships have been criss-crossing areas known, or
suspected, to be splash zones to identify location
There are entities which are fighting against the extermination of the Antiman, which are the

Vatican
UK-London elites
Involved Nordic countries
Nazis in the US government

China is sitting by watching the side show, and very closely monitoring its
very-deep-ocean resources
Russia knows the danger of the Antiman and is assisting with the extermination while, at the same time, defending all the very-deep-ocean resources it can possibly claim.

Most significant casualties:

The Gulf of Mexico (it is dead)

The people, flora and fauna of the GOM

The small people of the British Isles, the Nordic countries and Northern Europe who will freeze this winter because the warm air valve has been shut off.
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bumpFor the morning.A very significant post!
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The posters on this thread are some of the most intelligent out of the box thinkers that I have had the pleasure of being associated with. My hat is off to all of you. I won't name names, you know who you are. Just wanted to say that.
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Interesting that you say "she" instead of "it".

That is different thinking..


Yes, my dear, it is. I see her as a daughter of/advocate for our planet. After all, we humans have done a piss poor job as stewards, wouldn't you say? The real problem, or enemy manifested when the military started perceiving her as such, contaminating her with their nanotech bullshit. Remember, early on, it was reported that she was not inclined to hostile behavior if not provoked/threatened. But noooooo - we had to poke, collect, alter, dick with, ad infinitum. Our intent from the get go was totally hostile to this ancient critter.
Try walk in her moccasins - what would you do?
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Yes we have indeed done a piss poor job. I was of the opinion when this new life appeared, even if it was a result of mans tinkering with our environment. This was a part of our very existence and MAN had to control this at all cost. It is the masculine in our world which has us in this mess. Our very earth is the feminine which was bequeathed to us for our care and attention. This substance could well be the lubricant of our tectonic plate movement. It could well be the reason our earth survives at all. The evil creature which man has become knew of this life in our earth and he thought he could control with his newest scientific gismos. I would most definitely agree as to this new entity being feminine and man as ever would subdue her.
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It would seem from all i have read that the illnesses the gulf population are experiencing are caused by the toxic chemicals. Thats some good news

Only one report I found mentions our little friends.

I’ve been reading about bacteria, and I now think the Great Gulf Experiment is going very badly for humans. …

ome of the oil-eating bacteria have been genetically modified, or otherwise bio-engineered, to better eat the oil…

Oil-eating bacteria produce bio-films. According to Nurse Schmidt, studies have found that bio-films are rapidly colonized (p. 97) by other Gram-negative bacteria – including those known to infect humans. …
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..........

It is not a A/B3, It is a Class 3, but they probably did not hae a class 3 containment on board. Caught with their pants down.



Edit. Should have said: B3 is not used for gene altering drugs and organisms. The nastiest of the nasty.
Help with this please. Does that mean that the French sub took on board the Antiman, which had been modified with nano already placed in the Gulf for the algae experiment? That the nano causes the morphing of the organism which can affect human DNA structure?

I suggest this because at one point, Kryspy was blaming the US for the problem with the morphing organism for having developed, and/or approved nano-tech research in the Gulf. Kryspy has also insisted that companies operating in the Gulf of Mexico are in international waters and do not need US permission.

wtf?? The US is in its territorial waters doing research in energy alternatives and licensing to companies who make application for "legal" activity. The along comes UK elites with their connections and Scandinavian countries with their SERPENT project. They get a couple of US universities to work with them so it "sounds right" and then proceed to FUCK UP THE ENTIRE WORLD!
According to six string, b3 is UP(ready). Perhaps this is for non-nano units of Antiman on a JPL hit list.

Based upon a very wide variety of reports and documentation, including some undocumented "stuff" on this thread, this is the way it looks to me:

JPL is going to 'seal off' the floor of the GOM to prevent further migration of additional Antiman. At that time, there will be a world-wide pyrotechnic show in the sky, with special effects, to take attention off the Gulf and so that any unforeseen misadventure in the Gulf can be explained by the sky show and it effects.

The ODESSA group will then work to remove from existence any of the


loose Antiman. Ships have been criss-crossing areas known, or
suspected, to be splash zones to identify location
There are entities which are fighting against the extermination of the Antiman, which are the

Vatican
UK-London elites
Involved Nordic countries
Nazis in the US government

China is sitting by watching the side show, and very closely monitoring its
very-deep-ocean resources
Russia knows the danger of the Antiman and is assisting with the extermination while, at the same time, defending all the very-deep-ocean resources it can possibly claim.

Most significant casualties:

The Gulf of Mexico (it is dead)

The people, flora and fauna of the GOM

The small people of the British Isles, the Nordic countries and Northern Europe who will freeze this winter because the warm air valve has been shut off.

bumpFor the morning.A very significant post!
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bump For a very concise analysis.
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The original strain is only a threat to those who feel threatened according to OP.It came from the depths to make the earth more alien friendly also according to OP.If it has as much primal intelligence as I think it has I am not at all concerned.
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Excellent, my Irish friend, I had the "tectonic plate lubricant" idea and the thought that they were perhaps trying to "anchor" North America in the face of tectonic upheaval. Don't want any ocean in those deep underground bases really.

You thinking chimes.
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The original strain is only a threat to those who feel threatened according to OP.It came from the depths to make the earth more alien friendly also according to OP.If it has as much primal intelligence as I think it has I am not at all concerned.
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So far what do we know for sure. Not much.

Do we know for sure there is an intelligent organism that came from the sea floor. NO. We do know that there is an organism that digests various metal and leaves be hind a lattice work deposit of the metals it has ingested. Belond that its all speculation at this point. Need to keep digging I suppose.
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Excellent, my Irish friend, I had the "tectonic plate lubricant" idea and the thought that they were perhaps trying to "anchor" North America in the face of tectonic upheaval. Don't want any ocean in those deep underground bases really.

You thinking chimes.
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I did mention those shelters a long way back and how they ptb were providing for themselves alone. There are two possible chances of survival in the coming times. Those in my book are space, and sea, and both of those are tentative at best. The ptb and their minions, (who will be left to their own devices)
have no great power in the coming times. They have come up against something over which they (hopefully) have no control. Our earth will change regardless of how man likes. He has in the end no great control at all. We were given this Eden to care for and in return this Eden would have cared for all our needs. Mankind has invited this horror through greed and carelessness. A further thought would have me think. Maybe this is why we refer to Eve as the one who is to blame for mans downfall, and it is the first place in humanity we abused the feminine in mankind.
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..........

It is not a A/B3, It is a Class 3, but they probably did not hae a class 3 containment on board. Caught with their pants down.



Edit. Should have said: B3 is not used for gene altering drugs and organisms. The nastiest of the nasty.
Help with this please. Does that mean that the French sub took on board the Antiman, which had been modified with nano already placed in the Gulf for the algae experiment? That the nano causes the morphing of the organism which can affect human DNA structure?

I suggest this because at one point, Kryspy was blaming the US for the problem with the morphing organism for having developed, and/or approved nano-tech research in the Gulf. Kryspy has also insisted that companies operating in the Gulf of Mexico are in international waters and do not need US permission.

wtf?? The US is in its territorial waters doing research in energy alternatives and licensing to companies who make application for "legal" activity. The along comes UK elites with their connections and Scandinavian countries with their SERPENT project. They get a couple of US universities to work with them so it "sounds right" and then proceed to FUCK UP THE ENTIRE WORLD!
According to six string, b3 is UP(ready). Perhaps this is for non-nano units of Antiman on a JPL hit list.

Based upon a very wide variety of reports and documentation, including some undocumented "stuff" on this thread, this is the way it looks to me:

JPL is going to 'seal off' the floor of the GOM to prevent further migration of additional Antiman. At that time, there will be a world-wide pyrotechnic show in the sky, with special effects, to take attention off the Gulf and so that any unforeseen misadventure in the Gulf can be explained by the sky show and it effects.

The ODESSA group will then work to remove from existence any of the


loose Antiman. Ships have been criss-crossing areas known, or
suspected, to be splash zones to identify location
There are entities which are fighting against the extermination of the Antiman, which are the

Vatican
UK-London elites
Involved Nordic countries
Nazis in the US government

China is sitting by watching the side show, and very closely monitoring its
very-deep-ocean resources
Russia knows the danger of the Antiman and is assisting with the extermination while, at the same time, defending all the very-deep-ocean resources it can possibly claim.

Most significant casualties:

The Gulf of Mexico (it is dead)

The people, flora and fauna of the GOM

The small people of the British Isles, the Nordic countries and Northern Europe who will freeze this winter because the warm air valve has been shut off.

bumpFor the morning.A very significant post!

bump For a very concise analysis.
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+10
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Well, it looks like we have two different names for the organism, depending on if it turns out to be benevolent or beastial.

AUgie McMidas If it is a benevolent bug

Antiman If it is a bad bug.

Time will tell how history records this name.

I'd be thinking, that the history books will lie once again...



Breezy, I am akin to thinkin that it will be a different ball game when this is over.

We will go back to writing on stone and clay tablets so that generations thousands of years from now can still read it. We cant use print or data devices because they will all be destroyed. That is why the Sumerians and Ancient Egyptians used clay and stone tablets in picture and hieroglyphic form. To preserve their history in stone no matter what.
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in Ellenic (greek) myth we are told that the time will come when the STONES will speak

some perceive this as what you mentioned above

very perceptive and logical on your behalf

civilizations that we know the most about are the ones which built in stone and wrote on tablets (of course parchments are hidden since babylon)

a good example is the Rosetta Stone which deciphered hieroglyphics as 3 languages where found on one tablet
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The posters on this thread are some of the most intelligent out of the box thinkers that I have had the pleasure of being associated with. My hat is off to all of you. I won't name names, you know who you are. Just wanted to say that.
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bump
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After all the time in labs that I've spent in my early years. I never made the connection. Too many year ago.

They brought that crap on board with them. Inside. It obiously did not allow itself to be contained by normal methods.

B3 cargo.

It is the B3 lab safety laminar airflow and filter system for biological materials. It would apply in a sub, too. Those designations and standards for cabinets are used all over the world.

Somebody kick me. I have to go slap my forehead.

Look for A/B3 under the Class II cabinets.

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sounds corrrect
think of the difficulties trying to place such a chamber in a sub when considering air filtration and supply

so good to have you back hd
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any trekies here?
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any trekies here?
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remember the first in the series of next generation

remember what killed natasha yar?

just a silly connection
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It got out, contaminated the sub. Killed some.

probably some of them locked themeselves out of that part of the boat.

No wonder it was a problem for them to try to figure out not just how to transfer it to another ship, but also how to decontaminate the sub AND try to make a containment system that would work. That would have to wait for another ship to be able to take it.

Rereading the OP posts, it now makes sense to me.
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This could have something to do with the blown hatch which was never explained, except that the rescuing party did it, we think because the submarine did not recognize the rescuers (shots fired.)
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It got out, contaminated the sub. Killed some.

probably some of them locked themeselves out of that part of the boat.

No wonder it was a problem for them to try to figure out not just how to transfer it to another ship, but also how to decontaminate the sub AND try to make a containment system that would work. That would have to wait for another ship to be able to take it.

Rereading the OP posts, it now makes sense to me.

What do you think got out HouseDad?
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