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Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/06/2010 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting that they would find the inner layer rotating slower... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185942Is that your site ? No, I don't have a site...I am learning on the fly, delving into the rabbit holes and posting the rabbit holes here that I find interesting. Basically, this thread is like a collection of bookmarks for me on theories of gravity and plasma. Everyone is free to join in and delve down rabbit holes with me. I love to learn and this is my newest fascination. Hopefully others will enjoy the journey as well. Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/06/2010 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.handpen.com] We have known since the 50s that gravity bends light by observing the apparent change of position of stars near the sun during an eclipse. The sun's gravity bent the light from the stars making them appear to have moved. Light and space/time are inseparable. If you bend one, you bend the other. If you can bend it you can compress it. Therefore, our scientists have known since the 50s that gravity can compress space. And unless those scientests were a lot dumber than I am, they also knew that effective, faster-than-light travel is possible if you can generate a strong gravity field. A hundred years ago nobody would have believed that we could create lighting. Today we can easily create lighting. If our government didn’t confiscate thousands of patents a year under the name of national security, we would already have the gravity machine in public domain.... ...The levitation force measurement between a permanent magnet and a single-grained YBCO sample by ZFC procedure at 77 K. A levitation force over 2,000 g-weight has been measured. _ The dots represent levitation force measurement data at different distance between magnet and superconductor. And a continuous line represents the fitting of the measured data, which shows that F(x) curve can be fitted by an exponential function. However, hundreds of people have seen it fly. And fly it can because it uses a gravity nutralization system that makes it weigh 11% of its original weight. The TR-3B has a circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter. The mercury based plasma is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin, and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, reducing the weight of the aircraft by 89%, and making it able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft. Like other high performance aircraft, the maneuvers are limited to the ability of the crew to withstand G forces. But, inside the TR-3B the G forces are also reduced by 89%. Thus the crew of the TR-3B can perform a 40G maneuver with the crew feeling 4.2 Gs. The TR-3Bs propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l20,000 feet - then who knows how fast it can go!..." Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
CelticLegends User ID: 1170009 United Kingdom 12/07/2010 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was not long ago that physics classified matter into only three states: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184745Dark matter, solid, liquid, gas, plasma. 5 states. That my count. So you know that dark matter doesn't "fit" in those other categories, do ya? It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 988822 United Kingdom 12/07/2010 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was not long ago that physics classified matter into only three states: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184745Dark matter, solid, liquid, gas, plasma. 5 states. That my count. There's no such thing as "dark matter". It was invented by theoretical mathematicians to patch up the almost collapsed "Standard Model". |
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Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS IS GOOD NEWS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090353Our scales will all say we have LOST WEIGHT! Yeah! LOL I wish it worked that "weigh". LOL Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1005671 United States 12/07/2010 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gravity doesn't pull. Misunderstood completely. Just because the apple falls, doesn't mean it's a pull. Man will continue to screw up until he learns it's a PUSH. Of cold hard space on the planet. Quoting: Nobody in ParticularEither could be true or false. We first need to identify and measure the specific forces of gravity and understand how it works, recreate it and control it in labs. Only then, when we understand it can we say where and how. But I do agree it could be an astral push instead of a pull......or both. |
Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a little "light" reading for those who may be interested. Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyes[link to www.i-b-r.org] 1. SCIENTIFIC IMBALANCES OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY 1 1.2 THE SCIENTIFIC IMBALANCE CAUSED BY NONLOCAL-INTEGRAL INTERACTIONS 4 1.3 THE SCIENTIFIC IMBALANCE CAUSED BY IRREVERSIBILITY 49 Found the second part of this paper that goes into more detail. [link to www.i-b-r.org] 2. ISODUAL THEORY OF POINT-LIKE ANTIPARTICLES 163 2.1 ELEMENTS OF ISODUAL MATHEMATICS 163 2.2 CLASSICAL ISODUAL THEORY OF POINT-LIKE ANTIPARTICLES 174 2.3 OPERATOR ISODUAL THEORY OF POINT-LIKE ANTIPARTICLES 191 2.4 THEORETICAL PREDICTIONS OF ANTIGRAVITY 210 2.5 EXPERIMENTAL VERIFICATION OF ANTIGRAVITY 224 2.5.1 Santilli’s Proposed Test of Antigravity for Positrons in Horizontal Flight 224 2.5.2 Santilli’s Proposed Tests of Antigravity for Isodual Light 229 2.5.3 Mills’ Studies of Santilli’s Proposed Tests of Antigravity 230 2.6 SPACETIME LOCOMOTIONS 235 2.6.1 Introduction 235 2.6.2 Causal Time Machine 236 2.6.3 Isogeometric Propulsion 238 As stressed in Section 1.4, this inconsistency is such that, either one assumes Einstein’s gravitation as correct, in which case quantum electrodynamics must be reformulated from its foundation to prevent a first-order source in vacuum, or one assumes quantum electrodynamics to be correct, in which case Einstein’s gravitation must be irreconcilably abandoned. The second catastrophic inconsistency of Einstein’s gravitation is that of Theorem 1.4.2 identifying the incompatibility of field equations (2.4.10) and the forgotten Freud identity of the Riemannian geometry,.... (following are equations that do not translate legibly when copied) ...All studies on the problem of “unification” of gravitation and electromagnetism prior to Ref. [48] known to this author7 treated the two fields as physically distinct, resulting in the well known historical failures to achieve a consistent unification dating back to Albert Einstein (see next chapter for a detailed study). An axiomatically consistent theory emerges if gravitation and electromagnetism are instead “identified”, as first done by Santilli [48] in 1974. Also, Prediction 2.4.2 implies a theory on the origin of the gravitational field, rather than a theory providing its “description”, as available in standard treatises such as [33]. This is due to the fact that in Prediction 2.4.2 all mass terms are completely eliminated and replaced with the fields originating mass. In this way, the use of any mass term in any theory is an admission of our ignorance in the structure of the considered mass..... Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1005671 United States 12/07/2010 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was not long ago that physics classified matter into only three states: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.... Quoting: CelticLegendsDark matter, solid, liquid, gas, plasma. 5 states. That my count. So you know that dark matter doesn't "fit" in those other categories, do ya? No dark matter is correct as a state of matter. But you guys are slightly off. The 9 States of Matter/Antimatter Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma (ZERO) AntiPlasma, Antigases, Antiliquids, antisolids. ZERO is the sum of everything. Mass is the seperation of matter perfection which is the vacuum. The definition of a Solid versus a Gas is how the structure operates over time, ironically. If we could speed up time we would see a solid act like a liquid. Even faster it would appear as a gas. So the truth is... The 5 States of Timeless Matter Matter, (-)Plasma, ZERO, (+)Plasma, Anti-matter (+) outbound, (-) inbound, Neutrality, (+) inbound, (-) Outbound imagine the infinite 8 structure |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1187150 United States 12/07/2010 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnetization by rotation and gyromagnetic gyroscopes [link to prb.aps.org] Interpreting magnetization from Faraday rotation in birefringent, magnetic media [link to juwel.fz-juelich.de:8080] |
Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, finally found a site that has hyperlinks to all volumes of Santilli's work. See link below that has the hyperlinks. [link to www.i-b-r.org] HADRONIC MATHEMATICS, MECHANICS AND CHEMISTRY Ruggero Maria Santilli Curriculum President and Editor in Chief The Institute for Basic Research [email protected] Volume I: Limitations of Einstein's Special and General Relativities, Quantum Mechanics and Quantum Chemistry Volume II: Isodual Theory of Antimatter, Antigravity and Spacetime Machines Volume III: Iso-, Geno-, Hyper-Formulations for Matter and Their Isoduals for Antimatter Volume IV: Experimental Verifications, Theoretical Advances and Industrial Applications in Particle Physics, Nuclear Physics and Astrophysics Volume V: Experimental Verifications, Theoretical Advances and Industrial Applications in Chemistry Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
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Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was not long ago that physics classified matter into only three states: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.... Quoting: ºCRAPºDark matter, solid, liquid, gas, plasma. 5 states. That my count. So you know that dark matter doesn't "fit" in those other categories, do ya? No dark matter is correct as a state of matter. But you guys are slightly off. The 9 States of Matter/Antimatter Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma (ZERO) AntiPlasma, Antigases, Antiliquids, antisolids. ZERO is the sum of everything. Mass is the seperation of matter perfection which is the vacuum. The definition of a Solid versus a Gas is how the structure operates over time, ironically. If we could speed up time we would see a solid act like a liquid. Even faster it would appear as a gas. So the truth is... The 5 States of Timeless Matter Matter, (-)Plasma, ZERO, (+)Plasma, Anti-matter (+) outbound, (-) inbound, Neutrality, (+) inbound, (-) Outbound imagine the infinite 8 structure Now how do all of these timeless matters relate to frequencies and the infinite 8? Reason I ask is the more I delve into this subject it always circles back to the infinite 8 structure and a frequency. Thanks. Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awesome thread, I have a lot of reading to do. Thanks for the links. Quoting: Some_GuyThank you. I know there is a ton to digest. Please feel free to add any links that you may find pertinent. Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1185505 United States 12/07/2010 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nature.com] Quoting: Smilin' Irish EyesDavid Toms, a theoretical physicist at Newcastle University, UK, has found that gravity seems to calm the electromagnetic force at high energies. The finding could make some calculations easier, and is a rare case in which gravity seems to work in harmony with quantum mechanics, the theory of small particles. His paper is published today in Nature1. But don't get too excited: that elusive theory of everything is not just around the corner. Not everyone thinks that the calculations will stand up to scrutiny. Given physicists' "dicey" understanding of the relationship between gravity and other forces, it is too early to draw any deep conclusions, says Stanley Deser, a theoretical physicist at Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts. Follow-up studies are needed to put Toms's calculations on solid ground. .... ....There are signs that an even more fundamental theory may be out there. At high energies, electromagnetism and the weak force merge into a single 'electroweak' force; and, at even higher energies, some as yet untested theories known as supersymmetry combine the electroweak and strong nuclear force. Theorists hope that the world's most powerful particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider near Geneva, Switzerland, will provide evidence for this combined strong and electroweak force. But gravity remains a stubborn holdout against efforts to create a theory of everything. The force is too weak at low energies to fit with the others, and it becomes too strong at high energies to be included in a single theory. My concern is that we alter the natural electromagnetic forces with all of our technology. To what extent, not sure? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1185505 United States 12/07/2010 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nature.com] Quoting: Smilin' Irish EyesDavid Toms, a theoretical physicist at Newcastle University, UK, has found that gravity seems to calm the electromagnetic force at high energies. The finding could make some calculations easier, and is a rare case in which gravity seems to work in harmony with quantum mechanics, the theory of small particles. His paper is published today in Nature1. But don't get too excited: that elusive theory of everything is not just around the corner. Not everyone thinks that the calculations will stand up to scrutiny. Given physicists' "dicey" understanding of the relationship between gravity and other forces, it is too early to draw any deep conclusions, says Stanley Deser, a theoretical physicist at Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts. Follow-up studies are needed to put Toms's calculations on solid ground. .... ....There are signs that an even more fundamental theory may be out there. At high energies, electromagnetism and the weak force merge into a single 'electroweak' force; and, at even higher energies, some as yet untested theories known as supersymmetry combine the electroweak and strong nuclear force. Theorists hope that the world's most powerful particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider near Geneva, Switzerland, will provide evidence for this combined strong and electroweak force. But gravity remains a stubborn holdout against efforts to create a theory of everything. The force is too weak at low energies to fit with the others, and it becomes too strong at high energies to be included in a single theory. My concern is that we alter the natural electromagnetic forces with all of our technology. To what extent, not sure? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1005671 United States 12/07/2010 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was not long ago that physics classified matter into only three states: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.... Quoting: Smilin' Irish EyesDark matter, solid, liquid, gas, plasma. 5 states. That my count. So you know that dark matter doesn't "fit" in those other categories, do ya? No dark matter is correct as a state of matter. But you guys are slightly off. The 9 States of Matter/Antimatter Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma (ZERO) AntiPlasma, Antigases, Antiliquids, antisolids. ZERO is the sum of everything. Mass is the seperation of matter perfection which is the vacuum. The definition of a Solid versus a Gas is how the structure operates over time, ironically. If we could speed up time we would see a solid act like a liquid. Even faster it would appear as a gas. So the truth is... The 5 States of Timeless Matter Matter, (-)Plasma, ZERO, (+)Plasma, Anti-matter (+) outbound, (-) inbound, Neutrality, (+) inbound, (-) Outbound imagine the infinite 8 structure Now how do all of these timeless matters relate to frequencies and the infinite 8? Reason I ask is the more I delve into this subject it always circles back to the infinite 8 structure and a frequency. Thanks. I can't say for sure yet. Nor do I fully understand the question. But frequency requires time as measured to understand as a human. Frequency out of time is simply an act of attempt to balance between the antipoles of the 8. As in, every frequency is the same out of time, it just exists as both matter and antimatter interacting towards a balance. btw, both matter and antimatter exist together always. They can not be seperated from its counterpart. BUT, its counter part does not need to be spacial present, it could be billions of light years away but they still interact as if no distance is between them. Definition of frequency out of time and out of matter +/-.....Quasi 3D oscillation. |
Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I DID literally laugh out loud at the intro to this video (for those that don't want to read). This guy really has a good sense of humor and does a decent job of putting into "everyday language". Off to listen/watch the 17 parts of this series. Here is the first video. [link to www.youtube.com] Second video [link to www.youtube.com] Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 954702 United States 12/07/2010 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.handpen.com] Quoting: Smilin' Irish EyesWe have known since the 50s that gravity bends light by observing the apparent change of position of stars near the sun during an eclipse. The sun's gravity bent the light from the stars making them appear to have moved. Light and space/time are inseparable. If you bend one, you bend the other. If you can bend it you can compress it. Therefore, our scientists have known since the 50s that gravity can compress space. And unless those scientests were a lot dumber than I am, they also knew that effective, faster-than-light travel is possible if you can generate a strong gravity field. A hundred years ago nobody would have believed that we could create lighting. Today we can easily create lighting. If our government didn’t confiscate thousands of patents a year under the name of national security, we would already have the gravity machine in public domain.... ...The levitation force measurement between a permanent magnet and a single-grained YBCO sample by ZFC procedure at 77 K. A levitation force over 2,000 g-weight has been measured. _ The dots represent levitation force measurement data at different distance between magnet and superconductor. And a continuous line represents the fitting of the measured data, which shows that F(x) curve can be fitted by an exponential function. However, hundreds of people have seen it fly. And fly it can because it uses a gravity nutralization system that makes it weigh 11% of its original weight. The TR-3B has a circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter. The mercury based plasma is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin, and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, reducing the weight of the aircraft by 89%, and making it able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft. Like other high performance aircraft, the maneuvers are limited to the ability of the crew to withstand G forces. But, inside the TR-3B the G forces are also reduced by 89%. Thus the crew of the TR-3B can perform a 40G maneuver with the crew feeling 4.2 Gs. The TR-3Bs propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l20,000 feet - then who knows how fast it can go!..." The TR-3B is old technology. Really old technology. Over 2000 year old technology. There are ancient Indian texts written in sanskrit that have been found that have schematics, blueprints, construction guides even flight manuals for Vimanas powered by mercury plasma engines. The government just took the old designs and modernized them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1182905 United States 12/07/2010 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gravity doesn't pull. Misunderstood completely. Just Quoting: Smilin' Irish Eyesbecause the apple falls, doesn't mean it's a pull. Man will continue to screw up until he learns it's a PUSH. Of cold hard space on the planet. --------------------------------- Read the links in greater detail. You are right and wrong, it does both...think of electromagnetism. . Ah, the Four Fundamental Forces ... I vaguely remember that from college physics, but there IS some application later on in Life: Strong Force -- me & Donuts (mmm, Donuts ... and Fried Chicken, too) Weak Force -- me & Cauliflower (yuck, who can even eat that crap?) Electromagnetic Force -- the kids & the TV (they always want their Xbox) Gravity -- the wife & the Stretchmarks (although she says the same about my Donut gut -- LOL) . |
Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My concern is that we alter the natural electromagnetic forces with all of our technology. To what extent, not sure? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185505There is much to learn. Tesla did a lot of the groundwork but there is that whole Tunguska event. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
Smilin' Irish Eyes (OP) User ID: 656642 United States 12/07/2010 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The TR-3B is old technology. Really old technology. Over 2000 year old technology. There are ancient Indian texts written in sanskrit that have been found that have schematics, blueprints, construction guides even flight manuals for Vimanas powered by mercury plasma engines. The government just took the old designs and modernized them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 954702Sounds interesting. Would you have a link that I could read in greater detail about the ancient blue prints? Thanks. Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1005671 United States 12/07/2010 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My concern is that we alter the natural electromagnetic forces with all of our technology. To what extent, not sure? Quoting: Smilin' Irish EyesThere is much to learn. Tesla did a lot of the groundwork but there is that whole Tunguska event. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Tunguska happened about the same time Tesla was to do a light show for a US General. Tesla's shop, the Generals location and Tunguska line up in a straight line over the poles. |
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