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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ma or m is matter. So it that what we are not...matter, and we are energy? 2 working together =synergy? Quoting: acyour right i am sure my "issue" is i detect the original motive for their choice of words not knowing plus desire to control today we can look at their same words and apply what we know this day to make work (sense) of what they never could glad you here |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ancient Mayan skull made of volcanic rock and believed to have magic powers to protect humanity on Dec. 21, 2012 — the date widely interpreted by modern scholars to be that of the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar — somehow took a tumble and broke, UPI reported. Quoting: [link to www.nbcchicago.com] It was unclear whether the skull, named Quauthemoc, was dropped or simply fell. A piece of its chin chipped off in the accident. Talk about silencing the lambs... oh good to see you |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Engravings of Female Genitalia May Be World's Oldest Cave Art [link to news.sciencemag.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16173868 United States 05/16/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ma or m is matter. So it that what we are not...matter, and we are energy? 2 working together =synergy? Quoting: acyour right i am sure my "issue" is i detect the original motive for their choice of words not knowing plus desire to control today we can look at their same words and apply what we know this day to make work (sense) of what they never could glad you here I understand exacty what you are saying....I got the same, hence my posts with ancestor last evening...on a much smaller matter of course, but they learn from us, and it is very differnt than what they have ever known because they have not experienced it as we do today. Remember, they only survive if we do...but this is our time...not theirs...ancestor made that very clear I thought to both of us, or you heard that...right? She said it is our history we now write... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16173868 United States 05/16/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In modern humans the mandibular arch is formed by fusion at the centre of two separate bones, a process complete by two years of age. The thickening of this arch at the centre forms the prominent and distinctive chin. The well-defined chin and prominent nose of humans interrupt the generally vertical profile of adult human faces and are said to be distinguishing characteristics separating modern humans from prehuman ancestors and from other primates Read more: [link to www.answers.com] |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ma or m is matter. So it that what we are not...matter, and we are energy? 2 working together =synergy? Quoting: acyour right i am sure my "issue" is i detect the original motive for their choice of words not knowing plus desire to control today we can look at their same words and apply what we know this day to make work (sense) of what they never could glad you here I understand exacty what you are saying....I got the same, hence my posts with ancestor last evening...on a much smaller matter of course, but they learn from us, and it is very differnt than what they have ever known because they have not experienced it as we do today. Remember, they only survive if we do...but this is our time...not theirs...ancestor made that very clear I thought to both of us, or you heard that...right? She said it is our history we now write... well if you remember they don`t talk to me because i don`t see it their way, they utilize what i do because it fits what they desire to do that being said in our past few weeks i have become more empathic to their way of seeing i believe i wrote it on this thread, so, it is becoming easier for me to listen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16173868 United States 05/16/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding. but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12805141 United States 05/16/2012 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16173868 but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess. I think I'm a bit lost as to what is the original question, or what are we to learn from the ancients? Was it the golden age of the past? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16173868 United States 05/16/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16173868 but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess. I think I'm a bit lost as to what is the original question, or what are we to learn from the ancients? Was it the golden age of the past? I'm not so sure...this shit obviously takes much time. If we spoke the same damn language it would be much easier... It could very well just be that they wish to survive and go on to wherever we are...lol But in my own opinion, I believe to understand one another better, then we need communication... I don't guess the past really matters much, because she did say stop looking back that this was our time...that is just hard for me to do right now, because my ancestry project takes me back....that was just weird timming of it I guess. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16173868 but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess. well that is them and it is an easy emotion to translate like on aruna`s human energy thread when they invited me to feel as them, and i did, showing me we are the same having wepwawet as clear as day for several months making introductions etc, etc, all part of a process not of my making but one that i don`t mind participating in that seems to fit into my own motives the funny part is it seems to me often that i am the "alien" personality they are getting used to |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12805141 United States 05/16/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16173868 but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess. I think I'm a bit lost as to what is the original question, or what are we to learn from the ancients? Was it the golden age of the past? I'm not so sure...this shit obviously takes much time. If we spoke the same damn language it would be much easier... It could very well just be that they wish to survive and go on to wherever we are...lol But in my own opinion, I believe to understand one another better, then we need communication... I don't guess the past really matters much, because she did say stop looking back that this was our time...that is just hard for me to do right now, because my ancestry project takes me back....that was just weird timming of it I guess. This is where I have a hard time following. I guess because I think of the past as us in the past. Which is good to look at for wisdom, but I feel like humanity is timeless. And in that timelessness there is only one language and understanding. A whole picture per say. So I think timelessness = energy, time=matter. But the energy doesn't loose the information, just needs to rediscover it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 05/16/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the past were speaking to us, I'd like to think it's saying "don't repeat the mistakes we made". The problem with that? Some old paradigms prefer the repetition thus making listening without context or a clear picture of all the variables leaves us vulnerable to falling into yet another trap... and assuming those that speak from the past don't have their own ulterior motives and always have our best interests at heart. Some of it's true, some of it's false, most of it's meaningless whether true or false. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is where I have a hard time following. I guess because I think of the past as us in the past. Which is good to look at for wisdom, but I feel like humanity is timeless. And in that timelessness there is only one language and understanding. A whole picture per say. Quoting: acSo I think timelessness = energy, time=matter. But the energy doesn't loose the information, just needs to rediscover it. i get your point and aruna and second p tell the same and they are right, as you are but there do exist physical and mental differences which makes it awkward for both the ancient and the today to experience it your way remember our planet`s environment has altered and with it the shape of all things on it, our past archeology shows us that our thinking was different to and our natural abilities we utilized in daily life but there has to be a point of us knowing who we are so we are discovering what we were as a consequence of discovering what we are Last Edited by aether on 05/16/2012 06:17 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12805141 United States 05/16/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is where I have a hard time following. I guess because I think of the past as us in the past. Which is good to look at for wisdom, but I feel like humanity is timeless. And in that timelessness there is only one language and understanding. A whole picture per say. Quoting: acSo I think timelessness = energy, time=matter. But the energy doesn't loose the information, just needs to rediscover it. i get your point and aruna and second p tell the same and they are right, as you are but there do exist physical and mental differences which makes it awkward for both the ancient and the today to experience it your way remember our planet`s environment has altered and with it the shape of all things on it, our past archeology shows us that our thinking was different to and our natural abilities we utilized in daily life but there has to be a point of us knowing who we are so we are discovering what we were as a consequence of discovering what we are wow, I actually get something your saying! lol! |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the past were speaking to us, I'd like to think it's saying "don't repeat the mistakes we made". The problem with that? Some old paradigms prefer the repetition thus making listening without context or a clear picture of all the variables leaves us vulnerable to falling into yet another trap... and assuming those that speak from the past don't have their own ulterior motives and always have our best interests at heart. Some of it's true, some of it's false, most of it's meaningless whether true or false. Quoting: Nanellen well it seems when we go back far enough the message is what we have discovered recently works because once, a long time ago, it worked before the funny part is, it was so long ago that our rediscoveries have absolutely no meaning for perhaps 10,000`s of thousands of years back it looks very likely we are hovering between 37000 years and and 50,000 years ago |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12805141 United States 05/16/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the past were speaking to us, I'd like to think it's saying "don't repeat the mistakes we made". The problem with that? Some old paradigms prefer the repetition thus making listening without context or a clear picture of all the variables leaves us vulnerable to falling into yet another trap... and assuming those that speak from the past don't have their own ulterior motives and always have our best interests at heart. Some of it's true, some of it's false, most of it's meaningless whether true or false. Quoting: Nanellen Which makes me think of the places that hold certain energy and in that area it wants to replicate the same thing over and over and over...whether good or bad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1095970 United States 05/16/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both your posts fit! Its just taking so much time and it takes away from those I love...I was telling her that last night...but the bigger picture is universal...I'm just a tiny spec in it yet it feels like the weight of the world... All matter returns back to its original place... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 05/16/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both your posts fit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1095970 Its just taking so much time and it takes away from those I love...I was telling her that last night...but the bigger picture is universal...I'm just a tiny spec in it yet it feels like the weight of the world... All matter returns back to its original place... Which is just a simple yet cryptic way of saying that all matter was once one. In our closed system, where matter recycles, the matter that comprises us has never been "ours", it coalesces into us, out of us and back again. Then we're back to we are our ancestors, we are stardust, we're everything that is, was and will be. There's one single point of origin any way you slice it. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both your posts fit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1095970 Its just taking so much time and it takes away from those I love...I was telling her that last night...but the bigger picture is universal...I'm just a tiny spec in it yet it feels like the weight of the world... All matter returns back to its original place... Which is just a simple yet cryptic way of saying that all matter was once one. In our closed system, where matter recycles, the matter that comprises us has never been "ours", it coalesces into us, out of us and back again. Then we're back to we are our ancestors, we are stardust, we're everything that is, was and will be. There's one single point of origin any way you slice it. memory ? memory of origin field which for convenience we call gravity keeps all memory within original location of memory until memory possess self awareness that matches our self aware universe then either mechanically (action/distance near instant) or by death (deform) memory (you) can relocate (reform/re born) outside of magnetosphere/heliosphere the knowing that is required to mechanically (ship) travel action/distance forces self awareness to match the self awareness of the medium you travel through |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 05/16/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Respectfully disagree...I don't think it has ever been just one...too complex...which is why one serves the other...probably not the best words to explain what I feel...but anyway Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084634 The origin of all I've witnessed feels like a singularity from which all things were once contracted into then expanded with great force, an enormous pool of chaos (as in the original usage of the term, stable/unstable pool of energy/matter) that desired individuation thus "orgasmically" exploding out to become everything. Like a huge pool of creative potential with an opposite pool that collects this energy/matter back to recycle it back in, but the opposites are the same ad infinitum. I can't say I fully understand it and I DEFINITELY can't express it via math... I could show you if I touched your hand (my weird talent, lmao), but barring that, I can only use the limitations of words to describe it. All things were one, are one, will be one again, but they weren't one, were never one and will never be one again. There's no duality in it, again... hard to explain that. The complexity is both simple and ineffable. In other words, it makes sense if you see it, not so much with description via limited language. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/16/2012 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Respectfully disagree...I don't think it has ever been just one...too complex...which is why one serves the other...probably not the best words to explain what I feel...but anyway Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084634 The origin of all I've witnessed feels like a singularity from which all things were once contracted into then expanded with great force, an enormous pool of chaos (as in the original usage of the term, stable/unstable pool of energy/matter) that desired individuation thus "orgasmically" exploding out to become everything. Like a huge pool of creative potential with an opposite pool that collects this energy/matter back to recycle it back in, but the opposites are the same ad infinitum. I can't say I fully understand it and I DEFINITELY can't express it via math... I could show you if I touched your hand (my weird talent, lmao), but barring that, I can only use the limitations of words to describe it. All things were one, are one, will be one again, but they weren't one, were never one and will never be one again. There's no duality in it, again... hard to explain that. The complexity is both simple and ineffable. In other words, it makes sense if you see it, not so much with description via limited language. that reminds me of something : “ ...At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was very thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this etherieally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed Quoting: Rabbi Moses ben Naḥman Girondi, Bonastruc ça Porta 1194 -1270 [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16168966 Ireland 05/16/2012 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is where I have a hard time following. I guess because I think of the past as us in the past. Which is good to look at for wisdom, but I feel like humanity is timeless. And in that timelessness there is only one language and understanding. A whole picture per say. Quoting: acSo I think timelessness = energy, time=matter. But the energy doesn't loose the information, just needs to rediscover it. i get your point and aruna and second p tell the same and they are right, as you are but there do exist physical and mental differences which makes it awkward for both the ancient and the today to experience it your way remember our planet`s environment has altered and with it the shape of all things on it, our past archeology shows us that our thinking was different to and our natural abilities we utilized in daily life but there has to be a point of us knowing who we are so we are discovering what we were as a consequence of discovering what we are who is second P and why is it ... it looks like WF is talking to her self having a long conversation with someone who is HER.... he? you guys make no sense any more |