FCC: LIVE CONFERENCE STREAM Japanese/English on current state of reactors: Fukushima #2 fuel rods are exposed - Emergency declared by TEPCO

O, o - a scandal

"...not sure that the team in charge of the containment right now are the best experts for the job"

That is the most severe insult you can give a Japanese, worthy of Seppuku. HAI!

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I don't know if this has been posted before but to make things even worse: Meteorologists predicted that the wind will turn tomorrow and will blow out of northernly directions. This means the radiation will - over a period of 2-3 days at least - be blown directly into the direction of Tokyo.

PEOPLE OF TOKYO: GET THE FUCK OUT!

Thank you very much for doing this....

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I don't know if this has been posted before but to make things even worse: Meteorologists predicted that the wind will turn tomorrow and will blow out of northernly directions. This means the radiation will - over a period of 2-3 days at least - be blown directly into the direction of Tokyo.

PEOPLE OF TOKYO: GET THE FUCK OUT!

13.45 on Pressure buiding in REACTOR, if they cant release enough pressure it could explode. Also at the begining confirmation of "Spent Rods" in cooling / Containment pools in roof area, which is now not there.

That was an honest statement. What I can not understand is why the Japanese allowed their emergency generators to be located in a place where a Tsunami could knock them all off line. From an engineering standpoint that was unbelievably stupid.

To keep the plants safe all they needed was one generator. ONE, and they had none.

They should have had backup generators located at higher elevation or they should have had a portable generator that could have been flown in and hooked up to the plant coolant pump.

I just can not believe that Japanese engineers were that stupid.

Where would they go? How far? How much time?

Easier said than done.

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Can somebody please explain to me how on one hand they can say that the fuel rods are/were exposed to open air, and then also say that......

"Japan's government has sought to play down fears of a dangerous radiation leak, saying the No. 3 reactor's inner containment vessel, which holds the nuclear fuel rods, was still intact following the blast, which was caused by a hydrogen build up. "

It doesn't make sense to me...

Link for this article


[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Agreed. The reporter I belive on CNN last night said leaving metro areas such as Tokyo.
I guess the idea would be to locate upwind from the radiation source, wherever that is.

Where would they go? How far? How much time?

Easier said than done.

It doesn't make sense because you have exposed the lie by Japanese government.

That would almost be like chickens running from a fox that is chasing them.

:picardface:

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Could not agree more.
BTW, notice how the U.S. media were lying right along with the japanese government from the beginning?
Now they are feeding the sheep in America the truth little by little about how bad this really is.

[34:00] So there are 2 situations, one is the reactor core, that one is SEVERE (kibishi) and then the state of the containment is SEVERE (kibishi).

[35:00] Normally steam is released inside the containment vessel. But in this instance, the tsunami damaged the cooling system (which uses seawater). As a result, what was probably used in the two suppression pools (at the base of the design) were used as a kind of cooling system. In other words, what happened was that within the vessel, you saw a rise in pressure. In other words we had a problem in the containment vessel BEFORE we had a problem within the reactor core itself. [correction] My point is that normally the containment vessel is to be the primary line of defense, but that containment vessel was FIRST damaged, and that makes all other planning more difficult. Conclusion of technical comments. To more formally introduce myself: I did work previously as a designer for nuclear power Toshiba for a couple years. I recieved a PhD my sepcialty was the containment of vessels for nuclear power plants.

[MODERATOR NOW SPEAKS] Reactor #3 has damaged pumps, rods are fused. This is the latest news. [40:00]

[Q1 long...] translator: In regard to the explosions which have happened, some people are saying they have been exposed to over 1million milliseiverts which requires decontam. However when we watch TV we have [SHILLS] who dismiss this level saying it's equal to xray levels. [question continues] but I understand xray exposure is only for a moment, yet this continues. Isn't this time for a special policy or approach to be taken?

[A:] I am not an expert in regards to radiation exposure. But as you have pointed out there is a fundamental difference between exposure for a moment, versus having particles cling to your clothing and to be exposed over time. It is not the momentary levels but levels-over-time that are very crucial. Therefore any comments that compare these levels to xrays should be made with great caution. Example: If you have xray three times, unless there is a special reason, there is no one who would have the same part of their body exposed to xrays 3x per year. Every time you expose yourself to xrays you increase the levels. Nobody undergoes xrays for fun, they assume the risk due to the needs of an injury. All radiation has an incremental effect. [48:00] [HE IS SAYING THESE COMMENTS ARE BULLSHIT, IN HONORABLE JAPANESE LANGUAGE]

[Q2:] Do I understand you correctly that the tsunami first crippled the cooling system? And second, why does this plant not have a hydrogen recombiner?

[A:] [50:00] Yes, the cooling system using seawater was damaged by tsunami, at the same time, electricity supplies were disrupted. Each situation is somewhat different. As to the second question, this is a BWR so it doesn't use a hydrogen recombiner. [52:00] Further: My understanding of the situation was perhaps more optimistic than reality. There was an announcement that in the #2 reactor unit, although attempts were made to cool the rods, it is suspected that the fuel rods are completely above the water. They are trying but they do not seem to be able to stop the falling water levels. They seems to be running out of fuel to run the pumps. I am not sure what this means as to fuel, perhaps diesel fuel is needed? [He has no more on that]

[Q3:] Have you designed any of these vessels, and also what is the mag of pressure directed on the outside that it is expected to take on the outside? [he seems to be asking what level of EQ mags the outside was designed to withstand]

[A:] [56:00] I was not a consultant but was on the team for these vessels. But I was also involved in research, and my sepc. was the strengths of these containers to withstand pressures. As you have suggested from your question, these vessels are made of steel they are susceptible to low-pressure damage from the outside. It is a little pressure from the outside that could hurt the vessel. In other words when there is a problem with the coolant we have to make sure there is not negative pressure inside the containment vessel. [A VACUUM] There is a valve in this vessel which might be called "vacuum rupture or breakage valve" in other words this valve prevents this kind of breakage situation.

[Q4:] From moderator: We have heard the rods are exposed, what does this means?

[A:] [59:00] It depends on the time factor, but if this continues, then situation will be SEVERE [kibishi] ..Accordingly according to TEPCO they say they cannot deny the possibility that the core has melted but they are pumping in seawater. [SOUNDS F'N GRIM HERE]

The Navy says it moved several U.S. ships away from a troubled Japanese nuclear plant after detecting low-level radiation on 17 helicopter crew members positioned there for relief efforts.

"The #3 vessel is still intact" - Russia Today as of five minutes ago