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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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Agapao? I cant seem to find your email address........
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saw this and thought of y'all
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Whaaat? No picture? We have to wait on the runway collection?
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Just had another interesting thought regarding the original DWH platform.

We always assume that rigs are there to pump oil and gas up from the sea floor. If possible, pipe lines carry the product to easier areas of distribution.

Where this isnt possible, in very deep water for instance, vessels have the product directly piped aboard, sometimes via a refinery ship, and then on to tankers.

We always assume this process is one way....

How about A-Whale, fully laden with corexit and other monstrousities, uses the rig to pump this crap DOWN to the sea bed, and into the ground... to see what happens?

If this was occuring a year, or months prior, to ellicit a response.... the whole disaster makes more sense, dont you think?

Still working on the hole in the helipad, which I now dont think came from above at all, but rather from below, possibly a sub launched weapon.

If the water around these subs was overly magnetised, what effect would that have on a metal rig?

Its worth revisiting some of this stuff.
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True, we never came to a conclusion abut the actual purpose of A-Whale.

About the helipad, based on a variety of evidence, a lot of us determined (at least in our own minds) that the hole was caused by explosives inside a ship container that was sitting on the pad. A couple of posts from folk inside the oil industry explained that rigs are regularly supplied by lifting the cargo containers full of supplied onto the rig. The hole was in the shape and size of a container.

The less certain matter is what was used to ignite explosives inside the container. Based upon content in the thread, we have several reasonable ideas for consideration.
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42 seconds of your time ...

Shooting on the BP rig ?

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bump

Yup could see the flashes ... oh owwwww ...
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Please recall that way back in this thread a poster brought up the “X” Files tv series:

Wiki: “As the series goes along, Mulder and Scully learn about evidence of the alien invasion piece by piece. It is revealed that the extraterrestrials plan on using a sentient virus, known as the black oil, to infect mankind and turn the population of the world into a slave race. The Syndicate—having made a deal to be spared by the aliens—have been working to develop an alien-human hybrid that will be able to withstand the effects of the black oil. The group has also been secretly working on a vaccine to overcome the black oil; this vaccine is later revealed ..."

In particular the oil rig episode:

“Doggett and Mulder unwillingly team up investigating an oil rig where some mysterious murders have happened and the possibility of the Black Cancer being involved is a haunting reality.”

Wasn’t there shooting on board the oil rig in that episode?
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I DO still have the tape on my window....

42 seconds of your time ...

Shooting on the BP rig ?

[link to www.youtube.com]
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bump

Yup could see the flashes ... oh owwwww ...
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Please recall that way back in this thread a poster brought up the “X” Files tv series:

Wiki: “As the series goes along, Mulder and Scully learn about evidence of the alien invasion piece by piece. It is revealed that the extraterrestrials plan on using a sentient virus, known as the black oil, to infect mankind and turn the population of the world into a slave race. The Syndicate—having made a deal to be spared by the aliens—have been working to develop an alien-human hybrid that will be able to withstand the effects of the black oil. The group has also been secretly working on a vaccine to overcome the black oil; this vaccine is later revealed ..."

In particular the oil rig episode:

“Doggett and Mulder unwillingly team up investigating an oil rig where some mysterious murders have happened and the possibility of the Black Cancer being involved is a haunting reality.”

Wasn’t there shooting on board the oil rig in that episode?
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True, we never came to a conclusion abut the actual purpose of A-Whale.

About the helipad, based on a variety of evidence, a lot of us determined (at least in our own minds) that the hole was caused by explosives inside a ship container that was sitting on the pad. A couple of posts from folk inside the oil industry explained that rigs are regularly supplied by lifting the cargo containers full of supplied onto the rig. The hole was in the shape and size of a container.

The less certain matter is what was used to ignite explosives inside the container. Based upon content in the thread, we have several reasonable ideas for consideration.
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There were the flashes of light from above, during the explosion too.

But in my wierd head, that says to look down rather than up. They want us to look up.

If the explosive device was in a container, the 'shot' to ignite it may have come from below, and the beam we see in the vid is not from above at all, but a split second after ignition?

How about a shipping container full of thermite or thermate?
Hot enough to melt through it's mown container, and then through the helipad.

We also know that shipping containers fall off ships, and go missing all over the world.........
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thermite or thermate? yesmate! nicemate ;-))
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thermite or thermate? yesmate! nicemate ;-))
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Work has stopped in the bayou and there is a thread today:

Thread: LA sinkhole - All work stopped.

The following is a good, relevant post from that thread from someone who appears to know what they talk about:

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03/23/2013 03:50 AM

"Re: LA sinkhole - All work stopped.
That oxy 3, an injection well, l was drilled after the sinkhole started.

I have never been able to figure that out.

Back in the summer, I studied that Napoleanville Map, and looked at ALL the wells listed on it. I believe the oldest ones are from the 1940s, some had leaked, at least one had radioactive substances, and the official well record for most wells is coded as 'unknown' for the substance the well is holding. And, at least one cannot be found at it's official coordinates.

There is almost 70 years of swiss cheese like intrusions at the Napoleanville site, extending well beyond those tanks, 70, back to the farmland that Authorities blamed the radioation readings on that they received in that early scanning flyover of the area.

Without proper records, having allowed this area to be a dumping ground for numerous volatile chemicals on one hand, while allowing wells to be dug and petroleum products to be searched for and extracted, The State of Louisiana has created this FUBAR of its own volition. This is what happens when industry has more power than the rights of common citizens, when greed thrumps ethical behaviors.

Well, I am falling asleep as I write this...so I must end.

I hope this thread continues for the morning crowd to see, and I hope our members from the area are now safe from harm.

Jindal wants to blame Texas Brine, but, as I extensively pointed out in last summer, early videos already showed tree death well away from that sinkhole site, on the opposite side.

This is really a failure of government shortsightedness, the lack of proper research-especially in dangerous fields, putting untrained people in powerful jobs who rely on the words of people who pay well to get their agendas approved at all costs, lack of oversite, and, complacency. If you allow Pandora's Box to be built and filled, it's in your best interest to make certain all hell doesn't break loose."
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imo, the trained whale, whose burned body was found after the DWH fire, carried the detonator for the explosion. All the pieces fit for that part of the puzzle.

We also had unconfirmed reports (local) that a submarine(s) had been spotted in the area of DWH prior to the explosion.

I do not understand why there would be gunfire aboard the rig. Currently, best theory is that an opposition to the planned DWH event hired an experienced patrol to board the rig and stop a planned explosion.


True, we never came to a conclusion abut the actual purpose of A-Whale.

About the helipad, based on a variety of evidence, a lot of us determined (at least in our own minds) that the hole was caused by explosives inside a ship container that was sitting on the pad. A couple of posts from folk inside the oil industry explained that rigs are regularly supplied by lifting the cargo containers full of supplied onto the rig. The hole was in the shape and size of a container.

The less certain matter is what was used to ignite explosives inside the container. Based upon content in the thread, we have several reasonable ideas for consideration.
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There were the flashes of light from above, during the explosion too.

But in my wierd head, that says to look down rather than up. They want us to look up.

If the explosive device was in a container, the 'shot' to ignite it may have come from below, and the beam we see in the vid is not from above at all, but a split second after ignition?

How about a shipping container full of thermite or thermate?
Hot enough to melt through it's mown container, and then through the helipad.

We also know that shipping containers fall off ships, and go missing all over the world.........
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Bayou Corne Salt Dome is now "Code 3" which is as high as you go in the code values.

Following c/p from the other thread:

"What happened was that BP in all their wisdom, attempted to divert the Gulf oil spill backwards up into the cottage cheese salt dome areas of LA. They failed.

It is no coincidence that the Bayou Corne sinkhole is shaped into a pentagon perimeter."
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thermite or thermate? yesmate! nicemate ;-))
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that's very clever
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Work has stopped in the bayou and there is a thread today:

Thread: LA sinkhole - All work stopped.

The following is a good, relevant post from that thread from someone who appears to know what they talk about:

User ID: 26943919
United States
03/23/2013 03:50 AM

"Re: LA sinkhole - All work stopped.
That oxy 3, an injection well, l was drilled after the sinkhole started.

I have never been able to figure that out.

Back in the summer, I studied that Napoleanville Map, and looked at ALL the wells listed on it. I believe the oldest ones are from the 1940s, some had leaked, at least one had radioactive substances, and the official well record for most wells is coded as 'unknown' for the substance the well is holding. And, at least one cannot be found at it's official coordinates.

There is almost 70 years of swiss cheese like intrusions at the Napoleanville site, extending well beyond those tanks, 70, back to the farmland that Authorities blamed the radioation readings on that they received in that early scanning flyover of the area.

Without proper records, having allowed this area to be a dumping ground for numerous volatile chemicals on one hand, while allowing wells to be dug and petroleum products to be searched for and extracted, The State of Louisiana has created this FUBAR of its own volition. This is what happens when industry has more power than the rights of common citizens, when greed thrumps ethical behaviors.

Well, I am falling asleep as I write this...so I must end.

I hope this thread continues for the morning crowd to see, and I hope our members from the area are now safe from harm.

Jindal wants to blame Texas Brine, but, as I extensively pointed out in last summer, early videos already showed tree death well away from that sinkhole site, on the opposite side.

This is really a failure of government shortsightedness, the lack of proper research-especially in dangerous fields, putting untrained people in powerful jobs who rely on the words of people who pay well to get their agendas approved at all costs, lack of oversite, and, complacency. If you allow Pandora's Box to be built and filled, it's in your best interest to make certain all hell doesn't break loose."
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imo, the trained whale, whose burned body was found after the DWH fire, carried the detonator for the explosion. All the pieces fit for that part of the puzzle.

We also had unconfirmed reports (local) that a submarine(s) had been spotted in the area of DWH prior to the explosion.

I do not understand why there would be gunfire aboard the rig. Currently, best theory is that an opposition to the planned DWH event hired an experienced patrol to board the rig and stop a planned explosion.


True, we never came to a conclusion abut the actual purpose of A-Whale.

About the helipad, based on a variety of evidence, a lot of us determined (at least in our own minds) that the hole was caused by explosives inside a ship container that was sitting on the pad. A couple of posts from folk inside the oil industry explained that rigs are regularly supplied by lifting the cargo containers full of supplied onto the rig. The hole was in the shape and size of a container.

The less certain matter is what was used to ignite explosives inside the container. Based upon content in the thread, we have several reasonable ideas for consideration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36739107


There were the flashes of light from above, during the explosion too.

But in my wierd head, that says to look down rather than up. They want us to look up.

If the explosive device was in a container, the 'shot' to ignite it may have come from below, and the beam we see in the vid is not from above at all, but a split second after ignition?

How about a shipping container full of thermite or thermate?
Hot enough to melt through it's mown container, and then through the helipad.

We also know that shipping containers fall off ships, and go missing all over the world.........
 Quoting: BadHairDay

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Bayou Corne Salt Dome is now "Code 3" which is as high as you go in the code values.

Following c/p from the other thread:

"What happened was that BP in all their wisdom, attempted to divert the Gulf oil spill backwards up into the cottage cheese salt dome areas of LA. They failed.

It is no coincidence that the Bayou Corne sinkhole is shaped into a pentagon perimeter."
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The planning, and records for these domes isnt the best. Avery Island for instance, has many interesting 'clients'.

But when a client goes out of business, or the company changes hands... who is left with the responsibility?

Ages back I posted a whole heap of info on the Texas Railway Commission, and their link to Texas brine, and for that matter, the oil cartels. It's all linked.

Ultimately Texas Brine is under the charter of Texas Railways commission, as most of the brine is taken away from these domes as super saturated saline, which is pumped via pipe, truck, train or chained tailings ponds for slow release in to the environment.

Texas Rail Way controls the first three methods of disposal.

But - from a legal perspective, NO-ONE is physically responsible for the cracked caverns, it seems.

You see, Texas Brine only OWN the air space they created, and not the salt around it. This applies to just about all non-government lease holders too.

As this escalates, the various stake holders at domes such as the one at Avery Island, Napolionville, and the Tatum dome in Lamar County, south Mississippi, will no doubt hit the headlines more and more.

But who will be taking responsibility? Most of these domes contain a degree of radioactive waste from drilling oil, frack waste. Avery Island goes even further... yet has some major food producers near by, and Tatum is something I bet about 0.1% of Americans even know happened.

The effects are much better when you google them yourselves.

Now that we've pretty much established there is movement along, under and throughout the salt dome networks, I am beginning to wonder if all the upset over fracking is missguided rage?

Fracking may indeed be a form of relief valve, to vent pressures building up from all this mess created by petro companies. It would explain the ridiculous speed and fever granting licences that clearly will hurt local resident's water sources. Greed is an easy cover for that.

The comment above, or c/p above showing a local who did some local research on the domes is brilliant. Most of us are stuck with doctored, or worse still, deliberately placed bread crumbs to follow up on, via the net.

Was hoping more local knowledge would start surfacing.

What an interesting last couple of pages!! The sub and platform stuff has brought back some interesting recollections too. Forgot about that poor old dead whale.
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Check out these photo's :

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Link with more images:
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I remembered a saved post from our friend "T" over at the C-site:


btw for those that havent understood the surface meaning of the title, H stands for Helipad

pics of DWH and Oslo attacks, have a closer look and tell me what you think caused the damage especially visible in Oslo as we have more evidence (association of these 2 prompted me to guesstimate the others)

remember the magnetic resonance signature of a helipad due to size, material and orientation is an easy target from space

im still not convinced that the actual oil rig in the Gulf disaster was the intended target, i am under the impression that the real target was sitting directly under the platform on the sea floor, the same kind of target that was hit during the boxing day tsunami in the Pacific and more recently off the coast of Japan and maybe even off the coast of Chile

were where those capsules going again BEZERKers?
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tin foil (lots of it) will only create a resonant signature for the targeting system to lock on

(((1,2,3 and 4 were images which I dont have saved...)))

1. + 2. alternatively a large plate (or many put together) of metal placed flat looking up at the sky will be a any easy target for a space based scalar device like the one phill was so kind to provide schematics of

3. even a large amount of the very dense metal we call gold can provide an unmistakable electromagnetic signature for this space based weapons system to target

4. furthermore, the steel reinforcing plates of an underground bunker would emit a similar signature, readily identifiable from space

all this of course is made possible if one had a detector refined and powerful enough to 'see' these resonant sinatures
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I had also copied a post from him about scalar weapons and a German sub ...


"In the March 1919 issue of *Electrical Experimenter* magazine, details of the Roger's underground communication system were released. This system was later classified SECRET and used to communicate with submarines during World War I. It involved using frequencies through the ground and water. The signals were 5,000 times stronger than signals through the air.

For instance, in 1977, Louis Kervran won the Nobel Prize for showing that plants and animals (his main experiments were with chickens) use "scalar wave" type technology to transmute elements, for instance, turning potassium into calcium. This is impossible according to the "laws" of
physics currently taught in schools. The ruling Elite does not want you "common folk" to have this type of knowledge, as it will undermine their control over you. So the "laws" they teach are WRONG.

While the oil barons sabotaged Nikola Tesla's efforts to provide cheap or free energy to the world, the Russians took an interest in his material and developed it.

Nikita Kruschev asked his physicists, specifically Pyorte (Peter) Kapitsa, to develop a system for total defense against missiles and aircraft. By studying Tesla and others they were successful and, in 1960, Kruschev announced the development of a "fantastic" Soviet weapon, one that could destroy all life on the world. ("Kruschev Says Soviets Will Cut Forces a Third; Sees 'Fantastic Weapon'," by Max Frankel, *New York Times,* Jan. 15, 1960, p. 1.)"

Edit to add: KREMPP made a similar announcement in the early stages of his second term as President of the Russian Federation (think ODESSA)



"The Heusinger Wehrmacht were involved in the space race (remember, it was the Germans who started rockets, "flying saucers," etc.). The book *Heusinger of the Fourth Reich* by Charles R. Allen, Jr., said: "The conservative columnist Edgar Ansel Mower on September 28, 1962 reported that the West German newspaper *Die Welt* of Hamburg devoted a lengthy series to the vigorous efforts being made by the West German Defense Ministry to perfect 'death rays' (LASERS) which, when fired from a space platform, 'WOULD BURN, VAPORIZE, DESTROY ANY KNOWN MATTER AND MATERIAL BY ITS FANTASTIC ENERGY CONCENTRATION OF MILLIONS OF WATTS and, from the DISTANCE OF THE MOON, WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 1.3 SECONDS TO KILL." (*Long Island Daily Press,* September 28, 1962). Note they were talking, in 1962, of lasers from a Moon base.

<snipped>


"The National Investigations Committee On Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) was founded in 1956 by Navy physicist Thomas Townsend Brown. Brown is known as the discoverer of the electrogravitic capacitance effect. He was former Vice President of Douglas Aircraft (one of the founding groups of the RAND Corporation). NICAP gained a reputation as being a CIA front operation. For many years it was headed by Marine Major Donald Keyhoe.

In *Der Weltraum Rueckt Uns Nagher, Blanvalet Verlag,* Chapter III, by; Major Keyhoe, he says that the U.S. infiltrated 600 scientists into Bohemia in tank crew uniforms, in 1945, to check out some of the U.F.O. bases. Vice-Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, a former director of the CIA, was a board member of NICAP for years."

edit to add: is it getting a little familiar yet? well with RAND in the picture and all, rrr,,






"*Cosmic Patriot Files* (currently available from ads in UFO publications and most UFO book dealers) says in *Vol. 2*, p. 131 that in 1945 the Germans began transferring their flying saucer projects to a secret underground base near the South Pole. Also in 1945, General Hans Kammler disappeared from Germany and went to the South Pole on German U-Boat U-977, and German flying saucers began appearing over the United States."

edit to add: aco is going to have a field day with this thread i imagine
in case you cant read german, the bottom zoomed section is very precise diving and vectoring instructions for a sub entering under the Antarctic ice cap to reach.... (fill it in yourself)


"If you look at a map of Antarctica you will see that a portion of Queen Maud Land is called new Schwabenland. This is the part of the continent nearest to South Africa. The Germans made a major expedition to this area in 1938-1939 and began the construction of a major base. For details of this expedition, see the book by Friedrich. This book has pictures of the *warmwater* ponds and other information that will surprise you. It has maps showing that Admiral Byrd's Operation Highjump (Naval Task Force 68) military invasion landed on the side opposite the German bases. The book tells of a major food item in the area called krill. Ever heard of "Krill?" The maps of Operation Highjump say that they left the German side of the continent unexplored."


The OMEGA File : RUDOLPH HESS AND SECRET GERMAN SPACE BASE [link to www.think-aboutit.com]

Hans-Ulrich Rudel, a frequent guest speaker in German military and political circles. Rudel was the man groomed by Hitler to become his successor. It is known that Rudel made FREQUENT trips to Tierra del Fuego at the tip of South America nearest Antarctica.

The "El Mercurio" and "Der Weg" papers told of a large submarine convoy discovered by the British Navy at the end of WW II.

A map from a Spanish book called "Is Hitler Alive?" with the route of the Fuhrer convoy shows it passed alongside South Georgia Island, where later a secret underground base was the focus of a secret battle during the Falkland Islands War.

On April 4, 1944 at 4:40 a.m. the German submarine U-859 left on a mysterious mission carrying 67 men and 33 tons of mercury sealed in glass bottles in watertight tin crates. The sub was sunk by a British submarine and most of the crew died. One survivor on his death bed about 30 years later told about the expensive cargo and some divers checked out his story and found the mercury. For what purpose was this mercury to be used? And where were they trying to take it? (apparently mercury is theoretically usable as a fuel source for certain forms of aerospace propulsion. - Branton)

edit to add: Mercury? Org? BEZERK? subs? the crown?



"The newspaper *France Soir* had the following account: "Almost 1-1/2 years after cessation of hostilities in Europe, the Islandic Whaler, "Juliana" was stopped by a large German U-boat. The Juliana was in the Antarctic region around Malvinas [now Falkland] Islands when a German submarine surfaced and raised the German official naval Flag of Mourning - red with a black edge.

The submarine commander sent out a boarding party, which approached the Juliana in a rubber dinghy, and having boarded the whaler demanded of Capt. Hekla part of his fresh food stocks. The request was made in the definite tone of an order to which resistance would have been unwise. The German officer spoke a correct English and paid for his provisions in U.S. dollars, giving the Captain a bonus of $10 for each member of the Juliana crew. Whilst the food stuffs were being transferred to the submarine, the submarine commander informed Capt. Hekla of the exact location of a large school of whales. Later the Juliana found the school of whales where designated."

The French *Agence France Press* on 25 September 1946, said: "The continuous rumours about German U-boat activity in the region of Tierra del Fuego (Feuerland, in German), between the southernmost tip of Latin America and the continent of Antarctica are based on true happenings.""

edit to add: The Falklands? ... (lol))





Quote from: Kat on Today at 06:49:13 PM
is 'krill' in any way related to the german 'vrill' ?


yes
someone is attentive!!
well maybe is A Whale food

sure enough the thread title should of rang some bells too

a lot to digest in this avalanche, and i'm cutting short on the history recall, wait till i get to more recent events not found on the net or in public books
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The last part of that WHALER Juliana just reminds me of what OP/Aco told us about the 88 dead and the take-over of that Israeli sub ... (see OP ONLY's)


QUOTES from OP ONLY:
1- -OP 1:56 AM 7/23/2010 Good day, I just want you to know that at 01:18 this morning paris time 2us reported that they Observed around 88 dead on an abandoned cuban registered surface vessel. (my girlfriend think most may be cuban refugees, but I'm not sure) 2us captain reported monitoring a chinese vessel giving "limited" assistance to a US surface vessel who was towing and evacuating the cuban vessel. the US surface Vessel was NOT from the US Coast Guard but they followed high level bio quarantine procedure (translation problem)


2- -OP 7:52 AM 8/4/2010 (pag 375) Good day, there are many serious Going on and I will try and post a Summary later but first I want to inform you of a very very unusual Occurrence.
18 hours ago Manthatisi appeared on DED (This is very unexpected)
Reading Chatter between Mistral and other assets it seems they are all surprised by the sudden appearance of Manthatisi in the theatre.
High command is still asking for proof positive identification that this is indeed the SAS Manthatisi and what power source is used. They don't understand how the batteries can last this long. (My girlfriend says it is strange that "they" could track the Missouri but the Manthatisi just suddenly appeared undetected until it was within 3 nautical miles from the rim) There was a crisis alert for about two hours when It was nearly attacked by a German submarine. 2us has informed Mistral that this submarine, whether or not its the Manthatisi, is definitely Also fitted with a Calibrator with 2x the range



Could "rim" be a shorty for R? Island M? .... or Romeo (or Rendez-vous) I? M?
instead of an actual geological rim ?

3- -OP 1:10 PM 8/13/2010 Good day, this is 8hours old. <snip>
KremPP has issued the following standing order to all russian vessels and those of friendly interest in all four theaters::
all submersible strategic, commercial or private research assets to stay below surface and at least 150 feet below periscope depth and run silent for the next 72 hours + 48 hour twilight Alert
all surface vessels to resume t-o-k-e-r-r-romp standby positions and relay when they are in position on vector channels ONLY
the above includes all Odessa Fleet assets as per protocol update as annexed in Paris/Moscow codicil
if engagement arise follow said protocol
Mistral requesting 2us to comply. Mistral already in r-o-m-p position. standby
(difficulty with translation)

-OP 1:39 PM
<snip>

-OP 2:06 PM Missouri excepting protocol after GCP quarantine proved successful, transfer complete. US Navy onboard with Odessa.. ... Israeli submarine cornered with no escape. Sampson option disabled by rogue crew (US Navy Operatives onboard Israeli submarine giving Golgotha confirmation) Chinese assets not responding. But not regarded as hostile. standby

-OP 8:08 8/15/2010 Good day, very quiet on DED, assets waiting and running silent.

<snip>

-OP 3:11 PM One Odessa asset has broken Protocol and is on DED

-OP 3:17 PM It's a Norwegian surface vessel

-OP 3:21 PM It's reporting on DED that the new Israeli submarine has surfaced 80 meters on starboard side, says vector channel not working

-OP 3:26 PM forward hatch opened, some crew climbing out onto deck of israeli submarine

-OP 3:30 PM some crew members are armed, 12 crew members are tied behind their backs and being led onto deck by 5 armed crewmembers. possible prisoner situation

-OP 3:35 PM two body's bags carried onto deck, body bags not empty ( I don't know who the Norwegian captain is reporting to because Mistral is still silent, could be a general report on DED to all vessels)

-OP 1:55 PM 8/17/2010 Good day, a summary about the new Israeli submarine.
They tried to enter a new cavity
in a collapsed pipe but was stopped by a Chinese submarine. It tried to leave but was cornered by Odessa assets. A Norwegian vessel broke protocol to inform about the Israeli submarine surfacing close to its position. The Norwegian vessel did not take prisoners aboard as speculated in this thread. The so called "prisoners" were put on deck/topside of the submarine. A surface vessel with a US Flag but no further insignia approached the submarine. (two hours) The "prisoner's" were then transferred to the US ship. What seems to be a relief crew then boarded the Israeli submarine and it submerged about 40 minutes after boarding. It has since disappeared from DED. I Assume it has left the GOM theatre. The Sampson Device was disabled. We don't know what the Israeli submarine was trying to achieve. Speculations are ripe but now void. Our main concern now is with Crescent Moon and the Chinese factor.


What if that vessel tried to use the old cavity/tunnel to flee or "designate and destroy" the secret base in Antarctica in Maud Land (Where the new Elizabeth station is next to that 5-sided pyramid!!!)


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In the above post you could read that "T" spoke about > Rudel ,the man groomed by Hitler to become his successor, who made FREQUENT trips to Tierra del Fuego

While sniffing through my saved posts, I saw this old post from Aco with also a reference to Fuego in the article :

A team of Brazilian and Chilean scientists set out to investigate the effects of global climate change deep in the ice covered Antarctic continent say they have discovered a surprising system of rivers beneath the frozen surface.

The team of 17 specialists made their observations at the Union glacier just 1,000km from the South Pole along the 84th parallel far inside the interior of the Chilean Antarctic Territory.

The investigators were studying the effects of global climate change in the interior of the southernmost continent, which is almost completely covered in ice and glaciers.

Though Antarctica has a varied topography including mountains and valleys and has been known to have massive lakes deep beneath the ice, the team of glaciologists and cryosphere specialists say finding running water in liquid form in the area they did was astonishing.

"We're talking about an altitude of seven or 800m in the area we observed, with temperatures normally at 15 or 20 degrees [Celsius] below zero. Therefore, finding running water is a special phenomenon," said exploration team member Ricardo Jana and Chilean Antarctic Institute Glaciologist and researcher for the Centre for Quarternary Fuego-Patagonia and Antarctic Studies.

One of the Brazilian researchers, Jefferson Simoes, the director of Brazil's National Cryosphere Institute says they still need to study the origin of the rivers before drawing any conclusions.

"With Antarctica's wind we have some doubts. It could be warming or it could be, as we have seen many times before, melted ice water," Simoes said.

The team left an automated laboratory just 670km from the South Pole which continues to send them vital readings including temperature, carbon dioxide and other atmospheric readings in real-time.

They also brought back with them a 100m sample of ice which will help them study atmospheric changes in Antarctica over the past 300 years.


Read more: [link to www.3news.co.nz]
 Quoting: post from Aco -long ago-


The connection with FUEGO !!!!

The Old [Hitler] Germans must have known about the rivers beneath the Antarctic ice and the "hot wells" down there.

We know that much of Hitler's secrets and scientists were bought up by the US and infiltrated in their top-secret projects...


The main questions now are :
- How much of Antarctica's streaming rivers was known by those who became US-property ?
- Is the assumed Secret German Base at Antarctica still in OLD German/Vrill hands?
Or is it confiscated by the US and ODESSA?
Or by the Chinese ?
And did the Israeli sub tried to reach The Base through tunnels and cavity's and destroy (Sampson) it ?

We are looking at 3 factions (imo):
- Odessa
- China allied
- Israeli

They all are interested in the ice cloaked-buried mysteries ...
and in what we have called AUgie ...


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Hi Krisperer. I remember T's posts on the helipad. The part I had issue with was that the helipad is part of the rig, which is also steel, so a space targetting system would not distinguish either, if based purely on metal composition.

J Lear also believes in the space platform, and that it was used in the 911 attacks, and is implied by Dr Judy Wood also.

I'm gonna go with my gut though, and more conventional weapons like the suggested thermite/ate container on the pad, ignited from within, or below.

The renewed interest for me isnt in the rig itself, more in the notion that it could be used in a reversed format.
It could be used to pump down the nasty stuff, deep into the mantle, to illicite a response.

I am relooking at Awhale, and where it was, what it's journey was, as corexit, is produced en-mass in other countries with less stringent environmental laws.

I always wondered how they got so much of it down to the sea floor, and it was staring me in the face the whole time.

The 'layers' is the key to it. Natural layers of brine, fresh, colder, hotter etc water that acts as a barrier to the next layer, able to support key elements, tuned to that layer, to stay put, and habbitate that layer.

Remember the post on the (real) whales using the layers to communicate? Like a massive '3D pipe' deep down to bounce their sound off. Can travel for thousands of miles.

So a few hundred ship loads of corexit, pumped down to form a blanket, with bacteria that eats oil, then burps out methane, which at that depth, becomes methylhydrate, clumps together, and forms a solid blanket over the oil.

This eventually gets covered by silt and sand, and the dead animals.

The process continues from below, creating a thick frozen layer of methylhydrates and silt, your dirty blizzard, probably deliberate, to add a silt layer.

The oil is still there, and probably still leaking, and possibly equalising by now.

Punch a straw through the layer and you have access to easy oil. Hence all the recent bottom pumping rigs, over top floating rigs.

Remember BPGuy's vids showing the floor moving? It wasnt so much AUgie IMHO, it was a layer of methylhydrates and sand and silt laying on top of an oil lake, which, whilst the layer was 'young' and not so thick, able to ripple, and expand, and move as the oil spewed out below it.

Hence all the chatter about sea floor movement/raising.
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Quickly add, that by the time we started seeing vision of what was down there, the actual event and process had probably been going on for up to a year before they lost control of one part of it.

This story, and this thread is only a small part of the actual timeline.

I'll say it again - in order to have the word BEZERK, which is made up of complex scientific words/terms, you have to have had a group of scientists agreeing on it. Now THAT itself takes time.

Once agreed upon, a set of parameters, governing what BEZERK actually is defined by, and measured by, has to be in place, which involves equipment.

In order to monitor and detect these particular parameters, you need to put equipment and people in place.

None of this could have happened over night, or a month prior, even a year prior.

I'm betting more like decades prior, after the Russian deep drilling accident, when they also lost control, and used an omega option to quash the wells.

This little story is only a small chapter in a much larger one, and much later in the book..
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K, one of those links, shows some work done by BK Lim, who has written some brilliant articles and blogs on 'this' subject. BK goes on to link economic and political events in a timeline way beyond dwh. Worth reading his stuff if you already havent.

BK Lim is definately a bezerker!
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Completely lost my link to an article,

About a chemical that can cause freezing and how it is "pumped" into place

Could only think of A Whale and its cargo, maybe a freezing agent trying to get the methane to stop melting. Recall the zig-zag line shown for A Whale.
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There was a cargo container on the helipad according to reports coming from those in, or around the explosion.

Reportedly brought in by the same heli that brought Dick Cheney to visit DWH just prior to the explosion.

These reports were in the early part of the thread. Don't know if they still exist. Some people were making copies.
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Interesting idea. Remember that at depth, the methane instantly freezes as soon as its away from the heat, which in the vids, was only a few feet away.

If the bacteria are belching out this methane, then the small clumps of methylhydrates are in the water only a few feet above the oil layer, starting to clump together.

Think of a stack of pan cakes or a layer cake. The top one might be cold, but the ones beneath are still warm.

These bacteria keep on eating, and keep on belching, creating more thickness. They will NEVER eat all the oil as BP would have us believe, just cover it up with methyl hydrates and silt.

But adding a substance that helps keep things cooler again is really interesting, and can also be applied to 'deep freeze'.
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Could anyone of a bezerk nature have a look at this thread please? Its about no climate radar being available near the sink hole and greater area.

I had a little flutter on why, but would love to see/hear any other ideas on why they might be turning off local radar to cover something up that they are doing.

Thread: Louisiana Radar DOOM!!!!!!!
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Super thread...
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Hi Krisperer. I remember T's posts on the helipad. The part I had issue with was that the helipad is part of the rig, which is also steel, so a space targetting system would not distinguish either, if based purely on metal composition.

J Lear also believes in the space platform, and that it was used in the 911 attacks, and is implied by Dr Judy Wood also.

I'm gonna go with my gut though, and more conventional weapons like the suggested thermite/ate container on the pad, ignited from within, or below.

The renewed interest for me isnt in the rig itself, more in the notion that it could be used in a reversed format.
It could be used to pump down the nasty stuff, deep into the mantle, to illicite a response.

I am relooking at Awhale, and where it was, what it's journey was, as corexit, is produced en-mass in other countries with less stringent environmental laws.

I always wondered how they got so much of it down to the sea floor, and it was staring me in the face the whole time.

The 'layers' is the key to it. Natural layers of brine, fresh, colder, hotter etc water that acts as a barrier to the next layer, able to support key elements, tuned to that layer, to stay put, and habbitate that layer.

Remember the post on the (real) whales using the layers to communicate? Like a massive '3D pipe' deep down to bounce their sound off. Can travel for thousands of miles.

So a few hundred ship loads of corexit, pumped down to form a blanket, with bacteria that eats oil, then burps out methane, which at that depth, becomes methylhydrate, clumps together, and forms a solid blanket over the oil.

This eventually gets covered by silt and sand, and the dead animals.

The process continues from below, creating a thick frozen layer of methylhydrates and silt, your dirty blizzard, probably deliberate, to add a silt layer.

The oil is still there, and probably still leaking, and possibly equalising by now.

Punch a straw through the layer and you have access to easy oil. Hence all the recent bottom pumping rigs, over top floating rigs.

Remember BPGuy's vids showing the floor moving? It wasnt so much AUgie IMHO, it was a layer of methylhydrates and sand and silt laying on top of an oil lake, which, whilst the layer was 'young' and not so thick, able to ripple, and expand, and move as the oil spewed out below it.

Hence all the chatter about sea floor movement/raising.

 Quoting: BadHairDay


You are soooo brilliant !!!! banana2

I havent made my mind up on the helipad,
to me it does seems that a contained was ignited and melted a bit through the surface [the edges show that as evidence, that something on top almost burned through the surface, the edges are downwards.] and vaporised coz the structure below the helipad was still intact.
The container could have been acted like a beacon !!! What was IN that container?
Was it corexit? Was it intelligent oil pumped up from the depth? Was it liquid with what they thought could contain AUgie? Were there weapons inside? ...
But my guts tell me that the container was the beacon to lock on.
The helipad was just a part in this whole event, that was also layered in several stages ... It wasnt the helipad-incident that made the rig sink.


With the rest of your post I TOTALLY AGREE !!!
Fantastic insights !!!
Brilliant logic :D


Remember the printscreens I took from the "BP live-feed" ?
They showed green liquid leaking out of the broken raiser-pipe and from the mechanism with a pipe coming down from it to [in our comprehension back then] pump down the mud and concrete to cap the well ...

see ENTERPRISE 1 screen in the upper right :
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]

The 5 lower images showing the green "fog" above the seafloor, and on live-feed it slightly MOVED like you said, we all saw that :
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]

Many with the green "fog"
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]

Green "fog" leaking from equipment and hose :
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]

Green fluid leaking from broken raiser-pipe:
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]
[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]

I also not think it was not AUgie but the blanketed chemicals and methyl-hydrates that we saw moving ;)



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Quickly add, that by the time we started seeing vision of what was down there, the actual event and process had probably been going on for up to a year before they lost control of one part of it.

This story, and this thread is only a small part of the actual timeline.

I'll say it again - in order to have the word BEZERK, which is made up of complex scientific words/terms, you have to have had a group of scientists agreeing on it. Now THAT itself takes time.

Once agreed upon, a set of parameters, governing what BEZERK actually is defined by, and measured by, has to be in place, which involves equipment.

In order to monitor and detect these particular parameters, you need to put equipment and people in place.

None of this could have happened over night, or a month prior, even a year prior.

I'm betting more like decades prior, after the Russian deep drilling accident, when they also lost control, and used an omega option to quash the wells.

This little story is only a small chapter in a much larger one, and much later in the book..
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Totally agree !!!
5a


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There was a cargo container on the helipad according to reports coming from those in, or around the explosion.

Reportedly brought in by the same heli that brought Dick Cheney to visit DWH just prior to the explosion.

These reports were in the early part of the thread. Don't know if they still exist. Some people were making copies.
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tnx thats a great confirmation to my post above :D
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Some of you guys may have noticed a few threads of late about slain politicians. Not necessarily federal level, but curiously, many from Mississippi.

Thread: Politician found with gunshot wound to head — — Was directing BP oil spill fine money — 5th Mississippi lawmaker since NOVEMBER DEAD

Maybe there's something happening that these poor folks had to be silenced on?
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THANK YOU BP !





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