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I'm not a religitard....but.... hmmmm

 
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Suffered? Please. One woman lost two sons in the Oklahoma City bombing. I'll never forget how her sacrifice was SO MUCH greater than god's or jesus'. I guess I just don't get this big sacrifice...After all, aren't those two guaranteed to be together 4-ever?

Personally, I never was much impressed with the so-called sacrifice. My teenage daughter has suffered far more in her short time. So have most people.
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hi

When I was a kid and being whipped and raped, lying in a pool of my own and others' blood, I used to wish I could die. And I remember once feeling abject horror because the thought actually crossed my mind that, "At least Jesus got to die after only a few hours of being whipped."

For a long time, it was my secret shame to have even had the thought. Can you imagine the guilt I carried for my irreverent thought?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


That explains a lot Sandi.. Sorry you had to go through that. I also began questioning god through such things..

I feel bad you still carry it so strongly though. :(

But someone has to be the voice of such things.. I don't have the fortitude for that..

I decided life is too short, I try and do and be the things that make me happy, proud, and fullfilled at least to the point I understand.

maybe there is more, maybe not.. I just try and do "what feels right" For me..

hugs for your childhood pains though.
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BIG HUGS HERE TOO!hugs
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It's all there. Some people will eventually begin to understand.

This is NOTHING to what the earth will soon see.

This is for all the scoffers who say things like "screw your God" God is not mocked.
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Wrong, God has nothing to do with it, and it disgraces His name to put evil on Him. This is all man.
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its all annunaki, the creators of all religions.
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"Explain" this sickening practice of sex slavery:

Exodus 21:

7And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

8If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

9And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.

10If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

11And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.


IF he has sex with her and isn't pleased and doesn't force her to marry his son, he can just let her go after the 7 years... but if he enjoys raping her, he can marry her and keep her and she has no choice because she was his slave.

But of course, women never did have a choice in who they married in that culture, did they. Nope.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Wow....I think you are pretty messed up. Maybe you should quit asking the people here these questions and get into some serious prayer to find out yourself. You really sound like you have awful hate in your heart.
 Quoting: breakfree


I am "messed up" because of what the BIBLE SAYS??

lmao

If you don't like the FACT that the bible condones sex slavery, don't blame that on me. It says what it says. Just because it is clearly MESSED UP doesn't make it my fault.

wtf is WRONG with you?!
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Suffered? Please. One woman lost two sons in the Oklahoma City bombing. I'll never forget how her sacrifice was SO MUCH greater than god's or jesus'. I guess I just don't get this big sacrifice...After all, aren't those two guaranteed to be together 4-ever?

Personally, I never was much impressed with the so-called sacrifice. My teenage daughter has suffered far more in her short time. So have most people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardess 1283615


hi

When I was a kid and being whipped and raped, lying in a pool of my own and others' blood, I used to wish I could die. And I remember once feeling abject horror because the thought actually crossed my mind that, "At least Jesus got to die after only a few hours of being whipped."

For a long time, it was my secret shame to have even had the thought. Can you imagine the guilt I carried for my irreverent thought?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


That explains a lot Sandi.. Sorry you had to go through that. I also began questioning god through such things..

I feel bad you still carry it so strongly though. :(

But someone has to be the voice of such things.. I don't have the fortitude for that..

I decided life is too short, I try and do and be the things that make me happy, proud, and fullfilled at least to the point I understand.

maybe there is more, maybe not.. I just try and do "what feels right" For me..

hugs for your childhood pains though.
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Thanks, but I think you misunderstood my point there.

Regardless, I appreciate the sincerity in what you said, and the obvious compassion it flowed from. For that, I thank you.
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Suffered? Please. One woman lost two sons in the Oklahoma City bombing. I'll never forget how her sacrifice was SO MUCH greater than god's or jesus'. I guess I just don't get this big sacrifice...After all, aren't those two guaranteed to be together 4-ever?

Personally, I never was much impressed with the so-called sacrifice. My teenage daughter has suffered far more in her short time. So have most people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardess 1283615


hi

When I was a kid and being whipped and raped, lying in a pool of my own and others' blood, I used to wish I could die. And I remember once feeling abject horror because the thought actually crossed my mind that, "At least Jesus got to die after only a few hours of being whipped."

For a long time, it was my secret shame to have even had the thought. Can you imagine the guilt I carried for my irreverent thought?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I hear you.

My daughter...gang-raped at age 15 by five lousy pieces of shit taking turns forcing her and a friend to sodomize them. I was also raped at 15 by a single lousy piece of shit who attempted to hang me from a tree, gagged with my own bra.

I'd say women got Jeebus beat by a mile.

I am just not impressed with this so-called sacrifice.

More power to us, I say. Men haven't got the slightest fucking clue.
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No you're an atheistard... a cavemantard... a dinochickentard.
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lol


I wouldn't say I am an atheist either.. caveman tard?? LOL... That's a new one..

Maybe I'm a Deist.. I really don't define myself.

How can you be an atheist, and be mad at god?? lol


(I'm still sort of catching up. Much of the arguments here though are beyond me. I have never really enjoyed arguing about religion, so I tend to block it out.)
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Suffered? Please. One woman lost two sons in the Oklahoma City bombing. I'll never forget how her sacrifice was SO MUCH greater than god's or jesus'. I guess I just don't get this big sacrifice...After all, aren't those two guaranteed to be together 4-ever?

Personally, I never was much impressed with the so-called sacrifice. My teenage daughter has suffered far more in her short time. So have most people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardess 1283615


hi

When I was a kid and being whipped and raped, lying in a pool of my own and others' blood, I used to wish I could die. And I remember once feeling abject horror because the thought actually crossed my mind that, "At least Jesus got to die after only a few hours of being whipped."

For a long time, it was my secret shame to have even had the thought. Can you imagine the guilt I carried for my irreverent thought?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I hear you.

My daughter...gang-raped at age 15 by five lousy pieces of shit taking turns forcing her and a friend to sodomize them. I was also raped at 15 by a single lousy piece of shit who attempted to hang me from a tree, gagged with my own bra.

I'd say women got Jeebus beat by a mile.

I am just not impressed with this so-called sacrifice.

More power to us, I say. Men haven't got the slightest fucking clue.
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hugs

hf
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I hear you.

My daughter...gang-raped at age 15 by five lousy pieces of shit taking turns forcing her and a friend to sodomize them. I was also raped at 15 by a single lousy piece of shit who attempted to hang me from a tree, gagged with my own bra.

I'd say women got Jeebus beat by a mile.

I am just not impressed with this so-called sacrifice.

More power to us, I say. Men haven't got the slightest fucking clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283615


I'm so sorry. I know that it happening to us is hard enough, but to happen to your daughter must be in its own way even harder.

Those of us who have actually suffered know to take these things seriously. They ARE serious matters.

I am at a loss to express how deeply sorry I am for both what you and your daughter went through, Lady. My heart is overcome with sorrow for your suffering, and the memories I know you carry from both events.

I wish I could just cradle you both until the tears are done and the healing is finished.

huggle

sorries
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Suffered? Please. One woman lost two sons in the Oklahoma City bombing. I'll never forget how her sacrifice was SO MUCH greater than god's or jesus'. I guess I just don't get this big sacrifice...After all, aren't those two guaranteed to be together 4-ever?

Personally, I never was much impressed with the so-called sacrifice. My teenage daughter has suffered far more in her short time. So have most people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardess 1283615


hi

When I was a kid and being whipped and raped, lying in a pool of my own and others' blood, I used to wish I could die. And I remember once feeling abject horror because the thought actually crossed my mind that, "At least Jesus got to die after only a few hours of being whipped."

For a long time, it was my secret shame to have even had the thought. Can you imagine the guilt I carried for my irreverent thought?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I hear you.

My daughter...gang-raped at age 15 by five lousy pieces of shit taking turns forcing her and a friend to sodomize them. I was also raped at 15 by a single lousy piece of shit who attempted to hang me from a tree, gagged with my own bra.

I'd say women got Jeebus beat by a mile.

I am just not impressed with this so-called sacrifice.

More power to us, I say. Men haven't got the slightest fucking clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283615


Firstly I am sorry to hear of your experiences . Secondly , Jesus was God incarnate , think about that for a moment , the Almighty Creator humbled Himself hugely by all the things He suffered and sacrificed Himself so we could be redeemed . He did not need to do that . But He did . Just for us . That is the difference . A huge difference between Creator and Creature . hf
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It's all there. Some people will eventually begin to understand.

This is NOTHING to what the earth will soon see.

This is for all the scoffers who say things like "screw your God" God is not mocked.
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Screw your god.
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bonghit

*passes it to god*

God likes the skunkie. You mock him by making him out to be some kind of party pooper.
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I lol'd

bonghit

joins ya..
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Suffered? Please. One woman lost two sons in the Oklahoma City bombing. I'll never forget how her sacrifice was SO MUCH greater than god's or jesus'. I guess I just don't get this big sacrifice...After all, aren't those two guaranteed to be together 4-ever?

Personally, I never was much impressed with the so-called sacrifice. My teenage daughter has suffered far more in her short time. So have most people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardess 1283615


hi

When I was a kid and being whipped and raped, lying in a pool of my own and others' blood, I used to wish I could die. And I remember once feeling abject horror because the thought actually crossed my mind that, "At least Jesus got to die after only a few hours of being whipped."

For a long time, it was my secret shame to have even had the thought. Can you imagine the guilt I carried for my irreverent thought?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I hear you.

My daughter...gang-raped at age 15 by five lousy pieces of shit taking turns forcing her and a friend to sodomize them. I was also raped at 15 by a single lousy piece of shit who attempted to hang me from a tree, gagged with my own bra.

I'd say women got Jeebus beat by a mile.

I am just not impressed with this so-called sacrifice.

More power to us, I say. Men haven't got the slightest fucking clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283615


Firstly I am sorry to hear of your experiences . Secondly , Jesus was God incarnate , think about that for a moment , the Almighty Creator humbled Himself hugely by all the things He suffered and sacrificed Himself so we could be redeemed . He did not need to do that . But He did . Just for us . That is the difference . A huge difference between Creator and Creature . hf
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"Suffered and sacrificed". He is IMMORTAL and cannot be killed. How did He sacrifice??? Humans, on the other hand, do die and get tortured and actually DO sacrifice themselves for others. How is what happened to Jesus so different from how many on this planet die? Pain wise, there have been far greater sacrifices!!! Please explain how this "sacrifice" redeemed us? It's completely insane. Did "God" require the sacrifice to forgive our sins, so you're saying he killed himself as a sacrifice to himself in order to forgive our sins?? WTF?? That is insane! Also, not much of a sacrifice if He's immortal. He didn't really "give his only son". I mean, according to Christianity, isn't Jesus and God one in the same??? Is Jesus gone? Where is Jesus if he was "sacrificed"?? And this sacrifice pales in comparison to the stories these ladies tell....
It's all such a load of crap.
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Suffered? Please. One woman lost two sons in the Oklahoma City bombing. I'll never forget how her sacrifice was SO MUCH greater than god's or jesus'. I guess I just don't get this big sacrifice...After all, aren't those two guaranteed to be together 4-ever?

Personally, I never was much impressed with the so-called sacrifice. My teenage daughter has suffered far more in her short time. So have most people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowardess 1283615


hi

When I was a kid and being whipped and raped, lying in a pool of my own and others' blood, I used to wish I could die. And I remember once feeling abject horror because the thought actually crossed my mind that, "At least Jesus got to die after only a few hours of being whipped."

For a long time, it was my secret shame to have even had the thought. Can you imagine the guilt I carried for my irreverent thought?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I hear you.

My daughter...gang-raped at age 15 by five lousy pieces of shit taking turns forcing her and a friend to sodomize them. I was also raped at 15 by a single lousy piece of shit who attempted to hang me from a tree, gagged with my own bra.

I'd say women got Jeebus beat by a mile.

I am just not impressed with this so-called sacrifice.

More power to us, I say. Men haven't got the slightest fucking clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283615


Firstly I am sorry to hear of your experiences . Secondly , Jesus was God incarnate , think about that for a moment , the Almighty Creator humbled Himself hugely by all the things He suffered and sacrificed Himself so we could be redeemed . He did not need to do that . But He did . Just for us . That is the difference . A huge difference between Creator and Creature . hf
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Jesus is the Sun and he's coming back to kill us all.... finally, what took you so long bro?
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I don't know.. I read the bible when I was younger. (See this is one of those things he'll have stern words for me about) He seems like a jealous vindictive god..

I imagined a whiny brat with a big doll house...
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See but the mistake you're making is, that because the Bible God is so cruel, that God simply can't exist yes? Not the case. There is a God, but He's entirely different and far more loving than the Bible portrays
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So the God that you describe, allows his creatures to make up all their own rules? He loves them so much that he does not hold them accountable for their murderous and heinous acts against each other? What kind of "loving" "god" is that?

Would a "loving" God still love Hitler, and allow him a place in heaven, right next to the kindest person you've eve met?
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Yes because God does not judge, that is all on man.

A loving God knows we make mistakes, He understands it, and accepts it. The God you believe expects perfection and of course it is impossible to attain.

And really, any accountability for what we do already happens down here, it's built in. No need to add to it.

God loved us so much he wanted us to be free to make whatever choices we wanted, good or bad for ourselves. How can one freely choose anything if they are effectively spiritually raped into it.

"Love me, or die!"

Is that loving? Really?
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Do you actually believe that YOU deserve love, if you do NOT love the very One who created you??

Seriously?

Like Jesus said... If you love others more than Him, the very One who CREATED you, then you are most certainly not WORTHY of Him. And since it is God who created the universe, and everything in it, it is God who calls the shots.

Your "god" is the devil himself. The very core of Satanism, is "Do as thou wilt!". It is SATAN who inspires people to teach what you are teaching, that there will "be no judgment". You are walking on very very dangerous ground, my friend.

I wonder... Will you still feel that the REAL God is ALL loving, and incapable of justice or wrath, as more and more judgments fall against the earth? Will you fell as if you are in good standing with your "god", as things you never even dreamed were possible start to happen around the world?

Your PURELY loving God is going to embrace you (an unrepentant sinner) with open arms, after the world is completely destroyed and uninhabitable, and then he's going to ask you... "So, how did you like my demonstration of PURE love, with no wrath, or consequences for sin?"

How are you going to answer to that??

"Thank you God! I loved it!!"

?????





U make NO sense.
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Whats funny OP is you thought this thread would go nowhere, now look at it.
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For us finites to not understand that infinite mind never began, CANNOT CHANGE, and will not end opens the mind to assume God is a big human. There is no emotion with the Source. There is no revenge. There is no pleasing. Sorry to inform all that God is beyond finite attributes. Religions ASSIGN finite attributes to Infinite as the crucial connection to their foundation of justification for the rules and regulations contained within that religion. Control over people is accomplished.
 Quoting: tkwasny


This.

To put it simply, God is love. All encompassing, all enveloping, pure love. No strings attached, no catches or judgments, just total complete unconditional love. This is what man is not being told, we have been lied to.
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We are being lied to right now... By you.

God is not ONLY love. We are made in the IMAGE of God. God is capable of anger, wrath, and justice.

Can you imagine... How silly... A God that just keeps smiling and grinning, in pure love and adoration, as the worlds inhabitant kill each other, and commit crimes against each other? What a truly SILLY concept of God. That He will always continue to love people who act despicably, and allow them into His forever kingdom, to make life absolutely MISERABLE for those who play by the rules, and spread love, peace, and joy.
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If God is not ONLY love, than you know what that makes Him? No better than we, and if God is no better than we are, if in fact we know better at times then He.....He's not a perfect being at all.

That's not God.
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B-A-L-O-N-E-Y... with a CAPITAL B.

You have just DEMONstrated that you are completely and totally clueless.

Gods wrath is RIGHTEOUS. God's motives are PERFECT.

YOURS are not. MINE are not.

That is why God was gracious to give us a way to still be brought back into good standing with Him, and that is by offering us a substitute sacrifice for OUR sins. But it had to be a PERFECT sacrifice, and we had to be willing to ACCEPT it.

There IS no remission of sin, without the shedding of blood. I accept the blood that was shed in my imperfect behalf. You do NOT accept it, and you will stand on your own record.

There IS a judgment, and only the demonic realm wants to convince people that they will not face it. That way, those people will not feel it necessary to rethink their behavior, or feel motivated to accept Gods gift.

Right now, you are standing naked, and don't even know it. I sure hope that you reconsider, before you go to your resting place, waiting for one of TWO resurrections. Blessed are those who take part in the FIRST resurrection. I wouldn't want to wake up to the second resurrection though.
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Whats funny OP is you thought this thread would go nowhere, now look at it.
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lol

I know, I didn't expect a single response.

I hope I didn't miss anything directed to me personally.

I hate to see all the arguing, but sometimes that is the only way to communicate in these areas I suppose..

Ultimately, everyone is going to feel the way they are going to feel. Some will read something that changes their views on things, and some wont.

I guess it's good to put it all out there.
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Wrong, God has nothing to do with it, and it disgraces His name to put evil on Him. This is all man.
 Quoting: ajk


I don't know.. I read the bible when I was younger. (See this is one of those things he'll have stern words for me about) He seems like a jealous vindictive god..

I imagined a whiny brat with a big doll house...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475553


God isn't angry at His believers. But it is the last days for those that are against Him.
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The only time I turn to him is when others need prayers in desperation. It is hard to not be angry at a god when you see so much suffering in His world.

This is why I see a whiny brat with a big doll house.

So which is it... we have free will, or it was gods plan?

In some ways I feel HE has some answering to do.. lol
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Before judging God...
look in to the mirror and remember your place...WE are the children ...acting like brats and not listening....don't let your pride get the best of you.

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For us finites to not understand that infinite mind never began, CANNOT CHANGE, and will not end opens the mind to assume God is a big human. There is no emotion with the Source. There is no revenge. There is no pleasing. Sorry to inform all that God is beyond finite attributes. Religions ASSIGN finite attributes to Infinite as the crucial connection to their foundation of justification for the rules and regulations contained within that religion. Control over people is accomplished.
 Quoting: tkwasny


This.

To put it simply, God is love. All encompassing, all enveloping, pure love. No strings attached, no catches or judgments, just total complete unconditional love. This is what man is not being told, we have been lied to.
 Quoting: ajk




We are being lied to right now... By you.

God is not ONLY love. We are made in the IMAGE of God. God is capable of anger, wrath, and justice.

Can you imagine... How silly... A God that just keeps smiling and grinning, in pure love and adoration, as the worlds inhabitant kill each other, and commit crimes against each other? What a truly SILLY concept of God. That He will always continue to love people who act despicably, and allow them into His forever kingdom, to make life absolutely MISERABLE for those who play by the rules, and spread love, peace, and joy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298299


Why doesn't God just tell every human in a thunderous voice that he exists, and not to sin anymore? I think people would listen then. Or is it not within his power? Or does he just choose not to? Does he not comprehend the human mind and time scale and realize some stuff in a few thousand year old book might not be enough proof for some of us? Why does he even really give 2 shits how we act anyways considering he has the whole universe to deal with? If you apply all the characteristics of God to a human being you get a ego-manical tyrant.
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God HAS spoken to people in a thunderous voice before, in the wilderness at Sinai. And the people DID listen to Him. But the effect didn't last, just like the effect of seeing one miracle after another. The people STILL returned to their wickedness, like a pig to it's wallow.

And right now, you are seeing a world very similar to that just before the flood, in Noah's day. The people were warned over and over again, and yet refused to believe the message. Well, this time, God is going to END the world as we know it, and He is giving us one sign after another.

Jesus said, "Behold, I have told you before time, so that when it comes to pass, you will believe."

Those who STILL don't believe, will go the way of those who treated Noah in the same way that you treat those who desperately try to warn you now.
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Imagine if the creatures that you created turned their back on you, and sided with your enemy, even though you gave them everything a person could want, and loved them with all your heart. Imagine if you only required ONE test of loyalty, and they chose to throw away EVERYTHING, and side with the enemy who wants to overthrow you, and hijack the universe.

Imagine giving those creatures one chance after another to return to you, and they instead have the attitude of "screw you", even after you offer them YOURSELF, to take on the penalty that your perfect justice demands. Especially considering the fact that it would be unfair to all the other creatures in your creation (who have stayed loyal to your law), if you were to allow transgression to go unpaid for.

And then, to see the people that you offer such amazing grace to, once again, side with your enemy. The enemy who wanted to steal your rightful position as God, and who viciously tortured your Son, and put Him to death in such a horrible way.

The universe is marveling at the patience and love of God. But YOU, are flipping Him off, and calling Him a "whiny brat" and "vindictive". You are so blinded by the enemy that I see very little hope for you in time. You are a pitiful wretch of a human being. So am I, but at least i recognize it, and know that I have done wrong. I want to be changed, and live in a world that is without all the things that make this one such a hell. Namely... Sin.

You? You are arrogant, and have absolutely no spiritual discernment at all.
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So are you saying a parent has the right to destroy a rebellious child?
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Are you saying that the judicial system here on earth should have to put up with someone who refuses to obey the law? To put up with that person FOREVER, even though they have been given one chance after another, but still continue to violate the law with IMPUNITY? Someone who is a bad influence on others, and breeds corruption?

I say... YES. That person should be eliminated from society. However, if they admit what they've done is wrong, and cease doing wrong, and make the best effort they can to live in harmony with others, then they should be forgiven. Even if they are not absolutely perfect, but perfectly sincere.
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And what is the crime of a young Hindu, Muslim, Atheist, or other non-christian child who dies beside being unfortunate enough to be raised in a non-Christian family, hence damning them to hell for eternity?
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Children who have not reached the age of accountability, or who have never even HEARD the gospel message, or been given a chance to accept, are NOT held accountable for their ignorance. The bible makes this clear, in several places.
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Children who have not reached the age of accountability, or who have never even HEARD the gospel message, or been given a chance to accept, are NOT held accountable for their ignorance. The bible makes this clear, in several places.
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Where? Nowhere.
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Whats funny OP is you thought this thread would go nowhere, now look at it.
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lol

I know, I didn't expect a single response.

I hope I didn't miss anything directed to me personally.

I hate to see all the arguing, but sometimes that is the only way to communicate in these areas I suppose..

Ultimately, everyone is going to feel the way they are going to feel. Some will read something that changes their views on things, and some wont.

I guess it's good to put it all out there.
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Thats the perfect attitude to have here on GLP,it's all about information,good bad ugly its what you do with it is what matters,your a smart guy,keep the people thinking.thumbs
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Typical Christer.

Filled with hatred. Calling people names. sarcasm.

It's all about jerking off their ego.

They have no love in their heart for anyone. Zero. This guy supposedly believes his opponent will burn eternally if he cannot be reached with the love of Jesus.

Hey! I know! I'll mock and belittle him! IDIOT!!!!


You take right after your bullshit God.
He's a hate-filled hypocrite too!
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How do you KNOW that this person was even a "Christer".

Are you even AWARE, just how many SATANISTS use ths tactic to destroy opinions about true Christians?

I happen to KNOW this for a fact, because I have MET former Satanists before that have described the things they used to do to create hatred towards Christians.

A real Christian who DOES follow after Christ, would NOT say something like the poster that you responded to. Please think about that, because it's a fact.
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Whats funny OP is you thought this thread would go nowhere, now look at it.
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lol

I know, I didn't expect a single response.

I hope I didn't miss anything directed to me personally.

I hate to see all the arguing, but sometimes that is the only way to communicate in these areas I suppose..

Ultimately, everyone is going to feel the way they are going to feel. Some will read something that changes their views on things, and some wont.

I guess it's good to put it all out there.
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Thats the perfect attitude to have here on GLP,it's all about information,good bad ugly its what you do with it is what matters,your a smart guy,keep the people thinking.thumbs
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:) Girl here.. But thank you haha
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'And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.'
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1. No star (or star-like object) fell from heaven.
2. WTF does wormwood even mean?
3. A 3rd part of the Earth hasn't been affected by the nuclear fallout.
4. You're a retard who needs to stop posting religious prophesies that will never come true.
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The only time I turn to him is when others need prayers in desperation. It is hard to not be angry at a god when you see so much suffering in His world.

This is why I see a whiny brat with a big doll house.

So which is it... we have free will, or it was gods plan?

In some ways I feel HE has some answering to do.. lol
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For us finites to not understand that infinite mind never began, CANNOT CHANGE, and will not end opens the mind to assume God is a big human. There is no emotion with the Source. There is no revenge. There is no pleasing. Sorry to inform all that God is beyond finite attributes. Religions ASSIGN finite attributes to Infinite as the crucial connection to their foundation of justification for the rules and regulations contained within that religion. Control over people is accomplished.
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clappa
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Children who have not reached the age of accountability, or who have never even HEARD the gospel message, or been given a chance to accept, are NOT held accountable for their ignorance. The bible makes this clear, in several places.
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Where? Nowhere.
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"And the times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commands all men every where to repent:" Acts 17:30

"This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you from now on walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart." Ephesians 14:17-18

"Why gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance." 1st Peter 1:13-14


I only had a minute, but do your ow research. It's real simple. Go to "biblos.com", and do a few searches.
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I was reading today about pripyat and chernobyl. I was amazed to find that chernobyl is named after the ukranian word for mugwort or wormwood. Now for the folks that say prophecy hasn't come true then you are sadly mistaked and you probably don't have a good understanding of prophetic language or symbolism. I don't know what the chernobyl wormwood deal means but it is what it is and things are not getting any better. Understand folks as a God fearing christian I am not at all confused about what is happening and not fearful of what is next, and for us believers we have the ultimate comfortor. Now for non-believers that just really sounds silly and it actually annoys the heck out of you, I know the feeling cause I was a non-believer. Researching various topics for 5 years now led me to Jesus Christ. I'm fully aware of the new world order the illuminati masonic conspiracies and all of that good stuff. The problem is we are not up against some evil men with a chip on their shoulder. This is a satanic conspiracy, and the great controversy is soon to come to a close.
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"And the times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commands all men every where to repent:" Acts 17:30

"This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you from now on walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart." Ephesians 14:17-18

"Why gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance." 1st Peter 1:13-14


I only had a minute, but do your ow research. It's real simple. Go to "biblos.com", and do a few searches.
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Wow. If you stretched any further to try to make those say what you want them to, rather than what they say (and stopped taking them out of context), you would snap in two like a pretzel.

Not one of those have anything at all to do with the age of accountability or children going to heaven. Not even a little bit. And taken in context, they get even further from saying anything of the sort.

If I did this shit, every christian on this forum would descend on me like vultures to shriek and scream about the context issue and how utterly, patently obvious it is that this is NOTHING AT ALL to do with the discussion.

It's not okay for you to rewrite what is actually there to fit your agenda, anymore than it is for me to do so.

Shame on you for not even trying.
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