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OK, a few of us on chat were talking about the 'issue' in Antarctica. We've all seen the articles on the drilling by the Ruskies in to Lake Vostok.

The issue is relating to Aco's thread on Antarctica, and a possible stargate or something, but that isnt what I'm going to point out here.

Most articles say that the Ruskies have been drilling for over thirty years. That's a long time. They also say that they stopped back in 1998, only 100 or so meters from the lakes surface, due to environmental concerns.

Ahah...When has that ever been an issue that the Ruskies were concerned with? Any how, they have been pouring kerosine in to the hole for decades to stop the freezing process, so they dont have to start over again. This has caught the attention of the World, and scientists are not happy about it, so efforts have been made to correct this.

Look at this picture of the Vostok drilling operation. Does it look like a 12000 foot drilling operation?


IMAGE ( [link to i824.photobucket.com] )


- then check out a deep water oil rig. Remembering that the average drilling pipe is about 12 feet long. To drill 12000 feet would require 1000+ pieces of pipe to get down that far. Do you see an area where 1000 pieces of pipe would be stored? do you see a rig capable of handing such a large quantity of pipe? Nope.

Also, to fill up the hole with kerosine, basing calculations on a 8 inch drill head, hell, even a 6 inch drill head, would require a hell of a lot of kero to fill up a 12000 foot hole. Now that they have had to remove the kero in order to continue on (supposedly) where is the storage tanks for some 6000ltrs of kero? (maybe my calcs are wrong, even any large body of kero)

So no storage of kero, or drilling pipes. So how do they drill that deep down in to ice without these, using a relatively tiny rig?

They use a laser.

The laser melts as it goes, but the water refreezes pretty quickly, so you need an anti freeze. You cant pour kero any more, so what do you use?

Mega salt.

Plenty of water to mix with it. So you pump down the massively saline water in to the hole as the laser punches through. The fresh water rises to the surface of the salin solution, as does the old kerosine. The nature of the saline solution still allows the laser to pass through it and melt the ice below. Slowly at that length. Remembering that they had already drilled a long ways down.

So maybe that's where all that salt was going? I doubt Vostok is the only drilling op going on down there.

Have another look at Vostok base. Look like an oil platform drilling operation (not for oil, but same scale I mean) or does it look like a high powered laser could be mounted to one of the two drill rigs? Maybe they even converge at a point? One in, one out?

Keen to hear any other thoughts on this.
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Just found this map on Stan Deyo's web site

[link to www.blurredistinction.com]

Click on the 'Last Week' button, and then on the 'Animate' button

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chat log as requested by Isis7 -

gulfie: and don't forget the pink eye glow...that has something to do with Antarctica too
BHD: Dont know about the kerosine. Maybe temperature related? Freezing/boiling point
Isis7: who said anything about them being pretty? It would seem more important what function/resourse or use of them
BHD: Just on glowing eyes, I once read something on the Stargate TV show, that they based the glowing Goa-ould eyes on a real bacterial infection of the vitrious and aqueous humour in the eye. They had bio-illuminescence
BHD: No, I meant crystals as we usually see them, the shapes. That's what I meant. But wanted to point out that blobs can also be crystals. Even ice packs
BHD: ever thought that the ice packs could be a giant crystaline structure? Information holder?
Isis7: even the flaws have use too
BHD: crystals and nano have much in common, especially at that tiny level of existance. The current laws of physics etc dont seem to apply
BHD: so a giant crystal perhaps also does not necessarily have normal physics apply
BHD: we hear of the ruskies and the chinese finding all this stuff, even the nazis! but never the us or uk? Why is that?
BHD: geography?
gulfie: except chicago..? i think
BHD: capaciters are crystals of sorts
BHD: used to store energy.
BHD: Maybe beneath the Earth there large monocrystals atract energy from space. Maybe beneath each volcano there is a large monocrystal?
Isis7: I once read that mica was used on a particular pyramid in South America, but I don't remember which one.
Isis7: isn't that in the crystal group?
BHD: an artificial crystal then? It has different properties agin, as it is a layered crystal, unlike say granite or quarz
BHD: Mica was used in early capaciters because of its layered properties
BHD: can be polished to be almost glass like, but as it is layered, has composite properties
BHD: in terms of strength. But then they worked out how to temper glass
BHD: ... another man made crystal, and in nearly every home
Isis7: The great pyramid in Egypt use to have a over layer that is missing now, can't remember what was either. Just wondered if there was a significance in the various outer layers used.
BHD: probably an insulator
Isis7: a reflective insulator
gulfie:
BHD: reflective of Sun rays and other solar radiation, but also inclusive of what was generated from within, keeping it within maybe?
Isis7: hi
BHD: keeping it pure
Isis7: so, if we have an enclosed container of water gas, layered in monocrystals with a tunnel above it and kerosene in the tunnel, what could be made of it? water gas is a secondary fuel, kerosene is fuel?
Isis7: hmmm wonder if the kerosene was set fire, if it would burn hot enough to break the monocrystals, and what could be achieved it this were done? melt ice?
Isis7: collect the monocrystals for other uses?
BHD: I was thinking the kerosine would lay on the surface and trap anything beneath it. It would also not freeze when/if the water froze. So a barrier maybe
BHD: or maybe only some special gas comes thru the kerosine for collection. The interaction between crystal and H2O would possibly make something
Isis7: no, the kerosene isn't enough to not freexe in those temperatures, or at least that is what they want us to think. let me find the link
BHD: -110 for frozen kerosine
BHD: ..or maybe you are right. If what ever is given off by the crystal/h2o interaction, maybe the kero is used to burn it off/kill it? Arial splashzone prevention?
BHD: Ruskies are pretty basic in dealing with thuings
BHD: sory, -47 freez point
Isis7: [link to real-agenda.com]
BHD: Dr Emoto (Japan) studies the crystaline structure of water. Might be worth looking at what he is suggesting, then translating that to giant level, and working out the event on a planetary scale, rather than a human level
BHD: so it was used to not freeze. I hadnt read that article btw
Isis7: yeah, I should have already posted it. Just trying to get it altogether first.
BHD: That is a lot of kerosine btw. 12000feet x 6" bore hole. Nearly 6000 ltrs of fuel. Where did they get that from?
BHD: maybe not all the ways down?
BHD: doesnt add up
Isis7: Shelf Breakup reaching Tipping Point
Isis7: [link to www.aari.aq]
Isis7: [link to news.discovery.com]
BHD: If it needs to be re-distributed, then we should not try to stop it
Isis7: [link to www.ouramazingplanet.com]
Isis7: [link to www.wired.co.uk]
Isis7: [link to www.asoc.org]
Isis7: [link to www.newworldencyclopedia.org]
Isis7: [link to www.educationalelectronicsusa.com]
Isis7: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
Isis7: gotta find the links for the Americans being evacuated and why, and to Christschurch, and when the earthquakes started too.
Isis7: I believe it all ties in, just trying to connect the dots.
BHD: OK, here's another issue. Most drill pipe sections are 12' long. At least they are on oil platforms. So 12000' + = 1000+ pieces of pipe on the surface. I cant see any extra pipes on the surface there near the drill rig(s). Nor an area cordened off to hole....
Isis7: I noticed that in the pic from the thread too.
BHD: ...hold that many pieces of pipe. Also where is there a vessel to hole 6000ltrs of kerosine?
BHD: hold
BHD: There would be no point in partially filling the hole, as you would still have to drill perfectly down to that point. Not gonna happen. Where are all the pipes from removal of the drill?
BHD: Unless they are using some new tech, this is shaping up as BS Isis.
BHD: Possibly they are using a laser?
BHD: Ahhh. Maybe not kero initially. If a laser is used to melt the ice, it isnt instant. You have to displace the water you have created
BHD: Other wise it will just freeze over again. So fill the new hole with a clear liquid taht is heavier than water. You gonna love this, really.....
BHD: Super saline water, of a particular isotope would be heavier than water, but still clear and viscouse. The laser can pass thru it.
Hans The Magnificent: It will almost instantly refreeze, as anyone who has tried to clean a windshiled in subzero weather will find out.
Isis7: one article said they used antifreeze but abandoned it
BHD: The heavier water then makes the melted water rise out of the hole, whilst continuously pouring heavy salt water in to the hole. As they had to stop, they pump out the high saline water and replace with kero
BHD: Remember all the salt going to antarctica?
Isis7: Didn't catch that article
BHD: That's what the salt was for. So look at the rig. Does it look like a drilling rig to you?
BHD: No article, this is pure BHD
BHD: plenty of water about... just add mega salt
BHD: tiny bit of kero might create a slurry that does not freeze
Isis7: The Americans were flooded out too
BHD: OK, gonna cut and paste on to Bezerk. This is interesting.
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wow almost 1.5 million views
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I think I account for at least 50,768 of those views. I'm new to this whole topic and trying to catch up with this thread and the associated ones. *blush*
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Good on you! Its big eh?
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thought:

I recall the Astute and that cruiseship?
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Japan: no generators, no batteries back up

Does this rings a bell?
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OP Wrote:

3 will be Geophysical Events
2 will be Geological Events
1 is an Astronomical Event
1 Event is Classified as NEW. (Immensely Effective Cyber attack resulting in a Shutdown)
2 Military Events of which one is a direct attack/strike of a high tech weapon and the other an attack followed by an occupation.
From my GirlFriend's contacts it is clear that these events will only begin to occur after a 90 day period(RISING SUN) has expired and most are scheduled for 2011.




This is a preliminary TRY at putting 2+2 together.

Please assume it is mostly or entirely wrong....


Recent info posted by Nexus, and other research gave me this varied picture.

But it is a start.



Astrononical:

1) Solar Heliosphere enters area of galaxy with high energy proton clouds, increasing it's energy state and making it more volitile.


Geophysical:

1) Increased solar activity and cme hitting earth
2) Heating of core from increased solar activity pumping the Earths magnetic fields
3)Earths core expands



Geological

1) Earths crust splits causing earthquakes and devestation
2) oceans rise and cover large areas of land (SORT OF like movie 2012)


New event

cyber attack shutting down all of internet, satellite, and radio communications worldwide. Prevents organized resistance and some mass panic.


Military events

1) Attack of western rockies and Sierras (not underwater) and occupation
2) Solar initiation module activated and used to instantly eliminate all non genetically compatable persons within a area (unknown where. I suspect Siberia) which will then be occupied (instant death by shutting down the bodies electrical systems OR a complete memory wipe via similar process.)



Organism is a secondary, but still a major and deadly problem.
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could the powerless nucleair plants fit in somewhere?
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Breezy, in Aco's thread, where the Sun cross was posted. Part of the info on that badge contained the word CERN, out of Cernan.

Was this a clue, or am I over investing here? Plus there were a couple of numbers.
 Quoting: BHD 1111604


let me go look at that again..BHD...sorry..have had other things doing...miss you too...
 Quoting: breezy


Was one of the rejected Apollo 17 badges. The one with Stone Henge etc.
 Quoting: BadHairDay

Understand this is just me rattling my brain..trying to make sense out of things...

here we go..back to this again...the patch...with cern an's name on it the post on Chronicles thread on 3/17/11...this one...

TTM KPO RFA BANGKOK EST TARGET / ARV 48:00 IMB (CLEAR ZONE ALERT)
PPA TXR DSM MALAYSIA EST TARGET / ARV 72:00 IMB (CLEAR ZONE ALERT) by poster ENROUTE...

ok..then yesterday the quake in the exact same spot as this post was indicating, fully one week ago...from the Chronicles thread...


This copied from 3/14 off the thread about Germany shutting down nuclear reactors...

I think they know there are going to be quakes and "coastal events" happening across the globe for the next couple months. Things will be getting crazy as we get closer to 2012.
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this is where the patch...with cernan's name on it was posted...perhaps there was some connection after all BHD...So who knows ahead of time when pressures are going to build up, and techtonic plates are going to move, long enough prior to give people time to leave? Someone obviously does...not creating the quakes but knowing when they are going to happen a week before they do..

From 2008

[link to www.independent.co.uk]


"Time travel into the future is absolutely possible, in fact time passes at a different rate in orbit than it does on the ground, and this has to be taken into consideration in order for satellite navigation systems to work"

Look at what they've put into space from Cern...in 2010

[link to quantumpsychonautics.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: acolyte


Paradox, a crime series in which events from the future are downloaded from a satellite in space.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Black Knight" Satellite

What is the "Black Knight" satellite? It is a mysterious satellite, of unknown origin, discovered in 1960 which shadowed Sputnik. It is believed to have been of extraterrestrial origin, and signaled back old radio waves from the 1920s and 1930s before it disappeared. In short wave patterns analyzed by astronomer Duncan Lunan, it revealed its origin as Epsilon Boötes (or the star system as it was 13,000 years ago).

[link to www.forbiddenhistory.info (secure)]
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That's interesting. Never heard of that one before. TY.
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"During distracted moments I have been thinking about the Fukushima nuclear incident.

I'm an expat in S. Japan.

Tonight I find myself very intrigued by a possible explanation for all the cock-ups, delays and bs in the news.

I know that Israel never does anything unless there’s something in it, so the team Israel is sending now made me curious.

Quite a few people are coming – some 50 soldiers, some doctors, some people-management experts (What???!!!) and others. But what intrigued me was that amongst their ‘delegation’ are people alleged to be ‘nuclear experts.’

Nuclear experts? We all know about their having a huge arsenal of nuclear weapons and there’s an alleged peaceful nuclear reactor in Dimona. But I highly doubt whether Japan is short of nuclear experts as they built the damn reactors and the Americans were the experts who designed the plant. So I was thinking about what happened in Iran with their reactor and the virus proudly toted by the US and Israel which has caused a delay in their plans to get their reactor online.

In fact I was so keen to put my theory to the test that I put TWO teabags in my cup instead of just one, and then proceeded to try to prove myself wrong by searching on the ‘net.

It is easy to find a site which will support some or all or just a bit of my theory, so of course I wasn’t going to settle for AJ’ PP or such – at least not unless I could find supporting evidence elsewhere from a less unreliable source.

Well. First I wanted to show you verification of the operating system used in Fukushima. I am sorry to say I couldn’t find much (or indeed anything at all) from the mainstream media. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough. Though the fact that even the dinosaur Fukushima reactors used Seimens programmes is undisputed as far as I can tell. I have been increasingly suspicious that the computer ‘virus’ STU.X.NET might have been at play.

The STU.X.NET worm basically goes everywhere on the ‘net, and it can enter a system through a USB port. The worm doesn’t seem to harm all programmes, but requires an identifier from a Seimens industrial programme which is used in nuclear power stations amongst other complex industrial processes.

Once the worm finds its target it can hide in the system. One of the ways it can be triggered into action is by something which could be called a ‘kinetic trigger.’ This means that in the event of a minor accident the programme kicks in and makes it a whole lot worse. Otherwise the programme works by telling the operators in the control room that all is OK and showing dials and figures which show things are normal - But in fact all hell might be breaking loose at the reactor. So the operators wouldn’t know what was happening until perhaps a large explosion.

The STU.X.NET worm was designed by the CIA and the MOSSAD to target the Seimens ‘6’ programme which is used in the reactor the Iranians want to get online. The virus worked and has set their plans back for having the reactor ready by their schedule. The way it went in Iran’s nuclear power plant was that in the control room the gauges for the centrifuges for enriching the uranium were showing all was well, whereas in actual fact they were spinning out of control. So the uranium wasn’t of the required concentration, so the whole lot that was being processed was useless.

The Israeli/US worm used against Iran was specially tailored for that particular site, and it is unlikely anyone could have pulled-that off without having inside information… so I gather. The Seimens programme which is targeted is used in the centrifuges, the cooling system and the backup systems.

If anyone’s interested you can look through this site:- [link to www.waketheflockup.com] there are many, many more sites. This being one of the sites which has comments and articles written by people who are on the clever side.

*

When I heard the Israeli IDF was coming to Japan I was a bit confused. I couldn’t see what they had to gain by it. I thought it would be difficult to purloin corneas or kidneys from victims because they’d be being watched and besides at least some of the stuff would be contaminated with radiation.

Then I wondered if they were there to administer vaccines. Any alleged vaccines being given would of course be to weaken or kill the lucky survivors, but then again I thought that handing out vaccines wouldn’t be worth many sheckles. So why are they coming – and who exactly is coming??? The snapshot of the Israeli team when they were preparing to board the plane to take them here shows many of them in civilian clothes. They didn’t look like doctors and they didn’t look like military.

Non-military giving vaccines? Surely not. Non-military sent to help with the rebuilding? Strange. Could they be a team of computer experts who have come here with the aim of destroying any incriminating evidence about their MOSSAD’s virus in the remains of the hard-drives there at the nuke plants? - That seems somewhat plausible to me.

… And the Israelis coming here would know all about the Fukushima reactors because it’s an Israeli company who has been doing the security there and has had cameras everywhere in the Fukushima facilities which have certainly been providing 24/7 video coverage before the tsunami and also afterwards up until now.

Anyway, look at this link and then keep searching if you like:- [link to nekotu0710.cocolog-nifty.com] … It’s in Japanese at the beginning but scroll down and you’ll find it in English.

*

I have been getting more confused at the sequence of events pertaining to the Fukushima crisis. One red flag was the early reports of the generators actually working for a while, but conking out after a couple of hours. I know diesel generators are not so easy to wreck – but I know their operating systems can easily be damaged.

Then the batteries for the backup - They were fully charged but did no good. There were even spare batteries airlifted in. Batteries are basically a positive and a negative and they come in sizes from miniscule to extremely large. It was claimed the connections didn’t match and that was the reason they couldn’t be used. Well tell that to someone who knows nothing about batteries or electricity and you’ll get some heads nodding. But I know a fair bit and that’s about the most p iss poor excuse I’ve ever heard.

At the start it was only one reactor which was showing signs of trouble. One worker is being reported to have said there was steam coming from one of the reactors after the quake and before the tsunami.

Then soon after the backup generators were switched into operation, all the reactors went through the same situation of the cooling pumps breaking down.

*

Look at the this picture from the BBC showing an aerial shot of the Fukushima plant. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Use the control button and your mouse wheel and zoom in. I know it isn’t exactly HD but you can see the general layout and it shows you the buildings are relatively undamaged by a tsunami. The reactors are all behind a huge wall of concrete buildings which is intact. The plant machinery around the reactors is in a semblance of order. Now you do some thinking!

I think at this time that the Fukushima reactors went out of control because the cooling systems were being controlled by their Seimens programme, which was affected by the US/Israeli STU.X.NET worm.

I think the sudden appearance of a civilian team to help with the disaster is basically to hide any evidence that their respective governments are the reason the reactors couldn’t be controlled.

I doubt it was the intention of the US/Israeli government to render Honshu a no-go area, I prefer to think their pet virus escaped from its cage and they couldn’t track it down in time.

A couple of days ago a reactor in Slovenia failed to start. I know of a couple more reactors which had to be shut down. They all used the Seimens 6 industrial computer operating system. Why is Germany suddenly shutting down all their nukes?

Seimens apparently haven’t aggressively encouraged people using their programme to change the passwords because it would be extremely problematic – especially in older plants.

What else??? My tea’s got cold. "
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"During distracted moments I have been thinking about the Fukushima nuclear incident.

I'm an expat in S. Japan.

Tonight I find myself very intrigued by a possible explanation for all the cock-ups, delays and bs in the news.

I know that Israel never does anything unless there’s something in it, so the team Israel is sending now made me curious.

Quite a few people are coming – some 50 soldiers, some doctors, some people-management experts (What???!!!) and others. But what intrigued me was that amongst their ‘delegation’ are people alleged to be ‘nuclear experts.’

Nuclear experts? We all know about their having a huge arsenal of nuclear weapons and there’s an alleged peaceful nuclear reactor in Dimona. But I highly doubt whether Japan is short of nuclear experts as they built the damn reactors and the Americans were the experts who designed the plant. So I was thinking about what happened in Iran with their reactor and the virus proudly toted by the US and Israel which has caused a delay in their plans to get their reactor online.

In fact I was so keen to put my theory to the test that I put TWO teabags in my cup instead of just one, and then proceeded to try to prove myself wrong by searching on the ‘net.

It is easy to find a site which will support some or all or just a bit of my theory, so of course I wasn’t going to settle for AJ’ PP or such – at least not unless I could find supporting evidence elsewhere from a less unreliable source.

Well. First I wanted to show you verification of the operating system used in Fukushima. I am sorry to say I couldn’t find much (or indeed anything at all) from the mainstream media. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough. Though the fact that even the dinosaur Fukushima reactors used Seimens programmes is undisputed as far as I can tell. I have been increasingly suspicious that the computer ‘virus’ STU.X.NET might have been at play.

The STU.X.NET worm basically goes everywhere on the ‘net, and it can enter a system through a USB port. The worm doesn’t seem to harm all programmes, but requires an identifier from a Seimens industrial programme which is used in nuclear power stations amongst other complex industrial processes.

Once the worm finds its target it can hide in the system. One of the ways it can be triggered into action is by something which could be called a ‘kinetic trigger.’ This means that in the event of a minor accident the programme kicks in and makes it a whole lot worse. Otherwise the programme works by telling the operators in the control room that all is OK and showing dials and figures which show things are normal - But in fact all hell might be breaking loose at the reactor. So the operators wouldn’t know what was happening until perhaps a large explosion.

The STU.X.NET worm was designed by the CIA and the MOSSAD to target the Seimens ‘6’ programme which is used in the reactor the Iranians want to get online. The virus worked and has set their plans back for having the reactor ready by their schedule. The way it went in Iran’s nuclear power plant was that in the control room the gauges for the centrifuges for enriching the uranium were showing all was well, whereas in actual fact they were spinning out of control. So the uranium wasn’t of the required concentration, so the whole lot that was being processed was useless.

The Israeli/US worm used against Iran was specially tailored for that particular site, and it is unlikely anyone could have pulled-that off without having inside information… so I gather. The Seimens programme which is targeted is used in the centrifuges, the cooling system and the backup systems.

If anyone’s interested you can look through this site:- [link to www.waketheflockup.com] there are many, many more sites. This being one of the sites which has comments and articles written by people who are on the clever side.

*

When I heard the Israeli IDF was coming to Japan I was a bit confused. I couldn’t see what they had to gain by it. I thought it would be difficult to purloin corneas or kidneys from victims because they’d be being watched and besides at least some of the stuff would be contaminated with radiation.

Then I wondered if they were there to administer vaccines. Any alleged vaccines being given would of course be to weaken or kill the lucky survivors, but then again I thought that handing out vaccines wouldn’t be worth many sheckles. So why are they coming – and who exactly is coming??? The snapshot of the Israeli team when they were preparing to board the plane to take them here shows many of them in civilian clothes. They didn’t look like doctors and they didn’t look like military.

Non-military giving vaccines? Surely not. Non-military sent to help with the rebuilding? Strange. Could they be a team of computer experts who have come here with the aim of destroying any incriminating evidence about their MOSSAD’s virus in the remains of the hard-drives there at the nuke plants? - That seems somewhat plausible to me.

… And the Israelis coming here would know all about the Fukushima reactors because it’s an Israeli company who has been doing the security there and has had cameras everywhere in the Fukushima facilities which have certainly been providing 24/7 video coverage before the tsunami and also afterwards up until now.

Anyway, look at this link and then keep searching if you like:- [link to nekotu0710.cocolog-nifty.com] … It’s in Japanese at the beginning but scroll down and you’ll find it in English.

*

I have been getting more confused at the sequence of events pertaining to the Fukushima crisis. One red flag was the early reports of the generators actually working for a while, but conking out after a couple of hours. I know diesel generators are not so easy to wreck – but I know their operating systems can easily be damaged.

Then the batteries for the backup - They were fully charged but did no good. There were even spare batteries airlifted in. Batteries are basically a positive and a negative and they come in sizes from miniscule to extremely large. It was claimed the connections didn’t match and that was the reason they couldn’t be used. Well tell that to someone who knows nothing about batteries or electricity and you’ll get some heads nodding. But I know a fair bit and that’s about the most p iss poor excuse I’ve ever heard.

At the start it was only one reactor which was showing signs of trouble. One worker is being reported to have said there was steam coming from one of the reactors after the quake and before the tsunami.

Then soon after the backup generators were switched into operation, all the reactors went through the same situation of the cooling pumps breaking down.

*

Look at the this picture from the BBC showing an aerial shot of the Fukushima plant. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] Use the control button and your mouse wheel and zoom in. I know it isn’t exactly HD but you can see the general layout and it shows you the buildings are relatively undamaged by a tsunami. The reactors are all behind a huge wall of concrete buildings which is intact. The plant machinery around the reactors is in a semblance of order. Now you do some thinking!

I think at this time that the Fukushima reactors went out of control because the cooling systems were being controlled by their Seimens programme, which was affected by the US/Israeli STU.X.NET worm.

I think the sudden appearance of a civilian team to help with the disaster is basically to hide any evidence that their respective governments are the reason the reactors couldn’t be controlled.

I doubt it was the intention of the US/Israeli government to render Honshu a no-go area, I prefer to think their pet virus escaped from its cage and they couldn’t track it down in time.

A couple of days ago a reactor in Slovenia failed to start. I know of a couple more reactors which had to be shut down. They all used the Seimens 6 industrial computer operating system. Why is Germany suddenly shutting down all their nukes?

Seimens apparently haven’t aggressively encouraged people using their programme to change the passwords because it would be extremely problematic – especially in older plants.

What else??? My tea’s got cold. "
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clappa

I wonder if Sellafield runs on Siemens '6'
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chat log as requested by Isis7 -

gulfie: and don't forget the pink eye glow...that has something to do with Antarctica too
BHD: Dont know about the kerosine. Maybe temperature related? Freezing/boiling point
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Isis7: The Americans were flooded out too
BHD: OK, gonna cut and paste on to Bezerk. This is interesting.
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I recall back when the Americans were moved out of McMurdo. They were sick, some seriously, but no report on reasons.

Another curious event, somewhere about that time, two females adventurers/explorers set out to cross a section of Antarctica. The beginning of the trip got several mentions in msm, then later, we didn't hear anything. I always felt that was some sort of special search operation.
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thought:

I recall the Astute and that cruiseship?
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Japan: no generators, no batteries back up

Does this rings a bell?
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a couple things to think about

hydrates are frozen water around "another substance"
an ice prison????

the converted ice cutter/cruise ship ran aground in antarctic 2-4 months ago name "polar star" (feb 3rd)

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hmmms take my post don't give credit..good for you..bad for me..thanks...breezy
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if something living was trapped in a crystal...superman/soul gem...hhmmm

could it still communicate...ask for help

suxnet worm...big possibilities...does it effect allen bradleys, etc too?? if so all process controls are suspect

including refineries, conventional power production, very possibilly grid management, transportation (railroads switching traffic signals) the list is infinite

now what if somebody that DIDN't (originally) write the worm, send it back, or uummm, took control of issuing new marching orders???

by the way
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everybody here is amazing
if we are doomed at least it was seen here first
(not much damn'd consolation though)

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What's up Breez? I missed what you are saying.
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if something living was trapped in a crystal...superman/soul gem...hhmmm

could it still communicate...ask for help


suxnet worm...big possibilities...does it effect allen bradleys, etc too?? if so all process controls are suspect

including refineries, conventional power production, very possibilly grid management, transportation (railroads switching traffic signals) the list is infinite

now what if somebody that DIDN't (originally) write the worm, send it back, or uummm, took control of issuing new marching orders???

by the way
bezerker voyeur since day one
everybody here is amazing
if we are doomed at least it was seen here first
(not much damn'd consolation though)

dr
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Yeah, that is really interesting. I mentioned that nano and other really tiny things often dont seem to work within the rules set out by our science. Its something many scientists are wrangling with in the new nano sciences. Colour and vibration, and how other seemingly disparate influences effect nano crystals are some of those challenges.

There was talk about giant mono crystals yesterday on chat.

As a singular giant crystal, could they possibly also react differently to our normal scientific rules?

I am trying to find an article in a Scientific Australian magazine, which is about 6 years old now, on just this. They list a whole raft of peculiar characteristics that nano crystals display. They even mentioned gold. The article was actually called "what colour is gold". In it they talked about manipulating the natural crystal, which is round, to an elongated tube crystal, which completely changed the properties of the gold, yet it was still technically gold. They talked about how this new gold morphed in to different states under the influence of different lasers and also temperature.

All on the nano level mind you.

I cant believe I have just remembered this. Sounds familiar doesnt it!
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a couple things to think about

hydrates are frozen water around "another substance"
an ice prison????

the converted ice cutter/cruise ship ran aground in antarctic 2-4 months ago name "polar star" (feb 3rd)

dr
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So trap Augie or similar type of organism. But the ice is also a crystal of sorts, and might be used in some way by the organism to send an sos?
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"During distracted moments I have been thinking about the Fukushima nuclear incident.

SNIP

I think at this time that the Fukushima reactors went out of control because the cooling systems were being controlled by their Seimens programme, which was affected by the US/Israeli STU.X.NET worm.

SNIP
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I found this on another thread -
Unfucking believable!!! New cybervirus found in Japan / Stuxnet designed to attack off-line servers via USB memory sticks
Stuxnet in the original form has nothing to do with the Japan reactors. Stuxnet was a sophisticated "surgical" strike. The virus laid dormant till it had the target (i.e., PC running Siemens Step 7).

If the computer it jumped to did not have Step 7 it jumped to the next 3 USB keys that were inserted and after that went dormant again.

If it had Siemens Step 7 on the system it attempted to infect the PLCs when they were connected to the laptop via cable.

Now the surgical part... Once on the PLC the virus watches the Profibus messaging system. When it finds an I/O profile that matches that of the centrifuges that were used in Iran it checks the speed of the high speed motor feedback for that of the centrifuge (this speed is fairly high and I/O configuration is nearly unique to these centrifuges). Once the virus determines it has a match it then reduces the motors speed on the centrifuge, and later increases the motor speed, and even later reduces it again. While doing this it masks these changes from the PLC so what is seen on monitoring systems is still the correct speed.

By modifying the speed the system caused problems / sabotaged the enrichment of uranium in these specific centrifuges, which were ironically being used by Iran.

Thus, unless this is a new variant of the original Stuxnet, which is possible but not likely, even if Stuxnet was on their PCs and had infected their PLCs it wouldn't have done anything.

I am not sure about nuclear facilities, but most equipment in Japan is controlled via Omron or Mitsubishi control systems (Japanese Made) and not Siemens (German Made). Over here in the US we use them all Siemens, AB, Omron, Mitsubishi, etc.
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Personally, I like your thinking better. Be very hard to prove what he is saying. But thought it might help you in your thinking on it.
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What is interesting is that Siemens has been behind the nuclear industry shilling on various websites. This was apparently done by a company called "Social Media Today."

Read this: [link to www.salon.com]

"TheEnergyCollective.com is not run directly by Siemens, but rather by a new media PR firm that works for Siemens called Social Media Today."

I don't know how this all fits, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
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I wish I had the time you have BHD. I would do a lot more mate.

The Laws of Thermodynamics and nano behaviour is associated with morphing, hence freezing and augie control. This article seems to contain some info on gold morphing on the nano level associated with temperature. Can't find the whole article without subscription.


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Reconfigurable Assemblies of Shape-Changing Nanorods - ACS Nano ...
by TD Nguyen - 2010 - Cited by 1 - Related articles
21 Apr 2010... that colloidal gold nanorods can be shortened or morphed into other ..... We attribute such asymmetric phase behavior to the building block ..... Bates, F. S.; Fredrickson, G. H. Block Copolymer Thermodynamics: .... Wang, C. R. C. The Shape Transition of Gold Nanorods Langmuir 1999, 15, 701– 709 ...
pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nn901725b





if something living was trapped in a crystal...superman/soul gem...hhmmm

could it still communicate...ask for help


suxnet worm...big possibilities...does it effect allen bradleys, etc too?? if so all process controls are suspect

including refineries, conventional power production, very possibilly grid management, transportation (railroads switching traffic signals) the list is infinite

now what if somebody that DIDN't (originally) write the worm, send it back, or uummm, took control of issuing new marching orders???

by the way
bezerker voyeur since day one
everybody here is amazing
if we are doomed at least it was seen here first
(not much damn'd consolation though)

dr
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Yeah, that is really interesting. I mentioned that nano and other really tiny things often dont seem to work within the rules set out by our science. Its something many scientists are wrangling with in the new nano sciences. Colour and vibration, and how other seemingly disparate influences effect nano crystals are some of those challenges.

There was talk about giant mono crystals yesterday on chat.

As a singular giant crystal, could they possibly also react differently to our normal scientific rules?

I am trying to find an article in a Scientific Australian magazine, which is about 6 years old now, on just this. They list a whole raft of peculiar characteristics that nano crystals display. They even mentioned gold. The article was actually called "what colour is gold". In it they talked about manipulating the natural crystal, which is round, to an elongated tube crystal, which completely changed the properties of the gold, yet it was still technically gold. They talked about how this new gold morphed in to different states under the influence of different lasers and also temperature.

All on the nano level mind you.

I cant believe I have just remembered this. Sounds familiar doesnt it!
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maybe the whole hydrate mess in the gulf is a big clue
when everyone everywhere was screaming (including myself) that BP would blow us up.....

what if the hydrate formation locks up a molecule or two of augie?
that the injection of the "substance into sea water" from deepwater was the first real attack (on augie, if he is "oily/gassy)
this would add to why someone would blow DH
it was an attack to freeze him to the bottom of the gulf by venting him into the water/press/temp conditions that were perfect for it
someone else didn't like that
this could mean all splash zones are not actually secure, only frozen
and if you think about a frozen water crystal that locks up something else could you call the inside of the hydrate

an abyess, void, a simplistic concept of a star gate

also the problem of fighting is critically flawed because its based upon our knowledge of phases of matter
which is grossly wrong in specific places (supercritical, superconductor, etc (not our plasma catchall bs))

(hint its not just pressure and temp, try adding "wave" forces (mag, electro, static....) and a rotational correction

makes an enthalpy chart go 3d
my god, I can hear the black copters

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I wish I had the time you have BHD. I would do a lot more mate.

The Laws of Thermodynamics and nano behaviour is associated with morphing, hence freezing and augie control. This article seems to contain some info on gold morphing on the nano level associated with temperature. Can't find the whole article without subscription.


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ww.springerlink.com/index/P486X62W0874187L.pdf - Similar
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Reconfigurable Assemblies of Shape-Changing Nanorods - ACS Nano ...
by TD Nguyen - 2010 - Cited by 1 - Related articles
21 Apr 2010... that colloidal gold nanorods can be shortened or morphed into other ..... We attribute such asymmetric phase behavior to the building block ..... Bates, F. S.; Fredrickson, G. H. Block Copolymer Thermodynamics: .... Wang, C. R. C. The Shape Transition of Gold Nanorods Langmuir 1999, 15, 701– 709 ...
pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nn901725b





if something living was trapped in a crystal...superman/soul gem...hhmmm

could it still communicate...ask for help


suxnet worm...big possibilities...does it effect allen bradleys, etc too?? if so all process controls are suspect

including refineries, conventional power production, very possibilly grid management, transportation (railroads switching traffic signals) the list is infinite

now what if somebody that DIDN't (originally) write the worm, send it back, or uummm, took control of issuing new marching orders???

by the way
bezerker voyeur since day one
everybody here is amazing
if we are doomed at least it was seen here first
(not much damn'd consolation though)

dr
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Yeah, that is really interesting. I mentioned that nano and other really tiny things often dont seem to work within the rules set out by our science. Its something many scientists are wrangling with in the new nano sciences. Colour and vibration, and how other seemingly disparate influences effect nano crystals are some of those challenges.

There was talk about giant mono crystals yesterday on chat.

As a singular giant crystal, could they possibly also react differently to our normal scientific rules?

I am trying to find an article in a Scientific Australian magazine, which is about 6 years old now, on just this. They list a whole raft of peculiar characteristics that nano crystals display. They even mentioned gold. The article was actually called "what colour is gold". In it they talked about manipulating the natural crystal, which is round, to an elongated tube crystal, which completely changed the properties of the gold, yet it was still technically gold. They talked about how this new gold morphed in to different states under the influence of different lasers and also temperature.

All on the nano level mind you.

I cant believe I have just remembered this. Sounds familiar doesnt it!
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Bingo, thanks champ! I wish I had more time too! I work from home, so I'm usually in front of my computer.

Haha, I was actually looking for a physical magazine. I found it..... at our local GP's reception. I gave it away, but it still survives! Must grab it back some day soon.
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even more ??????

from wiki (yea, I know cruddy source, blaaa)

Piezoelectricity (pronounced /piˌeɪzoʊˌilɛkˈtrɪsɪt​i/) is the charge which accumulates in certain solid materials (notably crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins)[1] in response to applied mechanical strain. The word piezoelectricity means electricity resulting from pressure. It is derived from the Greek piezo or piezein (πιέζειν), which means to squeeze or press, and electric or electron (ήλεκτρον), which stands for amber, an ancient source of electric charge.[2] Piezoelectricity is the direct result of the piezoelectric effect

The piezoelectric effect is generally thought to act as a biological force sensor.[11][12] This effect was exploited by research conducted at the University of Pennsylvania in the late 1970s and early 1980s, which established that sustained application of electrical potential could stimulate both resorption and growth (depending on the polarity) of bone in-vivo.[13] Further studies in the 1990s provided the mathematical equation to confirm long bone wave propagation as to that of hexagonal (Class 6) crystals.[14

could we be more "tuned/tied" than we realize?
especially if (parts of)augie is turned into a crystal?
our constant feeling of the "screws being tightened"
how about our tuned quartz in everything (microprocessors)
the original blue tooth
could be why the world wide info crunch is in full swing

and...just gotta say... the lead edge of the destroying wave in japan seemed damned black at its edge...right at the beginning...terraforming?

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even more ??????

from wiki (yea, I know cruddy source, blaaa)

Piezoelectricity is the charge which accumulates in certain solid materials (notably crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins)[1] in response to applied mechanical strain. The word piezoelectricity means electricity resulting from pressure. It is derived from the Greek piezo or piezein, which means to squeeze or press, and electric or electron, which stands for amber, an ancient source of electric charge.[2] Piezoelectricity is the direct result of the piezoelectric effect

The piezoelectric effect is generally thought to act as a biological force sensor.[11][12] This effect was exploited by research conducted at the University of Pennsylvania in the late 1970s and early 1980s, which established that sustained application of electrical potential could stimulate both resorption and growth (depending on the polarity) of bone in-vivo.[13] Further studies in the 1990s provided the mathematical equation to confirm long bone wave propagation as to that of hexagonal (Class 6) crystals.[14

could we be more "tuned/tied" than we realize?
especially if (parts of)augie is turned into a crystal?
our constant feeling of the "screws being tightened"
how about our tuned quartz in everything (microprocessors)
the original blue tooth
could be why the world wide info crunch is in full swing

and...just gotta say... the lead edge of the destroying wave in japan seemed damned black at its edge...right at the beginning...terraforming?

dr
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If the increasing or releasing of pressure on crystals, ceramics, rocks, etc can be detected and measured geologically from near the pressure source, with some sort of portable electronic gadget, the ability to 'map' underground 'tensions' would be vastly enhanced.

Perhaps the ability to reasonably accurately predict eq's could be realized?

Using an EMP on them may allow for a 'controlled' release of tension as crystals will vibrate when a potential-difference is applied across it.
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from wiki (yea, I know cruddy source, blaaa)

Piezoelectricity is the charge which accumulates in certain solid materials (notably crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins)[1] in response to applied mechanical strain. The word piezoelectricity means electricity resulting from pressure. It is derived from the Greek piezo or piezein, which means to squeeze or press, and electric or electron, which stands for amber, an ancient source of electric charge.[2] Piezoelectricity is the direct result of the piezoelectric effect

The piezoelectric effect is generally thought to act as a biological force sensor.[11][12] This effect was exploited by research conducted at the University of Pennsylvania in the late 1970s and early 1980s, which established that sustained application of electrical potential could stimulate both resorption and growth (depending on the polarity) of bone in-vivo.[13] Further studies in the 1990s provided the mathematical equation to confirm long bone wave propagation as to that of hexagonal (Class 6) crystals.[14

could we be more "tuned/tied" than we realize?
especially if (parts of)augie is turned into a crystal?
our constant feeling of the "screws being tightened"
how about our tuned quartz in everything (microprocessors)
the original blue tooth
could be why the world wide info crunch is in full swing

and...just gotta say... the lead edge of the destroying wave in japan seemed damned black at its edge...right at the beginning...terraforming?

dr
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If the increasing or releasing of pressure on crystals, ceramics, rocks, etc can be detected and measured geologically from near the pressure source, with some sort of portable electronic gadget, the ability to 'map' underground 'tensions' would be vastly enhanced.

Perhaps the ability to reasonably accurately predict eq's could be realized?
Using an EMP on them may allow for a 'controlled' release of tension as crystals will vibrate when a potential-difference is applied across it.
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you mean like this....
the post on Chronicles thread on 3/17/11...this one...by ENROUTE

TTM KPO RFA BANGKOK EST TARGET / ARV 48:00 IMB (CLEAR ZONE ALERT)
PPA TXR DSM MALAYSIA EST TARGET / ARV 72:00 IMB (CLEAR ZONE ALERT) by poster ENROUTE...

The prediction that gave people 48+72 hours or 5 days to clear the zone????

ok..then the quake on 3/24 in Bangkok/Malaysia with the epicenter in the exact same spot as the post from the Chronicles thread was indicating, fully one week prior to the actual quake????....

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Spin one up centripedal. Spin one down centrifugal.

Is every snowflake getting the same data set?





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