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ELENIN SIZE ---------HUGE

 
Lit Clicker
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I believe Elenin is just a comet.

I believe there will be a big let down for the Elenintards and cosmic doom junkies when it goes quietly past.

Many will become disgusted and turn away from the space and sun doom ideas.

Then after several months the large dark object behind it that showed up on the IRAS, the actual brown dwarf star will be close enough that some of its debris and orbiting planets will make a surprise appearance.

It will go according to schedule.
It won't get discussed beforehand.
Lots of distractions to preoccupy.

Do you think they will allow any specific knowledge about a doomsday scenario see the light of day before it occurs?
With all the power over the media and the internet?
Think a little more deeply.
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Amen.
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I have been thinking that if Elenin is just an asteroid, and it is not revolving around or following some sort of powerful object like a brown dwarf or a netron star, then the only other logical explanation for tha large earthquakes we have been having on earth is from something happening with the sun. I read just tonight on one of the posts that there was a shmanic priest who lived in the Orient 2,000 years ago, that believed there was a connetion between sunspot activity and earthquakes.
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Sorry I meant a neutron star,
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I have been thinking that if Elenin is just an asteroid..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325230

No asteroid can move the earth off its axis, no matter how small a move it may be.

To date, there've been 3 major alignments of elenin/sun/earth:

One alignment in early 2010 caused the devestating earthquake in chile and caused earth to move off its axis. Another alignment several months later caused the devestating earthquake in New Zealnd (no change in axis). And the 3rd on March 11 caused the devestating Japan earthquake, and also caused the earth to move off its axis.

The odds for such an alignment occuring at the same time as these events is basically zero.

Try again???

Last Edited by upstateny on 06/16/2011 11:05 AM
You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in.
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Much of the speculation about Elenin and its likely consequence has been sadly misinformed -- indeed, complacent. Let me reiterate some basic facts here.

Fact: Elenin is *not* a comet.

The astronomers think that Elenin might once have been a moon of Neptune or Uranus, or perhaps it was locked in a stable point in Neptune's orbit, and was then perturbed somehow. But perturbed it was, and now it is on a thirty-six-hundred-year collision course with Earth.

Fact: Elenin's impact will *not* be comparable to the Chicxulub impact which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.

That impact was sufficient to cause mass death, and to alter -- drastically, and for all time -- the course of evolution of life on Earth. But it was caused by an impactor some ten kilometers across. Elenin is *forty* times as large, and its mass is therefore some *sixty thousand times* as great.

Fact: Elenin will *not* simply cause a mass extinction event, like Chicxulub.

It will be much worse than that.

The heat pulse will sterilize the land to a depth of fifty meters. Life might survive, but only by being buried deep in caves. We know no way, even in principle, by which a human community could ride out the impact. When Elenin arrives, everybody will die.

Fact: Elenin *cannot* be deflected with current technology.

It is possible we could turn aside small bodies -- a few kilometers across, typical of the population of near-Earth asteroids -- with such means as emplaced nuclear charges or thermonuclear rockets. The challenge of deflecting Elenin is many orders of magnitude greater. Thought experiments on moving such bodes have been proposed, for example, using a series of gravitational assists -- not available in this case -- or using advanced technology such as nanotech von Neumann machines to dismantle and disperse the body. But such technologies are far beyond our current capabilities.
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i made some counts

d=diameter of object
L=distance earth-object
ç= angular diameter in degrees

d=2L(tan (ç/2))
 Quoting: rb26det

Hi there OP .. just wondering what your background is in - Physics? Math?

I majored in college physics (a loonnng time ago), and wouldn't have been able to calculate the size based upon your formula. Heck, I never even saw that formula before!
 Quoting: upstateny


he didnt do the calculations himself. i also used these calculatoins in a thread. i pulled them off some random site, if i can find the link i will linkity link link it.
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It's called The Coma....look into it.

Anyhow, just found this on Elenin's site.

“Jul 31 – Aug 12 Behind: Spacecraft rolls to observe comet Elenin”

spaceobs.org/en/2011/07/11/behind-spacecraft-rolls-to-observe​-comet-elenin/

Try and take it easy...can't believe this thread has almost 50 pages over this nonsense.
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I can give you an example

I know thats not the same thing because the object is much smaller and far but...nocomment
sun - earth distance is about 150 000 000 km
angular diameter = 0,53
sun diametre = X
X =150000000(tan 0,53)
X=1387576 km in fact the sun diameter is 1392000 km
1dunno1
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bump
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Well, GLP knew that already...so there must be something between this "low mass" object called Elenin. If it is such a low mass, how could it have such an effect on Earth (EQ's) when it is in alignment??

Interesting find...
 Quoting: DDan


probably elenin isnt " a small object"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338855


Exactly...so, are you any closer to being able to determine the actual size??

If not, when will you? Also, how big does an object have to be to cause these kind of effects on Earth??

Can't wait for the size (and actual trajectory) to be known...
 Quoting: DDan


Watch this video if you want to know about its size.

[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: Ozicell
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I believe Elenin is just a comet.

I believe there will be a big let down for the Elenintards and cosmic doom junkies when it goes quietly past.

Many will become disgusted and turn away from the space and sun doom ideas.

Then after several months the large dark object behind it that showed up on the IRAS, the actual brown dwarf star will be close enough that some of its debris and orbiting planets will make a surprise appearance.

It will go according to schedule.
It won't get discussed beforehand.
Lots of distractions to preoccupy.

Do you think they will allow any specific knowledge about a doomsday scenario see the light of day before it occurs?
With all the power over the media and the internet?
Think a little more deeply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428695
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Fact: Elenin is *not* a comet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

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The astronomers think that Elenin might once have been a moon of Neptune or Uranus, or perhaps it was locked in a stable point in Neptune's orbit, and was then perturbed somehow. But perturbed it was, and now it is on a thirty-six-hundred-year collision course with Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

bsflag
it was caused by an impactor some ten kilometers across. Elenin is *forty* times as large, and its mass is therefore some *sixty thousand times* as great.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

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You can put 7 earths in to this star, then think about. Your being lied to by NASA and the Government, why do you think there going under ground, if the earth slips by it wont be without debree and massive debree so it will be neat too see for those who are prepared to except what could the effects could be, no one has ever seen this in 26000 years, we are the first in 26000 yrsto see this,this may seem like the end of the world when it comes because of the affects and the sight, many will possibly comment suiside many will die from the sight and effects. The government has pushed forward a mass project to cover this up in media and in plain sight also by covering up your vision of the skys with chemtrails as well as other motives so don't be nieve please many will not make it the question who will and who won't. Malkuth.
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Something really nasty is coming, all one needs to do is look around. The posture of various governments and their actions is telling, infrastructure rotting to hell, banking whores, deficits out the ying yang, kind of like over cooked toast, they are waiting, but it is becoming like rats in a sack.

End of space program
Dumbs
No repairs to infrastructure
Moscow vast underground tunnel / bunker system
Empty concentration camps in US
Plastic coffins all over the place
Wacky weather / tornadoes
Ocean too hot for this time of year
Jet stream weirdness
Earthquakes
Volcanoes
No info on incoming objects allowed anymore
And the wacky Elenin story, that being the Ele
WW 3 has not begun because govs. know they have bigger prob
Financial chaos
Estabileshment of Northcom, why?
Giant complex built in cradle of civilization
Denver airport and DC's movement to there
Navy maps of future US shoreline
Numerous end of the world movies
Mayan Calendar
Rockies and other mountains may haveformed in a period of hours, if not minutes.
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bump
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It's gonna hit earth Unless this thing is piloted, is gonna pass by us okay, the thing is the alignment between Sun-Elenin-earth is gonna be something of great magnitude, on top of that is close enough to force Pole-shifting on earth which has already begun, go look earthquakes volcanoes and weird climates on seasons, also the sea is weird, whole shebang is messing with earth electromagnetic field, and I encourage u to do the math rather then just read this, go look for urselvshiding
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To 8695. So if you believe Elenin is just an asteroid, do you think it is in the orbit of this brown dwarf star; or in some way being sucked along with it?
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It is part of its system . Its being pushed along with its cluster. We have about 4 to 5 months before real trouble comes along. there are hundreds but john moore is my favorite for actual truth
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my calc. was wrong ! this type of calculation cant be applied to 2 body in very fast moving like earth and elenin !
sorry
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ok, so elenin is the size of a grain of salt in comparison to the earth, woopty doo.
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All lies! Comet Elenin is just a puny, icy comet and that is all. There is NOTHING behind that comet either. NOTHING will happen this fall due to a little comet going by. NOTHING!
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"Uma das coisas mais difíceis na vida é assistir a pessoa que você ama, amar outra pessoa."
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All lies! Comet Elenin is just a puny, icy comet and that is all. There is NOTHING behind that comet either. NOTHING will happen this fall due to a little comet going by. NOTHING!
 Quoting: Not a Coward 588885


WRONG .......there is a dwarf star about 8 AU behind the comet Elenin [link to www.scribd.com]
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Shaul Mofaz (Antichrist) in the September 2011 Israeli Prime Minister After the earthquake in

northern Israel(maybe:26-28 September ) - and the dry lake Kynrt He is government end of ۱۱/ 2012

And by the Imam Mahdi or Jesus will be killed

On September 28 Saudi Arabia king will be killed - November 6 is the hidden of his death after

starts War powers

On October 20-28, 2011 comet Elenin(C/2010 X1) near Earth He a stone hit in East Asia And reverse rotation of the

earth the sun will come out from the West(21 oct)

America the great volcano in October-november2011(maybe:28october)

- will begin its activities - eight days out of the ashes

Syria: Soldiers the United Nations They sent to Syria in August/ earthquake in northern Israel

and Syria And its effect on the dry lake Kynrt /In October Jordan to take possession of syria/and

after Exit Western from Iraq/ Iraq by the Jordan in Januaryto take possession of/Fighting with

Turkey in December2011/And in February 2012 in the desert between Mecca and Medina

Jordanian Soldiers into the ground will beswallowed (volcano

Jesus in the the

autumn

of 2012 - comes to earth from the sky - to help Imam Mahdi

theadministration of justice in the earth
[link to emam-mahdi-1431.blogfa.com]
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I have been thinking that if Elenin is just an asteroid..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325230

No asteroid can move the earth off its axis, no matter how small a move it may be.

To date, there've been 3 major alignments of elenin/sun/earth:

One alignment in early 2010 caused the devestating earthquake in chile and caused earth to move off its axis. Another alignment several months later caused the devestating earthquake in New Zealnd (no change in axis). And the 3rd on March 11 caused the devestating Japan earthquake, and also caused the earth to move off its axis.

The odds for such an alignment occuring at the same time as these events is basically zero.

Try again???
 Quoting: upstateny
Funny thing is though , It's NASA thats shows the alignment on those said dates. So argue with that for a while !!
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HEY GUYS SOME SCIENCE FOR YOU ...
SINCE NO ONE WILL TELL YOU WHAT GOING ON WITH C 2010 /X1 ELENIN see comet Comet LINEAR (C/1999 S4)breakup in July Aug 2000


HUBBLE JULY 4-7 NUCLEUS BEGINS NON TIDAL BREAK UP!
[link to hubblesite.org]

HUGE X RAY EMISSION SURVEYED 14-15 JULY

Using soft x-ray observations of the bright new comet C/1999 S4 (LINEAR) with the Chandra x-ray observatory, we have detected x-ray line emission created by charge exchange between highly ionized solar wind minor ions and neutral gases in the comet's coma. The emission morphology was symmetrically crescent shaped and extended out to 300,000 kilometers from the nucleus. The emission spectrum contains 6 lines at 320, 400, 490, 560, 600, and 670 electron volts, attributable to electron capture and radiative deexcitation by the solar wind species C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. A contemporaneous 7-day soft x-ray light curve obtained using the Extreme Ultraviolet Explorer demonstrates a large increase in the comet's emission coincident with a strong solar flare on 14 and 15 July 2000.

DISINTEGRATION COMPLETE 18-19 JULY

[link to www.sciencemag.org]

We analyzed photometric measurements and images of comet C/LINEAR before perihelion and after its breakup. Results from our photometry data include a lower limit of 0.44 kilometer for the radius of the nucleus before breakup, and a determination that it was depleted in carbon-chain molecules relative to most other comets. Our imaging and modeling results, which include a constraint on the rotational state of the nucleus, indicate that the disintegration likely started on 18 or 19 July 2000. The total mass detectable in the dust tail after the breakup was 3 × 108 kilograms, comparable to one of the fragments in the Hubble Space Telescope images; we therefore infer that most of the comet's original mass is hidden in remnants between 1 millimeter and 50 meters in diameter.

[link to www.sciencemag.org]




AUG 5 SHOWS BREAKUP FROM HUBBLE [=30 DAYS OF DISPERSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

[link to hubblesite.org]


MORE TO COME
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HEY GUYS SOME SCIENCE FOR YOU ...
SINCE NO ONE WILL TELL YOU WHAT GOING ON WITH C 2010 /X1 ELENIN see comet Comet LINEAR (C/1999 S4)breakup in July Aug 2000


HUBBLE JULY 4-7 NUCLEUS BEGINS NON TIDAL BREAK UP!
[link to hubblesite.org]

HUGE X RAY EMISSION SURVEYED 14-15 JULY

Using soft x-ray observations of the bright new comet C/1999 S4 (LINEAR) with the Chandra x-ray observatory, we have detected x-ray line emission created by charge exchange between highly ionized solar wind minor ions and neutral gases in the comet's coma. The emission morphology was symmetrically crescent shaped and extended out to 300,000 kilometers from the nucleus. The emission spectrum contains 6 lines at 320, 400, 490, 560, 600, and 670 electron volts, attributable to electron capture and radiative deexcitation by the solar wind species C+5, C+6, N+7, O+7, and O+8. A contemporaneous 7-day soft x-ray light curve obtained using the Extreme Ultraviolet Explorer demonstrates a large increase in the comet's emission coincident with a strong solar flare on 14 and 15 July 2000.

DISINTEGRATION COMPLETE 18-19 JULY

[link to www.sciencemag.org]

We analyzed photometric measurements and images of comet C/LINEAR before perihelion and after its breakup. Results from our photometry data include a lower limit of 0.44 kilometer for the radius of the nucleus before breakup, and a determination that it was depleted in carbon-chain molecules relative to most other comets. Our imaging and modeling results, which include a constraint on the rotational state of the nucleus, indicate that the disintegration likely started on 18 or 19 July 2000. The total mass detectable in the dust tail after the breakup was 3 × 108 kilograms, comparable to one of the fragments in the Hubble Space Telescope images; we therefore infer that most of the comet's original mass is hidden in remnants between 1 millimeter and 50 meters in diameter.

[link to www.sciencemag.org]




AUG 5 SHOWS BREAKUP FROM HUBBLE [=30 DAYS OF DISPERSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

[link to hubblesite.org]


MORE TO COME
 Quoting: rphunter


Question - If Elenin is breaking up, how does that affect its trajectory? Does this increase the possibility that some fragments may hit Earth? Just a thought.
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ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY RIGHT NOW
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ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY RIGHT NOW
 Quoting: rphunter


Let's just say it's possible - taking the electric universe model into account - we are not just talking about a meteor shower here!
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Duck off u useless retardhavent u geared it has blown itself up these past few days
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Duck off u useless retardhavent u geared it has blown itself up these past few days
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One too many WARM beers mate?
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I've only heard NASA americans say it has broken up, with no proof. Not the most trustworthy source. Same morons saying it was a "wimpy comet". That could be seen at a great distance in space with an 18 telescope.

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