ABOUT CROSSBREEDING ANGELS, ALIENS, REPTILLIANS, HYBRIDS! Tell me your ideas!

My original post elsewhere was:

"How could angels mix with humans, if no other race can mix with humans? Does that imply angels are humans, and humans are angels, or share some ability to reproduce together?

But even when a person mixes a horse with a donkey, they get a creature that can't reproduce.

Would you like to discuss your ideas on this?"

Perhaps others have a better understanding of genetics, and/or better tech?

You mean other people? Or other races? Yeah its possible that they do! It would require the ability for such things to happen though! I'm not saying there isn't such an ability! But alot of people just jump into the whole hybrid thing without realizing some things about humans and other creatures who are actually very genetically similar to each other but can't reproduce with each other for the most part.

Your thoughts are a convoluted mess, and your reasoning is illogical...

Humanity is a completely different creation from angels. You even wrote that angels can take on the form of man, so how did you come to the human is angel thought anyway? It doesn't make any sense!

I'm sorry if it wasn't clear. I deeply apologize.

I believe angels are a completely different creation from humans. I don't believe they can interbreed with humans. If they could "come down and mate" with humans as some suggest they did to produce "giants" or a hybrid race of beings, they would need to be something close to humans themselves. Since other races that are close to humans cant reproduce with them through mating, but according to these accounts angels could.

I don't believe that is the case though. I believe angels and humans don't mate, that there was no crossbreeding which produced a hybrid race of beings. I might even go so far as to say that I personally believe angels are not made of the same kind of carbon based material as humans, and don't carry genetics, or have sperm or eggs for reproduction. I don't know if any of this is true or not.

I'm only suggesting that if people think about it, they might realize how weird the beliefs have to get for this to be believed. It might not seem as strange if humans and other creatures were producing hybrids regularly, but we'd probably all be centaurs by now!

The angels had sex with human women ...Adamic means to show blood in the face or blush (white people) ....


by mixing they created 'other races' Cain was the first Jew or Edomite...... the son of Nacash(satan)


that's the 2 seedlines talked about in Gen 3:15


Satan's seedline and Eve's seedline - SEED is sperma


Genesis 3:15

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

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That means Satan is like a human being so much so that he can mate and reproduce with human kind. So then how are we not like Satan or the angels?

Adam means (according to etymonline, an online etymology dictionary)

"Biblical name of the first man, from Heb. adam "man," lit. "(the one formed from the) ground" (Heb. adamah "ground"); cf. L. homo "man," humanus "human," humus "earth, ground, soil." To not know (someone) from Adam "not know him at all" is first recorded 1784."

Here is another from answerbag "Adam means "(red) earth."

'Adama' is earth, 'adom' is red and Adam literally means man. They're all spelled the same way in Hebrew but have different pronunciations.

(Ad´am) [Earthling Man; Mankind; Humankind; from a root meaning "red"].

One could agree that humans are all red underneath, possibly due to the iron in us (like our blood and muscle tissue as depicted in anatomy books).

Now it heres what wikipedia says:

Adam (Hebrew: אָדָם‎, Arabic: آدم‎) in Biblical (as well as modern) Hebrew is sometimes used as the personal name of an individual and at other times in a generic sense meaning "mankind", in the same way as the earlier Canaanite 'adam.

The usage of the word as personal pre-dates the generic usage. Its root is not the standard Semitic root for "man" which is instead '-(n)-sh but is attested as a personal name in the Assyrian King List in the form Adamu

Etymologically it is the masculine form of the word adamah meaning ground or earth and related to the words adom (red), admoni (ruddy) and dam (blood)

A red blooded human being if you use all the connecting terms together. I don't think anything implies "fair skin". The word also developed in places where people probably had alot more pigmentation.

Hi, would you like to post personal comments about this?

No problem, I questioned because I wanted to understand what you were saying.

Two things we know from the scriptures...
1. Angels are spirit beings, not physical
2. Angels do have the ability to appear as physical humans

So, the question is...
When they take on human form, can they assume all features and physiological functions (i.e. reproduction)?

I would be inclined to believe they can. If they can appear so much like a man that you could have one in your house and eat dinner with him and never know he was not human, then they could likely transform (or take on) a 100% fully functional human body form.

Did this happen and did angels breed with human women and have hybrid offspring called the Nephilim? I have studied this question for several years and I still cannot come to a ultimate conclusion.

There is strong circumstantial evidence for it; ancient writings (such as the Book of Enoch) and also many ancient 'myths' and legends about demi-gods created by marriage between gods and women (such as the Greek Titans).

On the other hand, I have theological doubts that God would allow that to happen; not just command the angels to not do it, but to not give them the ability. I believe there is just as much a possibility that the hybrid Nephilim theory is a Satanic deception as there is a possibility of any truth to it.

Last Edited by Majestic on 12/20/2010 07:51 AM

None of this is true.

I really like this post, it is very well written, thank you.

If the angel came in an entirely human form, why would anyone think it is a God?

Where in scripture does it say the angels ate food when they came in human form? I thought they didn't eat in any scriptural accounts.

I also doubt God would allow that to happen.

I believe that Satan's deception has always been or led to the idea that human beings can be God, demi Gods, or some kind of higher being.

I also disbelieve in these ideas.

What are your personal opinions on this, if any?

Theologically and historically you are wrong. Let God be true and every man a liar, the scriptures are clear, that the fallen angels had intercourse with the humans and descecrated their seed of mankind. That is why the scriptures are very clear that Noah was a man "perfect in his generations" which alludes to the genetic aspect of being purely human; that is how Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

The plan of the serpent was to taint the bloodline of humans to the point that the savior, that had been prophesied in Gen.3:15 could not be born. Seed is seed, and their are two parties in the passage, the seed of the woman= the human race; the seed of the serpent= Nephilim.

You have great potential for wisdom Majestic, but you continually drop the ball when it counts the most. Probably why you are still an outsider who knows nothing.

I just finished a book titled "earths earliest ages" where the author proposes that the fallen angles were intellectual giants. Theses intellectual giants were the ones called gods in all the old civilizations from ancient China to the Egyptian gods. Ties in with enoch who says the same:


1Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered.

2Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways.

3Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots:

4Armers taught the solution of sorcery;

5Barkayal taught the observers of the stars, (9)

(9) Observers of the stars. Astrologers (Charles, p. 67).

6Akibeel taught signs;

7Tamiel taught astronomy;

8And Asaradel taught the motion of the moon,

9And men, being destroyed, cried out; and their voice reached to heaven.

If you are referring to the Greek legends of the gods and their demi-god offspring, the angels would have put their powers on display and represented themselves as gods. They would likely have even transformed themselves into their natural spirit form in front of the humans as a sign of their power.

The Book of Enoch tells that it was these angels that gave mankind all sorts of forbidden knowledge; such as weapons, metallurgy, astrology, cosmetics, and science (apparently including genetics!).

The pro-Nephilim story argues that these angels did not hide the fact that they were supernatural beings; they would transform into human bodies to have intercourse with women and sire offspring but they also displayed many signs, wonders, and knowledge.



Genesis... the three angels that came to Abraham ate lunch with him.


That is one of the original lies told in the Garden of Eden, "ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil". And it remains a popular lie that is growing in popularity through the New Age and spiritualism movement... "god is within you".

I wonder if the Nephilim legend could be a Satanic deception because there are many possible reasons; such as confuse us regarding truth, undermine our faith in the scriptures or doubt God's Word, use it as distraction so we are not looking at things we should be looking at, etc.

Last Edited by Majestic on 12/20/2010 08:35 AM

"Opinions are like assholes, everbody's got one." Clint Eastwood.

I am no one, so mine doesn't matter,....

You are taking you desire for the Nephilim story to be true and fitting it into the scriptures. The scriptures are not very clear at all that angels had intercourse with women. There are two very brief and ambiguous verses that have been puffed up and a whole theology built around them. They may tell of fallen angels having offspring with women, but they just as well may not. And for you to say the scriptures are 'very clear' shows your bias and clouded judgment because you want it to be true.

As for seed, it does not mean 'sperma' and it does not always refer to genetic offspring. many uses in the scriptures it has a spiritual meaning about a group.

For example:
And if ye belong to Christ, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
(Galatians 3:29)

Does this mean if I believe in Christ I am magically a physical descendant of Abraham's genetic line (his 'sperma')? Or does it mean if I accept Christ I am a member of the spiritual family of Abraham?

Last Edited by Majestic on 12/20/2010 08:30 AM

If you exist, your opinion might matter. Lets say your opinion doesn't matter but I'd still like to know! Would you share it? Cause I do want to know what someone who considers themselves no one thinks! It might be just what I think too!

I thought they did not eat with him, but I may be mixing up the Qur'an's version of the story:

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Has there come to you information about the honored guests of Abraham?

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Behold, they entered his presence, and said: "Peace!" He said, "Peace!" (and thought, "These seem) unusual people."

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Then he turned quickly to his household, brought out a fatted calf,


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And placed it before them.. he said, "Will ye not eat?"

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(When they did not eat), He conceived a fear of them. They said, "Fear not," and they gave him glad tidings of a son endowed with knowledge.

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Then his wife came up in great grief, and she struck her face and said: An old barren woman!

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They said, "Even so has thy Lord spoken: and He is full of Wisdom and Knowledge."

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(Abraham) said: "And what, O ye Messengers, is your errand (now)?"

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They said, "We have been sent to a people who are (deep) in sin.

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"That we may send upon them stones of clay,"

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"Marked as from thy Lord for those who trespass beyond bounds."

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As for the Biblical version, one website states that Rabbi Baruch S. Davidson says "What about the angels? How could they eat non-kosher? According to one opinion, the angels didn't eat at all; they merely appeared to be eating, out of respect for their host."

In the Bible, Jesus seems to imply that spirit beings do not eat food:

Luke 24:36-46

[36] While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you."

[37] They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. [38] He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? [39] Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."

[40] When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. [41] And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?" [42] They gave him a piece of broiled fish, [43] and he took it and ate it in their presence.

[44] He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."

[45] Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. [46] He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day."

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One could say that spirit beings who take human form go so far as to be able to eat food, but I don't know if it is clear how material they are, or just appearing in human forms.
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Sorry if I used bad examples. I personally don't believe that angels mated with human beings though. Other groups of people or individuals have had terms that were thought to apply to these angels specifically (sons of God) and it didn't mean those people were angelic beings.

In any case, angel comes from a greek word which means messenger due to the hebrew word for angel meaning messenger.

From Wikipedia:

"A Mal'akh also: Mal'ach or Mal'aqh; plural Mal'akhim) is a messenger of God, an angelic envoy or an angel in general who appears throughout the Hebrew Bible, Rabbinic literature, and traditional Jewish liturgy. "

"Hebrew "Mal'akh" from the Semitic consonantal root l-'-k meaning "to send". This root is attested in Hebrew only in this noun and in the noun "Melakha" meaning "work"."

I think you have the right idea about these things! I think people twist scripture alot and end up getting entirely distracted from its central message which is to worship and obey God.

Last Edited by FreedomStands on 12/20/2010 08:59 AM

If you noticed when you quote me, no name shows. That logically proves I am nobody, no one.

13 ancient races targeted 2012, and several held rituals about that, some including sacrifices of the winners.
All wished to be here, alive now, at this exact moment, and we are fortunate enough to be,.... & witnessing.

At no other TIME has man had such a vast array of possibilities available, ever.

If you followed simple biology/genetics from your 7~10th grade your answers should be known already on if/how.

Woah! You ended up saying alot of interesting things! I'd really like to know more! Can you tell me more about this? Who or what are the 13 ancient races. What are the big rituals and what are they like? They want to be alive, here, now? How? How do the biology lessons help?

Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

These cultures have a 2012 target

* Hopi Predict a 25yr period of purification followed by End of Fourth World and beginning of the Fifth.
* Mayans Call it the 'end days' or the end of time as we know it.
* Maoris Say that as the veils dissolve there will be a merging of the physical & spiritual worlds.
* Zulu Believe that the whole world will be turned upside down.
* Hindus Kali Yuga (end time of man). The Coming of Kalki & critical mass of Enlightened Ones.
* Incas Call it the 'Age of Meeting Ourselves Again'.
* Aztec Call this the Time of the Sixth Sun. A time of transformation. Creation of new race.
* Dogon Say that the spaceship of the visitors, the Nommo, will return in the form of a blue star
* Pueblo Acknowledge it'll be the emergence into the Fifth World
* Cherokee Their ancient calendar ends exactly at 2012 as does the Mayan calendar.
* Tibetan Kalachakra teachings are prophesies left by Buddha predicting Coming of the Golden Age.
* Egypt According to the Great Pyramid (stone calendar), present time cycle ends in year 2012 AD

That happens at 12/21/12 11:11 UT . Those calendars cease, or start over. I-Ching also targets 2012.

Each had their own rituals according to their own customs.
The Mayan had a ball game similar to soccer. A ball had to be manipulated through a hoop on the side of the wall that it barely fit through, to win. Each team wanted to win, and the winners were sacrificed to save the losers,.... and the rest.

Biology taught genetics, dominant and lesser traits. The answers are there.

Thank you so much for taking the time to type that! I really appreciate it!

What are you doing to prepare for this?

Anyone else?

"What are you doing to prepare for this?"
More resembles as if being prepared,.... not preparing for.
Acceptance for the tasks that manifest,.... calmly.