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DMT: The Spirit Molecule - You want to know what thrusts you beyond the veil?

 
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DMT THE SPIRIT MOLECULE

In November 1990 permission was finally granted to Dr. Rick Strassman to undertake a five-year study of DMT (N, N-dimethyl-tryptamine) at the University of New Mexico's School of Medicine in Albuquerque. This was to be the first legal study of a psychedelic substance in humans for over 20 years. Dr. Strassman, a clinical research psychiatrist, administered various doses of the drug (0.05mg/kg - 0.4 mg/kg) to more than 60 volunteers, adhering closely to medical protocols.

"DMT: The Spirit Molecule" is the book Dr.Strassman wrote about his experiences and those of some of the volunteers in the experiment. He goes well beyond his remit as a scientist, both in terms of his grasp of the complex spiritual, therapeutic and paradigmatic issues that are raised, and in terms of the sensitivity and care with which the research volunteers are treated. Never are they subjected to a reductionist or sceptical attitude, however bizarre their reports.

In his discussion of DMT using the name "Spirit Molecule" Strassman is fusing two approaches; one based on his detailed "nuts and bolts" scientific knowledge and the other on spiritual knowledge and practice. One of the most interesting aspects of the book is the author's investigation into the possible connection between naturally-occurring DMT in mystical states (NDE's for example) and those encountered in outwardly administered DMT. The similarities are striking. Perhaps the most striking is in the area of reported contact and communication with autonomous, intelligent, non-corporeal beings.

The extreme strangeness of the "other worlds" and their "inhabitants" he heard about caused conflicts in the author's mind about how he would choose to integrate them into his worldview (or make the leap into another?) Professional and personal allegiances were also challenged. By the time the experiment drew to a close, mounting pressure from various sources (not just scientific ones) lead to his decision to retire from publicly-funded psychedelic research. However, not before completing some truly groundbreaking work.

The "spirit molecule" is, for Dr.Strassman, essentially a kind of chemical "vehicle", enabling disembodied consciousness to be carried to other realms of existence. If McKenna and the Mayan Calendar creators were right, it may be that we will be needing this vehicle - en masse - in the near future. Rather than a redundant organ like the appendix (as it was once thought) the pineal gland, about which Strassman presents substantial evidence for an essential function in DMT production and assimilation (perhaps supplanting the previously demonstrated synthesis of DMT by blood, brain, and lung), may in fact be a FUTURE ORGAN. Upon this little pine-nut of an organ could rest a new model of brain and mind - indeed a whole new paradigm.

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i wish i could get extract dmt from grass
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The problem with Strassman's work is not everyone sees aliens, elves and beings when they take DMT.

He makes it sound like (like McKenna) this will happen to everyone every time they take DMT...sorry to inform you this is not the case.

Also, for people who inject and smoke synthetic shit, its different than people who brew Ayahuasca.
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One problem with DMT is that all these new age tracts forget to discuss the types of people who take it. Who are they? Tell us their job, doesn't really tell us who they are. PHDs and Abbreviations after their names, don't give us any real clue. Psychologically speaking, they could be anybody, and who knows how many people were given DMT that didn't experience aliens, elves and other beings, that doesn't sell books.

Too much B.S. speculation sold as 'evidence' and 'research.' I have no problem with speculations, but like this site, it simply isn't credible. Also, on the flipside, if you read that book, it is interesting how 'edited' it is. I find it hard to believe that all his subjects had to say on the subject was a sentence or two describing aliens and beings. Just when the person begins their tract, it ends, and isn't followed up. You'd think that after one of these DMT trips, you'd have volumes to say, speculation or not.

Strassman may be the Timothy Leary for DMT, or McKenna, the problem is the info from them is extremely limited and 'directed' or 'biased' towards an agenda about 'evles' and alien beings. Sure aliens and elves are quite interesting, as is some of the info in their books, however, they're not telling the whole truth, and while McKenna died and has nothing else to say, Strassman has built up his little cult of followers who seem to drool over everything the guy has to say, there are even little cult wanna-be clones trying to ride on his coat-tails.

For a substance such as DMT, and if you were to take it, you'd think that would be enough to come up with your own ideas, rather than try to ride on the popularity and coat-tails of people like Strassman and Mckenna.

DMT, or rather Ayhuasca or yaje, is quite the transforming personal experience, and if you've had it, why the hell are you relying on information from Strassman
let alone 'the scientific community' or 'the new age community' or the 'ufo community.' Screw all those morons, DMT seems to be about something deeper once you've had it, than trying to convince the outside world to take a drug that you have taken. This is Leary all over again.

Its out there, if you want it, go get it, why all this shite about turning it into a cult, or making it some sort of subject of scientific investigations...all pharma's going to do with it is turn it into a weapon. All cults are going to do with it is turn it into another drug to control their followers. Seen it all, done it, been there...nothing new here.

You want it? Go out and get it, and have it, it seems to be such a powerful thing, that really...its all about you and it, that's it.
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If you really want to know about synthesized DMT check out Alexander Shulgun.

DMT THE SPIRIT MOLECULE

In November 1990 permission was finally granted to Dr. Rick Strassman to undertake a five-year study of DMT (N, N-dimethyl-tryptamine) at the University of New Mexico's School of Medicine in Albuquerque. This was to be the first legal study of a psychedelic substance in humans for over 20 years. Dr. Strassman, a clinical research psychiatrist, administered various doses of the drug (0.05mg/kg - 0.4 mg/kg) to more than 60 volunteers, adhering closely to medical protocols.

"DMT: The Spirit Molecule" is the book Dr.Strassman wrote about his experiences and those of some of the volunteers in the experiment. He goes well beyond his remit as a scientist, both in terms of his grasp of the complex spiritual, therapeutic and paradigmatic issues that are raised, and in terms of the sensitivity and care with which the research volunteers are treated. Never are they subjected to a reductionist or sceptical attitude, however bizarre their reports.

In his discussion of DMT using the name "Spirit Molecule" Strassman is fusing two approaches; one based on his detailed "nuts and bolts" scientific knowledge and the other on spiritual knowledge and practice. One of the most interesting aspects of the book is the author's investigation into the possible connection between naturally-occurring DMT in mystical states (NDE's for example) and those encountered in outwardly administered DMT. The similarities are striking. Perhaps the most striking is in the area of reported contact and communication with autonomous, intelligent, non-corporeal beings.

The extreme strangeness of the "other worlds" and their "inhabitants" he heard about caused conflicts in the author's mind about how he would choose to integrate them into his worldview (or make the leap into another?) Professional and personal allegiances were also challenged. By the time the experiment drew to a close, mounting pressure from various sources (not just scientific ones) lead to his decision to retire from publicly-funded psychedelic research. However, not before completing some truly groundbreaking work.

The "spirit molecule" is, for Dr.Strassman, essentially a kind of chemical "vehicle", enabling disembodied consciousness to be carried to other realms of existence. If McKenna and the Mayan Calendar creators were right, it may be that we will be needing this vehicle - en masse - in the near future. Rather than a redundant organ like the appendix (as it was once thought) the pineal gland, about which Strassman presents substantial evidence for an essential function in DMT production and assimilation (perhaps supplanting the previously demonstrated synthesis of DMT by blood, brain, and lung), may in fact be a FUTURE ORGAN. Upon this little pine-nut of an organ could rest a new model of brain and mind - indeed a whole new paradigm.

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My friend tried to extract DMT by ordering Mimosa Hostilis Root bark from Brazil. I guess the DEA paid him a visit about after a week ordering it.
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PS, I suspect the exerience of synthesized DMT and Aya are different but I have no first hand experience with synthesized.

DMT THE SPIRIT MOLECULE

In November 1990 permission was finally granted to Dr. Rick Strassman to undertake a five-year study of DMT (N, N-dimethyl-tryptamine) at the University of New Mexico's School of Medicine in Albuquerque. This was to be the first legal study of a psychedelic substance in humans for over 20 years. Dr. Strassman, a clinical research psychiatrist, administered various doses of the drug (0.05mg/kg - 0.4 mg/kg) to more than 60 volunteers, adhering closely to medical protocols.

"DMT: The Spirit Molecule" is the book Dr.Strassman wrote about his experiences and those of some of the volunteers in the experiment. He goes well beyond his remit as a scientist, both in terms of his grasp of the complex spiritual, therapeutic and paradigmatic issues that are raised, and in terms of the sensitivity and care with which the research volunteers are treated. Never are they subjected to a reductionist or sceptical attitude, however bizarre their reports.

In his discussion of DMT using the name "Spirit Molecule" Strassman is fusing two approaches; one based on his detailed "nuts and bolts" scientific knowledge and the other on spiritual knowledge and practice. One of the most interesting aspects of the book is the author's investigation into the possible connection between naturally-occurring DMT in mystical states (NDE's for example) and those encountered in outwardly administered DMT. The similarities are striking. Perhaps the most striking is in the area of reported contact and communication with autonomous, intelligent, non-corporeal beings.

The extreme strangeness of the "other worlds" and their "inhabitants" he heard about caused conflicts in the author's mind about how he would choose to integrate them into his worldview (or make the leap into another?) Professional and personal allegiances were also challenged. By the time the experiment drew to a close, mounting pressure from various sources (not just scientific ones) lead to his decision to retire from publicly-funded psychedelic research. However, not before completing some truly groundbreaking work.

The "spirit molecule" is, for Dr.Strassman, essentially a kind of chemical "vehicle", enabling disembodied consciousness to be carried to other realms of existence. If McKenna and the Mayan Calendar creators were right, it may be that we will be needing this vehicle - en masse - in the near future. Rather than a redundant organ like the appendix (as it was once thought) the pineal gland, about which Strassman presents substantial evidence for an essential function in DMT production and assimilation (perhaps supplanting the previously demonstrated synthesis of DMT by blood, brain, and lung), may in fact be a FUTURE ORGAN. Upon this little pine-nut of an organ could rest a new model of brain and mind - indeed a whole new paradigm.

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DMT is the only psychedelic im scared of, cause my first experience with it was an uncomfortable one.

I would be willing to smoke it again, maybe if it was a little more pure so i could blast right off into hyperspace instead of linger between the two realities.

My friend tried to extract DMT by ordering Mimosa Hostilis Root bark from Brazil. I guess the DEA paid him a visit about after a week ordering it.
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Yeah, my friend used to synth it, althought i never tried any of his batches cause he used to smoke it all or sell it. But he used Acacia Maidenii or Obtusafoilia *Spelling? The latter containing the highest amount of DMT within any plant in Australia.

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I've made tea with Mimosa Hostilis and Syrian Rue, an Ayahuasca like drink and it was pretty intense. I felt really nauseous about 20 minutes after drinking it (it tasted horrible, the most bitter thing you can imagine), so I was clenching my stomach and hiding my head under a pillow and then I heard a voice say "What are you hiding from? There is nothing here to hide from" and then boom, it was like I was shot from a rocket into hyperspace. I can't remember too many specifics, but it felt like being on a rollercoaster at some points, It was explained in a way that this was the flow of creation, I felt myself being destroyed over and over again, torn apart, etc. dying and reexperiencing the birth process, where I was before birth and so on. One thing that coming back was a feeling like being on a beach, but it actually was like being in a lattice like enclosure that was in deep space and it was silent except for a digital hum and every time I would get back there a voice would say "Well here we are again." and then I would be shot out again into this flow rollercoaster like thing and while on this , around me I would see pictures of things, concepts, like fragments of my thought. As well as this, this male voice would keep saying that he loved me and I was in this wonderful embrace and felt so much love. Towards the end, as I stated coming back, there was this constant dialogue, it was telling me everything and I knew it was important, but unfortunately I don't remember any of it, not one word and this must have gone on for at least a half hour. 5 hours later, it was over. I was on the other side of the room from where I started underneath a chair, drenched from sweat and apparently I had pissed myself.
This was the most intense experience I've ever had and I'm pretty familiar with psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD, but this was something else.
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I've made tea with Mimosa Hostilis and Syrian Rue, an Ayahuasca like drink and it was pretty intense. I felt really nauseous about 20 minutes after drinking it (it tasted horrible, the most bitter thing you can imagine), so I was clenching my stomach and hiding my head under a pillow and then I heard a voice say "What are you hiding from? There is nothing here to hide from" and then boom, it was like I was shot from a rocket into hyperspace. I can't remember too many specifics, but it felt like being on a rollercoaster at some points, It was explained in a way that this was the flow of creation, I felt myself being destroyed over and over again, torn apart, etc. dying and reexperiencing the birth process, where I was before birth and so on. One thing that coming back was a feeling like being on a beach, but it actually was like being in a lattice like enclosure that was in deep space and it was silent except for a digital hum and every time I would get back there a voice would say "Well here we are again." and then I would be shot out again into this flow rollercoaster like thing and while on this , around me I would see pictures of things, concepts, like fragments of my thought. As well as this, this male voice would keep saying that he loved me and I was in this wonderful embrace and felt so much love. Towards the end, as I stated coming back, there was this constant dialogue, it was telling me everything and I knew it was important, but unfortunately I don't remember any of it, not one word and this must have gone on for at least a half hour. 5 hours later, it was over. I was on the other side of the room from where I started underneath a chair, drenched from sweat and apparently I had pissed myself.
This was the most intense experience I've ever had and I'm pretty familiar with psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD, but this was something else.
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The problem with Strassman's work is not everyone sees aliens, elves and beings when they take DMT.

He makes it sound like (like McKenna) this will happen to everyone every time they take DMT...sorry to inform you this is not the case.

Also, for people who inject and smoke synthetic shit, its different than people who brew Ayahuasca.
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Thats cos Ayhuasca isn't DMT, tho some brews may have DMT in them others don't.
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McJustice its obtusifolia.
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DMT is the Philosophers Stone.



Alchemy has and always will be about making Medicine.


DMT is what you make the Elixir of Life from guys.
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It's the dream molecule, controlled by pineal gland. It is used at the same time when brain stem both switches off body movement subsystem, and supplies the cortex a stream random and regulated impulses, creating REM sleep.

DMT modulates the time-period of neural signaling, and forces it to operate in a certain scope time/space scope. As a result coherent REM sleep alpha wave organization of neuron subgroups forms.

The aim of REM sleep is to allow new connections to be made, while removing redundant connections. The result is a dream, and when you wake up, you will start from a clean table.

Some thoughts:

- If you wake up between a dream, a conflict was discovered. The result state is allowed to form a permanent memory, which is put on stack for the next REM period to resolve.

- DMT (or other psychedelic) when used as a drug poses some problems, as there are no brain stem control. Your neural system will start to oscillate free in certain time/space units without a scope.

- Your neural system may thus tap into other neural systems, such as language processing subsystem, memory and associations. It may tap into itself, which will cause self-referential visuals to form.

- It may even tap into synaptic operations themselves, which are controlled by DNA. Dreams based on evolutionary memory, or even quantum interactions can be seen.

Cool, we now explained how dreams and psychedelics work!
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It's the dream molecule, controlled by pineal gland. It is used at the same time when brain stem both switches off body movement subsystem, and supplies the cortex a stream random and regulated impulses, creating REM sleep.

DMT modulates the time-period of neural signaling, and forces it to operate in a certain scope time/space scope. As a result coherent REM sleep alpha wave organization of neuron subgroups forms.

The aim of REM sleep is to allow new connections to be made, while removing redundant connections. The result is a dream, and when you wake up, you will start from a clean table.

Some thoughts:

- If you wake up between a dream, a conflict was discovered. The result state is allowed to form a permanent memory, which is put on stack for the next REM period to resolve.

- DMT (or other psychedelic) when used as a drug poses some problems, as there are no brain stem control. Your neural system will start to oscillate free in certain time/space units without a scope.

- Your neural system may thus tap into other neural systems, such as language processing subsystem, memory and associations. It may tap into itself, which will cause self-referential visuals to form.

- It may even tap into synaptic operations themselves, which are controlled by DNA. Dreams based on evolutionary memory, or even quantum interactions can be seen.

Cool, we now explained how dreams and psychedelics work!
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wow, makes a lot of sense.

Would be interesting to know how much DMT the pineal actually releases during REM.

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Does it (pineal gland) even release DMT?

Or is that just one of those things people make up cos it sounds cool.

I'm not saying it doesn't, its just that its one of things that people just started to say. Where did this idea come from? Did someone actually show this scientifically, or did someone just make it up, and cos we all like the idea no one questioned it?
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DMT THE SPIRIT MOLECULE

Research the authors, as with Leary and lsd, another covert operation. People stay away from this stuff.
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Does it (pineal gland) even release DMT?


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I can't find any "studies" that confirm that it does, which makes me suspicious that it does.

Or at least something in the brain creates a DMT-like molecule. Sometimes in large amounts.
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People stay away from this stuff.
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That's like telling your neck to stay away from your head.
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I read this book earlier in the year. I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. I was expecting it to reveal a lot of consistencies between experiences. While the experiencers certainly had quite the trip, some of them were just way weird and didn't strike me as a spiritual experience. I think it's great that someone got to research it, and I think there's still a lot to be learned by more studies, but like I said, I just wasn't that impressed.
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I read this book earlier in the year. I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. I was expecting it to reveal a lot of consistencies between experiences. While the experiencers certainly had quite the trip, some of them were just way weird and didn't strike me as a spiritual experience. I think it's great that someone got to research it, and I think there's still a lot to be learned by more studies, but like I said, I just wasn't that impressed.
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Who here is an authority on what constitutes a spiritual experience?
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I read this book earlier in the year. I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. I was expecting it to reveal a lot of consistencies between experiences. While the experiencers certainly had quite the trip, some of them were just way weird and didn't strike me as a spiritual experience. I think it's great that someone got to research it, and I think there's still a lot to be learned by more studies, but like I said, I just wasn't that impressed.
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Who here is an authority on what constitutes a spiritual experience?
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Nobody is an authority on what's a spiritual experience to others, but every person is an authority on what's a spiritual experience to themselves.

I didn't say they weren't spiritual experiences, I said they didn't strike me as spiritual, or what I had hoped to find. And even some of the people in the book who were part of the study ended up saying that it had no long-term effect on them.

Having read a lot of books on supposed spiritual experiences, OBEs, etc., it left me disappointed. Many people who have deep, moving experiences, are affected by them for the rest of their life. I read this book wanting to find that outcome, to see that there's a way to access that part of the mind. I was sorry to read that wasn't the case for some of the participants.
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The problem with Strassman's work is not everyone sees aliens, elves and beings when they take DMT.

He makes it sound like (like McKenna) this will happen to everyone every time they take DMT...sorry to inform you this is not the case.

Also, for people who inject and smoke synthetic shit, its different than people who brew Ayahuasca.
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of course some it's going to be disinfo. checkout who funded him



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TPTB have been using this for thousands upon thousands of years and they pictures of lock and key, reflect to this being reserved for their kingly class.

It also relates to the philosopher's stone, their false 2 into 1, and URINE.

The Unicorn, dipping its horn into the fountain to purify it.
The Unicorn, the moon, Mary, Isis, Isis's hares and hounds, are all cannibis in all their paintings. Cannabis is related to the fig and is represented in many paintings. The two into one is the philosopher's stone: [link to www.wga.hu]

The sun, the red, with spokes, often in pictures is Santa:
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Thread: Santa and the Philosopher's Stone
Santa and the Philosopher's Stone

The clockwork elves, and the underground dumbs/santa's workshop, where the black ops work with predatory, lower dimension ets to control and murder humans and nwo.

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the menorrah is salvia: [link to www.messianic-torah-truth-seeker.org]

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