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HOW TO GET INTO HEAVEN: THE LIST! PLEASE HELP ME REDUCE IT!

 
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2. Respecting all people, Be respectful and kind to your elders, Treat everyone as your elder
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So we should respect those people who would do anything to screw us over for their personal benefit?

What are you, a sadist? No self esteem?

No wonder society fails so hard, people like taking it up the ass without lube so much they come back for more.
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Respect yes, but God is all about justice. Sometimes we have to respect others by giving a criminal the justice needed. They can repent to God, hopefully. And that's all we can do.
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JUST ONE WAY>
Believe that Jesus is the son of GOD, and ask for forgiveness.
That's all.
DEEDS WILL GET YOU NOWHERE!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1182438

Yes this is true, but many say they know Jesus. Actually the Bible says they follow another Jesus. We know we follow Jesus by doing what e says.
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The final words.
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JUST ONE WAY>
Believe that Jesus is the son of GOD, and ask for forgiveness.
That's all.
DEEDS WILL GET YOU NOWHERE!!
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What does a person act like after they get the Holy Spirit?
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
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Anyone?
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
 Quoting: FreedomStands


1 Thessalonians 4:14
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.

Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.



No work can get you in heaven. Only our faith, belief, and acceptance in the gift that GOD gave mankind through the offering of His Son for the remission and purging of sins and renewal to life through Christ, for He is the door.

Romans 4:4
Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. (See?)

Romans 4:14
If God's promise is only for those who obey the law, then faith is not necessary and the promise is pointless.

Romans 4:16
So the promise is received by faith. It is given as a free gift. And we are all certain to receive it, whether or not we live according to the law of Moses, if we have faith like Abraham's. For Abraham is the father of all who believe.

Romans 5:1
Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.


Romans 5:5
And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love.

How can we know that the love of GOD is in us? Or how can it be discerned?

By this:
John 14:21
Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them."

Our works cannot get us to heaven, but they do confirm that we love GOD and that the Love of GOD and His Holy Spirit is within us. Meaning, we have accepted the gift provided by GOD through the sacrifice and revival of His Son.


How beautiful eh? Imagine living in a place where everyone kept the commandments and statues you listed on the first page! Such is to be found in the Kingdom of GOD and within every believer in the Hope and Promise(s) God have given mankind. :)
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Being reborn so your connection to the Holy Spirit to your spirit and becoming a instrument in with He can work through. Get to know His voice and He will tell you what to do.

Your list is a waste of His time for your goodness does not please Him. Obedience and that connection are the keys.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind

partially right if YOU know what the HOLY spirit is. Goodness is absolutely essential because your holy spirit won't even show up unless you have a normal mind and not until you do your first conscious willing knowing good deed. that is just the facts, mam.
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
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Freedom, you just again just missed my WHOLE POINT. The ONLY thing needed, is to Desire to become LIKE GOD and these rest will be added unto you. In your desire to become like God, so shall your guardian angel assist that process, as well as your "holy spirit' which is not the 3rd person of trinity but the first. The Father Fragment is what some christians mistake as the Holy spirit. It is HOLY, but it's First Person Trinity, not 3rd person.

to Christians here, it was not the "Holy spirit" that was bestowed on Pentacost, go read your KJB bible, it was the SPIRIT OF Truth.
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
 Quoting: FreedomStands


John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


John 3:21
But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants."


Works cannot get us into heaven. Only our Faith, Belief, and Acceptance in GOD's gift to mankind, which came in the form of His Son.

Ephesians 2:9
Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

Titus 3:5
he saved us, but not because of anything we had done to gain his approval. Instead, because of his mercy he saved us through the washing in which the Holy Spirit gives us new birth and renewal.

The works come into play here:

John 14:21
Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.”


But certainly, salvation is not gained by works. Rather, the works verify our faith in GOD's promise of the free gift of salvation and also verify that we love GOD and His Son and that we delight in His commandments(for they are indeed good for all of mankind).
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
 Quoting: FreedomStands



Freedom, just you again just miss my WHOLE POINT. The ONLY thing needed, is to Desire to become LIKE GOD and these rest will be added unto you.
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I understand that.

This thread isn't so much about reaching heaven or the mansion worlds, but rather about what behavior is beneficial in life on Earth today.

Can you list the qualities of God or what things are "like" God? That might help.
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
 Quoting: FreedomStands


John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


John 3:21
But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants."


Works cannot get us into heaven. Only our Faith, Belief, and Acceptance in GOD's gift to mankind, which came in the form of His Son.

Ephesians 2:9
Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

Titus 3:5
he saved us, but not because of anything we had done to gain his approval. Instead, because of his mercy he saved us through the washing in which the Holy Spirit gives us new birth and renewal.

The works come into play here:

John 14:21
Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.”


But certainly, salvation is not gained by works. Rather, the works verify our faith in GOD's promise of the free gift of salvation and also verify that we love GOD and His Son and that we delight in His commandments(for they are indeed good for all of mankind).
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When one is saved by grace of God, what qualities do they then have?
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
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Freedom, you just again just missed my WHOLE POINT. The ONLY thing needed, is to Desire to become LIKE GOD and these rest will be added unto you. In your desire to become like God, so shall your guardian angel assist that process, as well as your "holy spirit' which is not the 3rd person of trinity but the first. The Father Fragment is what some christians mistake as the Holy spirit. It is HOLY, but it's First Person Trinity, not 3rd person.

to Christians here, it was not the "Holy spirit" that was bestowed on Pentacost, go read your KJB bible, it was the SPIRIT OF Truth.
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Thank you for the additional information. I responded to your comment above.
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blackcat Why the constant preoccupation with "doing things your way." Be warned you will not get into heaven because you are disobeying the Lords very clear commandments on this matter.

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you don't have to be religious or pray in order to go to heaven. just be a good person, and you'll get there!!!! what i mean by 'being good' is not to impose on other's freewill. cool2
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Not according to the Bible.
All the OTHER religions being good is how you "get to heaven".

The New Testament gospel.. The Gospel of Jesus Christ.... says accept with your mouth and believe with your heart that Jesus is Lord.
If you try to get to heaven by another way you are lost... per the New Testament.

Now I know that is not how most Christians view their faith but that is the truth of it.
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just live in love that's it
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blackcat Why the constant preoccupation with "doing things your way." Be warned you will not get into heaven because you are disobeying the Lords very clear commandments on this matter.

FLIGHT 144... [link to www.chick.com]
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Me?

The title of the thread might be slightly misleading.

This thread is meant to be about a list of the best qualities or qualities you consider best that pertain to a beneficial life and interaction with all.
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just live in love that's it
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What is love? How do we live in love?
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just live in love that's it
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What is love? How do we live in love?
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You know what it is.

Best way back is thru destruction of the ego. Shamans and natives to this planet knew the way home thru the mother goddess, the native plants on this planet.Do some study on the cultures that were destroyed to bring in the bible and Christianity they were living in love.

I am on my way back now thanks to the shaman. All of the keys are here too bad that the Illuminati has made the substances that activate the god head aganist the law. Look and you will find hint it is not in a book.
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just live in love that's it
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What is love? How do we live in love?
 Quoting: FreedomStands

You know what it is.

Best way back is thru destruction of the ego. Shamans and natives to this planet knew the way home thru the mother goddess, the native plants on this planet.Do some study on the cultures that were destroyed to bring in the bible and Christianity they were living in love.

I am on my way back now thanks to the shaman. All of the keys are here too bad that the Illuminati has made the substances that activate the god head aganist the law. Look and you will find hint it is not in a book.
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Could you tell me what love is, even if I "know" what it is?
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So did anyone notice any parts that can be combined?
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When one is saved by grace of God, what qualities do they then have?
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The qualities of a true child of GOD. How does a child of GOD behave? As Jesus behaved while here on Earth. Jesus is the first born SON of GOD and the express ImageLikeness of GOD.

Jesus behaved the same way He commanded mankind to live.

Luke 10:27
He answered: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

1 John 2:29
Since we know that Christ is righteous, we also know that all who do what is right are God's children.


How do we verify whether we love GOD or not? Or are neighbor as ourselves?

John 14:21
Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them."


How do we know if we do not love GOD?

John 14:24
Anyone who doesn't love me will not obey me. And remember, my words are not my own. What I am telling you is from the Father who sent me.
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All law can be broken down into two rules..

Rule of Law (criminal law)
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Rule of Equity (civil, contract law)
Keep your promises.


Is that reduced enough? tounge



hf
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Thanks.

What I was hoping for was a look through the current list and see if there are repeated entries that can be put together.
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All law can be broken down into two rules..

Rule of Law (criminal law)
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Rule of Equity (civil, contract law)
Keep your promises.


Is that reduced enough? tounge



hf
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I think that some promises can be broken, especially if we made them in ignorance or are unable to fulfill them, or if we learn that they are harmful.

I think that one can go beyond "do unto others as you would have others do unto you" and give them even better than we might expect for ourselves.
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All law can be broken down into two rules..

Rule of Law (criminal law)
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Rule of Equity (civil, contract law)
Keep your promises.


Is that reduced enough? tounge



hf
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Do sound like obligation.

"Rather, we ought to love GOD(Who is LOVE), with all our heart, soul, and strength. And to love our neighbor as ourselves."

Free will versus obligation and duty. GOD isn't forcing anyone to choose Him or His commandments, even though they are obviously great and healthy for any person. Rather, He is letting everyone make up their own minds and at the same time reminding all that there is a due date for the decision.
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The two commandments Jesus gave mankind are basically all the commandments simplified into two. At least to the person GOD grants the understand to to understand such a thing.
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The two commandments Jesus gave mankind are basically all the commandments simplified into two. At least to the person GOD grants the understanding.
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Simplified and fixed.
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blackcat Why the constant preoccupation with "doing things your way." Be warned you will not get into heaven because you are disobeying the Lords very clear commandments on this matter.

FLIGHT 144... [link to www.chick.com]
 Quoting: Judeth


Me?

The title of the thread might be slightly misleading.

This thread is meant to be about a list of the best qualities or qualities you consider best that pertain to a beneficial life and interaction with all.
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blackpuma2 Then you are a fool for thinking that the Lord doesn't matter. And I hope that your life screws up big-time until you come to your senses.
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Why are you cursing me and wishing ill on me?

I'm giving space for non believers to submit their ideas here as well.

Did I say God doesn't matter?

I think you might have been a little harsh with me.

Do you think that approach is justified?

I hope not!

Why not wish the best for me, and wish that I acknowledge God?

I don't know where I've said God doesn't matter, but I apologize if I did.

I was saying that those who don't believe in God or heaven can also submit what they feel are the qualities of a person they would consider excellent.

This thread is for consolidating entries on the list.
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And I hope that your life screws up big-time
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Which scriptural request is this?





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