The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13)

i was using the remote example to explain our time/distance allusion

the field (dimension) that forms and sustains all things thus within all things and all places
it it`self comprises of another dimension (charge)

our solar system is always travelling in a direction

to remote backwards the path to the event is the dimension that forms and sustains all things

it links where we are to where we were (distance)

at the place where we were within the local fields retain the memories (non material structures) of the event we are motivated to seek

because we have become believers that time is real when we look back we believe we are going back in time and are unaware we are going back in distance only

we believe the past events happened in the same location as we are now hence any look into our past must be time travel, we never connect our continual motion or it`s consequences

our time archetype makes us miss that reality

strange looking at that now because i realize that i was answering a particular "entities" question related to 3 trees and although i was aware at the time i was doing so it feels odd now i`m looking at it again

as in remained identity hidden but felt familiar

oh well

using the "entities" analogy, the life field is the field bohm and sheldrake are referring to also known as 0 point

that is always present

the knowledge field(s) are the local fields formed and sustained by the life field

accessing the local fields via the life field , using earth as example, shows how we translated our experience of the life field and it`s effects (local field) at different locations within the life field

Wisdom = subconsciousness

Knowledge = consciousness

Life = self

i like that

aether, I'll crack into your other posts later, but did you happen to catch this paper? It brought much clarity to me...

[link to www.newdualism.org]


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aether, I'll crack into your other posts later, but did you happen to catch this paper? It brought much clarity to me...

[link to www.newdualism.org]


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The forms remain until they fade due to exhaustion of the effects of the mental impulses that created them to begin with.

It's the bubbles around one's bubble, kind of like the magnetic bubbles around the heliopause...

how are they sustained?

they are sustained by tradition over thousands of years

There seems to be a correlation here between the 10 parts of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life and the 10 levels of Creation that the Mayans expressed.

:Mpyramid:


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Do you mean the dogmatic aspect of religions?


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Dogma is the established belief or doctrine held by a religion, or by extension by some other group or organization. It is authoritative and not to be disputed, doubted, or diverged from, by the practitioners or believers.

anyone fitting non local consciousness/ancestral memory into their paradigm or considering the paradigm they are within without choice

what is to be observed and scrutinized
the kind of questions that are supposed to be asked and probed for answers in relation to this subject
how these questions are to be structured
how the results of scientific investigations should be interpreted


The following are conditions that facilitate a system of thought to become an accepted dominant paradigm:

Professional organizations that give legitimacy to the paradigm
Dynamic leaders who introduce and purport the paradigm
Journals and editors who write about the system of thought. They both disseminate the information essential to the paradigm and give the paradigm legitimacy
Government agencies who give credence to the paradigm
Educators who propagate the paradigm’s ideas by teaching it to students
Conferences conducted that are devoted to discussing ideas central to the paradigm
Media coverage
Lay groups, or groups based around the concerns of lay persons, that embrace the beliefs central to the paradigm
Sources of funding to further research on the paradigm
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the questions:
why did the original god depart
how do we find the original god thus recover our godlike selves

aether, I'll crack into your other posts later, but did you happen to catch this paper? It brought much clarity to me...

[link to www.newdualism.org]


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In a practical sense, remove the effects cast by the 'lesser god' (from the old testament)


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the language our hebrew bible was written in dates from:

Archaic Biblical Hebrew is the oldest stratum of Biblical Hebrew, corresponding to the spoken language of roughly the 10th to 9th centuries BC

the language of that area, which christian and judiac scholars agree,the language of the bible is derived from dates to

The earliest attestations of a Semitic language are in Akkadian, dating to ca. the 23rd century BC and Eblaite, but earlier evidence of Akkadian comes from personal names in Sumerian texts. Researchers in Egypt also claim to have discovered Canaanite snake spells that "date from between 3000 and 2400 B.C

the events referred to in the bible must have occurred at least 1,500 to 2000 years before they were recorded by the hebrews

Genesis 11:1-9

1 Now the whole Earth used the same language and
the same words.
2 And it came about as they journeyed east, that
they found a plain in the land of Shinar and
settled there.
3 And they said to one another, "Come, let us make
bricks and burn them thoroughly." And they used
brick for stone, and they used tar for mortar.
4 And they said, "Come, let us build for ourselves
a city, and a tower whose top will reach into
heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest
we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole
earth."
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the
tower which the sons of men had built.
6 And the LORD said, "Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them."
7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their
language, that they may not understand one
another's speech."
8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there
over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped
building the city.
9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because
there the LORD confused the language of the whole
earth; and from there the LORD scattered them
abroad over the face of the whole earth

this is a humankind memory and interpretation of the end of our golden age and assumes we humans did something wrong to deserve what occurred



i imagine

Thus the Phoenicians of the eastern Mediterranean believed that they originated from the sacred paradise isle of Sumerian legend
Rohl, D (1998) Legend. The Genesis of Civilisation

Though Hamitic in origin, the Phoenicians spoke a Semitic language. In addition to their many inscriptions, the Phoenicians, contrary to some reports, wrote many books, which have not survived.

St. Augustine knew at least a smattering of Punic and occasionally uses it to explain cognate words found in Hebrew.

The Phoenicians are believed to have developed the first alphabetic script around 1500 bc; the Greek, Roman, Arabic, and Hebrew alphabets all derive from the Phoenician one.

Reminds me of the Tibetan Book of the Dead (Hearing in the Bardo)... Where significant deities (mind constructs) are accompanied by their 'consorts'. This is imagery mostly based on Tantric education, so the mental images are to be associated with what should already be known by the yogin.

Through knowledge and transcendence the departed recognizes these images as mere mental apparitions. Once the departed transcends, the tricks of the mind fade away.

The deity-consort image is one of a binary system. For the departed, the straying of ego leads to separation.

there must be as they share common archetypal thought

all beliefs today originate from points in our past before our current awareness, formed by time, can detect thus we will discover ever more similarities and form vivid conclusions from our discoveries

the context of the post was "secret societies" but all human institutions (non material structures) form from dogma

The forms remain until they fade due to exhaustion of the effects of the mental impulses that created them to begin with.

It's the bubbles around one's bubble, kind of like the magnetic bubbles around the heliopause...

Thanks so much for this.
A very interesting read.
Im so glad to now know the duality of my spiritual nature.
Do you have any material detailing what, if anything, we can do towards the reunification process?
Is this a moot point in light of upcoming events?
I cant send private messages but, following page one of this thread, Ive become quite interested in your ideas, sir!

That's sorta reminds me of the division between our conscious and subconscious minds. One is observing a predominantly ordered world while the other observes a predominantly chaotic one. And in between is a barrier that keeps both separated.


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"If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail." ~ Abraham Maslow

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]


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The Human Mind Builds with Lines, Nature Builds with Spirals


One aspect that both the subjective storytellers and the objective calculators have in common when displaying their concepts of Creation is this...
:tmln:

"Timelines are also used in the natural world and sciences for subjects such as astronomy, biology and geology."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Timelines are the tool we all use to relate to the dimension of time. A timeline can be used to display the 7 days and 6 nights of Creation as described in the book of Genesis. And it can be used to display scientific culture's explanation of our origins and the evolution of the universe. All of the great scientific minds have based their findings and theories on the assumption that time moves in a line forever and that's all their is to it. So therefor all of these 'theories' take on the characteristics and potential of progressing on a line. Randomness, chance, death, & taxes ~ it's all because we view time as a line. There are no patterns on a line. How could there be? It is simply a single dimensional geometric figure. The line is a product of the human mind, because humans think and build in classical geometric figures (squares, triangles, circles) and nature obviously doesn't operate under this type of geometry.

What has happened is that humans have forced their way of thinking over the true way nature 'thinks'. Linear time is a flat out LIE (pun intended) as far as how we as humans experience time. All of the contributions of those great scientific minds have essentially been stitched together to form theories of Creation and our origins, and their theories are based upon a perspective of time that is a LIE, because time is not a line and this is the very root of all the problems you see in the world around us. It's all because we are not seeing time as it truly is. The representation of time as a line is the epitome of a purposeless existence! And people the world over have based their beliefs on a LIE at the most fundamental level of understanding time.

So why is the linear perspective of time a LIE and what exactly is the TRUTH?

Here's a thought experiment that will demonstrate that the collective story of life on Earth has not occurred on a line...

:clssrmmbl:

These mobiles of the solar system are found in practically every elementary school classroom throughout the United States. Because we use to see this model everyday we were in school, we became subtly brainwashed to the idea that we move in circles around our Sun. But that just isn't true. Let's take a critical look at what the model fails to demonstrate...

1) >>>The actual scale and distances of the planets and Sun are not truthfully represented here. If they were, you would need a really big classroom to display these models in a practical sense, so we'll forgive them on this one.

2) >>>The planets don't orbit the Sun in perfect circles, they orbit in what are called ellipses.

3) >>>The model fails to demonstrate that the entire system itself is moving through the galaxy.

So we have the motion of the rotation of the Earth, the motion of the Earth orbiting around the Sun, and the motion of the solar system itself moving through the galaxy to consider.

Now let's interject consciousness into the experiment, that being the story of Creation. Whether you are for the religious or scientific explanation makes no difference.

Think of any event that has happened at any given point in time. If we somehow had the ability to reverse time and actually watch 'the story' go backwards to whatever event you have in mind, would this event really be referenced somewhere along a line?

We'll 'unfreeze' this picture of a moving mobile in your mind and run it backwards to that event your thinking of somewhere in history.

:plntrysprlmtn:

Because the solar system is moving through the galaxy, as the planets revolve around our Sun, the actual path of our home planet is a spiralling helix. And everyday as the Earth rotates an even smaller and finer spiraling helix is blazed through the fabric of space-time. So the actual trail of the collective story of our origins has not been on a line or a circle at all. Any event that has happened on this planet that you can think of would be referenced somewhere along our compounding spiraling helix of time. And if you were to look back at milestones in your own life, they too would have happened somewhere along this spiraling helix of time that we all share. The Earth may just be a big 'ole rock, but it is the collective consciousness on this planet that makes 'the story'. And that story is literally built along a spiraling helix. So ever since you were born your consciousness has been 'reading' the information which constructs 'the story' strung out along a spiraling helix.

Does that process sound familiar to you?


:dnrdng:


The self similarity between the way ribonucleic acid reads DNA and the way our consciousness reads 'the story' is an example of a fractal theme of self similarity. Both of these motions are dependent upon spin to achieve their helical structure. Time by definition is the animation of physical objects. And spin is the most common motion throughout the universe. The spin of celestial objects at different scales is what creates these compounding and spiraling helixes. Viewing the motion of time with this perspective, there does seem to be some bounded relationship between time and spin in the mind of Creation.




So what should you take out of this?




The Human Mind Builds with Lines...
:mndgmtry:




And Nature Builds with Spirals...
:frctlbrccl: :frctlfrn:


Once you're able to differentiate between the two, and see time for what it really is and how we really experience it, from beyond the human perspective of it, you are then well on your way to making Contact with the mind of Creation.


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So the transition between the understanding of the 'religious institutions' and those of the 'secret societies' would be an example of the fading of one 'form' and the emergence of a new 'form' for a given individuals consciousness (bubble)?




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Here is an indisputable fact. If you will trace the claimed history of ancient nations backwards, you will invariably reach a point at which humankind lived in the shadow of the gods. This distant epoch--what the Egyptians called the "time of the primeval gods"--cries out for clarification. Originally, the gods rule the world. First in an age of gold, but this age was followed by catastrophe and cosmic upheaval. That is the archetypal memory repeated around the world.

In their first appearance, the gods are celestial through and through. As the stories are told and re-told across the centuries, however, these celestial powers are progressively localized, re-entering the chronicles in increasingly human guise. All of the profound cosmic events expressed in the earliest myths are eventually brought down to earth. Through each culture’s intimate identification with its own gods across the centuries, the cosmic powers eventually emerged as legendary ancestors of the nation telling the story.

Each of the nations recalling the Golden Age, for example, insisted that their own forefathers had descended from the gods. At first glance, this pervasive claim will appear as sheer arrogance, a nationalistic pride carried to absurd extremes. But the origins of the idea have never been adequately appreciated. In truth, the worldwide racial claim, that "we are descended from the gods," or that "our race was originally divine," or that "we were the favored children of the gods" offers a key to the primitive experience. It confirms early man's unqualified sense of connection to the enigmatic celestial powers so vividly portrayed in the myths. And one cannot afford to ignore the equally significant principle, that these celestial powers are no longer present, no longer visible and active in the world.

the language our hebrew bible was written in dates from:

Archaic Biblical Hebrew is the oldest stratum of Biblical Hebrew, corresponding to the spoken language of roughly the 10th to 9th centuries BC

the language of that area, which christian and judiac scholars agree,the language of the bible is derived from dates to

The earliest attestations of a Semitic language are in Akkadian, dating to ca. the 23rd century BC and Eblaite, but earlier evidence of Akkadian comes from personal names in Sumerian texts. Researchers in Egypt also claim to have discovered Canaanite snake spells that "date from between 3000 and 2400 B.C

the events referred to in the bible must have occurred at least 1,500 to 2000 years before they were recorded by the hebrews

Genesis 11:1-9

1 Now the whole Earth used the same language and
the same words.
2 And it came about as they journeyed east, that
they found a plain in the land of Shinar and
settled there.
3 And they said to one another, "Come, let us make
bricks and burn them thoroughly." And they used
brick for stone, and they used tar for mortar.
4 And they said, "Come, let us build for ourselves
a city, and a tower whose top will reach into
heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest
we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole
earth."
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the
tower which the sons of men had built.
6 And the LORD said, "Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them."
7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their
language, that they may not understand one
another's speech."
8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there
over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped
building the city.
9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because
there the LORD confused the language of the whole
earth; and from there the LORD scattered them
abroad over the face of the whole earth

this is a humankind memory and interpretation of the end of our golden age and assumes we humans did something wrong to deserve what occurred



i imagine

JUST READ THE FIRST 2-3 posts. VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY interesting.!!! THANKS OP

the context i wrote was to indicate that although the names and attributes associated vary over thousands of years, the structure and function of the archetype(s) doens`t

Not sure if you're familiar with some of Michael Tsarion's work but he touches on the idea that 'the ego' so to speak was born out of a trauma that occured to the original human condition, some 10,000 to 50,000 years ago. And that lines up with your time frame. This disconnect from the divine soucre could ultimately be that trauma, along with all the evidence of a massive cataclysm during that period too.

This is that point in time we find emergence of 'authority over' (due to that assumption) and the intensification of our mental evolution.


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Not sure if you're familiar with some of Michael Tsarion's work but he touches on the idea that 'the ego' so to speak was born out of a trauma that occured to the original human condition, some 10,000 to 50,000 years ago. And that lines up with your time frame. This disconnect from the divine soucre could ultimately be that trauma, along with all the evidence of a massive cataclysm during that period too.


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Hi my friend Bowman! I have missed your intellect!

Here is a good Vid...for you and me and others! I wish you well!

hey , how are you, nice holiday break it feels



yes, feels like the same thing

this:

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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

aether, yeah it was a very good long weekend and I hope you enjoyed yours too. Yeah, I took a peek at the thread you linked very briefly and thought it was very interesting material. Will definitely have to take a closer look at it. I hope we get to see something like this in our lifetime. :)


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The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride?

An especially active episode – known among Russian researchers as the Sterno-Etrussia geomagnetic excursion – occurred between ±800 and ±600 BCE and lasted one or two centuries. During this time, the geomagnetic dipole inclined more than 10º towards the East, taking it to ±81.4º N, 45.1º E, just to the northeast of Spitsbergen.

As the Babylonian city of Nippur was located at the same longitude, the dipole magnetic latitude of Babylon at that time was 40.8º N, as compared to the present-day value of 27.0º. This suggests “a higher auroral incidence at Babylon in 567 BC than at present,” as some have noted. It would also have predisposed the area to a richer variety of auroral forms, including the occurrence of magnificent overhead aurorae – or coronae; for comparison, the overhead aurora of 14 May 1921 occurred at 40º magnetic latitude, and the one of 1 September 1859 – the famous "Carrington Event" – at 36º.

The hypothesis is confirmed in fact by Babylonian observations of a red glow at around ±600 BCE, as mentioned in a cluster of cuneiform texts. Similar records “were uncommon in the centuries preceding and following this date, consistent with this being the only time over the past few thousand years that the magnetic pole was in the longitude of Nippur (modern day Iraq).”

Indeed, as a handful of researchers have argued, the very outburst of auroral activity exhibited in the skies over the Middle East during this period was almost certainly recorded in ancient sources as a smattering of "visions," including the famous "vision of the chariot" reported by the Hebrew prophet, Ezekiel. The latter was essentially “a windstorm coming out of the North,” “an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light.”

Despite the presence of “lightning,” this was not an ordinary tempest: the luminous structure of wheels, animal-like creatures, “an expanse, sparkling like ice” and the crowning image of the enthroned deity all find close analogues in eyewitness reports of the polar aurora.

In the bigger picture, it can be shown that prophetic visions reducible to auroral apparitions – and perhaps accompanied by hallucinations, induced by ambient electromagnetic fields – have fuelled significant changes in prevailing cultural paradigms. It may not be coincidental that the Sterno-Etrussia geomagnetic excursion roughly corresponds to the so-called "axial age," which was typified by spiritual revolutions extending from Greece to China. Confucianism and Daoism in China, Buddhism and Jainism in India, Zoroastrianism in Persia, the reformative utterances of the Hebrew prophets and Greek philosophy all share a common origin in this epoch.

Although it is still premature to finger a geomagnetic cause for this age of reforms, the case of Ezekiel justifies the search for a correlation between geomagnetic upheaval and the inspirational visions had by many sages at this time – suggesting that the polar adventure of this era proved quite beneficial to denizens of the Old World. If the cultural history of mankind thus progresses in leaps and bounds, sometimes in tune with the dance of the magnetic poles, all are advised to allay "Doomsday" fears and to enjoy the ride.