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Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

 
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This article was copied nearly entirely on the "Me tell u" thread, and is specifically mentions this BEZERK thread as conduits for providing information obtained from, let's say, "other sources". I found it fascinating.

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Hi Tutes.

Hey, I was thinking about your question about my comment on oil being negative.

It depends on how you define negative. I'm not likening oil to blood, but deoxygenated blood could be considered the negative, ready to be recharged positive.

I think we put too much 'negativity' (LOL) on the word negative! The universe needs it to function.

I guess that's what I be meanin. (for the time being... hehe)

hugs
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Kolohe, Darl,

It depends - heh heh - that's how I respond to all questions, because well, it depends.

The 3D universe needs the energetic negative to function...3D polarity facilitates motion at the most basic level. The energetic negative is also referred to as the receptive. Quite a leap from the usage of the word in regular conversation, which typically describes something as bad, evil, disruptive, grumpy, depressed - like that.

So, Sugarlump, now that we (maybe) have that definitive thingybingy sorted, I'm totes confused with your oil/blood non comparison. I'm treading muddy waters here. Didn't you apply a negative characteristic to oil earlier? Did you mean that in the conversational or energetic sense? If the energetic sense, what would be it's positive? Remember - water is receptive.

:ttb2:
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Hey that reminds me.... what ever happened to Mud? Is he still at his own website, eh Toots?

And you got mail, ok?


Ohmygod there I go...mybad... not focused on bezerkin.

Never mind.
shift
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Hi Tutes.

Hey, I was thinking about your question about my comment on oil being negative.

It depends on how you define negative. I'm not likening oil to blood, but deoxygenated blood could be considered the negative, ready to be recharged positive.

I think we put too much 'negativity' (LOL) on the word negative! The universe needs it to function.

I guess that's what I be meanin. (for the time being... hehe)

hugs
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Kolohe, Darl,

It depends - heh heh - that's how I respond to all questions, because well, it depends.

The 3D universe needs the energetic negative to function...3D polarity facilitates motion at the most basic level. The energetic negative is also referred to as the receptive. Quite a leap from the usage of the word in regular conversation, which typically describes something as bad, evil, disruptive, grumpy, depressed - like that.

So, Sugarlump, now that we (maybe) have that definitive thingybingy sorted, I'm totes confused with your oil/blood non comparison. I'm treading muddy waters here. Didn't you apply a negative characteristic to oil earlier? Did you mean that in the conversational or energetic sense? If the energetic sense, what would be it's positive? Remember - water is receptive.

:ttb2:
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what is that?
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THE ANTIDOTE?

Black mica (Biotite) for water purification

« on: September 15, 2011, 01:51:04 PM »

A mineral solution containing black mica has been shown to not only be the fastest way to purify water, but is also one of the best ways to remineralize and detoxify the body.

In the 1960s, Dr. Asao Shimanishi, a noted scientist and doctor from Japan, discovered after decades of research, that the rock that contained the most abundant minerals is black mica. Black mica (also known as biotite) is found in a wide variety of igneous and metamorphic rocks.

He has demonstrated how he can easily take whole ponds or lakes that are filthy, murky and contaminated [with the black mica extract] — and within one hour, transform the water, making it pristine, crystal clear and potable. And the water would thereafter stay fresh and clean permanently because the contaminants never re-dissolve in water once the water is treated.

Dr. Shimanishi also discovered that the minerals he extracted from black mica rocks from north of Tokyo had a tremendous healing and nourishing power. He invented a patented way to extract minerals from black mica and maintain them in an ionized form. As a result, people who ate vegetables fertilized with the ionized water became healthier and rejuvenated. This rejuvenative effect may well stem from the fact that the human body consists of the same foundational building blocks as black mica.


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Poor BP :) They're asking Cameron and the UK to intervene to stop the 'outrageous' claims re. GOM disaster.


[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

how much would really compensate for the amount of damage that has been done?

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THE ANTIDOTE?

Black mica (Biotite) for water purification

« on: September 15, 2011, 01:51:04 PM »

A mineral solution containing black mica has been shown to not only be the fastest way to purify water, but is also one of the best ways to remineralize and detoxify the body.

In the 1960s, Dr. Asao Shimanishi, a noted scientist and doctor from Japan, discovered after decades of research, that the rock that contained the most abundant minerals is black mica. Black mica (also known as biotite) is found in a wide variety of igneous and metamorphic rocks.

He has demonstrated how he can easily take whole ponds or lakes that are filthy, murky and contaminated [with the black mica extract] — and within one hour, transform the water, making it pristine, crystal clear and potable. And the water would thereafter stay fresh and clean permanently because the contaminants never re-dissolve in water once the water is treated.

Dr. Shimanishi also discovered that the minerals he extracted from black mica rocks from north of Tokyo had a tremendous healing and nourishing power. He invented a patented way to extract minerals from black mica and maintain them in an ionized form. As a result, people who ate vegetables fertilized with the ionized water became healthier and rejuvenated. This rejuvenative effect may well stem from the fact that the human body consists of the same foundational building blocks as black mica.


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r u sure this guy is ligit?.....just asking.

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"Stop all the clocks, cut off the internet,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

Let jet airplanes circle at night overhead
Sky-writing over Cygnus: Kepler is dead.
Put crepe bows round the white necks of doves,
Let the traffic officers wear black cotton gloves.

Kepler was my North, my South, my East and West,
My working week, no weekend rest,
My noon, my midnight, my talks, my song;
I thought Kepler would last forever: I was wrong.

The stars are still wanted now; let’s honor every one,
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun,
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods;
For nothing will ever be this good."

[link to www.wired.com]

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OK ~ 5437, thanks! Looks sadly much as though you're right.

Haven't trawled through all the comments but this one, seems to get to the root of the problem:

Kilroy_was_here

November 1, 2011

Black mica is indeed known as biotite, but it is not a rock. It is a mineral, and there is no such thing as a “rock that contains the most minerals”, since rocks are defined even in 8th-grade earth science textbooks as aggregates of minerals.

So Dr. Shimanishi’s ability to extract minerals from “black mica rocks” is right on par with my ability to extract rocks from …rocks.

I am also curious as to how one might extract much magnesium sulfate from a mineral that contains plenty of magnesium but little sulfate (biotite: K(Mg,Fe)3AlSi3O10(OH)2, although it is possible for minor amounts of sulfate to occur in the hydroxyl site. Very, very minor amounts.)


Oh dear! So much for that paticular "antidote"!

Sorry folks.

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Hi Tutes.

Hey, I was thinking about your question about my comment on oil being negative.

It depends on how you define negative. I'm not likening oil to blood, but deoxygenated blood could be considered the negative, ready to be recharged positive.

I think we put too much 'negativity' (LOL) on the word negative! The universe needs it to function.

I guess that's what I be meanin. (for the time being... hehe)

hugs
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Kolohe, Darl,

It depends - heh heh - that's how I respond to all questions, because well, it depends.

The 3D universe needs the energetic negative to function...3D polarity facilitates motion at the most basic level. The energetic negative is also referred to as the receptive. Quite a leap from the usage of the word in regular conversation, which typically describes something as bad, evil, disruptive, grumpy, depressed - like that.

So, Sugarlump, now that we (maybe) have that definitive thingybingy sorted, I'm totes confused with your oil/blood non comparison. I'm treading muddy waters here. Didn't you apply a negative characteristic to oil earlier? Did you mean that in the conversational or energetic sense? If the energetic sense, what would be it's positive? Remember - water is receptive.

:ttb2:
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what is that?
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Tar Ball...

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white powder gold is the answer





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Hi Tutes.

Hey, I was thinking about your question about my comment on oil being negative.

It depends on how you define negative. I'm not likening oil to blood, but deoxygenated blood could be considered the negative, ready to be recharged positive.

I think we put too much 'negativity' (LOL) on the word negative! The universe needs it to function.

I guess that's what I be meanin. (for the time being... hehe)

hugs
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Kolohe, Darl,

It depends - heh heh - that's how I respond to all questions, because well, it depends.

The 3D universe needs the energetic negative to function...3D polarity facilitates motion at the most basic level. The energetic negative is also referred to as the receptive. Quite a leap from the usage of the word in regular conversation, which typically describes something as bad, evil, disruptive, grumpy, depressed - like that.

So, Sugarlump, now that we (maybe) have that definitive thingybingy sorted, I'm totes confused with your oil/blood non comparison. I'm treading muddy waters here. Didn't you apply a negative characteristic to oil earlier? Did you mean that in the conversational or energetic sense? If the energetic sense, what would be it's positive? Remember - water is receptive.

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what is that?
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Tar Ball...

rockon
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Oh...
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youve probably all seen this and not really bezerk (but sonic drilling is mentioned at one point)

but for those that havent hope you find this interesting

Thread: The Government's Top Secret Pursuit of Mystical Relics, Ancient Astronauts, and Lost Civilizations (Page 2)

i do
"People were allways getting ready for tomorrow.I didnt believe in that. Tomorrow wasnt getting ready for them. It didnt even know they were there." Cormac Mccarthy
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Fri$T PºST @GLP:
handle carry over from LATOC.
*doomers.biz/forum2/index.php/topic,68178.0.html***
*.doomers.biz/forum2/index.php/topic,69744.0.html!!!***
...way of MF.

HERE PAGE !ne.

ILLUM thread GRRRREAT til
Christos Interruptus.

UVB also über~synergistic.

Since TOPIC is back to GOM
(specifics GEOLOGY.)
2nd link...
SALT.
worth your weight....
TECTonikzz.
VOLCANO. YES VOLCANO. DELTA TERRAFORMING priori.
Volcano, SYNOVIAL FLUID. increase crustal/salt/ACVTY ALL OF IT.
YOU are EARTH, UNIVERSE, vv. superIRR(ele)(ver)ent.
noetheless. SYNOVIAL FLUID = LUBRICANT.
idol1





AND
Again and AGAIN, not only SYNTHIA or LIFEQUAKERS inc
(rken r u trying to say THEM want SAV US?) bsflag

NoBody liKes the SPANISH INQUISTION,
I mean,
THE
INITIAL ASSUMPTION:
" [link to www.aapg.org]
THEY WERE ALL FRACKING THERE A WEEK BEFORE SOMEONE PUT KOOL_AID IN THE PUNCH."
along the industry lineZ. GravMag FRACK 101. USe Waters Capabilities. –negLIEgencia... GRø$z –N£℥ℒɫGENZZZ.

FRACKED IS RIGHT.
schtt- TåK- THWOloo is close albeit over imaginative,
I AM P®º\/1dence.

2sense for now.
Welcome.
black_hear
bonghit
damned damned agent
bump altcdnflag
:theonlyflowerZicouldfind:

yoda






rant




DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE! hiding



"GET IT BEFORE IT'S Skkk. RRubB.deded."


JustBeCool.BetterOff.<3AF
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In a bizare twist, all my digging around on tunnels led me back to this post, or more accurately the LATOC site, which is no more, and this poster, who TRIED to post info.

Since re-reading it, and jumping down some more rabit holes, I am not entirely comfortable with the info I am finding.

JFTR - I'm not going to open up about it at all. Do it for yourself.

Assumption mentioned back in 2010? FFS!

------------------------

What I will mention is that stopping the Gulf loop is a deliberate act. It esentially stops all the deep water currents that have prevented/stopped deep water and torrid water oil drilling.

But if you stop the conveyers, you get insane weather, and mass die-offs of eco systems right up to our level.

So you have to create new conveyers, and loop currents.

To do this, you can create a cascade collapse, below ground, (think grand canyon scale x 100) that will eventually create a new water way, bypassing energy rich areas, keeping the deep water currents stable.

Eventually the system equilises, and weather manipulation is no longer required to keep things in order.

-------------------------

Most of the links have gone from above, but you can still find the info here and there on other sites un-namable here.

You will also find a very interesting author.
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youve probably all seen this and not really bezerk (but sonic drilling is mentioned at one point)

but for those that havent hope you find this interesting

Thread: The Government's Top Secret Pursuit of Mystical Relics, Ancient Astronauts, and Lost Civilizations (Page 2)

i do
 Quoting: option8


You mean the post of Felloweartling?


Not sure how creditable they are,
but I recall reading about these
interesting titbits...

Lobsang Rampa mentions caves he
went into whose walls were like
smooth marble where the rock had
been 'melted', without heat, by
some sort of sound generating
device
... perhaps ELF? Would make
those massive tunneling machines
redundant pretty quick.


In a book Supernature there's an
account of a giant pea whistle
about a meter in diameter, driven
by a compressor, that generated
about 7Hz. The operator who stood
beside it ended up with his bones
and organs basically dissolving,
just his skin kept him together.

Acoustics, especially what you
can't hear, is fascinating!
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:)
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Fri$T PºST @GLP:
handle carry over from LATOC.
*doomers.biz/forum2/index.php/topic,68178.0.html***
*.doomers.biz/forum2/index.php/topic,69744.0.html!!!***
...way of MF.

HERE PAGE !ne.

ILLUM thread GRRRREAT til
Christos Interruptus.

UVB also über~synergistic.

Since TOPIC is back to GOM
(specifics GEOLOGY.)
2nd link...
SALT.
worth your weight....
TECTonikzz.
VOLCANO. YES VOLCANO. DELTA TERRAFORMING priori.
Volcano, SYNOVIAL FLUID. increase crustal/salt/ACVTY ALL OF IT.
YOU are EARTH, UNIVERSE, vv. superIRR(ele)(ver)ent.
noetheless. SYNOVIAL FLUID = LUBRICANT.
idol1





AND
Again and AGAIN, not only SYNTHIA or LIFEQUAKERS inc
(rken r u trying to say THEM want SAV US?) bsflag

NoBody liKes the SPANISH INQUISTION,
I mean,
THE
INITIAL ASSUMPTION:
" [link to www.aapg.org]
THEY WERE ALL FRACKING THERE A WEEK BEFORE SOMEONE PUT KOOL_AID IN THE PUNCH."
along the industry lineZ. GravMag FRACK 101. USe Waters Capabilities. –negLIEgencia... GRø$z –N£&#8485;&#8466;&#619;GENZZZ.

FRACKED IS RIGHT.
schtt- TåK- THWOloo is close albeit over imaginative,
I AM P®º\/1dence.

2sense for now.
Welcome.
black_hear
bonghit
damned damned agent
bump altcdnflag
:theonlyflowerZicouldfind:

yoda






rant




DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE! hiding



"GET IT BEFORE IT'S Skkk. RRubB.deded."


JustBeCool.BetterOff.<3AF
 Quoting: arbrefeu


In a bizare twist, all my digging around on tunnels led me back to this post, or more accurately the LATOC site, which is no more, and this poster, who TRIED to post info.

Since re-reading it, and jumping down some more rabit holes, I am not entirely comfortable with the info I am finding.

JFTR - I'm not going to open up about it at all. Do it for yourself.

Assumption mentioned back in 2010? FFS!

------------------------

What I will mention is that stopping the Gulf loop is a deliberate act. It esentially stops all the deep water currents that have prevented/stopped deep water and torrid water oil drilling.

But if you stop the conveyers, you get insane weather, and mass die-offs of eco systems right up to our level.

So you have to create new conveyers, and loop currents.

To do this, you can create a cascade collapse, below ground, (think grand canyon scale x 100) that will eventually create a new water way, bypassing energy rich areas, keeping the deep water currents stable.

Eventually the system equilises, and weather manipulation is no longer required to keep things in order.

-------------------------

Most of the links have gone from above, but you can still find the info here and there on other sites un-namable here.

You will also find a very interesting author.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Very interesting !!!!
Tnx BHD hf

hide ... "create a cascade collapse, below ground, (think grand canyon scale x 100) that will eventually create a new water way" ...

xxxmzk
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You seem to have "drilled" into an original encoded "something" which in turn, was very cryptic, ~ BHD?

If so, this makes it "symbolic" i.e, there are many interpretations and multiple meanings, depending on where we are coming from and what we are looking for?

Broadly speaking, seems from what you say ~ it's a case of Man v. Nature in the long run, allowing for an intergalactic, combined development of our conscious awareness leading eventually to higher dimensions?

Maybe a good starting point in any grand unified theory (GUT) of this, could be the several forms and solids referred to by the Greek philosopher: PLATO.

These provide a clue to the perfect, preconceptual Nature of the Universe and Cosmos.

PLATO describes the ever changing shapes of ~ Earth, Air, Fire and Water.

Figures contructed by geometry are images of Unity, the square is Harmony, the Triange is stability ...

Since everything is Interconnected and based on vibrations (its all in the vibes as you have said, repeatedly) ~ looking a little further beyond our Earth's dynamic yet constant syndrome, what Force we might ask ourselves is available, to bring about an overall change to the (logical) constants already involved, as some guiding influence from outside this cosmic system?

A recent NASA video showed the precise correspondence between the rays emitted from Black holes and our Heartbeats, which of course regulates the human system by interactions of the blood ("water") with our DNA system, bonded by Hydrogen ("Air").

Since heartbeats are connected to (nucleic) Energy in the human system, might not a change in Energy levels (the Schumann resonance) alter our consciousness and awareness, irrespective of human interference in the system on a less than grand scale? Such as may have already been the case in the event of an original, ~ genetic interference to our DNA?

Has not such a change in Energy already been predicted?

Might this be encoded somewhere ~ Is It meaningful?

integRatoR
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You seem to have "drilled" into an original encoded "something" which in turn, was very cryptic, ~ BHD?

If so, this makes it "symbolic" i.e, there are many interpretations and multiple meanings, depending on where we are coming from and what we are looking for?

Broadly speaking, seems from what you say ~ it's a case of Man v. Nature in the long run, allowing for an intergalactic, combined development of our conscious awareness leading eventually to higher dimensions?

Maybe a good starting point in any grand unified theory (GUT) of this, could be the several forms and solids referred to by the Greek philosopher: PLATO.

These provide a clue to the perfect, preconceptual Nature of the Universe and Cosmos.

PLATO describes the ever changing shapes of ~ Earth, Air, Fire and Water.

Figures contructed by geometry are images of Unity, the square is Harmony, the Triange is stability ...

Since everything is Interconnected and based on vibrations (its all in the vibes as you have said, repeatedly) ~ looking a little further beyond our Earth's dynamic yet constant syndrome, what Force we might ask ourselves is available, to bring about an overall change to the (logical) constants already involved, as some guiding influence from outside this cosmic system?

A recent NASA video showed the precise correspondence between the rays emitted from Black holes and our Heartbeats, which of course regulates the human system by interactions of the blood ("water") with our DNA system, bonded by Hydrogen ("Air").



Since heartbeats are connected to (nucleic) Energy in the human system, might not a change in Energy levels (the Schumann resonance) alter our consciousness and awareness, irrespective of human interference in the system on a less than grand scale? Such as may have already been the case in the event of an original, ~ genetic interference to our DNA?

Has not such a change in Energy already been predicted?

Might this be encoded somewhere ~ Is It meaningful?

integRatoR
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Look at the Origine of Plato's ideas, look further back ...lol...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anaximander was the "first of the known Greeks to publish a written document on nature." Therefore his texts would be amongst the earliest written in prose, at least in the Western world. By the time of Plato, his philosophy was almost forgotten, and Aristotle, his successor Theophrastus and a few doxographers provide us with the little information that remains. However, we know from Aristotle that Thales, also from Miletus, precedes Anaximander. It is debatable whether Thales actually was the teacher of Anaximander, but there is no doubt that Anaximander was influenced by Thales' theory that everything is derived from water.
...
Anaximander's theories were influenced by the Greek mythical tradition, and by some ideas of Thales – the father of philosophy – as well as by observations made by older civilizations in the East (especially by the Babylonian astrologists).
In his desire to find some universal principle, he assumed like traditional religion the existence of a cosmic order ...
In the old cosmogonies – Hesiod (8th – 7th century BC) and Pherecydes (6th century BC) – Zeus establishes his order in the world by destroying the powers which were threatening this harmony, (the Titans). Anaximander claimed that the cosmic order is not monarchic but geometric ...
The same rational way of thought led him to introduce the abstract apeiron (indefinite, infinite, boundless, unlimited[13]) as an origin of the universe, ... It also takes notice of the mutual changes between the four elements. Origin, then, must be something else unlimited in its source, that could create without experiencing decay, so that genesis would never stop.
He was the first philosopher to employ, in a philosophical context, the term arch&#7871; , which until then had meant beginning or origin. For him, it became no longer a mere point in time, but a source that could perpetually give birth to whatever will be.

Aristotle writes (Metaphysics, I III 3–4) that the Pre-Socratics were searching for the element that constitutes all things. While each pre-Socratic philosopher gave a different answer as to the identity of this element (water for Thales and air for Anaximenes), Anaximander understood the beginning or first principle to be an endless, unlimited primordial mass (apeiron), subject to neither old age nor decay, that perpetually yielded fresh materials from which everything we perceive is derived.

According to him, [color]the Universe originates in the separation of opposites in the primordial matter. It embraces the opposites of hot and cold, wet and dry, and directs the movement of things; [color]an entire host of shapes and differences then grow that are found in "all the worlds" (for he believed there were many).

Anaximander already speculated on the plurality of worlds, ... supposed that worlds appeared and disappeared for a while, and that some were born when others perished. They claimed that this movement was eternal, "for without movement, there can be no generation, no destruction"
This theory places Anaximander close to the Atomists and the Epicureans who, more than a century later, also claimed that an infinity of worlds appeared and disappeared. In the timeline of the Greek history of thought, some thinkers conceptualized a single world (Plato, Aristotle, Anaxagoras and Archelaus), while others instead speculated on the existence of a series of worlds, continuous or non-continuous (Anaximenes, Heraclitus, Empedocles and Diogenes).

He saw the sea as a remnant of the mass of humidity that once surrounded Earth. A part of that mass evaporated under the sun's action, thus causing the winds and even the rotation of the celestial bodies, which he believed were attracted to places where water is more abundant.[42] He explained rain as a product of the humidity pumped up from Earth by the sun ... and water only remained in the deepest regions, ...
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I dont know how about you guys, but I had to think of AUgie and the "liquid basic substance" [as talked about by BHD and me] in Lake Vostok and elsewhere ...

It might not be a coïncedence that my daughters name was derived from Anaximander ---> Anaxi.
I once longggg ago read the name Anaximander in the Kaballah [book] and knew that my firstborn would have the name Anaxi ... :)


I here provide the link to the NASA-article you mentioned:


NASA discovers black hole with 'heartbeat'
[link to zeenews.india.com]

December 18, 2011

Soon after finding the largest black hole last week, NASA has now found another black hole, but it is the tiniest one and with a heart beat.
A NASA satellite has detected what astronomers said was a "heartbeat" of what could be the smallest known black hole.

Using the NASA's Rossi X-Ray Timing Explorer (RXTE), which detects X-rays coming from cosmic sources, a team of astronomers identified a specific X-ray pattern, nicknamed a "heartbeat", that indicates that a black hole is present in a binary system with the ordinary star.

The "heartbeat" pattern is caused by the regular cycles of matter accumulated into the black hole from its neighbouring star.
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It states that bigger black holes have slower patterns of accumulating-cycles then smaller ones who's pattern is faster,
just like the heartbeat of a mouse is faster then that of an elephant.

I could not see the link between what you said : "the precise correspondence between the rays emitted from Black holes and our Heartbeats" ...



Yes if the Schumann-resonance alters it also alters how we perceive the things around us. And yes will also interfere with all matter and genetics, alter it ...


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Krispers yes many thanks ~ that certainly gets us right back to some origins, even pre-PLATO.

And The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy has this to say about him:

Aniximander C 610 - 56 BCE

Anaximander was the author of the first surviving lines of Western philosophy. He speculated and argued about “the Boundless” as the origin of all that is. He also worked on the fields of what we now call geography and biology. Moreover, Anaximander was the first speculative astronomer. He originated the world-picture of the open universe, which replaced the closed universe of the celestial vault.

<Snip>

It is no use trying to unify the information on Anaximander into one all-compassing and consistent whole. His work will always remain truncated, like the mutilated and decapitated statue that has been found at the market-place of Miletus and that bears his name.

Nevertheless, by what we know of him, we may say that he was one of the greatest minds that ever lived. By speculating and arguing about the “Boundless” he was the first metaphysician
.

By drawing a map of the world he was the first geographer.

But above all, by boldly speculating about the universe he broke with the ancient image of the celestial vault and became the discoverer of the Western world-picture.


The NASA Heartbeat simulation put out by Goddard showed how the periodic pulses emanating from a black hole, corresponded to our heartbeats on a strictly regular basis (mathematically).

Wonder how it came about you chose to connect the eminent name of this great Greek pioneer with that of your offspring?

Your valuable confirmation of the significance of the likely changes in the Schumann resonance scale suggests that perhaps, we should review it once more? LOL.

Integrator ~ only the self is real.
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Krispers yes many thanks ~ that certainly gets us right back to some origins, even pre-PLATO.

And The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy has this to say about him:

Aniximander C 610 - 56 BCE

Anaximander was the author of the first surviving lines of Western philosophy. He speculated and argued about “the Boundless” as the origin of all that is. He also worked on the fields of what we now call geography and biology. Moreover, Anaximander was the first speculative astronomer. He originated the world-picture of the open universe, which replaced the closed universe of the celestial vault.

<Snip>

It is no use trying to unify the information on Anaximander into one all-compassing and consistent whole. His work will always remain truncated, like the mutilated and decapitated statue that has been found at the market-place of Miletus and that bears his name.

Nevertheless, by what we know of him, we may say that he was one of the greatest minds that ever lived. By speculating and arguing about the “Boundless” he was the first metaphysician
.

By drawing a map of the world he was the first geographer.

But above all, by boldly speculating about the universe he broke with the ancient image of the celestial vault and became the discoverer of the Western world-picture.


The NASA Heartbeat simulation put out by Goddard showed how the periodic pulses emanating from a black hole, corresponded to our heartbeats on a strictly regular basis (mathematically).

Wonder how it came about you chose to connect the eminent name of this great Greek pioneer with that of your offspring?

Your valuable confirmation of the significance of the likely changes in the Schumann resonance scale suggests that perhaps, we should review it once more? LOL.

Integrator ~ only the self is real.
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Maybe it would be appreciated also by others but certainly by me if you posted LINKS to articles and vids you refer to.
In that way we dont have to look for ourselves and go directly to what you desire to be looked at ...

So please post the vid you talk about :)




When I saw that name in that book it made my bells go off, it was an act of accordance that my next off-spring would carry this name.
As with many things intuitively felt, it was only when my daughter was 2 years old that I read into what Anaximander was about, and while working here on BEZERK it struck me more then once with a smile that it is all about harmony in the Universe, and that her name fits with me and her like nothing else ... It had to be that way.

((In the same way I learned about the meaning of the name Tiamath-Amaru and my Dragons name only after I heared them, and they match like perfect!))


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bump merely for the fact OP has somehow managed to keep this nonsense going for 1473 pages...BRAVO i commend u sir....



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OP jumped ship long ago, and started his own web site.

If you're going to commend anyone, commend those who stayed, and continued the discussion, and weathered the storms.

JFTR - 'the' OP cannot discuss this subject anymore.
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Krisperer and Integron... what a fascinating series of posts.

I had not ever heard of Anaximander. Tick, tick, tick - every box!!!!

That they were discusing stuff like this, all that time ago is amazing, dont you think?

One 'element' not linked with the Human condition is aether in their discussions. Well, maybe not overtly, and maybe under a different title.

I think we are (5) elements, and it is what makes us unique.

The majik inside us to create, visualise, guide time.

Also linked to our world, and these 'heart beats' you both mention.

[Speaking of ironies... I am talking directly with a descendent of Mr Schumann, who is also a scientist.]

Tutu has asked me a few times about why I pin a negative on the oil, and it is really hard for me to put it into words.

But, we know it brings out the worst in Mankind, we know it destroys habbitats, when out of the ground, we know it pollutes the air, we know it traps Man, in that everything is built up around it's continuing use (economies, there fore control systems) and we know it is being used in absolutely everything we come in contact with.

So we are being immersed in it, whether we like it or not.

That tells me, we have no choice, and as such, we are being immersed for a reason.

If my G.U.T. tells me it is negative, then the reason is negative.

The reason, for me, is to slow the heart beat that also surrounds us, or at the very least, create some kind of arithmea, to obfuscate our subconscious rythms.

If our universe is indeed sending out new sheet music, and Saturn's rings are bouncing it around our system, and our own world is trying to make us hear it, but our ears, and our 'hearts' have these oil soaked muffs on them, blocking the attempts....

... what will the end result be?


Totally disconnected souls? (7) billion slaves with no connection to a host world? Up for grabs? Send in the tube ships? Quota filled.

There will always be pockets of resistance, with no ear/heart 'protection'.

Has BHD gone nuts? No. But if they will go to the lengths they are going to, in order to saturate the planet to the degree they want to with oil products, then all this is totally plausible.

Terraforming the planet may not be for new arrivals. It might be a method of cutting the tie between planet and human entity/spirit. Imagine how frightening that would be, as the energy state would know that in physical form, the link will be broken in most cases, a dead end.

The scramble for Antarctica might be a last ditch effort to save? or last ditch effort to stop, any possibility of resistance.

I think I understand what BluET's mates are up to in that part of our planet. [which includes Maquarrie Island]




Integrator, notice how I used G.U.T. above? Your use of TEXT is quite telling. (Mum's the word...) hf
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To my anonymous (read - gutless, doesnt have the cahones to place a name next to a comment) 'friend' -

"Yes, I AM doing well".

I dont follow a script, I'm not a 'bot, or a follower.
I will say 'hello' to whome ever I damn well want to.

You are on a train (wreck) and at least on this 'bus' we/I have the ability to turn left or right,
and travel where we/I like, where as you have only one path, one script, to follow.
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Please recall that the guy jailed in Indianapolis for the gas explosion is reported to be an acoustics expert. Never could get confirmation that he is the same named person acknowledged as high-level acoustics contractor.


youve probably all seen this and not really bezerk (but sonic drilling is mentioned at one point)

but for those that havent hope you find this interesting

Thread: The Government's Top Secret Pursuit of Mystical Relics, Ancient Astronauts, and Lost Civilizations (Page 2)

i do
 Quoting: option8


You mean the post of Felloweartling?


Not sure how creditable they are,
but I recall reading about these
interesting titbits...

Lobsang Rampa mentions caves he
went into whose walls were like
smooth marble where the rock had
been 'melted', without heat, by
some sort of sound generating
device
... perhaps ELF? Would make
those massive tunneling machines
redundant pretty quick.


In a book Supernature there's an
account of a giant pea whistle
about a meter in diameter, driven
by a compressor, that generated
about 7Hz. The operator who stood
beside it ended up with his bones
and organs basically dissolving,
just his skin kept him together.

Acoustics, especially what you
can't hear, is fascinating!
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:)
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Speaking of "Assumption" here is another as it relates to Koch Brothers and oil:

"WINDSOR, Ontario — Assumption Park gives residents of this city lovely views of the Ambassador Bridge and the Detroit skyline. Lately they’ve been treated to another sight: a three-story pile of petroleum coke covering an entire city block on the other side of the Detroit River. "

[link to www.nytimes.com]



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In a bizare twist, all my digging around on tunnels led me back to this post, or more accurately the LATOC site, which is no more, and this poster, who TRIED to post info.

Since re-reading it, and jumping down some more rabit holes, I am not entirely comfortable with the info I am finding.

JFTR - I'm not going to open up about it at all. Do it for yourself.

Assumption mentioned back in 2010? FFS!

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What I will mention is that stopping the Gulf loop is a deliberate act. It esentially stops all the deep water currents that have prevented/stopped deep water and torrid water oil drilling.

But if you stop the conveyers, you get insane weather, and mass die-offs of eco systems right up to our level.

So you have to create new conveyers, and loop currents.

To do this, you can create a cascade collapse, below ground, (think grand canyon scale x 100) that will eventually create a new water way, bypassing energy rich areas, keeping the deep water currents stable.

Eventually the system equilises, and weather manipulation is no longer required to keep things in order.

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Most of the links have gone from above, but you can still find the info here and there on other sites un-namable here.

You will also find a very interesting author.
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Speaking of "Assumption" here is another as it relates to Koch Brothers and oil:

"WINDSOR, Ontario — Assumption Park gives residents of this city lovely views of the Ambassador Bridge and the Detroit skyline. Lately they’ve been treated to another sight: a three-story pile of petroleum coke covering an entire city block on the other side of the Detroit River. "

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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“It’s really the dirtiest residue from the dirtiest oil on earth,” he said.
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MMS is responsible for the offshore drilling leases in ALL Federal waters. Under that 2009 contract to SAIC to study the loop current, it seems knowledge is only good to 3000'. Beyond 3000' there are highly significant larger stresses put on drilling platforms, anchoring systems and risers. Below 10,000' the pipe must be flexible because of variations in the strength and direction of the currents and the pipes are quite likely to break. Because engineers topside cannot see or predict currents but they often feel them, they must shut down the rigs until conditions become safer. Technology yet has not reached the depths and associated currents to measure the whole risk. Currently, all conditions are measured by SAIC through satellite remote sensing but only to 3000'.
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Apologies for the wall....

2010

The Gulf Loop Current is a rapidly moving "river" of warm water that courses through the eastern Gulf of Mexico, creating currents and eddies that reach thousands of feet in depth.

The atmospheric impact of the Loop Current has been studied intensely because its heat energy can fuel killer hurricanes. SAIC has been given the job of probing its deeper secrets so that oil and gas activities in the deepest parts of the Gulf are environmentally compliant and safe.

Until about 10 years ago, most of the drilling in the Gulf of Mexico was in relatively shallow water on the continental shelf and its upper slope. Now, however, the oil industry has begun exploration and production in deeper water. That deeper water, particularly in the Gulf of Mexico, presents unique challenges. For SAIC's oceanographers, deep water in the Gulf is where the ocean gets interesting.

That's because the physics of the underwater currents and processes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico are not particularly well understood, even as the technology for "ultradeep-sea" drilling makes it possible to drill several miles below the seabed in water at depths of 10,000 feet. Because of the Gulf Loop Current and the complexity of its physics, the consequences for ultradeep-water drilling may be profound.

The Department of Interior's Minerals Management Service (MMS) recently awarded SAIC a five-year contract to study the Loop Current and associated processes.

The Loop Current itself is relatively constrained to the eastern part of the Gulf. However, large-scale eddies separate from it and drift westward toward the Mississippi Delta and the Mexican continental shelf. That's why, said Field Operations Manager Jim Singer, "MMS needs SAIC's team to determine why these eddies are formed and whether they can be predicted months and seasons ahead of time."


Spin Cycle
The Loop Current originates in the Equatorial Current between West Africa and the Americas. This westward flowing stream of warm water presses into the Gulf of Mexico from the Caribbean Sea through the Yucatan Channel, creating a loop that flows north into the Gulf and turns in a clockwise motion, then moves southward along the west coast of Florida, and finally streams eastward through the narrow passage between Key West and Cuba. Along the eastern shore of Florida it has the name Gulf Stream as it heads into the vast Atlantic.

Periodically, however, "the northern portion of the Loop Current separates," said Peter Hamilton, an SAIC senior scientist. Hamilton is a 30-year SAIC veteran who has a Ph.D. in physical oceanography and is considered one of the foremost experts in the field of Gulf oceanography and physics.

That separation from the larger current creates "a closed, clockwise-rotating eddy that initially retains many of the velocity and water characteristics of the Loop Current." Such "large-scale eddies" can reach nearly 200 miles in diameter. A second separation can occur before the first eddy has decayed. Hamilton said he's seen as many as three eddies at a time existing in the broad Gulf.

The Loop Current extends down to about 3,000 feet. Below this depth, there are deep energetic eddies and waves. According to Hamilton, "typical current speeds of these deep disturbances are one-third to half a knot, but speeds of greater than one and a half knots (about 2 miles per hour) have been measured on occasion." That is a significant amount of energy when you're talking about a water column thousands of feet in depth.

Indeed, said Hamilton, "speeds of these magnitudes spanning the lower 3,000 feet of the water column generate considerable stresses on drilling platforms, anchoring systems, and risers, particularly when coupled with high-speed, near-surface currents of the Loop Current."

Although the pipe from the well to the platform itself is rigid, a 10,000-foot section of pipe suspended below a platform becomes quite flexible, proportionately, a very thin strand that can be bent in any direction by the horizontal currents, even broken altogether if the current forces are strong and opposing at different depths in the water column.

Why MMS Wants to Know
MMS is responsible for, among other things, granting lease sales for offshore drilling on the sea floor throughout U.S. federal waters (offshore of the three-mile state jurisdiction). MMS needs to be able to gauge the risk of an oil spill on a particular tract of sea floor well in advance of any lease sales to the oil industry.

Engineers stationed on oil platforms can't see these subsurface currents although they can feel the forces of the currents as they put pressure on the rig. At times crews have to shut down operations if the pipe below them is pushed too much from a vertical orientation. For an operation that can cost hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars per day, downtime gets very expensive.

While oil companies use very sophisticated oceanographic technology to measure currents below and adjacent to their platforms, they have not undertaken a large-scale study of Gulf ocean physics that is necessary to advance knowledge and enable predictions of deep currents and processes.

In-Depth Study
The project team, consisting of scientists and technicians from SAIC in Raleigh, N.C., the University of Colorado, the University of Rhode Island, and Princeton University, will make field measurements, use satellite remote sensing of the sea surface to track the location of the Loop Current and eddies, and employ numerical modeling of the physics throughout the region and in the very deep waters.

During this spring, the SAIC field team assembled sets of current meters, which are thick-walled aluminum cylinders, each about 3 feet long and 8 inches in diameter. These are loaded with a sophisticated computer, clock, data storage capabilities, and enough long-life batteries to keep them operational during a long deployment.

The computer in each meter is connected to special sensors on the outside of the cylinder for measuring currents, temperature, and the salinity of the water passing by. These devices take samples every hour for a year during a single deployment in the cold, deep ocean. Each costs in the range of $15,000-$20,000.

Dozens of these current meters are now in the Gulf, attached to a cable that stands vertically in the water column above a large anchor. Special floatation devices are attached at intervals along the wire to keep the array taut and vertical. The top floatation device in each mooring is deep enough to avoid shipping traffic and fishermen.

75kHz Acoustic Doppler Current Profiler (ADCP)
The ADCP with Syntactic Buoy measures water speed and direction not just at the depth of mooring, but over vertical segments of the water column using sonar pings and the Doppler effect.

Aanderaa AA RCMsAanderaa AA RCMs
Aanderaa AA RCMs are recording current meters that measure current speed and direction where they are positioned with a small rotor and a large vane attached to an internal compass.

Glass SpheresGlass Spheres
Glass spheres, each about two feet in diameter, provide buoyancy all along the vertical mooring array to keep the array taut during its stay in the water.

Paired Acoustic ReleasesPaired Acoustic Releases
Paired acoustic releases positioned immediately above the anchor will release the array at the end of its underwater measurement period.

During the spring and early summer, SAIC placed 29 of these moorings at various locations "that were selected to optimize the likelihood of taking a coherent set of measurements in a region where an eddy separation might be expected to occur," Hamilton said, adding that the "sensors will be used to measure directly, or estimate with documented accuracy, vertical profiles of velocity, temperature and salinity." The moorings are intended to stay in place for 15 months.

At the end of that period, the field team, led by Singer, plans to visit each of the mooring sites, retrieve the equipment, download all the data, replace the batteries, and then put them all back in the water for another 15 months of measurements. Simultaneously during the measurement program, scientists at the University of Colorado will be watching Loop Current behavior using satellite surveillance. When the measurement program is complete, in fall of 2011, the major task of data processing and scientific analysis begins.

Two years later, all of the scientific findings are scheduled to be presented in a massive report written by the team of ocean physicists. This tome is not for the average reader. Rather, it will be slowly digested by Ph.D. oceanographers from MMS and panels of physicists retained by MMS to glean the key results from the report. The database that will result from the study is seen by the MMS as an unprecedented asset to all of the Gulf oceanographic community.

All of the 29 mooring locations have water depths to 10,000 feet. Just to build the large anchors, the team needed 270 railroad wheels or 93 tons. Reusing railroad wheels as anchor weights is the most cost-effective way to moor the vertical arrays.

Study Expected to Increase Safety, Improve Forecasts
According to MMS, the study will help understand how currents could interrupt oil production operations, and change or affect the movement of oil spills, including natural seeps from the ocean floor. Human activities in the Gulf and its coastal areas can also be made safer with an increased understanding of the Loop Current, MMS officials said in a press release.

In addition to collaboration with the University of Colorado, SAIC will establish subcontracts with ocean physicists from Princeton University who will conduct numerical modeling of the current, and with oceanographers from the University of Rhode Island who will participate in the current measurement program and data analyses. SAIC will also coordinate the study with a similar study, partially funded by MMS, by scientists from Centro de Investigación Cientifica y Educación Superior de Ensenada, Mexico, within that country's Exclusive Economic Zone, commonly known as the 200-mile limit.

SAIC will also get an assist in the study of the thermal structure of the Loop Current from the University of Miami and the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Lab in Miami, Fla. That organization hopes to use the data and their own measurements to forecast more accurately the intensification of hurricanes entering or lingering in the Gulf of Mexico. Several recent hurricanes, including Katrina, have gathered considerable strength as they passed over the warm surface water of the Loop Current or its eddies in the eastern Gulf. Understanding those dynamics could significantly improve modeling and prediction of hurricanes approaching the U.S. coastline.

A Satisfying Win for SAIC
Federal funding for ocean research has been cut back over the last 10 years, with organizations like the National Science Foundation, the Office of Naval Research and other agencies having significantly fewer research dollars to award as grants. For that reason, academic institutions that otherwise might have been the recipients of such research money — the Scripps Institute of Oceanography, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Texas A&M University and others — have begun to pursue the types of contracts that have typically been the livelihood of companies like SAIC.

The study is the most extensive oceanographic project being conducted today in U.S. waters for a non-Department of Defense agency, and winning the contract against such storied competition, say those involved, is especially satisfying for the study team.

Satellite images of sea surface height measurements.
Satellite Sea Surface Height Measurements
The overlay shows the array of SAIC mooring locations used for the deployed instrumentation.

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[link to www.saic.com]

About SAIC
Founded by J. Robert Beyster, Ph.D., and a small group of scientists in 1969, Science Applictions International Corporation (SAIC), a FORTUNE 500* company, and its subsidiaries now have approximately 45,000 employees worldwide.


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Non military?


Gulf Regional Airspace Strategic Planning
As lead contractor on the gulf regional airspace strategic initiative (GRASI), SAIC helped the U.S. Air Force cost-effectively accommodate mission growth in Northwest Florida, in close collaboration with defense, civil, and commercial interests.

Overview
The gulf coast regional airspace strategic initiative (GRASI) began in October 2008 in response to projected increased use of special use airspace in the Gulf region as a result of the 2005 base realignment and closure (BRAC) report moving additional military missions to the area. SAIC was tasked to help the U.S. Air Force create a growth plan for military and commercial interests in Northwest Florida.

"GRASI is seen as success and a model for future U.S. airspace/
congestion issues. By bringing stakeholders together early in the process as opposed to later, SAIC helped foster ownership, agreement on strategies, and support for initiatives."
- John Mathers, project manager

SAIC brought diverse military and civilian aviation stakeholders together with expert university modelers and professional facilitation to work out strategies and procedures to address anticipated growth and congestion in the airspace above Northwest Florida without impacted the economic vitality of the region. The working groups devised a number of strategies to alleviate congestion and improve safety in the gulf airspace. This group worked closely with the Virginia Tech modelers to conduct regional airspace modeling, Georgia Tech for airfield interaction modeling and University of West Florida for economic modeling of proposed strategies. Each of the meetings was professionally facilitated by the Florida State University Conflict Resolution Consortium.

The strategic plan included:
Determining diverse stakeholder requirements
Airspace modeling
Economic modeling
Analysis of alternatives
Stakeholder facilitation

By using computer modeling to analyze user provided future requirements, it was determined that the total requests for special use airspace could soon exceed the available capacity. The benefits of the effort is to provide a roadmap of actions to stakeholders to allow both civil and military aviation missions to successfully meet the future demands of each.

An executive steering committee reviewed and approved the GRASI recommendations and strategies in March 2011 and implementation is currently underway.
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- from me tell u. Thanks AC Canada.



attention BHD....may find this interesting...i did.



"Crystalline basement fracture waters from the Canadian, Fennoscandian and South African continental cratons have recently drawn scientific attention.....
provide the energy source for deep chemoautotrophic microbial ecosystems.

Fluids trapped as inclusions within minerals can be billions of years old and preserve a record of the fluid chemistry and environment at the time of mineralization.



Together, the different noble gases show that ancient pockets of water can survive the crustal fracturing process and remain in the crust for billions of years."

[link to easweb.eas.ualberta.ca]

[link to livasperiklis.com]


made me think back to this.....

"'we farm crystal oceon floor
we cruch crystal make likwid'"


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handle carry over from LATOC.
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*.doomers.biz/forum2/index.php/topic,69744.0.html!!!***
...way of MF.

HERE PAGE !ne.

ILLUM thread GRRRREAT til
Christos Interruptus.

UVB also über~synergistic.

Since TOPIC is back to GOM
(specifics GEOLOGY.)
2nd link...
SALT.
worth your weight....
TECTonikzz.
VOLCANO. YES VOLCANO. DELTA TERRAFORMING priori.
Volcano, SYNOVIAL FLUID. increase crustal/salt/ACVTY ALL OF IT.
YOU are EARTH, UNIVERSE, vv. superIRR(ele)(ver)ent.
noetheless. SYNOVIAL FLUID = LUBRICANT.
idol1





AND
Again and AGAIN, not only SYNTHIA or LIFEQUAKERS inc
(rken r u trying to say THEM want SAV US?) bsflag

NoBody liKes the SPANISH INQUISTION,
I mean,
THE
INITIAL ASSUMPTION:
" [link to www.aapg.org]
THEY WERE ALL FRACKING THERE A WEEK BEFORE SOMEONE PUT KOOL_AID IN THE PUNCH."
along the industry lineZ. GravMag FRACK 101. USe Waters Capabilities. –negLIEgencia... GRø$z –N£&#8485;&#8466;&#619;GENZZZ.

FRACKED IS RIGHT.
schtt- TåK- THWOloo is close albeit over imaginative,
I AM P®º\/1dence.

2sense for now.
Welcome.
black_hear
bonghit
damned damned agent
bump altcdnflag
:theonlyflowerZicouldfind:

yoda






rant




DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE! hiding



"GET IT BEFORE IT'S Skkk. RRubB.deded."


JustBeCool.BetterOff.<3AF
 Quoting: arbrefeu


Yeah...

twisting things (fate/reality..eyeballs)

in and out and all up in the deep space Quazar friends...
not that I could just boil all the waters off into space...

I like brighter flashes... louder - volcanic? yes!

just in time to market.





GLP